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Dear sophia and Zulfiqar110... I doubt you're 2 different people

You’re just the same person posting under 2 different ID's....

I never claimed to be a Bahá’í...at present I am agnostic...you might want to look it up

And quite frankly I doubt I have the necessary moral character to be one...

You two on the other hand seem to prove their case by just opening your mouths...

I suggest you could follow an old Buddhist proverb that says "it is better to be silent and be accused of being a fool….

Than opening your mouths and removing all doubt..."

Have a nice day...

Predictable and Pathetic?- Surf's up, Mr Ali Akbar

So Ali Akbar/Faryar, let's talk about predictability. You know what I think of when I hear somebody talking about "not taking their medication"?  I think of the sound of the waves of a thousand inarticulate trolls echoing across Usenet from all those people who can't really formulate a proper argument, or simply wish to utilize a well-worn piece of tactical rhetoric. I think of someone who should search google with the terms- "ad hominem" + "take your medication", and who will be able to find plenty of other people out there who like to employ this utterly flacid piece of argumentative garbage in the place of something useful to say. I also think of some one who probably needs to reconsider their strategy. 

When you talk about Zulfiqar's supposed "anger" filling their day, I think of the words of so many bad fiction writers, filling up pages describing people "eaten away by anger", all rolled into the hundred different variations of the same bog-standard metaphors for psycho-spiritual ailment you have employed in your poorly conceived attacks against Zulfiqar.

Interestingly though, I don't hear you telling any of the people fighting for victory against the regime in Iran  to quell their anger, or to maybe take your lead and go for a surf to alleviate their feelings of injustice.

Regardless, here's a few posts leveled against other posters from this very site, compiled (from a list that's probably longer than you remember) to inspire you to continue with your psychologically robotic responses in whatever fashion you see fit- that is of course, in between surfing those glorious, clean-breaking sets you must love so much. (And by the way EVERY relevant post has been archived just to negate any arguments over what various parties have and have not said, so take note):

• //iranian.com/main/node/61145

by IRAN PARAST on Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:40 AM PDT

I have read your comments in this blog, and I have to say that you are completely off the wall here!! If you think that Massoud Khan is a Bahai, or a Bahai sympathizer, you are more 'Unabalanced', and 'Crazier', than I thought you were.

Based on my readings of all of Massoud's blogs, he doesn't care one bit about the Bahai religion, or for that matter, the schism that exists between the Babis and the Bahais. His focus has been, and always was, The Greater Iran, and the National Unity Between the Iranian People.

If you doubt what I am saying, then take the time to read his blogs for yourself. I have an advice for you: If I were you, I wouldn't embarrass myself more than I have so far. Your behavior is clearly that of a Paranoid/Schizophrenic fool.

There is a saying that 'If you give enough rope to a fool, that he will ultimately hang himself'. That clearly applies to you here based on your writings, and comments.

Finally, shame on you for 'Insulting' someone who was trying to help you. You are clearly beyond hope!

by faryarm on Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:07 PM PDT

With respect, I was hoping that you would surprise every one and come out out of your shell and shed  the hate...and the tired old cliches used by IRI and Hojjatiyyih..

 and not to ridicule in any way,but this accusatory tone and quite honestly absurd list,  sounds like a Peter Falk Colombo episode , setting conditions and basis for hostage negotiation :)

I think what people are interested to read is an honest account what happened to you; what has hurt you so much.

You know that the above, even to the unsuspecting, and the uninitiated on the subject, your response comes across as the product of a conspiracy theory, and as a sign of respect for civilized discourse , i am not going to mention that P word..(Rosie , this applies to you too )

Please press that hard reset button in your heart and come back and surprise us all with something about your beleif,claim, hopes  and purpose in life.

