The Israel Lobby......

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18-May-2012
 

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Zed

Trying to figure out also why this can be done to children

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Zed

Fantastic Video

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Very informative


Simorgh5555

Mousa jan

by Simorgh5555 on

These people are the Idiots Martyrs Brigade.
Idiots sending their life for Palestine. Better having a fanatic like Ahmedabad in power so we have all the excuse to remove this nasfy regime once and for all.


IRANLOVESISRAEL

Dear Rabbi Mousa67.

by IRANLOVESISRAEL on

I think you need to introduce the basiji brothers to bottrey of Schweppes.

Dr. Love, Ph.D., M.D., J.D.


mousa67

mamoor ahmadinejad joon: i take your threat very seriously!

by mousa67 on

you said one billion cyber mamoor user ID's attacking me with their pink keyboards on iranian.com? no i cant handle that. i'm frightened. i'm running away all the way to "quds".

LOL 


Simorgh5555

The real reason for Richard Perle wanting to go to war in Iraq

by Simorgh5555 on

...and it had nothing to do with Israel.

Wal Street Journal 

 

Perle Linked to Kurdish Oil Plan

Influential former Pentagon official Richard Perle has been exploring going into the oil business in Iraq and Kazakhstan, according to people with knowledge of the matter and documents outlining possible deals.

Mr. Perle, one of a group of security experts who began pushing the case for toppling Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein about a decade ago, has been discussing a possible deal with officials of northern Iraq's Kurdistan regional government, including its Washington envoy, according to these people and the documents.


Simorgh5555

Questions about the Israeli lobby

by Simorgh5555 on

1) If the Israeli lobby is so ubiquitous and omnipotent in Washinton then why has it not secured a presidential pardon for the American Jewish spy for Israel Tom Pollard? Yet, they are so powerful that thet can coax a president into going into war exclusively   for the national interest of the State of Israel. Sharon tried to pressurise the US government to get Pollard a pardon and failed. Netanyahu tried to do the same thing and failed. 

2) Staunch advocates of the war like Douglas Feith, Richard Perlse and Wolfowitz were Jewish but Rumsfeld and Ceney were not. To suggest that the spending trillions of dollars was at the behest of Israel and not Halliburton and US oil and Gas companies is ludicrous. Israeli's interest in going to war in Iraq mayhave co-incided with the Bush administration but it was not the only factor. Iraq being the largest reserve of crude oil on planet earth to be drilled and refined and then appropriated by US companies and their contractors is not part of the equation as to why the US went into war is absurd. The fact is that war, even if it is a noble one, keeps the economy and the American Indusrial Complex in business. I say this even if I agree that military action is necessary and justiified in removing the Terror Regime.  


Simorgh5555

Chomsky Part 2

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M-W focus on AIPAC and the evangelicals, but they recognize that the Lobby includes most of the political-intellectual class -- at which point the thesis loses much of its content.  They also have a highly selective use of evidence (and much of the evidence is assertion).  Take, as one example, arms sales to China, which they bring up as undercutting US interests.  But they fail to mention that when the US objected, Israel was compelled to back down: under Clinton in 2000, and again in 2005, in this case with the Washington neocon regime going out of its way to humiliate Israel.  Without a peep from The Lobby, in either case, though it was a serious blow to Israel.  There's a lot more like that.  Take the worst crime in Israel's history, its invasion of Lebanon in 1982 with the goal of destroying the secular nationalist PLO and ending its embarrassing calls for political settlement, and imposing a client Maronite regime.  The Reagan administration strongly supported the invasion through its worst atrocities, but a few months later (August), when the atrocities were becoming so severe that even NYT Beirut correspondent Thomas Friedman was complaining about them, and they were beginning to harm the US "national interest," Reagan ordered Israel to call off the invasion, then entered to complete the removal of the PLO from Lebanon, an outcome very welcome to both Israel and the US (and consistent with general US opposition to independent nationalism).  The outcome was not entirely what the US-Israel wanted, but the relevant observation here is that the Reaganites supported the aggression and atrocities when that stand was conducive to the "national interest," and terminated them when it no longer was (then entering to finish the main job).  That's pretty normal.


