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Fesenjoon
by Fesenjoon
29-Oct-2010
 

Since the late 1990s, this website has championed itself with the motto "Nothing is sacred". I'd like to put that to the test, by writing this column. In this article, I'd like to propose the following hypothesis: That Iranians are not only entangled in a pitiful state of existence, but that they are currently and literally incapable of pulling themselves up from their pathetic way of life; they are idiots.

Now again, not all Iranians fall into this categorization. Some of the most baa farhang people on the planet have lived and do live in Iran. But the majority do fit this class of modern hoi polloi: The Iranian idiot.

Here are my observations in support of my hypothesis:

1. They accept religion, not as a way of improving their lives, but as a violent political ideology. Maybe the Sufis (like Rumi and Attar and Bastami and Hallaj and Shah Nematollah) got it right, but theyve been eradicated by the current regime.

2. Accomplice. Even if they didnt and dont accept it, they're still OK with it, by practically shutting up and keeping quiet about it. How can you keep quiet, when your imam says your Jewish friend and fellow countrymen is najes?

3. Clueless. They bought the promises of Khomeini when he said he would "bring the oil money to the people's dinner table". Did you people even check to see if the man even had a high school degree? Could he even tell the difference between benzeen and naft?

4. Gullible. They not only fell for the same exact promise from Ahmadinejad (bringing oil money to people's tables), but built Khomeini a glittering golden shrine comparable only to Imam Reza himself in Mashad. For what? For saying that "economy is for donkeys"? For mass executions in the 80s?

5. They saw Khomeini's face on the Moon! On the Moon! of all reasons to support a revolution against the Shah. (I mean, wtf?) Talk about superstition! Yeah, this is the same Moon which the prophet Muhammad himself split in half, and nobody else on Earth but his group saw or recorded this event.

6. They love ghor zadan and negh zadan. It's as if Iranians enjoy a negative outlook on life. Always trashing everyone they can. Look at Jalal Al Ahmad. He was literally invited to Harvard by Kissinger as a fellow. Yet he goes around writing "westoxification" shit in return. You can easily sense his hatred of western ideals in his writings. No respect. No appreciation for anything.

7. They LOVE fighting their own kin and pulling their own countrymen down for ideological reasons. It's funny I should mention Jalal Al Ahmad. Look how he got treated by Khamenei et al! It seems, pluralism has no meaning in the Iranian mind. Either my way, or the high way!

8. They embrace Velayat faqih as legit. And if they dont, they still accomodate it by accepting it and quietly living with it. Didnt you abolish the crown? Only to have it replaced by a turban-crown? What gives?

9. They let IRIB and the regime's media easily brainwash them. For 30+ years now theyve drilled in messages like: Israel and Jews are evil. As if other nations have clean hands in their history. Just look at the number of anti-semitists on this website. But then again, Iranians have a history of jew hating. How dare they claim to be the chosen ones! We should! We are Sayyed-e Olaad-e Peyghambar!

10. "Sho'aar-e mellat-e maa: Marg bar Amrika!" Death to America? Why? What did they do to you? Did they not literally build your higher education system? Who do you think "Jordanne Ave." in Tehran is named after? Who founded Iran's first modern medical school? You hate America so much? Then dont be a pathetic hypocrite, sending your offspring here for college, then getting him a green card and passport! Send him to Payam-e Noor of Jamkaran! What makes u think you deserve American tax payers to pay for you and your kind here, when you despise the system from the bottom of your guts? Is it because you use Aftabeh to wash yourself that entitles you to live in America and hate it!?

11. Iranians are a hate filled bunch. Just look at the number of slogans they constantly employ: "marg bar this. marg bar that". As if the sky's ass opened, and Iranians fell thru it down to Earth. The Japanese had 2 Atomic bombs dropped on them, and today they are a top American ally. No grudges. No keeneh. But Iranians? NNOOO!! They have a right to be pissed off at zameen and zaman, because....because...Khomeini said so!