• //iranian.com/main/blog/nur/iranian-com-sourcewatchedpage5

by Ostoraliaayee (not verified) on Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:59 AM PDT

This is your Psychologist, please take your medication and avoid light and sound . Be careful on the internet as there are smart people on the net who can read and investigate !. I think IRI has hired you to even discredit Azalis by your writings and behavior. let the anger go and admit that you are not going anywhere in life with this attitude. you have become a liability to whatever cause you attach yourself.

Doktor Majboori

A few well meaning remarks..

by faryarm on Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:50 AM PDT

I sincerely would like this atmosphere of hate to end, regardless of who is right or wrong; As a Bahai I  would be a hypocrite if I wished him any ill will. I would like the people that he loves and trusts to help him in any way they can to stop the condition or whatever that makes him see demons, where there simply is NONE.

 Sincerely

Faryarm"

• //iranian.com/main/blog/faryarm/early-heartfelt-message-about-nima-wahid-azal-nur-old-friend 

 sorry for nur

by Anonymous9 (not verified) on Tue Apr 07, 2009 05:40 PM PDT

After what i read about Nur, I can Only pray for him to be cured from his hatred and jaundice

PS. There is a conventional wisdom that states pure truth should be heard from the mouths of two types; children and crazy people. So if you’re going to paint Zulfiqar as crazy, then the onus is still on you to disprove the things he says, because so far, you are only proving that what he says is in fact true. So which is it going to be? Is Zulfiqar crazy or a liar? If he’s crazy, then by the conventional wisdom he’s telling the truth, but if he’s  a liar, then he can’t be crazy by this conventional wisdom.  Before the June elections,you Baha’is were making an enormous fuss, claiming that Zulfiqar was an agent of the Islamic Republic. Now, that he has proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that he is a bigger opponent in word, and in deed to this regime that what the Baha'is (who weren't even permitted to discuss the election results with each other on social networking sites) have demonstrated, that story has been thrown out of the window, and even they have shelved it. In due time, I am confident that this silly ad-hom about Zulfiqar's mental state will also be shelved, and on such a day, your emperor will stand fully unclothed. 

Dear Zulfiqar110

you are soooo predictable....

just like Pavlov's dog....

>>>>>shhhh<<<<   I hear your bell ringing ....

You have no case, Basiji Faryar...

So just rest. But try as you might, you will never be able to address the closed and shut case against your cult detailed out below. Haalaa boro zoor bezan!

Baha'i Faith
//www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%27i_Faith

Baha'i Internet Agency
//www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%E2%80%99i_Internet_Agency

Then see,
SECTS OF BAHAIS: A Taxonomy of Baha'i Sects, //www.sectsofbahais.com/

&

Documentary film by independent Israeli film maker Naama Pyritz:
BAHA'IS IN MY BACKYARD
//video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2877478116441126906&hl=en-AU

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LAWSUIT

US NSA vs OBF (Orthodox Baha'i Faith)

Recent court victory by the Orthodox Baha'is, and the suit brought by the Haifan Bahai organization against them:

//trueseeker.typepad.com/true_seeker/court_case.html

Judge's decision
//www.truebahai.info/court/139-opinion.pdf

**Appellate hearing (Feb 2009)***
//www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/LF1FFZY0.mp3

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//www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/technique.htm

BAHAI Tactics & Techniques - CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel, Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite, Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully, Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence, Harass... etc., etc....  CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

1. As far as possible they hold back from responding
2. Then they claim no knowledge of the given issue by feigning
ignorance
3. After the exposer has exposed they will try to divert to secondary
and totally peripheral and irrelevent side-issues
4. The exposer is then painted as someone with an axe to grind,
biased, deluded (while they, the bahaim, still have not responded to the main issue exposed)
5. Next they relate mental instability and insanity to the exposer,
i.e. shoot the messenger
6. Then, the last tactic, is to wheel out several dubious personas on
the scene who claim to be neutral non-bahai observers who then begin attacking the exposer as well as the issue exposed while supporting the bahais and their issues as so-called non-bahais

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THEORY OF BAHA’I LYING & EQUIVOCATION

See Susan Stiles Maneck,
//bahai-library.com/bsr/bsr06/62_maneck_hikmat.htm
WISDOM AND DISSIMULATION IN THE BAHA’I WRITINGS: The Use and meaning of Hikmat in the Baha’i Writings

QUOTE
"In many cases hikmat calls for the apparent suspension of a Bahá'í principle in order to ensure the protection of the Faith."

