Towards Freedom

Dear Ladies and Dear Gents

I believe that every one of you harbor in your heart a deep love for your homeland and its people. We all may at times get over excited or angry and call each other such and such or accuse one another of this or that (I, myself, am guilty as charged and am deeply sorry if I have caused any offense in the past and will strive to avoid it in future). 

But surely Nedas and Sohrabs did not lose their beautiful lives to see further divsions created amongst their mourners. We need to respect that.

FR

Anonym, Farah & Mina Khanoom,it was addressed to me

Believe it or not, ask her and she will tell you that outta frustratioin she was calling me a warmonger just because I commended RedWine on his consistant opposition to IRI and not because it was fashionable;

//iranian.com/main/blog/redwine-323

And as if it wasn,t enough she brought her venom in my absence to this blog too .so she took it personal & started her  badmouthin routin insinuating that I wanted to bomb Iran::))..but the problem with that is that folks who know me would simply laugh at that disgusting comment..I have never ever never ever under any circumstances asked for bombing of Iran be it surgical or otherwise , just show me one word or line from my blogs or comments that I have ever advocated for this(my mom dad sisters brother some cousins still in Iran) or admit that it is just a childish hysterical reaction of vengefull individual who will not stop at any level to lie and deceit her way outta her dilema.

Dear jj, pls do not delete since I,m only responding to her charge that was unreplied on another blog but this is the 2nd time and there are no offensive words it it.

//www.iranianidentity.blogspot.com/

//www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia

enough

where did I call you zionist? stop lying! where did you see a comment from yesterday?! you think people believe you and won't check your "proof"?

This is it:

I will not respond to your accusations. I did not call you anything! You are the one labeling me not the other way around.

How unfortunate that you can't respect the blog about a slain Iranian young man!! 

enough is enough

IRANdokht

Irandokht--Are you Denying & Twisting This One Too?!!!!

First of all, you can't sugarcoat this one: your comment was deleted because it was abusive and slanderous.

You call anyone that you disagree with a "Zionist", a supporter of Israel and a person who wants Iran attacked.  You were going around calling Kaveh Nouraee that yesterday. here's the link so that you don't deny it:

//iranian.com/main/news/2009/07/06/crocodile-tears-iranians

I guess all you clowns have learned from the IRI that you can do whatever you want and say whatever you say so long as you call the other side a "Zionist".  That's just isn't right.  

One just has to read the comments below (or in my case, every comment that I have written on this site for that matter).  Where have I ever supported "Zionists" or called for an attack on Iran?  Yet, you go around slandering me and Mina and tell us that we do exactly that just because we told you that your comment about an attack on Iran on this blog was improper and uncalled for.  Stop it with this silly IRI game.  Enough is enough.  Hundreds of people were gunned down in the streets of Iran, thousands are in prison being tortured as we speak, and here you are still playing that old IRI "you're a Zionist" game---without any evidence, I may add.

It's time for everyone to see what and who you and people like you are.  

Sorry FR

I'll just have to respond once... can't let people go to the judge alone on this one:

111 for your information my record is clear, I do not get out of line when leaving comments for people.  You'll need a lot of glue to make this one stick.

IRANdokht

Irandokht, Did You Notice That Your Comment was Deleted Also?

So, I will repeat what you said about comments getting deleted:

"Only insults and slander get deleted"

"since your comment was flagged and deleted, I suggest you watch it with the insults and accusations. I am glad someone here is in charge to teach some people manners."

So, I guess that applies to you as well?  I hope you will carry this lesson forward and stop slandering people who disagree with you.

t:(

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-YT 

Dear FR

You're right people are resilient and as much as losing a child hurts the mother, life goes on. But as the mother of a 22 yr old young man, I will not be cheering other people's children on and sending them out on the streets and in harm's way. I could not live with myself.

Thanks for your blog

IRANdokht

PS: I am sorry things got out of hand a little. I will not contribute to the efforts of others who want to make this a personal battle field.

Farah

You are abosultely right.  No other debate should have been on this blog had it not been for Irandokht's abrupt injection of red herring to divert attention from the struggle of the Iranian people.  But given the fact that this is IRI's favorite tactic, it is no surprise that its supporters do the same thing on the web and elsewhere.