Simorgh5555

What does Noam Chomsky think of Mearsheimer and Walt paper?

by Simorgh5555 on

But recognizing that M-W took a courageous stand, which merits praise, we still have to ask how convincing their thesis is.  Not very, in my opinion.  I've reviewed elsewhere what the record (historical and documentary) seems to me to show about the main sources of US ME policy, in books and articles for the past 40 years, and can't try to repeat here.  M-W make as good a case as one can, I suppose, for the power of the Lobby, but I don't think it provides any reason to modify what has always seemed to me a more plausible interpretation.  Notice incidentally that what is at stake is a rather subtle matter: weighing the impact of several factors which (all agree) interact in determining state policy: in particular, (A) strategic-economic interests of concentrations of domestic power in the tight state-corporate linkage, and (B) the Lobby.

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 Has it been a failure for US grand strategy based on control of what the State Department described 60 years ago as the "stupendous source of strategic power" of ME oil and the immense wealth from this unparalleled "material prize"? Hardly.  The US has substantially maintained control -- and the significant reverses, such as the overthrow of the Shah, were not the result of the initiatives of the Lobby.  And as noted, the energy corporations prospered.  Furthermore, those extraordinary successes had to overcome plenty of barriers: primarily, as elsewhere in the world, what internal documents call "radical nationalism," meaning independent nationalism.  

 //www.zcommunications.org/the-israel-lobby-by-noam-chomsky


Siavash300

Are U saying that you are mullah's agent?

by Siavash300 on

"عزیز جان چرا فحش میدهی؟"maemoor

This is what I said:

"We are million Iranins against stinky mullahs and their bastards supporters." Siavash

Now, are you saying that you are supporter of stinky mullahs? let's make this one clear and then move on.

The hands of criminal mullahs are mix with the blood of thousands of our brothers and sisters such as Neda, Sohrab..... Taraneh Mosavie who was being brutally tortured and raped the night before her execution. Are you expecting to respect the muderers or their bastards supporters?


iraj khan

..and who are these people

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being interviewed in this video?

They are:

American University professors and scholars,

they are people who have served in the Bush administration, such as Colin Power's chief of staff,

They are ex U.S congressmen who were forced out of office by Israel Lobby,

They are Jewish scholars who are being black listed for criticising Israel or the Lobby.

And what do they say?

They are patiently revealing how destructive Israel and Israel Lobby has been to the interests of the United States of America.

Watch the the video, it's in there.


مآمور

bastards???

by مآمور on

عزیز جان چرا فحش میدهی؟
به شازده گفتم به شما هم می گویم....خشم مادر کینه است!! برای فشار خون هم ضرر دارد!!

I wear an Omega watch


Siavash300

Great message from Maemoor to stinky ruling mullahs

by Siavash300 on

"over the time, u stand no chance, we will come no matter how many u kill and rape!!! children of the mothers being raped by IDF and fathers being executed in day light " Maemoor

Thanks Maemoor jan for addressing the issue to Iraj khan and other those who think mullahs are going to stay in power for a long time.

Yes, they stand no chance, we Iranian will come back no matter how many u kill such as Neda and rape our women in Evin Prison.... or execute our children and the mothers such as Nasrin sootodeh or fathers to be executed in day light. We are million Iranins against stinky mullahs and their bastards supporters.


مآمور

yes, there r 1 billion of us

by مآمور on

over the time, u stand no chance, we will come no matter how many u kill and rape!!! children of the mothers being raped by IDF and fathers being executed in day light on street of Qods!!!

we, 1 billion people of the world, will persist until we prevail!!

I wear an Omega watch


iraj khan

The Lobby on IC

by iraj khan on

just sent 3 members (or 3 different user IDs) to this thread in order to shout down the voices of the critics of the Rapist, Racist, Criminal regime of Israel. Pretty much like the Lobby always does even to 100% jewish critics of Israel.

I wonder if they even watch the video? There they could have heard the jewish voices against the Rapist, Racist, Criminal regime of Israel.

The 'Bomb Iran' crowd,

'the assassinate Iranian scientists' crowd,

the bomb and burn Iranians' homes and mosques crowd is back on this thread. 

I can understand their frustraions since our president Mr Barak Hossein Obama sent Netanyahu home without agreeing to attack Iran. 

Can we see the 4th Israel Lobby member (or users ID) here Please?

I will have to go now but will be back shortly to see the results. 


