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Fred
by Fred
01-Jan-2012
 

به مناسبت فوت "رهبر فرزانه"؛ کمیته مرکزی سازمان فدائیان خلق (اکثریت) با سوابق مشعشع در ایران پیامی صادر کرده، خلاصۀ آن:

" کیم چونگ ایل، رهبر فرزانه کره شمالی و یکی از فرماندهان برجسته جبهه نیروهای مقاومت جهانی علیه ارتجاع امپریالیستی - استعماری، در حین سفر به یکی از مراکز صنعتی - کشاورزی کشور در سن ۶۹ سالگی زندگی را وداع گفت.

بزرگترین میراث او کشوری آزاد، مستقل، آباد و روحیه مبارزه و مقاومت است که یقینا جانشینانش* راه وی را ادامه خواهند داد.

یاد و نامش گرامی باد!"

سئوال:

چرا نه تنها کمیته مرکزی سازمان، بل، کادر آن در "کشور آزاد، مستقل و آباد" کرۀ شمالی اقامت ندارند و در بلاد "امپریالیستی- استعماری" اطراق کرد­ه­اند؟

آیا آقای فرخ نگهدار تا پیش از اخراج اخیر از سازمان در پیانگ ینگ زندگی میکرد یا مانند دیگر رفقا لندن بیشتر با مذاقشان جور است؟

آیا این تجلیل از رهبر موروثی خونخوار کرۀ شمالی ؛ فاتحۀ خود سازمان نیز نمیباشد؟

تبریک

* جانشین رهبر فرزانه؛ شا پسر بیست و خورده­ای سالش است که سلطنت کمونیستی موروثی را به ارث برد.


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1) Mitt Romney will be elected as 45th president of US of A!

2) South Korean president Lee Myung-Bak will tell the king of Nouth Korea Kim Jong-UN hey topol tear that wall down!

3) Syria will collapse!

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Shazde Asdola Mirza

انّا لل مارکس و انا علیه راجعون

Shazde Asdola Mirza


 

واقعه مصیبت بار درگذشت حضرت امام کیم ایل جون، فرزند آیت الله کیم ایل سانگ، را به عموم امّت مارکسیست لنینیست ۱۲ امامی، تبریک و تسلیت عرض می‌کنم.

قآل لنین فی‌ کتابه: "انا بشر مثلکم، و لا ماتعلمون ... عمله‌های جهان متحد شوید ... مرگ بر ضد ولایت مطلقه فقیه کمونیست!"

تبریک و درود به امام سوم خر کمونیست‌های کره ... رهبرنا و امامنا و سیدنا ... کیم ایل یون.

صل علی محمد ... یار لنین خوش آمد!


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Faramarz, its much worse than his picture. It was his Famin,

by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on

The great North Korean famin was due to the mismanagement of the ruling "workers" party, The ruling class in North Korea, the collective bureaucracy, could feed itself, but not the working class!

They basically were able to develop the bomb at the cost of starving the entire nation to death, well, brinks of death. There's ample painful documentation of that. South Korean marxists have a very good take on their cousins in the North.

If it wasn't for the purposes of a "buffer state" for China, North Korea would have been history by now.

Solely based on economic power and means, South Korea is able to economically absorb North in matter of a few years.


Arj

Re comments

by Arj on

Dear GR, if you notice, you'd see I said; "...and are actively a part of the political process in almost every democratic country (well, except the U.S.)!" That means in other democratic countries such as for instance France, Italy, India, Brazil.., socialist and communist parties participate in elections and hold parliament seats, whereas in U.S. the term "commie" is a derogatory term and is often used to discredit a politician (as in Obama's case!). It has rather more to do with the prevalent mentality of a society than actual politics! 

Dear OY, again, you've lumped up everyone as a monolithic entity and consequently lept on your own conclusions -- with regards to McDonalds! I have already alluded to the roots of such misconceptions in my previous comment below!

P.S. Indeed, as MG put it, the whole international community, and specially working and middle classes in the West, owe a lot to all leftist entities (Communists, Socialists, Social Democrats) and their affiliated unions for major improvements in the social conracts between peoples and their respective governments! It's a matter of fact that concepts such as 40 hr work weeks, seek days, maternity leave... did not exist before manifestation of political left in social activities -- e.g. the norm of 12 hr daily shifts may sound absurd now, but it was a reality up until a century ago!


