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Kaveh is the biggest freak show on iranian.com

Americans for a Democratic Republic in Iran.

That sick psycho Kaveh nouraee is just plain nuts.

There is no doubt that there will always be 2 political parties in the United States.  A liberal one will exist in the future and a radical liberal one.  The Republican party and the conservative party will cease to exist.

This is America, it is what it is.

And that sick psycho Kaveh is insane.  No one on Iranian.com likes him and they all are disgusted with his views.

Fish

I don't know what's funnier...

Watching you defend Republicans, or......

Watching you defend them to that psychotic freak Banayan! 

ROTFLMAO!!!

You made my day!

AF & Rosie

I think comparisons between Mccain or Obama for matters "serving their
country" are pointless. 

But my comments in regards to McCain were in response to IRANdokht who claimed the only think worthwhile McCain had ever done in his life was to selct palin as his running mate, or something like that. I think I mentioned I didn't vote for McCain, myself :)

There's a lot about McCain's politics that I don't like, and I didn't vote for him in 2000 or 2004 either. But it seems quite biased and downright mean to mischaracterize somebody's background just because you don't like their political positions. Especially when she contrasted him to Obama... because if there's ever been an empty suit in the White House, it is Obama. I'm sorry, but that's just not going to play, with me.It's foolish to compare Obama's background to somebody like McCain (of all people! A war hero versus a lawyer!?) - that isn't Obama's strong suit.

But I am utterly convinced
that a military mindset is a detriment to leading our country.

I tend to agree with you on that. There's a reason why the founding fathers put the military under civilian control.

A
military mindset (under the puppet control of cheney over bush) is what
got us into the mess in Iraq.

I disagree with you there. As far as I know, none of the prominant neocons ever served in the military, nor did they ever demonstrate any spoecial understanding of the military. If anything, they demonstrarted appalling incompetence with their application of US military power.

anyhoo.  I'm bored with politics.  :-)  I wanna bash McCain on that
sucky voice of his.  Does it not just irriate you to death to hear that
mushy wussy voice and look at those beedy eyes? 

Yes, the poor man has an even worse "presence" than Bush, and that's really saying something :o

Rosie,

This is a very interesting topic. I'd kind of like to run with it a bit. Check back. 

Will do! I'm heading out for dinner soon anyway, but I'll be back tomorrow if not later tonight :)

davood

You are sorely mistaken agha.  I am as democrat as they come.  I have great distaste for most of the republican theories and beliefs.  But that's where I draw the line.  The republican party is absolutely essential to a working government in the US.  It's called "checks and balances".   Any party with absolute control is a dictatorship.  Therefore the republican party is both essential and necessary.  Not necessarily "welcome" though.  :-)

Your comments don't reflect the "american" mentality.  I don't know WHO you really are, nor do I care.  But I'm just as offended by your psuedo-americanism as I am the vile anti-american sentiments expressed here. 

This IS America... thank God.  As much as I might disagree with ANY republican, I adamently reject your theory that they are not welcome.  There is a much more subversive group of people (hiding out here in anonyminity) that don't belong in the US.  Why don't you spend your considerable wrath on THEM?

Now here I am defending republicans when I like nothing more than ridiculing them.  See what you made me do!

Democrats control all 3,executive,legislative and judicial

Americans for a Democratic Republic in Iran.

McCain is an idiot.  His 5 minutes are over.  Sarah Palin resigned as governor of Alaska with zero chance of ever running for office again.  The Republican party has no power anymore.  Democrats control the Congress.  The President is a Democrat.  And Judge Sotomayor, a Puerto Rican will be filling the vacancy in the Supreme Court.

The Republican party is in disarray.  In 4 years the Republican party will be disbanded.

Who ever is a Republican should run and hide.

The Republican and conservative beliefs are no longer welcome in the United States of America. 

The Republican Party will cease to exist just as the Whig party.