AMIR1973

Multiple User ID Joooo-on-the-Brain Obsession Disorder

by AMIR1973 on

Other than posting on Iranian.com under different user names (after being humiliatingly kicked out by the administrator for numerous hateful, pathological comments), what is there for a West-residing IRI Groupie with Multiple User ID Joooo-on-the-Brain Obsession Disorder to do?


Siavash300

Shame on people who are selling their country to stinky mullahs

by Siavash300 on

"The video shows how Israel Lobby is pushing members of U.S congress and U.S administrator to start a new war with Iran." Iraj khan

No dear, that monkey who calls himself "Iran's president" was pushing members of U.S congress and U.S adminstrators to start the new war with Iran by saying "Israel should be wipe off the map". Don't make mistake. We were living in peace and harmony with Israel and all Arab world. We never had any problem with Israel or any other nations till these Islamic bastards and their supporters took power in 1979. The sad part is that some people are selling their country and their people to a bunch of the stinky Islamic ragheads for few bucks. They back stabb their people for a little money they are receiving from stinky ruling mullahs. That is the shame. Shame on them.


mousa67

mamoor joon: ok we believe you. you are 3 different mamoors:)

by mousa67 on

dont have a heart attack. just remember the "three mamoors" script for future:

mamoor ahmadinejad: the tough (LOL) cyber bassij with big pink keyboard:)

mamoor iraj: the american (LOL) tax payer (double LOL)

mamoor amendment: the clever (triple LOL) mamoor.

then there are sub-mamoors that we wont go into for now.

 LOL


iraj khan

Number

by iraj khan on

1973 just reported and is on duty now,

Israel Lobby member on IC, that is.

It seems like number 67 failed in his mission to discredit others on this thread and left abruptly. 

Number 1973 has entered the thread and his mission is:

'To shout down those who watched the above video and made positive comments'.

But number 1973 has some affliction that needs to be corrected. He needs a series of session of therapy to be more effective.

Since he always mentions the name 'mola, mola', one can conclude that he needs 'Mola Therapy' in order to be more useful as a member of the Israel Lobby on IC.

I'm just saying,

Iraj


AMIR1973

The multiple user ID IRI Groupie Iraj khan/Mola Nasreddin

by AMIR1973 on

Thinks that his pathological, hateful remarks, which have already gotten him kicked out of Iranian.com once already, will make Iranians forget about our countrymen who are getting killed, raped, and tortured by his Fellow Islamist sidekicks in Iran while he/she benefits from US generosity.


Arash Kamangir

Middle East should be proud of Israel

by Arash Kamangir on

Middle East should be proud of Israel who has managed to remain democratic even though it is surronded by hostile dictorships from all sorts. This small country is an example for freedom and democracy. That is why it has many fans all over the World.


مآمور

of iffff

by مآمور on

As per pendar, if one individual can have all these different personalities and can change his /her writing like mr mousa throw away one toy and pick up another one, then he/she should have multiple used ids

I wear an Omega watch


iraj khan

شماره ۶۷،

iraj khan


بابا کجا میری؟

ما امدیم شما رو ببینیم!

مثل این که لا بی‌ تنهات گذاشت اینجا

روی این ترد؟ 

نگفتم گولشان را نخور؟


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by GojehSabz (not verified) on

een kalimi ha hamijoori micharkhan eenja ... bi kar hastan bad-bakht ha :)


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by GojehSabz (not verified) on

Afarin bar shoma, mamoor-jan, va afarin bar Iraj.


mousa67

shouting @ me in capital does not help you either.

by mousa67 on

i truely feel sorry for you. your entire life must center around cyber space. pitiful life of a cyber bassij. your undniable right indeed.

over & out of this pathetic blog by a pathetic actor.

 


مآمور

impersonate Iraj

by مآمور on

بله من ایرج مآمورهستم
فقط میگم

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpXQH1wq5XA&feature=relate...

I wear an Omega watch


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Een website por e kalimi o bahai ast.  100% roshan e.


iraj khan

شماره ۶۷،

iraj khan


یارو دیر اومده و زود می‌خواد بره!

وایستا توی صف تا نوبتت بشه  

انگار که ما چوقیم اینجا...


مآمور

R U FOOLING YOURSELF MR MOUSA?

by مآمور on

if u cant tell me by another one , no matter what id, so who have i been speaking to for past couple of months??

r u hallucinating?? your fetish with london is over now u have found your new novel??

I wear an Omega watch