Roozbeh_Gilani

Faranmarz: your pic is the proof that N. Koreans are "Green"

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

And very careful about reducing their carbon footprint, unlike the environmentaly unaware capitalist pigs next door!

But on a more serious note, I believe that someone at Ministry of etelaat, managed to finaly identify & kidnap Fred. Then tortured him for his password to iranian.com account and has been blooging on his behalf for the past couple of weeks. So dont be surprised if Fred's next blog is in praise of Hassan nassrullah....  

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


Faramarz

Ari

by Faramarz on

So you are telling me that the N. Koreans spend all that time in the dark at nights and their population is still half of that of South Koreans!

Somebody should really investigate this and come up with a scientific explanation!

It must be those pictures of the "Dear Leader" in the bedrooms that kill the mood, if you ask my unscientific opinion!


maziar 58

faramarz

by maziar 58 on

maybe south korean enjoying FREE electricity promissed to them by khomeini!!

happy new year

Maziar


Faramarz

Oon Yaroo Jaan

by Faramarz on

The other thing that I recently learned about N. Korea is that not only there are pictures of “The Leader” in every home and every living room, but as people leave the room, they have to walk backwards such that they never show their behinds to the Man! Seriously!

We used to do that as kids at Emam Reza shrine in Mashad or Masoumeh Shrine in Ghom which was kind of fun, (walking backwards that is!)

But every day and in your own living room?


Ari Siletz

Faramarz

by Ari Siletz on


The night time satellite image of North and South Korea that you offer
is "unrepresentative", though your point can still be made with an
unbiased image. North Korean capital, Pyong Yang, is pretty well lit at nights.
Also adjust for the fact that North Korea has half the population of
South Korea, and you get data that can be used in legit analysis. 

Or somewhat more meaningful:

Yearly
(2005) energy consumption per capita of South Korea divided by the
yearly energy consumption per capita of North Korea is about 5.

Source.

And, happy New Year, everyone.


Oon Yaroo

Faramarz Jaan, you survived the new year's eve champagne!

by Oon Yaroo on

Most of the night lights emanating from North Korea come from kerosene oil lamps!

http://www.supplierlist.com/photo_images/16841/Ker...

No wonder none of our communist friends live there or have sought residency of!

I wonder if North Korea has any permanent residency program (i.e., Green Card)!?


Faramarz

North Korea at Night

by Faramarz on

This satellite picture of the Korean Peninsula tells the whole story of Communist North Korea. While the South Koreans have been able to elevate themselves to the ranks of advanced industrial nations, their northern brothers and sisters are left hungry and living in the dark.

 

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/dprk/image...

Very romantic though under the candle lights!


Ari Siletz

Mash Ghasem, fair points!

by Ari Siletz on



"-8 hours a day standard



-Unemployment insurance



-strong unions (there are still a few of them around) 



and many other social justice acheivements.



All of you owe a lot more to the Left, than you could imagine."

 

The Soviet Union's failure has been a bigger disaster for the average Joe in capitalist countries. Seems folks in the Communist Block suffered tyranny so we inhabitants of the West could bargain concessions out of our robber barons. What a deal! Hurry up building the next communist super power before our very DNA becomes "legal" corporate property . But do it in some other country, please :)


Oon Yaroo

Dear Great Arj, It's one thing eating at McDonald's and also

by Oon Yaroo on

advocating it to others!

But, it's totally a different thing advocating McDonald's to others but eating at the Cheesecake Factory yourself!

I believe dear Sharab Sorkh was questioning that paradoxical phenomenon that our communist friends like to practice or better yet preach!

Happy new year, great Arj Bozorg! 


G. Rahmanian

Dear Arj:

by G. Rahmanian on

There's a communist party in the US called: Communist Party USA (CPUSA) which was established in 1919.


Arj

Misconceptions and common cliches on Iranian political left

by Arj on

Most people due to lack of information or proper education (and few due to certain political agendas!) do not differentiate between the various institutions of political left (socialists, communists, social democrats...) in Iran, hence lump them all up as "communists!" Not to mention that even communists are of various inclinations with regards to democratic concepts or even the issue of governance!

Subsequently, cliches such as ones mentioned above (and below!) with regards to "communists' choice of residence" assume that all communists should be supporters of every Stalinist, Maoists or even Marxist -Leninist entity in the world and/or ones who claim to be so! Indeed, there are many communists, such as anarchists (not to be confused with hooligans, but the leftist equivalent of libertarians!) who do not even believe in a central government, let alone ones being passed on as hereditary tradition! Moreover, there are those who believe in Socialism without considering, let alone supporting, systems like those of N. Korea or the former Soviet Union plausible! 

