THIS POST IS AIMED AT TWO GROUPS OF PEOPLE:
1. Those who voted for reform candidates but had their votes stolen with Khamenei's direct assistance.
2. Those who voted for Ahmadinejad but are fed up with the regime's
crimes, lies and coverups since.
WHY VOTING IS FAR WORSE THAN "A WASTE OF TIME"
1. It is unlikely the ultraconservative Guardian Council would even allow a reform candidate.
2. Such a candidate will not be allowed to win in any case.
3. Khamenei will exploit any large turnout as "proof of
legitimacy." See the ludicrous way the Supreme Fraud used the recent 85% turnout as "proof" of legitimacy: "The
elections proved how robust the Islamic Republic is in attracting
public trust" (//www.leader.ir/langs/EN/)
COMMON SENSE
If the regime was embarassed when three million people marched in
protest the day after a rigged election, how will it react to a protest
involving tens of millions and done in a way that is "inconvenient" for
security forces?
If the disenchanted merely boycott the elections, Khamenei will ban all
independent observers and claim they "voted." If they march in the
street, they will simply becpme fodder for his security thugs.
The best way for millions to protest is simply by people who no longer trust Khamenei's words to stand outside
their homes or business from the time the polls open until they close.
The bravest may choose to wear green or carry signs ("We won't be
fooled twice") but its unnecessary and may be inadvisable. A mere
day-long silent protest will do. What can security thugs do about it?
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FG, you don't have an option for victory of people
by Anahid Hojjati on Mon Aug 24, 2009 03:21 PM PDTDear FG, it looks like people of Iran are not in your equation. All your options talk about what regime will do. There are 70 million Iranians and they can do wonders. Maybe I am misreading your blog but I just don't see a scenario that people's movement actually defeats IRI. Why haven't you covered that?
For years the Islamic
by vildemose on Sun Aug 23, 2009 06:37 PM PDTFor years the Islamic establishment has raised the hopes of people for change and then shatters them to reinforce apathy, fear, and ultimately utter hopelessness.Einstein defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Why do Iranians insist on believing that salvation can only come through this regime?
I disagree
by liberation08 on Sun Aug 23, 2009 05:13 PM PDTi dont see how such a protest would hurt the regime. the regime would try to stop any organized boycott of the vote
circumstances can change drastically between now and 2013. the election code could be reformed, and elections might be more fair four years from now
if there is high voter turnout in the next election, and massive fraud is suspected, the hardliners will be weakened even more
but, as you mentioned, the hardliners might do away with elections before then or the council might not allow reformist candidates, like when it disqualified many reformists in '04
Hi, Maziar. An important point I missed
by FG on Sun Aug 23, 2009 02:32 PM PDTDoesn't it make sense to start contingency planning now just in case? Besides I believe there are separate parliamentary elections much sooner. As usual the Guardian Council will ban most reformers and qualify only ultraconservatives as usual. Why not use the election tactic then
In a state of panic, Khamenei and his fellw extremists aren't thinking past a week or so. Assuming the regime lasts another four years, the ruling tyrant (Mojtaba perhaps by then) assumes the regime can offer a few last-minute reforms as "voter bait" then snatch them away after elections.
The time it won't work. The mass of people have come to know only too well how the Supreme Thug operates.
Four-year scenario in answer to your question
by FG on Sun Aug 23, 2009 01:24 PM PDTGiven the monopoly of weapons the regime enjoys, I see several possible scenarios
1. The tug of war goes on four years with more and more people becoming alienated.
2. The hard liners drop the whole idea of elections andstop pretending a republic exists anymore.
3. The regime manages to co-opt some--but not all opponents in a compromise with miniscule reforms and punishment of minor thugs.
In the first scenario, a large majority won't votre. In scenario #3, the situation will be only slightly "better" for the regime. Co-opted reformers will urge people to vote but with limited effect. This regime has lost too much trust.
I see one other option, though highly improbable. The regime could do now what would have worked on election day. That is, hold new or runoff elections, vastly restricting the powers of the Guardian Council and totally eliminating any role by the Ministry of the Interio, the Basilj or the Guard in such elections. It would require safeguards, an immediate count at local poll sites and secure transport of ballots afterwards.
To convince people to vote NOW would require far more--an end of censorship (electronic and otherwise), the release of political prisoners who must be allowed to testify openly and on TV regarding their treatment, massive judicial reform, real investigations by trustable parties into mass graves and rapes, punishment of those responsible and a requirement that no interrogators can wear masks or disguises and lawyers must be present during questioning. Wardens would be held accountable for enforcement.
Without these reforms, the regime will continue the same abuses and no one is safe.
FG
by maziar 58 on Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:20 PM PDTJust curious ; Are you promotting the existence of IR for another 4years ?
Maziar
بنظر شما
vildemoseSun Aug 23, 2009 11:26 AM PDT
بنظر شما کدامیک از جنایاتی که در این دو سه ماهه اخیر رخ داده هولناکتر و تاسفبارتر بود؟
مرگ ندا و آن آخرین نگاهش؟
به خون غلتیدن جوانان بی گناه بر روی آسفالت گرم خیابان؟
ضرب و شتم زنان باردار و مردان سالخورده با باتون و زنجیر و میلگرد؟
ریختن مغولوار به منازل مردم و تخریب اموال آنها؟
بازداشتهای فلهای افراد و بیخبر گذاشتن خانوادههای آنان از وضعیت عزیزانشان؟
بدرفتاری با زندانیان و شکنجه و حبس انفرادی آنان؟
تجاوز وحشیانه به دختران و پسران؟ و سوزاندن جسد آنان؟
برپایی بیدادگاههای مضحک و اعترافات ساختگی زندانیان؟
دروغگویی و شانتاژ تبلیغاتی در صدا و سیما و کیهان و حق را باطل جلوه دادن و سرپوش نهادن بر واقعیتها؟
نه! بنظر من همه اینها «جنایت» بود ولی اتفاق تازهای نبود. سی سال است که در این نظام اینگونه جرم و جنایات به کرات اتفاق افتاده و شاید بدتر از اینها هم بوده که شما گاه و بیگاه چیزهایی خوانده و یا شنیدهاید.
اما هیچکدام از این جنایات به اندازه خود عمل تقلب در انتخابات دردناکتر و تاسف بارتر نبود. شما عمق فاجعه را در انتخاب شدن یا نشدن موسوی و کروبی و یا احمدینژاد نبینید. مهم این بود که این بیپدرها یک ملت بزرگ را تحقیر کردند
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مردم با ذوق و شوق فراوان به پای صندوقها رفتند و این ناجوانمردها در روز روشن به ریش مردم خندیدند و به کاندیداها بصورت سهمیهای رایها را اختصاص دادند. سهمیه آقای کروبی در کل کشور فقط سیصدهزار تا! آنوقت رهبر احمق و بیشعورشان آمد و در نماز جمعه با کمال وقاحت گفت چون اختلاف آرا زیاد است پس احتمال تقلب نیست!
خب! مردک! این اختلاف ساختگی آرا کار خودت و اون باند تبهکارت بوده و نه کار مردم.
این معنیاش فقط یک تقلب معمولی نبود. تمسخر مردم بود. تمسخر انتخابات و رای مردم. تمسخر دمکراسی و تحقیر جمهوریت.//mollah.blogspot.com/