Irandokht: there are a couple of sayings that apply to you: if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.  Also, I guess you can dish it out but you can't take it.  You, sister, are the one with the slander, accusing everyone who disagrees with you of being a "Zionist" and supporter of "Israeli thirst for Iranian blood".  I don't know if that's not a slander what is.  You don't think that those remarks are insults?  You think slandering people and calling them things that they are not is insulting?  I repaet my demand again:  show us that you are not a liar, and show where on this site I have ever defended Israel or an attack on Iran? 

We're waiting, tic, toc, tic, toc...

If you can't show it, and you're accusing me of it, then you are a liar.

Dear Anon111 and Irandokht

As this is the blog that i created i feel somewhat guilty of having opened up an old wound in this blog while I had no such intentions. I just wanted to draw the attention of iraniandotcomers to the agony of a mother coping with the murder of her son. But it seems that my intention was somewhat misplaced and a different debate has flared up here. Therefore, allow me to share with you my thoughts, my hopes and my fears. 

Let me begin by stating that nothing in the world can comfort a grieving mother over the death of her child. Nothing can justify the death of a son or a daughter. Perhaps the best demonstration of such painful sentiments was displayed in the movie version of Sophie's Choice. But this is from the mother's angle. The child's view may be totally different. Tens of thousands of young men and women lost their lives during the course of the modern Iranian history and many more in the previous era although I am sure you are fair enough to agree that no less than ninety percent of them were perished in the last thirty years (Iran-Iraq war included).

Yet, us humans have a capacity of living with pain - up to some point. True, if a war of any kind breaks out multitudes of such young lives will be lost. But all this can be avoided at a much lower cost if the regime and all its apparatus of fear is brought down by the people of Iran and no other outside force. I am under no illusion that more young men and women my lose their lives but do you seriously think that the criminal system that has robbed Nedas and Sohrabs from us will go away without a fight? We need to remove this source of infection before the entire body is lost.

We owe this to Neda and Sohrab. 

FR

Only insults and slander get deleted

and since your comment was flagged and deleted, I suggest you watch it with the insults and accusations. I am glad someone here is in charge to teach some people manners.

I will not respond to you two anymore out of respect for this blog and Sohrab's memory.

IRANdokht

Well, Irandokht Jaan, Since you Flagged the Comment

I repeat: where Have I ever defended Israel on this site?  Tell us.  Much to the contrary, I have always called Israel a racist, criminal and apartheid regime.

But again, despite your best efforts, this is not about Israel, the U.S. or any other country.  This is about a young man who was killed in cold blood by a brutal regime.  You calling everyone who disagrees with you or the IRI an "Israeli supporter" is an insult to the thousands of brave Iranian protetsors who are being tortured in Evin and are being accused by the IRI of being "Zionist agents" or "British agents".  It is also becoming boring and old...and thefore, very ineffective.  Evryone knows that accusing people of being "Zionsist" is IRI's favorite tactic.  So, please find something new. 

Thanks Mina Jaan

I agree with everything you said.  Your observations are very true and to the point.  That has been my experience with this individual as well. 

Dear Anonymous 111

Thanks for your comment.  Farah's avatar is the same  as mine.  You must have thought that my comment was written by her. Which is perfectly fine with me. I am  planning to post one of my pictures as my avatar soon. 

I do not waste, the little time,  that I have on trying to reason with IRANdokht.  In my opnion, either IRANdokht and jaleho are the same individual or they are strikingly similiar in : their style of writing, their way of thinking (although IRANdokht appears more reasonable at times), their way of chastising people for being "rude", Etc... In short they, or I probably should say, She/He are/is great at the art of  "safsatehgari",  I have no patience for people like that. And I suggest you stop wasting your time too. Because no matter how many times you explain yourself She/He goes right back to accusing you of having said something that you have not.  Total waste of time and energy.  Not worth it. 

Irandokht - Nice Try, But No Cigar

OK, Farah Rusta posts a video of the funeral of a young man who was killed by IRI thugs.  There is no discussion on her part--let alone advocay-- about anyone attacking Iran.  You jump in and try to change the subject by talking about a "surgical military strikes" on Iran and its consquences, and try to rile people up emotionally so that they forget about IRI's crimes.  Her and I then criticize you for that sneaky, thinly veiled effort.  You then try to change the subject, again, by accusing us of supporting mass murder of Iranians by saying:

"You both seem very disturbed by me not wanting to see more young Iranian people dead! Even if you don't have a problem with the idea, I most certainly do!