12. Iranians continue to let a bunch of uneducated mullahs rule them. That alone is a BIG reason to their stupidity by itself. How can someone who doesnt know the difference between a nucleoside and a nucleotide, go around giving fatwas about stem cells?

13. A culture of doom and gloom. Iranians are always mourning. Look at the damn calendar! Muharram. Ramadhan. The deaths of 11+1 Imams. Yet they kill the living, and worship the dead. Ya Hossein! We love you! But if you were alive, chances are we'd be sending our basiji death squads to murder you and baby sakineh, for daring to challenge the authority of hazrat-e Imam Khamenei!

14. They are self-deceiving. Do you really think that if Mousavi came to power, things would be that much different? He would be kissing the holy balls of the leader in Beyt-e rahbari right now, and still resisting the IAEA! It's all politics you green fools! Reform has no meaning when the base of the system is corrupt! You want true reform? Separate church from state, so that people can actually build the country, instead of giving sho'ar to please Allah and Seyd Ali (his vice-regent)!

15. They never take responsibility for anything! Why should they? When there is an Imam Zaman that will fix everything, why should we make the effort to make a better country? Let Him fix it! Let the central authority take responsibility. Let the govt clean the filthy joobs! It's their responsibility. Why should I care about not littering, and keeping our city clean?

16. Hypocrites. They keep accusing others of racism and hatred. They cry for Palesteinians, but look away when it comes to Chechniya or Uyghurs. Just look at how the ordinary Iranian treats Afghan refugees. An Afghan as an equal? Kofr nagoo pesar! Torks are khar. Afghans are thieves. Rashtis are sex addicts. Qazvinis are kooni. But Fars? The Fars are simply the best. After all, they have 7000 years of empires and civilizations! (only to finally culminate in idiots like Ahmadinejad? pleeease.)

17. Disregard for laws. Just look at how Iranians drive! A total fuckin zoo! Funny how the same exact people suddenly become law abiding citizens when living in Europe or the states. All of the sudden, they stop at red lights, dont run stop signs, yield to pedestrians, etc. But when they're back in Iran? Mageh koori ahmagh?! Jeloto negaah kon, olaaaaagh!!

18. They lie mesle sag. Chadori by day. Slut by night. It's OK to have sex with your goat, as long as you sport a holy beard, and put on the image of "man of God" holding a tasbeeh on the streets. Only an Iranian can look at TV cameras, and lie to his own people (see 0:30), and claim to have Modiriyat-e Imam Zaman guiding him! What can u say! Not only is lying in Iranian Islam permitted and prevalent, but vaajeb!

19. They put up with a system that treats women like shit. "Your husband cheated on you? Ignore his mistake. Instead, provide more sex to him!" Iranians abhor and detest the treatment of women as sex objects in the west. But it doesnt matter if they themselves use women for group sex, and call them "half brains"! Let alone legalized polygamy. The real nail in the cofffin here is that many Iranian women actually support this backassward culture of repression! Look at the post-Khatami female MPs!

20. Human rights. They call America and Israel the "imperialist aggressors", and lash out at America for Abu Ghuraib and Guantanamo and Guatemala or whatever they can find in the news. Never mind how they beat the shit out of their own political prisoners in Evin or Kahrizak. never mind the basiji death squads that dont even let families hold a tadfeen ceremony at Behesht Zahra. Never mind the Sufis that have been literally bulldozed to nothing. The bahais that have been exterminated. The Sunnis that have been executed. Didnt Shah Abbas have a group of cannibals at his court? I guess the resident Mullahs at his court were taking good notes then.

21. Twisted identity. We are the children of Cyrus! The remnants of the great Achamenids! Thousands of years of magnificent contributions to humanity! But we pray to an Arab God called Allah, who slaughtered us, killed off our Zoroastrians, built Imamzadehs on top of their temples, and called our people majoos and dhimmi like half humans! Funny is how Iranian authorities nowadays desperately try to outdo each other in using more weird Arabic vocabulary in their sentences. Have u noticed? Just watch half an hour of Jam-e Jam-2 to start murmuring to yourself "what the hell are these people talking about"?

