Are you Iranian enough?

Fred
by Fred
28-Jul-2010
 

In a recent blog of mine one of the posters with whom I’ve been exchanging jabs for sometimes has left a comment which has occupied my mind with a question.

First here is the comment:

“by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on Tue Jul 27, 2010 06:23 PM PDT

Fred like his masters in israel playing the victim card. once again you show your true colors Fred. You dont care about Iranians. In fact, I dont think you have Iranian blood in you at all. “

It so happens in the same blog another poster, LoverOfLiberty, in response to a nosy poster’s question in part had said:

“No, I am not an Iranian.  I am a US citizen with family roots dating back to the American Revolution, and with an English and Polish ancestry.   

With this being said, however, I've followed the history of Iran since I was very young.  And, I've had several Iranian-American friends through the years who have told me about their family histories in Iran. “

My question, does having “Iranian blood “is a perquisite for caring for Iran and Iranians?

If it does, then all those Islamist Rapists and their supporters like  mien Führer who is overtly concerned with bloodlines have a lot of explaining to do.

BTW, science of DNA has a lot to say about this pure blood thing.

http://iranian.com/main/blog/fred/little-warmongers

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Bavafa

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You can

by IranMilitaryForum.net on

The biggest rapist/murderous regime is IRI

 

You can repeat the above as many times as you wish, but the facts do not change by you being dillusional! There is no rapists like the US armed forces as factually proven by the UN and even the US itself. 

Now, what are yo talking about?

;-)


Marjaneh

MM ;)

by Marjaneh on

I don't know about avatars and people typing to themselves! lol

All I know is that sometimes Fredsy's blogs and posts scare me, and I think I'm on ignore, because I've repeatedly asked for precise explanations and/or verifications in order not to make false accusations/assumptions and never got any reply, as e.g. in the bits I've quoted, it isn't really clear, although it sort of is.

So, I'm a bit lost.

 

I'm with you on the genocide....Insane! And not that different from the current murdering crazies.

 

"...society celebrates its live conformists and its dead troublemakers..." - Mignon McLaughlin



MM

IMF - the biggest rapist/murderous regime is IRI

by MM on

The biggest rapist/murderous regime is IRI who does those despicable acts to her own people.

corruption, rape and terror run deep in the divine cesspool


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Time to look yourself in the mirror

by IranMilitaryForum.net on

If it does, then all those Islamist Rapists and their supporters
like  mien Führer who is overtly concerned with bloodlines have a lot of
explaining to do.

 

It is an stablished fact that the US is te biggest rapist nation. I know, being mindfully "blind" as you are, it is still leaves no excuse for you to omit the facts when "convinient". May I remind you of the International fiasco rape cases in Iraq and Afghanestan? Have you ever bothered to protest this in any way and shape such as calling the US government an International rapist as you others with far less crimes in this regard?

You have naively or in clumsy ways confirm your own personal traits here time after time. We have got the message loud and clear that you are a biggoted fascist targetig Muslims in particular.

;-)


MM

thanks Marjaneh for proving my point

by MM on

Fred has never jumped on any of his buddies / alter-avatars on IC for waging holocaust on Iran (I call 5 million Iranian killed, called for in a different blog, a holocaust, even if Islamists).  And, you just found one of the passages where Fred colludes with his buddies on the means of affecting this holocaust.  Re-quoting you:

http://iranian.com/main/blog/fred-129

 

""

Freddie, hence why I

by mahmoudg on

keep harping on the fact that surgical attacks is/are the only salvation to rid Iran and the world of these Nazi style fascists.  We keep them in power any longer and the Islamic Rapist Republic and its suppoerts (about 200K or so terrorists which need to be wiped) would put Hitler and his clan to shame."

 

"mahmoudg

by Fred on

I hear you and believe what you advocate is not out of any malice rather in every sense of the word your thoroughly thought-out opinion for emancipation of Iran and Iranians from the Islamist Rapists.

If I did not think airtight sanctions would break the back of them Islamist Rapists allowing for the brave Iranians to put their house in order by their own capable hands, I would not shy away from what you are advocating.

After all there are times when thereare no other options, French would have been speaking German by now if the allies had not intervened  militarily.   

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Marjaneh

hamsade ghadimi and MM, please explain to me what this means

by Marjaneh on

(my bold highlights)

http://iranian.com/main/blog/fred-129

 

""

Freddie, hence why I

by mahmoudg on

keep harping on the fact that
surgical attacks is/are the only salvation to rid Iran and the world of
these Nazi style fascists. 
We keep them in power any longer and the
Islamic Rapist Republic and its suppoerts (about 200K or so terrorists
which need to be wiped
) would put Hitler and his clan to shame."

 

"mahmoudg

by Fred on

I hear you and believe what you advocate is not out of any malice
rather in every sense of the word your thoroughly thought-out opinion

for emancipation of Iran and Iranians from the Islamist Rapists.