More info about the whig party:

Whig Party (United States), one of the two dominant political parties in power in the U.S. from the mid-1830s to the mid-1850s. The party was formed about 1834 by members of the defunct National Republican party and others opposed to the policies of President Andrew Jackson. It was composed of many factions, united only in their opposition to the Democratic party.

Microsoft ® Encarta ® Encyclopedia 2005 © 1993-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

This is America, if you don't like it you are free to leave.  I am proud to be an American.

See this clip and suffer if you don't like U.S. President Hussein Obama:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=RINqibpWOzQ

and look at this photo of President Obama with General Odierno:

//www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/...

There are more

courage, integrity, discipline, honesty, principle, credential, service to the nation, resilience, balls, etc. etc. in McCain's poop than in the entire IRI supporters on Iranian.com or around the world for that matter!

To all you IRI nocheh, get lost.

Javid McCain!

Craig,

I really was serious when I said to contact me off the thread but since at least this section of it is with people I feel more comfortable with, I'll say a couple of things here:

I don't think it's cynical at all to watch what people do and disregard what they say. I guess it depends on your definition of cynicial. As regards the people we're talking about (loosely as a group--I would imagine you might go for a name like "Apologist Sabzi', well I don't have time right now to think about everything you said in depth, and reply, but I will do it hopefully tomorrow, so check back.

Meantime I will just mention to you that I did coin a term here once, just reacting out of anger and frustration, I said 'you're a Fascist in petticoats' and it was a guy...so nothing you said surprises me. As regards the biases you're talking about, you do remember that I'm the one that wrote two blogs about it and encouraged the other blogs, don't you? The blog questoning the fairness of moderation during the Gaza thread wars was the first thing I wrote when I came back here after a half a year. 

This is a very interesting topic. I'd kind of like to run with it a bit. Check back. But one thing I can tell you is that I don't give a sh-t if you tell me you think I don't understand. Why would I? What is there to apologize for?

r.

Fish

Oh, so now I'm a toy, a source of amusement.

(in my best Jack Benny impersonation) Well! 

:-)

Since you love McCain so much, I thought you'd enjoy this:

//www.hulu.com/watch/23412/saturday-night-live-to-love-honor-and-stalk

Kaveh and PC

I'll concede to you about California.  Don't rub it in.  :-)

I still disagree fundamentally with your private sector comments.  I DO work for the private sector.  And that isn't who got us in trouble.  It was wall street guys and there just isn't way of getting around that.  You will want to blame the democrats for that as well.  I do not.  We will simply disagree on this issue.  You see disaster under Obama.  I see hope.  And not just for the "me me me" sector.  But for everyone. 

I'm not one of those who pick on someone just because he's a republican. Well, except Kaveh cause it's fun.  I'd only expect the same in return. 

I don't like McCain because he's a bumbling ass.  I don't see how or why or where his captivity during VN or his military service stands him in good steed for running the country.  I think his moral character SUCKS.  And I think that is more important then his military service.  Remember...good ole GW didn't serve his country either.  I think comparisons between Mccain or Obama for matters "serving their country" are pointless.  I personally think having a military background is a disadvantage.  Not because I don't support or respect the military.  I do... whole heartedly.  But I am utterly convinced that a military mindset is a detriment to leading our country.  A military mindset (under the puppet control of cheney over bush) is what got us into the mess in Iraq.

As far as Afganistan... I'm of the opinion that something needs to be done.  The taliban needs to be dealt with.  I offer the opinion that our efforts should be maximized.  Get in.  Get rid of them.  Get out.  That is exactly the problem with Iraq.  We didn't take care of business.... period. 

It is my opinion that an intellect in the white house is superior to having a bully in the white house.  These are my opinions guys... it remains to be seem how this mess is going to turn out. 

But it's for damn sure that YOU cannot prognoss the future based on the last 6 months.  If you're that clairvoyant... then where the hell were you in the last 8 years.  Just you sure weren't solving the problems we're in now.

anyhoo.  I'm bored with politics.  :-)  I wanna bash McCain on that sucky voice of his.  Does it not just irriate you to death to hear that mushy wussy voice and look at those beedy eyes?