22. Stupid pride. They cant even spell properly, yet they go around boasting about putting a man in space! We have the world's top students! But our Tehran U are ranked even lower than that of Saudi Arabia's schools! Let alone Israel's schools! (Sharif isn't even ranked!) But not to worry! Says Tehran University's former chancellor: Iran is third in scientific achievement in Asia! He's a man of God! he must be right! takbeer!

23. They hate their own past! No really, what country does such a thing, erasing its own past? Havent u noticed? Look at all the TV series on IRIB. The bad characters usually end up having names like Siavash, mandana, farhad, kamran, etc. The good characters have names like Hosein, mahdi, Fatemeh, reyhaneh, ...

24. They are bee-tarbiyat! Sure, Americans aint no holy father either. Out of 6 words that comes out of an American mouth, 5 of them are "fuckin this fuckin that, nigga this nigga that, my hoes and bitches!...". But the point is that they never claimed to be any holy father either! But Iranians? They claim to be God's appointed govt on Earth! For someone who has ede'a (ادعا) left and right to have a halo around his head at the UN, such shit talking about the US is just plain stupid, to say the least. Forget the mameh and lulu thing. Lets just assume Mr. President was horny that day. These are the barakaat of enghelaab.

25. Iranians cant even recognize their own interests. They always complain about America being in Iraq, in Afghanistan, meddling in the affairs of others. But dont mention anything if Iran keeps meddling in Iraqi affairs, or if Iran has military troops and weapons in Lebanon. Iranians are always quick to blame others for their injustices. They act snobby and keep enriching to 20% (higher than what's needed for civilian nuclear power), and expect the EU and US to bow to them in respect. Of course there will be sanctions you dumbass! What if you do acquire the technology, and tomorrow, some clown ayatollah (like Jannati) gives a fatwa, declaring halal the use of WMDs against moshrekeen? What guarantee do u have for that? What guarantee do u have that the next day your Imam doesnt wake up declaring WMDs vaajeb "for the cause of Islam"? Decrees can change. Oh, but never mind that Russia is stealing Iran's 20% share in the Caspian. What matters to Iran is the plight of a bunch of Palestinians that dont even consider Shi'a Islam a legitimate faith. As far as they are concerned, Umar did the right thing to kill baby Mohsen in fatemeh's womb. khak bar sar-e ahmaghetoon konand ke eenhaa ro support mikoneed. You deserve to be a pariah state.

Maybe in 2-3 generations, we'll see Iranians that are intelligent and eligible to be taken seriously once again. But for now, Iran will continue to be a country of fools, ruled by fools that stone people to death, and see Jesus Christ in Khamenei. Iran is a country where its president (called the miracle of the thrid millenium) claims that 16 year old Iranians have made nuclear energy in their homes. Not even Bush was that big of a moron.

Iran is simply a country of idiots. "Nothing is sacred"? Well then there you have it.

* by iranian, those iranians are meant that see all the tyranny and horrors of the current regime, and yet continue to defend it and its policies. apology to all those kind hearted humanists that happen to be born in Iran, and dont let tribalistic nationalism clutter their judgement into supporting this abomination of a government.

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13th Legion

My compliments of your

by 13th Legion on

My compliments of your blog, all though I think you have highly generalized some of the topics and have thrown “all” Iranians in the same pot, there is no doubt that as Iranians we suffer from countless cultural handicaps that has culturally held us back in history but yet I see many of your points to be the hall marks of the IRI dictating and jamming slogans and ideologies down our cultures thought!