Sorry I have to disagree with you both: mass murdering Iranians is not something that I would feel ashamed of condemning no matter how you'd want to label me for it.  I seriously wonder how you'd even begin to justify that line of thinking.... "

Now, explain to us where farah or I ever advocated an attack on Iran here or any other place on this site. If anything, you were the first one who brought up the subject.  is Farah's posting of this funeral video an advocacy for an attack on Iran?

Sweetheart, we are not "disturbed by [you] not wanting to see more young Iranian people dead".  We are disturbed by you for using the same old fear mongering tactic that IRI so shamelessly uses to silence its opponents and its critics.   And for that, I have to say: shame on you!

minadadvar and anon111

You both seem very disturbed by me not wanting to see more young Iranian people dead! Even if you don't have a problem with the idea, I most certainly do!

Every life is sacred, whether taken by a gun or tons of explosives thrown on people in bombs. Sorry I have to disagree with you both: mass murdering Iranians is not something that I would feel ashamed of condemning no matter how you'd want to label me for it.  I seriously wonder how you'd even begin to justify that line of thinking....

111

if you want to see disgusting comment please read your own one more time and try to show respect for this blog. Do you speak like that at people's funerals too???  where is your manners?

IRANdokht

Irandokht - Your Comment is Disgusting

You say:

"Can you imagine how many Sohrab and Neda and Mohsen and Fahimeh and Ashkan and Bahman and... would die in an even "surgical" military attack on Iran? The results of such actions would be devastating... "

Aside from being a total diversion and a red herring, what does the funeral of this [yet another] victicm of IRI thugs have anything to you with a "surgical strike"? Farah was right the first time.  This comment sounds more like something that "Jaleho" or "Shah Ghollam" would say--or something that we would read on PressTV of Fars News.  Why don't you start talking about Gaza and the roots of the Israeli / Palestinian conflict while you're at it and relate that to the uprising in Iran?  Who was talking about or advocating a military strike?

Gooz che kar dareh be shghigheh?!!!!

Your comment is disgusting and is a sorry attempt to divert attention from this tragedy.

Irandokht Khanoum I wouldn't dream of ...

suggesting that you are/were somehow connected with or God forbid condoned the events mentioned in that document. No way! I just thought to bring that to your attention as there is a passage in that document in which the regime authorities ask the mothers of the arrested boys and girls to come and "collect" them. I just wanted to show that people like Moussavi and his wife who have paid a visit to Sohrab's parents to pay their respects were among the top authorities who were in charge of the country's affairs when thousands of the youths (and yes a majority of them were MKO members) were put to death. That's all. No disrespect to you was intended and if implied I do apologize.

FR

Mina Khaoum

Thank you for your kind and emotional words. If mothers of the world unite, there will no longer be a war to fight!

By the way, while I am honored to have the same avatar as you, I think out of respect for you, perhaps, I should change my avatar to something else. As you know I am not half as respectable and dignified a lady as you are and I don't wish to have your good name tarnished by my bad one :)

FR

Mothers

I think only mothers can understand each other's pain and I can only imagine the heartache of all of those mothers who have lost their children and hope that I would never have to endure such tragedy.

My heart goes out to all those who have lost a precious loved one for other people's greed and ambitions.

IRANdokht

Irandokhte aziz

As a mother, I cannot bring myself to see any mother grieving over her son's (or her daughter's) death. I would like to state here for the record that I have never supported any attack on Iran, surgical or otherwise, and do not wish to see even the mother of a basiji crying over her son's lifeless body. But let us remind ourselves that not so long ago there were thousands of grieving mothers who lost their sons and daughters while many of today's reformists were, either by association or directly, involved in their deaths. Those mother are are still mournning their children's death. Please see this:

//www.irajmesdaghi.com/page1.php?id=280

Thanks for your comment.

FR

Farah and IRANdokht

Dear Farah: Thanks.  Just heartbreaking.  I have a 21 year old son.  I can not imagine what this poor mother is going through.  IRI is a backward, barbaric and brutal regime.

IRANdokht, sometimes, I wonder about, who you really are.  Your comment, here,  sounds a lot like something that jaleho might have said!!! 

Losing a child is every mother's worst nightmare

Can you imagine how many Sohrab and Neda and Mohsen and Fahimeh and Ashkan and Bahman and... would die in an even "surgical" military attack on Iran? The results of such actions would be devastating...

Here is a longer list of the victims:

//www.rowzane.com/0000-2009/e-m07/janbaxtegan...

Thanks for the post

IRANdokht