AF

You want to act like the mess in California is his fault.  Don't bother
wasting your breath on that one.  Try telling that to the teachers who
can barely survive while the fearless republican leader has bankrupted
the state into a shit hole.

It seems you forgot what was happening in California *before* teh Governator got elected!? Isn't that what you are caccusing Kaveh of, in regards to Obama? lol.

My ex-wife is an LA County probation officer, and I was still married to her whenGray Davis was recalled and he got elected. Do you rememebr WHY Gray Davis got recalled? I do. I still remember all the times my ex was notified that the probation department was going to be laying people off due to budget cuts, too. And I still remember how much stress that caused her. Maybe we *should* ask teachers their opinions on the matter? But only ones who have been on the job long enough to remember the before and after. At least Arnold has the excuse that he's getting hammerred by an international ecomomic crisis. Gray Davis was having budegtary difficulties during a period of record growth. And businesses started leaving California in the early 1990s, long before Shwarzenegger took office.

Rosie

Those people came out because they never  really were supportive of the IRI. The vast majority believed in its reform...

I'm sorry to say this because I like you, but I think it is you who don't understand. The people I'm talking about behave EXACTLY the same way the regime itself acts. They stifle other people's free speech when things they don't like are being said (I've had my comments deleted dozens of times, even when I was just trying to DEFEND myself fromvicious attacks, and I even had my account deleted), they threaten people, they make nasty and bigotted comments about people they disagree with, they demean women and foreigners, they demonize the west, they demonize other religions...

And yet, you say these folks wanted reform of the IRI? From there persepctive, what is there to reform? Isn't teh IRI exactly the same kind of government they would create, if they had teh opportunity?

I was taught a long time ago when I was in the Marines that I should disregard what people say and watch what they do. That this is the only way to be sure of what somebody's intentions are. It's a very cynical teaching, but it has helped me more often than not even after I got out of the Marines. There are a lot of people out there who lie about their intentions as a matter of course, and in fact rely on deceit to achieve their goals. 

Kaveh, excellent!

You nailed the perverbial nail squarely on the head, in your last post, regarding Obama and the tyranny of big government. In fact, at this pace, if the US government gets any bigger and bigger, they'll start to one day resemble the all powerful and arrogant mullacracy in Iran, the tyranny of men who "think" and truly "believe" they know better!

Just look at the US Post Office, for example. They don't pay rent, nor utilities expenses as they are a governmental monopoly. They don't pay taxes. And yet, every year the US Post Office loses money, whereas Federal Express, DHL, and UPS, all privately owned companies (WITH A PROFIT MOTIVE) make scads of money every year!

Obama makes me sick! And his cult following (his supporters) make me even more sick! His foreign policy is bordering on recklessly criminal, specially with respect to the middle-east where he's trying so hard to impress muslims and befriend terrorists, and his domestic policy is bordering on communism. And I'm not exaggerating one bit!

But you said it perfectly, Kaveh: Big government is tyranny. So simple, which was the very foundation and purpose of removing the British cancer from the original 13 colonies. Now we have this democratic mindset, this malignant tumor to deal with, what a freaking bunch of bullshit heaped on the American revolution!

Fish

Where is the $800 billion going to come from?

Where's the interest on that $800 billion going to come from?

Obama hasn't brought many troops home. He just sent them east.

Teachers in California are the highest paid teachers in the entire country and they are ranked at the bottom (50th out of 50) when it comes to the quality of education.

So please tell me how that is Schwarzenegger's or Bush's fault? California is in the shithole it's in because of this ridiculous law that states that a 2/3 majority is needed to enact or pass a bill into law. That's why we have all of these special elections for these stupid propositions every year, then allow these equally stupid frivolous lawsuits to contest the results of the elections!

And that rule can't be changed. Why? Because it takes a 2/3 majority vote in order to change it!

The problems in Sacramento isn't because of a Democrat or Republican issue. It's a problem with the system itself.

The financial crisis could be eased tremendously by taxing the damn Indian casinos instead of giving them everything for free.