If I did not think airtight sanctions would break
the back of them Islamist Rapists allowing for the brave Iranians to
put their house in order by their own capable hands, I would not shy
away from what you are advocating.

After all there are times when there
are no other options, French would have been speaking German by now if
the allies had not intervened  militarily.   

.... ""

 

"...society celebrates its live conformists and its dead troublemakers..." - Mignon McLaughlin



hamsade ghadimi

mm (2)

by hamsade ghadimi on

i'm not planning to "join" anyone if that puts you at ease.  i just checked out what you presented.  his comment did not seem to be directed at you from the link that you provided but it's obvious there's some bad blood between you two.  it also seems that you haven't paid attention to my writing (including in this blog) that i'm not pro-war; therefore, i don't understand your insinuation that if i'm not on "your side," then i'm on the pro-war side (according to you "fred's buddies").  there's a logical fallacy at work here.

there are some elements on this site that would like us to believe that iranians and palestinians are in a three-legged race to freedom.  i'm not one of them and don't mind anyone exposing or deriding them.  it's that simple.  i don't know how i can make this more clear.


MM

hamsade ghadimi

by MM on

Fred's objections were directed at me after my comments in this blog and others.  So, join him, if you like and follow his blogs and his bodies' comments.  It is a free electronic community.  So be it.

PS, have seen Fred object to any comments by his war-monger bodies, while he is quick to throw zereshk juice / crop-dusting Islamist labels at anyone else who objects to killing civilian?


hamsade ghadimi

mm

by hamsade ghadimi on

i'm unconvinced by what you presented.  if these were the most inflamatory comments that you could find on fred, then i don't think you have a strong case.  your claims: 1) fred may be using alter egos to promote war against iran (speculation), 2) fred has pro-war buddies (speculation; even if true: then most people are guilty by association to the lowest common denominator in their network), 3) the insult he made to someone who has a crop duster avatar and whose 95% of his contributions have been for the palestinian cause (kudos to him).

on the other hand, mm, you are quick to debunk any criticism of niac including direct communication (published emails) niac has had with the foreign ministry of iri in washington to coordinate cooperation between iri and the u.s.  it seems that you have different burdens of proof for different claims.  have a good day.


MM

hamsade ghadimi

by MM on

While Fred may not be directly advocating war against Iran by foreign forces, he has bodies on-line (or maybe his alter-ego/avatar) who will attack anyone who says anything less.  In addition, anyone who objects to these barbaric attacks of his bodies/avatars against Iran such as dropping >2300 MOPs (1500 lb bunker-busting) bomb or advocate killing 5 million Iranians to get rid of IRI, below are samples of what Fred will throw at you in one blog.  Then, after reading the thread, you tell us what he is made of. 

Just remember that some of the comments by his buddies/avatars were so extreme that JJ erased them because of content.  Now, watch him throw his zereshk juice mixed with crop-dusting Islamist label at me again in this thread.

 http://iranian.com/main/2010/jul/green-light

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Islamist Palestinian crop-dusters

by Fred on

Once again, the lying Islamist Palestinian crop-dusters should drink their Zeresh juice and then and only then bite me!

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Islamist Palestinian crop-dusters

by Fred on

Again, the lying Islamist Palestinian crop-dusters should drink their Zeresh juice and then and only then bite me!

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Islamist Palestinian crop-dusters

by Fred on

It is impossible to match the gutter language the lying Islamist Palestinian crop-dusters are most at home with.

So to be as close as possible, they should drink their Zereshk juice and then bite me!


Fred

hamsade ghadimi

by Fred on

Thank you for the correction, gratefully accepted.

As to:

“i also noticed that many of your blogs are in farsi and well-written.  what's up with that?  the blogs do not seem to be written by a non-native. “

Am I to be responsible for neighbors’ assumption(s)? Pun intended.

Thanks again & take care.


hamsade ghadimi

fred

by hamsade ghadimi on

although you're a prolific writer on this site, i rarely read your material.  reason?  too long to explain. :) i thought that i read a blog of yours that you were criticizing anti-war supporters.  after re-reading it, i believe that you were exposing "pro-regime anti-war supporters" and their dishonest posturing.  and there have  been many comments about you that claimed you're pro-war.  therefore, i was influenced to believe you're supporting military action toward iran.  i sampled few of your blogs and based on that i cannot cite an instance that you made a pro-war remark.  i stand corrected and apologize for accusing you for being pro-war. 

i also noticed that many of your blogs are in farsi and well-written.  what's up with that?  the blogs do not seem to be written by a non-native.


Farah Rusta

Hamsad jaan zaboonam laal

by Farah Rusta on

 

agar man beh shoma jesaarat konam :)

FR


Fred

Erroneous suppositions

by Fred on

You are making number of erroneous supposition including this important one:

i don’t hold your view of waging war to get rid of this cancerous regime.”

Care to cite your source?