Nonetheless, such jaded cliches that stem from utter ignorance of their perpetuators, based on their fallacious premises, tend to pigeonhole all communists or socialists into either renouncing their convictions, or being forced to move to countries whose political systems are not supported by an overwhelming majority of them or even considered legitimate! Not to mention that Communist and socialist parties are legally entitled to participate and are actively a part of the political process in almost every democratic country (well, except the U.S.)!


G. Rahmanian

Class Struggles!

by G. Rahmanian on

Of course, "class struggles" existed long before Marx started writing. The first sentence of the first chapter of his pamphlet, The Manifesto of the Communist party bears witness to that. "The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggle." Marx saw the whole history of mankind as evolutionary processes. He calls what the bourgeoisie did as revolutionary and sees it as a class that eventually gives birth to socialist societies. It is the stage where the working class takes over and the wealth sharing by all that the citizens of the free world disagree with. "From everybody according to his ability to everybody according to his needs," is where the disagreements begin. Of course, the concept of communism has become synonymous with dictatorial rule and the lack of basic democratic freedoms. Also the biggest issue with certain organizations is the cultist mentality that prevails among their memberships. Blindly following the leadership is the hallmark of the policies of such organizations.


Mash Ghasem

The Making of the English Working Class

by Mash Ghasem on

It's lot bigger than Marx and Lenin. We're talking about the working class in the first industrialized nation in the world. No one has any monopoly on social reforms. But overwhelming majority of such laws were put into effect due to the force of the working class. See below:

The Making of the English Working Class

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Making_of_the_English_Working_Class


Mash Ghasem

The Ultimate Irony of History

by Mash Ghasem on

Angali jaan, are we denying the fact that Hitler was propped up to defeat the workers' movement (first in Germnany, and then the world)?

Ultimate irony of history was that the German Communist Party (under the influence of one and only Stalin)  went against Social-Democrats, and instead of uniting with them against Hitler; thus spliting the vote and paving the electoral path to power fof Hitler.

That's not (the young) Darwin? 


anglophile

The Social reform was in place well before the Socialists

by anglophile on

And they happened in a monarchical system namely the Great Britain (since 1601)! http://www2.rgu.ac.uk/publicpolicy/introduction/historyf.htm#outrelief So Mash Ghasem's self made theory of social refroms in the West owing their existence to the socialist movements is incorrect when it comes to Britain. As a matter of fact Briatin saw no threat from the like of Karl Marx and Lenin who spent their times in Braitain (Marx dieed here) at its social policies were well ahread of other European and western countries. 

anglophile

Mash Ghasem jan this is not about battle Mamasani rafigh :)

by anglophile on

Please stop making up history just to appease the uninformed public. Anglo-Soveit invasion of Iran(Sept 1941)  to secure the Persian corridor happened a year  before even the first shots of the battle of Stalingrad were fired (Aug 1942) and the supplies kept coming until well after the Nazis were driven out of the mother Russia!  Americans joined them in 1942.  You must be mixing it up with the Kazeroon conflict - LOL. My new avatar is that of that young man who suggested that you and I are related to this fellow    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Schimpanse_zoo-leipig.jpg      - guess who?. Well I don't know about myself but I am sure you are LOL and yes a happy new year to both of you (your brother Terreh I mean). 

Mash Ghasem

Angali, You're actually incorrect on the motives of the West

by Mash Ghasem on

The "West"  actually did everything in its power to push the Nazi army towards the USSR in  hopes of a total annihilation of the (degenerated) Workers' State. And it almost came to that point of annihilation for Soviet Union (the Battle of Stalingrade). Only after the victory of Russains in that battle and the consequent retreat of Germans (when the western powers knew beyond doubt, and for sure that USSR was not going anywhere) did they pour aid into Russia. Chech your dates, you'll see what I mean.

And a Happy New Year to you.

P.S. Whos' the chap for your avatar?


Mash Ghasem

Actually Stalin jailed and killed the most gifted generals of

by Mash Ghasem on

The Red Army (because he feared them) hence the reason for Hitler's early advances in Russia. The most gifted of those generals was Tokhachevsky. An incredible military genuis, see for yourself:

Mikhail Tukhachevsky

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Tukhachevsky

 


anglophile

Talking of namak nashnasi Mash Ghasem jan?

by anglophile on

Your historic faux pas could be forgiven if your were not Iranian but for  an Iranian to forget that the sole reason for invasion of his country in 1941 by the Anglo-American forces was to save the comminust Russia from falling into the Nazi hands says something about your selective history. Not to mention of the shameful Molotov-Ribbehntrop Pact that allied the world saviour of the masses with the world slaughterer of the masses. painful isn't it? 