Jerry Buss put up half the money for the Lakers' parade at the Coliseum. I think he should have put up the whole thing. And either the Jacksons or AEG should put up all the money for this charade going on at Staples. LAPD has to sign off on massive overtime.

(AEG owns the Staples Center and is the company that promoted the 50 London concerts that was supposed to be only 10, and will be making BOATLOADS of money from DVD sales of the memorial service, and the rehearsal videos from the 23rd and 24th of June)

But I'm not blaming Obama for any of that. I blame him for taking a bad economic situation that would have correct itself on its own as it always has for the past 233 years and making it infinitely worse by throwing good money after bad.

Don't fall for this notion that the private sector is the root of all economic evil. You work in the private sector, I work in the private sector. Wall Street screwed over the little guy? Obama also screwed over the little guy who invested in those companies when the government took over and shafted the little guy. One lady who had invested over $70,000 in GM bonds was left with zero. Wall Street didn't screw her over.

She got screwed over by 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Mismanagement is what we have now with a stimulus package where no one knows where the money has gone, where it is going, where it is coming from and how will it be paid back. Mismanagement is talk of yet another stimulus package in order to stimulate the first stimulus package.

This is how socialism begins. This is how Hugo Chavez got started with his agenda. It's OK if you disagree. This isn't about Republican chest-beating. This is about the truth.

When this fails, and it will fail......miserably, you won't be able to pin it on Bush or the Republicans or anyone else. Except Obama.

Kourosh

The whole country is indeed losing under Obama, and it is not a bogus remark in the least. The only thing that is bogus is his presidency.

I know you won't agree, but bigger government is not the answer. Bigger government has been the agenda of the Democratic Party for years, in order to create a fully government-dependent society.

I must ask, why do you seem to be against profit? I don't imagine that you work for free. And if you were to ask for a raise, or negotiate a salary or compensation plan at a new job, what constitutes "greed"? The Democrats have been very successful of late in convincing the public that profit and personal success are inherently evil, and that public service absolves you of the "sin of success".

Why are you falling for such a preposterous crock of shit?

I don't want government health care forced upon me. Do you understand the ramifications of having that forced upon us? That sets the unwanted precedent for government forcing anything else they desire upon us. You may like health care, but what if was something you don't like?

More often than not, that raggedy ass bum looking for spare change wants it to get drunk or high. I'm not in the habit of enabling such abherrent behavior. Try giving the bum some actual food or unwanted clothes and see their reaction. Offer them an actual job where they can earn the money......cleaning out your garage, moving some old furniture,...and tell me how that goes.

The private sector IS the US economy. Look at the major companies of the United States. Look at the so-called "blue-chip companies". These are all private sector companies.

Look at what happens when the government gets involved. They now have majority ownership of General Motors and Chrysler, along with the UAW. Both companies......WORTHLESS. What happened to the private investors and shareholders? The government told them basically to eat shit. Their portfolios were wiped out without any recourse for remedy.

THAT is Obama's government.

This country was actually founded on the principle that the greater the power and scope of the government, the greater the tyranny. The right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness can only come from a society where government is limited in its scope. This is why they broke away from the British.

How can this or any other government provide opportunities for a better life? Do you think that they are just going to do this out of sheer benevolence? Come on, man, you have got to be kidding! Didn't you see that the banks and the states who received bailout money have been paying it off any way they can or refusing it altogether? And why is that? Because when the government does such a "favor" for you, they own you. 

Is that the freedom, justice and happiness you're talking about?

The war in Afghanistan is Obama's, but not because of any "nasty stain" Bush may have left. It is Obama's because it is he who has committed more young men and women into combat against these Taliban rats and cockroaches, and like Bush, who had no exit strategy when he went into Iraq, Obama has no exit strategy for Afghanistan.

Yes, I openly discredit the person who you say is trying to bring us out of this mess. Because you don't get out of one mess by creating another mess that's even bigger. His single biggest quality is his "eloquent style".