However what I really like about your blog is the topic of “self criticism” and how it has continued to be an unexplored and avoided issue in our culture, for a very long time deep down in my heart I have believed that before we bring about any type of political revolution we desperately need to bring about a cultural revolution first! The sad thing is that we are not a young nation and despite the many great scholars, poets and philosophers that we have had during the Corse of our long history that have contributed so much to humanity yet our own cultural values have been frozen in time for to long.

We can find many pearls of ethical wisdom in the works of our great and famous scholars that give plenty of hints on the topic of self criticism as a fine guide to personal and ethical self development but for the most part and for some wrong dark reason we as a culture have chose to ignore it and turn a blind eye to it! As a cultural remedy I think we need more and more modern Iranian writers, poets, artists and film makers to promote the idea of self criticism and bring to light the many cultural handicaps that we are infested with and a lot of it boils down to our personal ethics, cultural views and perspective about who we are and our relationships with the world we live in.

I also believe that for the most part the main evil root to our cultural madness is the lack of education,

Academic, social, and most importantly ethical education “be savadi” which helps develop the foundations of one’s views and without it one can consider to be called ‘ignorant” or “Jahell”, for when we look at it  the most fanatic types of revolutions always starts from the slums and the majority of the uneducated and poor sectors of culture, when people don’t have any type of formal education and are poor they tend to fall back on their first line of thought for survival “ religion” and religious leaders, and it makes it that much easier for them to be recruited, brain washed and manipulated by fanatical leaders and schools of thought!  Let’s look at the Pahlavi era which we can consider to be the climax of our cultural, social, industrial economic period of modernization in our modern history, the problem as I see it is during that period the country was modernized in a very fast paste and short time like it was on steroids but the problem is that the minds and thoughts and the level of national education did not grow and keep up with the modernization and growth in other areas and naturally at the end was not appreciated or valued! As a wise man once seed: when you have a majority that is uneducated and tends to produce and give birth to uneducated children by droves, these kids grow up in the slums and streets and with no education and direction end up starting revolutions ;)

 

I also value some of VPK’s comments and find great sense in them.

Great blog and topic fesenjoon, I look forward to seeing how and what it develops into, with no doubt it will be much food for thought for us all ;)


kazem0574

Another attention seeking generalisation (Idiot) blog.

by kazem0574 on

Well you got my attention.

You use the word “they” to refer to the subjects of your blog while perhaps you mean “many, some”. As in today’s Iran you can not claim that all Iranians come under your generalised umbrella.

The Persian Empire (encompassing all its different cultures) was and is a vast and an ancient mix of cultures. Over three millenniums it has endured atrocities from many foes, be it from within or outside its borders. 

Iranians therefore are much older people than compared to Americans. History and time has shown us that no tyrannous invader has ever lasted the sands of time. Some disappeared others got assimilated but tyranny will never win as its against “many” Iranians/Persian peoples attire. So, we tend to buy time more that an American may do.


Iranians believed Khomeini because he simply lied about establishing a secular Iran.  Remember it is a fact that you can fool all of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time

Having been a nation ruled by dictators from our beloved Koourosh  to the Shah, Iranians had never known  true democracy and it is unfair of you to flippantly brush them as simply clueless, when “many” had not known any other system.

Iran’s worst enemy in its turbulent history has to be its Iranian style of Islamisation, as it hammers a very simple message into its subjects, “The rule of Islam  represents god”.  But what about Iranian Islam which is made of some Islam and a lot of hocus-pocus?  The Europeans until very recently were also kept back, purely because the Church controlled them too. Only once the Church was weakened, did they get to where they are today, its been hardly 2 hundred years or so. 

Thanks to the technologies of the modern world, Iranians will not take as long to realise that  their Church (Iranian version of Islam) is what’s keeping them back.

Iranians have historically helped Jews on many occasions,  “Some” are simply following the Islamic Republic's politics of the day and is no way endemic.

The rest of your generalisations going down to negative characterisation of a nation are very petty and purely to increase the number of responses to your blog, so I am not even going to go there.