Mash Ghasem

Happy new year to you too OY,

by Mash Ghasem on

Mashti had to reappear again cause I'm having difficulty singing in with the other ID!

Agha jan, with all due respect for individual inititative and hard work (Kas Nakhard Posht Man, Jz Nakhn Angosht Man), as far as social justice, social balance and social harmony is concerned, if you don't have laws and social institutions protecting the rights of all citizens for a minnimum standard of living then very few end up having a satisfying comfortable good lives.

Just compare what living used to be in the West in early 70's and now. Leftists don't have a monoply on social reform, but they have lots and lots of contributions in that field, that's all.

Enjoy your weekend, thanks to you know who.


Oon Yaroo

Like Khomeini*, Stalin promised the key of the Behesht and ....

by Oon Yaroo on

the virgins to the poor Russian souls!

And the rest is 20 million Russian shahids in WWII!

 

* Actually Khomeini learned that from Stalin!


Mash Ghasem

It never says "Single-Handedly," yet by far the most sacrificed

by Mash Ghasem on

population as far as the victory over Hitler's Army is concerned.

The moment the Red Army occupied Berlin, it turned from a liberating Army into an occupation one. We know the rest and what happened, good riddance!

While we should have no illusions about the collective bureauracracies that ruled Russian and Eastern Europe (and still rule China), at the same time there's an ocean of achievements and great social reforms that were put into effect (in the "West") only and only because of the Leftists' struggles (and the fear of the ruling classes of a social revolution, hence they giving into such social refeorm).

 


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ردواين

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ردواين

ايراد همونی بود که گفتي.  همه شدن سينه چاک ايديلوژي ويژۀ خودشون .کمونيست و سبزی و حزبی و مصدقی و سلطنتی و دمکرات و طوطی وار تکرار کس شعر و اين ميون اون چيزی که فراموش ميشه  منافع فرهنگی ملی تاريخی ايران و کيانه. من موندم هر جا فحش به ايران و سامانه تاريخی کياني و شناسنامه اين ملت ميدن اين اقايون يا قاعبند يا شريک قافله ولي خدا نکنه يکي پشت سر مصدق و لنين و رضا پهلوي و ابو مشعل و تريتا فارسی  بد بگه که خشتکشو يکي ميکنن. ايران نه پسوند داره و نه پيشوند و تنها ترازوی سنجش هر گروهی برايند ميزان دلبستگی انان به منافع ملی ايران و مانداک کيانی ان ميباشد.  بر اين پايه هر گروه و سازمانی که از اين سه اصل بنيادی پيروی نکند يا جاکش بيگانگان است و يا الاغی کبير. حالا ميخواد قاجاری باشه يا کمونيستی و يا سلطنت طلب و جمهوری و  ملي مذي افتابه چي و سبز و زرد که اگه حرفی داری بسود نام ايران باشه و اگه نيست که پس تو صف باش  و ماله کشی شومبول ادوارد سعيد .

....

چييرز


Oon Yaroo

Happy new year Mashdi! I was wondering where you were!

by Oon Yaroo on

I certainly appreciate the struggles and sacrifices and dedications and selflessness of all of our predecessors for paving the road for a better and happier life for us all.

But, I appropriate my own "individual" hard work most of all.

If each individual works hard and becomes successful then all benefits from it.

Providing opportunities for people to take advantage of and therefore reciprocate the same down the road is a good idea but welfare-ism is a bad idea!

Let's see what our friend dear Sharab Sorkh has to say!

God bless and stay thirsty for red wine!

 

 


AMIR1973

USSR won WW2 single-handedly?

by AMIR1973 on

Here's a list of countries liberated by the US and its Western allies:

France, Italy, West Germany, Austria, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Japan, South Korea, i.e the freest, most progressive, and most prosperous countries in the world

And now the countries "liberated" by the USSR:

East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Albania, Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, North Korea, i.e. single party Communist dictatorships (the biggest persecutions and killings of liberals, socialists and Communists took place in those very countries)

BTW, the USSR received huge amounts of assistance from the Western allies during WW2 (some of it routed through Iran)