Eloquent style? The truth is he is a smooth talking bullshit artist.

Kaveh

My esteemed but misguided peer!  You are reveling in self-righteousness of the worst kind!  You act like just because Bush is out of the picture that his mistakes should just go "poof" and vanish in the wind.  WE ARE DEALING with his fuckups every single day!!!  You think it's going to take 6 months or 1 year to clean up the ungodly mess he left?  No one thinks the stimulus package was the perfect solution.  But something had to be done. 

Your attitude is just dump the mess in Obama's lap and then walk away and start blaming him for everything wrong in the world today.  Please.  Spare me the republican bullcrap.  Bush got us into a war that we had no business being in.  Obama has brought our troops home.  All Bush brought back was body bags.  Don't you dare tell me "bush is out of the picture now".  Bullcrap.  His hand is in every single fuckup this country is going through and will be for a LONG LONG TIME.

You want to act like the mess in California is his fault.  Don't bother wasting your breath on that one.  Try telling that to the teachers who can barely survive while the fearless republican leader has bankrupted the state into a shit hole.  Try telling people it's Obama's fault when the city leaders put on a parade for some basketball players instead of keeping their jobs.  Oh yeah, I know some of the high rollers put up some cash.  Are they going to pay for the security surrounding Michael Jackson's funeral?  No, I don't think so. I'M going to be paying that hefty little bill.  And I resent it.  Big Time.  That's called MISMANAGEMENT Kaveh and it ain't Obama's fault. 

Now.  I'm going to say something that will really ruffle your feathers and probably be taken out of context.

The BS I'm referring to is his entire agenda, which is to undermine everything this country was founded upon and turn it into a complete socialist state, with the government either owning or controlling everything. He is emulating Hugo Chavez. The private sector is screwed as long as he's in charge.

Everything this country was founded on?  What on earth are you talking about?  The "private sector" as you call it has RAPED THIS COUNTRY into bankruptcy.  The "private sector" as you call it hasn't done a very good job of controlling our economy, has it?  Do you think it has?  I sure don't.  The "private sector" greed on Wall Street has screwed the little guy into the street without a roof over his head.  But the CEO's have walked away with BILLIONS of our money.  As a BONUS for what?  Doing a good job?

Spare me the republican chest beating and hair pulling.  It's a facade and everyone knows it.  A facade for screwing the PEOPLE.

McCain can shove it

only a few weeks ago he was calling for bombing Iran... we dont want crocodile tears from McCain or any iranian supporter of mccain.

Senator McCain

Could eat shit and die. Who gives a damn if he gives his solidarity with the Iranian people?
Tell him to go to hell old fart.

President Obama got it right. Conservatives and fanatic Christians are as bad as the all the horrible rulers.

Craig, I'm not in my element here so I won't be staying but

I had to comment on one thing:

I'm absolutely amazed at how "MARG BAR DICTATOR" some of the people are, who have always seemed to me to be very supportive of the IRI in the past. I'm the only one who noticed? lol.

You don't understand. That's the whole point. Those people came out because they never  really were supportive of the IRI.  The vast majority believed in its reform not for love of AN Islamic Republic and far less  THIS Regime, but as the only viable option to war-foreign invasion and/or civil war. A large part of the reason they weren't vocal about human rights issues was because they were afraid that if they were it would provide fuel to justify a foreign attack (speaking of bomb bomb bomb Iran).

Most of those people supported and many actually campaigned for Obama, who as a liberal is further to the 'right than most of them, who are on the 'Left' (in Europe he'd be considered a Centrist so you can see how flexible these people's political orientation is). At that point the geopolitical climate shifted enough for then to relax a bit with the Bush threat gone and to be more vocal about human rights and so forth. And then came the Green movement..and that was their dream...evolution toward securalism...

They supported Marg bar diktatur because that's how they always felt (maybe without the marg) but were afraid to say it too loud for pragmatic reasons which were ultimately humanitarian. I never approved of it and I always told them so. I always felt they should've been as vocal about the internal human right s violations as about the 'neo-colonialist' threat but I also understood why they did it.