Any nation with our past and particularly our present has the right to be angry and unhappy , naturally sometimes venting those feelings  in a misguided way, but once again not endemicly so.

The true nature of Iranian people will only be revealed once we have eventually attained a truly secular government, one that has no links to any specific ideology.  

 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Fesenjoon Jaan

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

First of all thank you for writing this rather funny article. It is pretty long so I just want to respond to a few points here:

I agree that some of your points are very good. Specially 2, 11, 12, 13, 14

#11 - Yes, Marg bar has become so common it don't even mean  anything anymore.

#12 -I know it is hard to overthrow a dictatorship. However people did bring it on

#13 - Yes, I noticed many places celebrate the birth of their nations icons. We mourn their deaths. Pretty sad state.

On the other hand I do not agree with these:

#1 - Iranians when given a chance are very moderate religion wise. In fact about half the Iranians Muslims in America have left Islam. The other half tend to be very moderate. Statistics from: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_American#Reli...

#4 - Gullibility is not just an Iranian trait. Anyone who has lived in the USA sees how gullible people here are. Interestingly America is a melting pot. This behavior is not limited to one single race. Pretty much all groups act the same way. 

6# - In my work most of the Ghor Zadan comes from my good American WASP friends! I lived in a condo and again the biggest ghor ghoro was some WASP guy. It is human nature.

#16 - The Palestinian thing is not an Iranianian cause. It is an IRI and Islamist cause. Come on now how many Iranians really worry about it. On the other hand I agree that we have a fair amount of racism. From Turks to Blacks we trash people. I tell you my father  would drop dead if I married a black woman. Also correction:Ghazvini are *not* kooni; they are koon - kon.

#17 - Try driving in Mexico my friend. Or New York or Boston or many other places. In reality there are many places where people drive badly. 

#25  - Why do you think Iranians do not recognize their interested. Many would argue that it *is* in the interest of Iran to have power in other countries. I don't like it because of Islami Republic. But I have no problem with a nationalist Iranian government having power in the other nations. Why not? That is a good way to look after our interests.The real problem is loyalty to Islam not having influence. Because that makes Iranian government use the influence in a way that is bad for Iran.


Simorgh5555

FESENJOON - MASTERPIECE

by Simorgh5555 on

You absolutely nailed it! Brilliant writing: Especially number 16 and 25. This teaches people like Ms Parsi to undergo a series of critical self-examination before she slanders other countries. The problem is US. The Americans are stupid, the British are thieves, they all want to rob our country blind IRANIANS  allow them to do it. WE ARE OUR OWN WORSE ENEMY.

THE RUSSIANS ARE THE WORS ENEMIES IRAN HAS EVER KNOWN BUT LET'S ALL SUPPORT HAMAS ANDN THE PALESTINIANS IN A WAR AGAINST ISRAEL. WHY? BECAUSE WE ARE TOTALLY, COMPLETELY  STUPID STUPID STUPID! 


Maryam Hojjat

Fesenjoon, That was great & unfortunately True!

by Maryam Hojjat on

Thanks for writing this great blog.  I suggest to be on IC  top page for several weeks for a lot of readers.


Datis

Bitterly true!

by Datis on

Dear Fesenjoon,

Man, you are going to be slaughtered by those fellow Iranians who can’t take criticism! Just wait to see!

Also, you will see a lot of comments blaming the IR for all of this! The mullahs definitely have a lot to do with promoting the culture of lie, betrayal, selfishness and backwardness but as you mentioned WE tend to get along with these!

Having said that, you can see more enlightened people among the Iranian youth, which is a good sign. However, these are unfortunately drops in an ocean. As you said, it will generations to get rid of these bad qualities.

 


Niloufar Parsi

fesenjoon

by Niloufar Parsi on

forgive me but i can't help smiling :)

i particularly enjoyed the irony in this one:

"7. They LOVE fighting their own kin and pulling their own countrymen down for ideological reasons."

let's see how this one goes down...