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BAHA'I ADMINISTRATIVE IDOLATRY & STALINISM

QUOTE
"We don't want to be like those people who want to see God with their own eyes, or hear His melody with their own ears, because we have been given the gift of being able to see through the eyes of the House of Justice and listen through the ears of the House of Justice." - Bahai Counselor Rebeque Murphy

To hear this section of her talk go to:
//media1.bahai.us/tab/Highlights/Sunday/30_Counselor_Murphy_Rema...

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BAHAI NOTIONS of FREEDOM of CONSCIENCE according to EX-UHJ member DOUGLAS MARTIN --  Monday, September 23, 2001

//www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/DMartin.htm

Quote

"We have inherited a dangerous delusion from Christianity that our
individual conscience is supreme. This is not a Baha'i belief. In the
end, in the context of both our role in the community and our role in the  greater world, we must be prepared to sacrifice our personal convictions or opinions. The belief that individual conscience is supreme is equivalent to "taking partners with God" which is abhorrent to the Teachings of the Faith."
//www.bahai-library.org/talks/martin.watson.html

NOTE especially, S.G. Wilson,
BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS ASSASSINATION The Muslim World vol. 4, issue 4, 1914
&
BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS DECEPTION The Muslim World, Volume 5, Issue 2, 1914-1915.
at,
//wahidazal66.googlepages.com/babidocuments%28westernsources%29

See as well, BAHAISM AND THE BRITISH
//bahaisandbritannia.googlepages.com/home

Note
HOSTAGE TO KHOMEINI by Robert Dreyfuss (New Benjamin Franklin House: New York, 1980) pp.117-118 (Pdf pages 73-74)

//www.wlym.com/pdf/iclc/hostage.pdf

&

//www.archive.org/details/HostageToKhomeini

...Today the Bahai cult is hated in Iran, and is considered correctly to be an arm of the British Crown. During the destabilization of the Shah in 1978, it was widely reported that in several instances the Bahai cult secretly funded the Khomeini Shi’ite movement. In part, the money would have flowed through the cult’s links to the same international ‘human rights’ organizations, such as Amnesty International, that originally sponsored the anti-Shah movement in Iran. These movements also derive from the “one world” currents associated with the Bahais since the early 1900s. (If any Iranians have been misled on the question of the Bahais by the supposed antipathy of Khomeini’s clique to the Bahais, it should be noted that the Bahai cultists often deliberately encouraged anti-Bahai activities as camouflage)...

Also see pp. 115-116 (Pdf page 72)

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BAHA'I SCAM-ARTISTRY & FRAUD IN THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES: A Multi-Milliard Rial Scam* By A Baha’i Company in Dubai
//groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/0c8df7dca08d52ce#

FBI raids office of Baha’i at Univ. Florida
//groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/97aed7a172da675/1b8eb9f1758c241b?lnk=gst&q=FBI+%2B+Bahai#1b8eb9f1758c241b

BAHAI BUSINESS PRACTICES IN THE USA
//groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/de706298e9a9cd6f#

BAHAI SPY RING IN INDIA BUSTED
//groups.google.com.au/group/soc.culture.iranian/browse_thread/thread/91f9b845cd9105a3/78727004d825a589?lnk=gst&q=Bahai+Spy+Ring+with+India+Busted#78727004d825a589

&

BAHA’I CONTROL ON THEIR ELECTORAL SYSTEM – EXPOSED (Structural features of Bahai Stalinism)
//groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/636c4cedf90dea5b

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Note
Baha'u'llah On the Critics of the Cause