If you can’t, any honest individual would retract a false allegation once he/she is called on it.


hamsade ghadimi

fred i think that it’s

by hamsade ghadimi on

fred

i think that it’s unusual for a non-iranian to be obsessed on the subject of iran and iranians on a daily basis.  it seems to be a full-time job for you (as it is for some others on this site!).  at any rate, it is much appreciated if you have good intentions.  one does not need “Iranian blood” to care about iranians.  the only necessary ingredients are human blood and a conscious. 

however, i don’t hold your view of waging war to get rid of this cancerous regime.  one need not to look at afghanistan to see how a superpower and its allies are at a stalemate with a bunch of cave dwellers.  the eight year war waged by Iraq and its supporting cast against an iri regime in its infancy would be a better example.  i think that iri is in a better position to defend itself than it was in 1980.  military attack in iran would only cause devastation to ordinary iranians and plays into the hands of this vile regime.

farah,

as usual, i enjoyed your bantering.  i know i’ll get my turn at some point!  astute observation, you made.  i think many people are suffering from mpd on this site.   what an obscene state of mind one must be in to think that the mullahs are iran-lovers and their opposition anti-iranian!


Farah Rusta

That's better Sargord joon

by Farah Rusta on

sock puppet ... yeah, that's what I expected - a well-rounded description.

Thanks sweetie, keep entertaining us, we need you and I for one appreciate you. Any news of your alter ego?

 

FR


Sargord Pirouz

Farah, you're simply

by Sargord Pirouz on

Farah, you're simply engaging a sock puppet here on the IC. 

Here on this "bump and shove" of a forum, that's the most you can expect from me. 

But I do try and provide a certain level of expertise, here and there, when and where appropriate. Even if it's not widely appreciated. 


Farah Rusta

I didn't ask for your papers Sargord joon!

by Farah Rusta on

Darling

I simply asked you how YOU describe yourself (in the same way you described Fred). You take this Sargord joke too seriously sometimes. BTW, how is your alter ego, sweet?

 

FR


Fred

Mien Führer

by Fred on

Mien Führer with concern about the “Iranian blood” in me now says:

“Listen up Fred, Iran and Iranians are crying out for freedom, from you AND the regime both. You are one and the same tot them. You both bring them misery.”

And being mien Führer it would be useless to ask when Iranian people told him about this.

You are too green, do not skip class.  


Iraniandudee3

What's wrong with Fred?

by Iraniandudee3 on

I don't get why some people here are ganging up on this guy?


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

Fred and the regime, one and the same

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

Listen up Fred, Iran and Iranians are crying out for freedom, from you AND the regime both. You are one and the same tot them. You both bring them misery.


MM

LoverOfLiberty

by MM on

You and I I are not too far apart.  It is just that, as someone said in another blog, I would rather see these 5 million Iranians wake up in a democratic secular Iran, having their liberties gauranteed rather than seeing them fall victims to >2300 MOP bunker-busting bombs.  As another person said, I would rather see them as our compartriats in the next free Iran rather than martyrs in another round.

We see these Islamists wake up to more restrictions and their positions come closer to ours than ever.  Do you want to kill them or ask them to join you in the next free Iran? 


Sargord Pirouz

Well Farah, recently I've

by Sargord Pirouz on

Well Farah, recently I've updated my National ID and voted in the 2009 election. What could be more official?

Can the same be said for you (or Fred)? 

 


Fatollah

fine!

by Fatollah on

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Fred

Populist demagogues

by Fred on

The usual transparently Islamists and their likeminded cyber-centurions from the status quo loving NIAC-CASMII lobby are at it again.

Listen up, Iran and Iranians are crying out for freedom, your populist demagoguery has run its course.  


LoverOfLiberty

MM,

by LoverOfLiberty on

Although your desire for bloodless change in Iran might be ideal, and I agree that such a scenario is ideal, very few revolutions of the sort that you (and others) seek have ever been successful.

So, with this observation in mind, are you willing to spend the next 30+ years with the status quo...or even much worse conditions for even longer...just so you can pat yourself on your back in self-congratulations with the notion that "Well, at least no blood was spilled?"

If you ask me, I'd much rather prefer to die on my feet than live on my knees.

And, as Patrick Henry once said during the American Revolution, when support for the American Revolution was faltering, "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"


Farah Rusta

And how about Sargord P

by Farah Rusta on

How do you describe yourself Sargord joon? Just wondered!

 

FR


Sargord Pirouz

Huh. A whole blog post on

by Sargord Pirouz on

Huh. A whole blog post on the matter, and Fred doesn't even mention whether or not he is in fact Iranian.

Whatever the case, we can all agree that Fred is a manic obsessive anti-Iran cheerleader. 

He really should seek help for his condition. 


Fatollah

Fred jaan

by Fatollah on

there is no such thing, the answer is No.

Now, why would you bring that up, Fred? 

p/s in fact my nose is sekkai [coin], nosy, I think not!