سئوال از دموکرات منشان ایرانی

Fred
by Fred
08-May-2011
 

 

آیا همزیستی و کنار آمدن و بعضاً دوستی با نمایندگان نظام پر برکت که از جمله مسئول شکنجه، آزار، قطع اعضاء سالم بدن، اعدام بیشمار و تجاوز به عنف مرد و زن و کودک ایرانی هستند بایسته و زیبندۀ ایرانی دموکرات منش است و هیچ حد و مرزی وجود ندارد؟

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blind patriotism need

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blind patriotism need constant validation and reinforcement to provide a sense of stability and security.

Astute observation, which usually goes undiscussed  and unnoticed but it's a huge factor. Many support the regime only for that reason alone. As we witnessed here in the US after 9/11. Many democrats  voted for  Bush only because he was a stronger candidate in keeping them safe from external threats of terrorism, and would not stop at anything even war to keep the country secure. It was a trick used by Hitler et al. Hitler's chief propagandist said, " Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann Goering, president of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and Luftwaffe Commander in Chief, is attributed with making the statement at the Nuremburg trials.

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excellent blog and responses

by Masoud Kazemzadeh on

Excellent blog and excellent responses.  Thanks Fred, Roozbeh, Vildemose, and Paykar.


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Hamvatans.

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We are witnessing a few, seemingly intelligent and educated , individuals be indifferent to crimes committed against their own people by the STATE, which they justify/rationalize, or deny the occurance of them. Some go an step further and cheer the rapists on. Often the rationale is that there are exogenous enemies, therefore, the correct stance would be to support the STATE; after all, it's the STATE that has the responsibility of defending the nation.

Other than mental disorders(putting it mildly), my explanation would be they benefit from the status quo in various ways; it does not need to be financial benefit. Ideaoligical attachment, political affiliation, and blind patriotism need constant validation and reinforcement to provide a sense of stability and security.

In the final analysis, they are insignificant. Dictators fall. If people get their hands on bigger fish who sold them out, they will dish out the "revolutionary" justice in a frenzy. Right or wrong, we have seen this before.

 


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For most Islamists who are naturally and inherently , immoral, unethical, racists and bigotted, and they believe in their Superiority over all others (dar-al-harb vs dar-al-Islam) , the end justifies the means. Pendar Nik is exhibit number one.


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Given any reward, a “lefty” would be amoral in the truest sense of the word.

On the other hand, no matter what the reward, a leftist would keep true to his/her values which include social justice. Ergo, a "lefty" you are not.  

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Fred: on collaborators, there always had been and always be...

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people around who'd sell their soul to the criminal dictator for a few bucks or euros. The difference is that in these days of internet, they are just a keyboard away from the rest of us who still believe in values of human decency and patriotism.

You Fred, have a good way of dragging out these islamist vermins, these paid agents of the islamist regime, from behind their fake avators with your well written blogs.

A big, warm thank you my friend, from a "lefty" who believe in no compromise, whatsoever with the islamist fascists!


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