In
Ma'idih-i-Asmani, vol. 4, page 355
//reference.bahai.org/fa/t/b/MAS4/mas4-355.html

Translation by Wahid Azal (Jan. 7, 2009)

Chapter 11

The Critics of the Cause of God (munkirin-i-amru'llah)

The Ancient Beauty in the Tablet of Habib from Maragha, which begins with "H B hear the call of God from the direction of the throne by the protective signs/verses (bi-ayati muhayyimin)..etc." they [i.e. Husayn 'Ali Nuri] enunciate the command (mi-farmayand) [i.e. state],

By God, the Truth, whomsoever criticizes it [i.e. Baha'ism], [which
is] possessed of the manifest, the brilliant, the high and the
perspicuous excellence, it behoveth him to ask his mother [yanbaghi lahu bi-an yas'al min ummihi] about his origins [or 'state', i.e.'hal', meaning he should inquire his mother about his legitimate conception – trans.], for he shall return to the nethermost hell [asfal al-jahim]"…

In Promulgation of Universal Peace p. 322 the following is quoted by 'Abbas Effendi from a prayer by his father, cf. THE BAHA'I FAITH AND ISLAM (ed.) Heshmat Moayyad (The Association for Baha'i Studies: Ottawa, 1990), p.23

O God! Whomsoever violates My Covenant, O God, humiliate him. Verily whosoever violates My Covenant, erase and efface him.

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Note Dr Sa'eed Khan on the Baha'is he knew

From Mission Problems in New Persia, 1926, p. 83, 87 & 89 quoted by William McElwee Miller in The Baha'i Faith: It's History and
Teachings, 1973, p. 289.

 "...There is no conscience with them [ i.e. the Baha'is], they keep to no principle, they tell you what is untrue, ignoring or denying undoubted historical facts, and this is the character of both the leader and the led...As to morality and honesty, the whole system has proved disappointing...I have been in contact with many Baha'is, and have had dealings with many and have tested many, and unfortunately I have met not a single one who could be called honest or faithful in the full sense of these words..."

Dr Sa'eed Khan [was] a highly-respected physician...who had as a
doctor treated the second widow of the Bab, and had for a lifetime
known intimately both Babis [i.e. Bayanis] and Baha'is in Tehran and Hamadan.
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See

William McElwee Miller *THE BAHA'I FAITH: It's History and Teachings
//www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/archives/Baha'i%20faith%20and%20Its%20Teachings%20by%20William%20McElwee%20Miller.htm

Mirza Ahmad Sohrab, BROKEN SILENCE
//www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/archives/SohrabBrokenSilence.pdf

Vance Salisbury, AN EXAMINATION OF SUPPRESSION AND DISTORTION IN 20th-CENTURY BAHA'I LITERATURE
//bahai-library.org/unpubl.articles/suppression.html

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See as well,
//www.bayanic.com [CLICK tab BAHAISM]

==CAUTION NON-BAHAIS==

Dear Zulfiqar110

your reply to my post speaks volumes to your mental instability...

I rest my case ....

Have a nice life 

12th Imam

Shi'ite or Shiite or Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiet, you still have to wait for the 12th Imam

Fozolie, there are many akhounds who don't believe in a literal 12th Imam, but take the whole 12th Imam thingy as a sort of non-literal metaphor. There is a Khomeinist "intellectual" teaching at an American university, Abdulhassan Sachedina, who wrote a book in the early 1980s arguing against a literal appearance of the 12th Imam. An Iraqi Shi'ite mullah in the UK then passed a fatwa of takfir (infidelity) against him claiming he was an unbeliever. But interesting enough it appears to be a view shared by many akhounds, especially the Khomeinist ones. You remember, of course, that Khomeini himself was being claimed by the Khomeinists as the 12th Imam at one point.  

Ali Akbar = Basiji Faryar Mansouri

Faryar jan,

I don't believe you have a life, whatever you say. How many identities do you have on iranian.com again? And how hard are you trying to erase my messages exposing you and your various identities here? That's called not having a life, not anything I do.

No, 'aziz, no rage is building inside me. I am laughing at you all the way to my five minute walk from the sunny Gold Coast beaches here every morning, since you have re-defined pathetic and raised (or should that be lowered) the bar of pathetic.

BTW all messages you people are flagging which are being deleted are being kept by me and my associates for future evidence.

As for your other typical below-the belt Baha'i araajif,

//www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/

BAHAI Tactics & Techniques

"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel, Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite, Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully, Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence, Harass... etc., etc....  CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

1. As far as possible they hold back from responding
2. Then they claim no knowledge of the given issue by feigning
ignorance
3. After the exposer has exposed they will try to divert to secondary
and totally peripheral and irrelevent side-issues
4. The exposer is then painted as someone with an axe to grind,
biased, deluded (while they, the bahaim, still have not responded to
the main issue exposed)
5. Next they relate mental instability and insanity to the exposer,
i.e. shoot the messenger
6. Then, the last tactic, is to wheel out several dubious personas on
the scene who claim to be neutral non-bahai observers who then begin
attacking the exposer as well as the issue exposed while supporting
the bahais and their issues as so-called non-bahais

On the contrary...

My brother, you are the one needing serious help. The first kind of help you need is to work on your honesty. The first place to start with that is to drop the masks your Baha'i administration tells you to put on pretending to be a non-Bahai when it is obvious as the noon day sun that is exactly what you are. To succeed in that endeavour you need bravery (shoja'at), and to acquire bravery is to first look at the convoluted lies that your cult forces you to peddle and to break its chain by simply refusing to continue lying.

Once you do the above, you will be healed from the shackles of darkness the Baha'i cult has burdened you with!

Dear Zulfiqar110

While you were spamming on the computer yesterday, the rage must have been building up in inside you, I went Surfing! Surfing was great. I got above the waves and the sun was dazzling at the beach. I’m afraid I got a little sun-burned. But it was worth it. I don’t remember when a day of surfing was sooooo glorious!

You on the other hand appear to have had a set back with your Internet addiction and your struggle with your mental illness. Are they adjusting your medication? If so it really shows. You seem especially agitated today. You really need to read through the piece on Internet addiction. The rage inside you shows— in your posts though I skipped over most of them because they are the same old Spam. It was very interesting that you’re slipping—posting the same Spam under different user Ids…. DEAD-GIVE-AWAY!!!!

You addiction does appear to be getting worse—that rage to get somebody—anybody—to talk to you must really eating at you inside. I can’t imagine how it must be affecting your health. That acid eating at your stomach must hurt something terrible! You need to calm down. While the rage is eating you alive other people like me (snicker) feel nothing. You are just hurting yourself .Poor, poor, poor social misfit, and pathetic needy little weasel! (chortle)

I must admit I didn’t think of you at all while I was on the beach! I do love to Surf. Do you Surf—of course you don’t— your physical deformities could never allow that—I’m sorry to bring that up. That was very insensitive of me.(he he)

Well I took a hot shower and turned in early. A good day of Surfing really wears me out.

I know that trying to “get” me means so much to you so why don’t you just pretend I’m here waiting for you to post your next bit of Spam. Don’t worry I won’t tell anyone. You just post your little heart out.

I know it’s not nice but maybe you could pretend you’re like me and have a life outside these silly boards. You know if you wore a bathing suit and went to the ocean maybe people wouldn’t see you and wouldn’t laugh!

I have a life! You don’t. Too bad, soooooo sad! Soooooo Pathetic!

Zulfiqar you seriously need help

Zulfiqar you seriously need psychological help and I don't mean that as a joke.  Now you are scaring me.  I don't wanna play anymore.  LOL

I ruined it!

Acutally I ruined the pun. Mea culpa. I made a spelling mistake too!! :-))))) 

I meant to say Shiite which what the newspapers (Guardian was the first one I think) switched from'Shia' (circa 1979!).  Then Shiite or Shite became another word for sh*t.

Quote from an earlier article on this site:

A funny instance of that is we have done to the word "Shia", having turned it into "Shi'ite". Obviously some very proud person, similar to those who are trying to impose the term "Farsi" on the world must have talked some hapless journalists during the Iranian revolution into correcting "Shia" to a literal translation and its correct Arabic lettering, with the consequence that my religion's name is now SHIT! And it's become a common joke as many people now instead of  saying "sugar" say "Shiite".

Unquote

It reminds me of an Omid Djallili stand up routine when he makes fun of yuppie Brits trying to show their hip credentials by pronouncing foreign terms in an authentic accent as possible.  :-)

All of this doesn't make a damn bit of difference when it comes to the main topic at hand though , however you spell it, Shi'ite or Shiite or Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiet, you still have to wait for the 12th Imam. By definition you can't have it till he arrives, so don't worry about it.  ;-)

Mr. Fozolie

Jan-i-janan-i-baradar

Faramarz jun,

You people still haven't figured out where I stand in regard to the bigger questions, so let me break it down for you one more time and more easily. Exoteric religion (din-i-zahir-gara ya zahir-gara'i mazhab) - and that means all exoteric religions without exception (i.e. Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Baha'ism, you name it) - to me is utterly bullshit and false. As my late French intellectual mentor and initial spiritual preceptor, His Holiness  Henry Corbin ('aleyhi salam wa ruhi ma siwa' fadahu), once put it the religion of the synagogue, the church, the mosque (and I would add here, the Baha'i institution) = Ahriman, i.e. devil. I am a follower of the path of esotericism and gnosis, i.e. 'irfan, and have more in common with a Suhrawardi (who intelligently while creatively picked and chose from a whole range of religious ideas and philosophies to express himself) than one dimensional religionists who are already-always imprisoned in only one given doctrine which binds them to its burdens and so eternally blinds them thereby. I can walk and talk with a Jew via his/her Kabbalah. I can walk and talk with the Zoroastrian via his Bundahishn and the Mazdaean mysteries. I can walk and talk with the Christian mystic through the prism of Chrisitian gnosis and esotericism. I can talk and walk shoulder to shoulder with the Muslim through the context of the rich heritage of Sufism, Isma'ilism and Shi'ite theosophy. I can do the same with the Hindu, the Buddhist, the Taoist and the Indigenous shamanic believer as well without being beholden to any single one of these traditions exclusively.

In fact because I found all existing exoteric religions to be total crap (especially, and above all, the Baha'i faith) I created my own esoteric religion, which I call the NUR. I became my own Prophet, Revealed my own Book, my own sacred calendar and spiritual commandments:

//19commandments.blogspot.com/

Do you understand now? 

Dear Brother Zulfiqar

Comon my friend....now you are pretending to be non religous ?!  LOL   

Dear John,

You are amazingly smart.  Thank you for pointing that out to me.

Use a spell checker

And get a sense of humor too. You are no Hadi Khorsandi by a long-shot, although there could be potential. BTW here is a sneak preview of your Baha'i Utopia:

DEATH TO TOTALITARIANISM! COMMUNIST, ISLAMIC & BAHA'I!

The meaning of Shite

Dear F_F, you seem to have misunderstood Mr Fozolie's humour, so you may be interested to know that "shite" is the very British word for "shit".  He was writing that you are shit.

She-e'

Mr. Fozolie,

With outmost respect, I beg to differ.  Most correct spelling is Shia.  Many use Shiet.  Cannot say I have seen Shite in too many places! But thank you for the notice.

By the way, your login name s/b   Fozuli or Fozooli or Fozouli

The way you spelled it is Fo Zo Li    sort of close to fazleh

Faramarz 

No Dude

The spelling is Shite, you are Shite, that is why they won't let you in. It will be yours only when 12th Imam appears. 

Mr. Fozolie