The point you're missing is that it's PRECISELY the Green Movement and up to the 'marg bar diktatur' that gave them the great hope that the evolutionary process could and would work...until the violence got so out of hand, people truly hoped there'd be some kind of deal at least within the real echelons of power where for example the office of Supreme Leader would become elected, as has been bandied about as part of Rafsaanjani's bargaining process.

When they came out green, they revealed their 'true colors' because that's what they'd always been hoping for. It was very painful for these people to finally feel their dream could be realized and then have it shattered this way with first the stolen election (most of them weren't as naive as one person here on this thread, they NEVER AT HEART SUPPORTED THE REGIME-but they didn't think Khamenei'd go THAT far...)--and more shattered when the demonstrations got too violent, because of course as pacifists their hands were tied. They DID support 'marg bar diktator' but not the bloodshed..

Now you may call that hypocritical if you like, that they would stay silent about all the Delaras and Zarah Kazemis and Omidreza's, all the spilled blood, and then be unwilling to go further with bloodshed in an internal uprising but well..

show me a single human being who isn't hypocritical to greater or lesser degree.

In general the apparently paradoxical stance of which you speak was very well-noticed by most people here, and perhaps most of all by themselves.  So don't accuse the 'apologist turned green turned marg bar' of any greater hypocrisy than that which is human just because their ideology and tactics are so different from yours. Do not generalize please a whole group of people as being any more hypocritcal as you or I or most people. Extreme hypocrisy is an individual tra it that knows no particular creed nor ideology nor agendy.

Why, right here you have three sterling examples, paradigmatic in fact, of hypocrisy that will come one from the left side of the mouth, one from the right side, and one from both.

And that's why I can't stay here Craig. Because extreme hypocrisy is a) pointless to debate with and b) usually comes with cruelty as part of the mix. But I thought your point really should be addressed. It's crucially important. Please contact me at rjgoldbird@aol.com if you wish to discuss it further, or let me know if you'd like me to blog on it on my own and we can take this crucial matter elsewhere.

Just be careful Craig not to privilege hypocrites just because their ideaologies may be more similar to yours-that's human nature too, but it makes oneself into a greater hypocrite.

The "h" word is an equal opportunity idealogue.*

You take care  now,

Socialist pacifist eco-Green me

*PS  Hypocritical idealogues work through manipulation of language, the most crucial of which begins with titles (and SUPERTITLES). I've had the exact same conversation with two people here..now gloryoski..title number 3...what a surprise.

reb - آخ گفتی!

ولی مگه این فرح خانوم گوش به این حرفا داره!  نماینده مجلس (پزشکیان) رو که بنده خدا با شجاعت جلوی این اوباش کودتایی ایستاده بود و از بی قانونی و نا مشروعیت اونها می گفت گرفته بود به باد بد و بیراه که چرا توی سخنرانی اش از قرآن آیه آورده و چرا به مقام معظم رهبری درود فرستاده! یعنی با شجاعت نگفته ما همه سکولار و آمریکایی هستیم  و گور بابای ولی فقیه!!! و یعنی چرا مثل زمان آریا مهر که آزادی بیان بود رک و راست از دیکتاتور انتقاد نکرده که چوب توی ماتحتش بکن و ما اینجا با شهامت تمام با جوهر خونین رنگ و با فونت های زیبا بنویسیم "ان قلاب ان قلاب"!!!  ولی به مک کین جون که می رسه قند تو دلش آب می شه!  انشاالله که به پای هم پیر شن و  مک کین جون برای  فرح خانوم از داستانهای ویتنامش تعریف کنه و کوک بشن با هم!!  آمین

IRI and its leftist supporters represent DARKNESS!

First of all, with respect to McCain's comment about bombing "Iran," it was directed at the nuclear facilites and NOT the Iranian people! Of course, some would clearly be killed, but hopefully they would be the IRI goons guarding the nuclear facilities!

Jaleho, frankly you're a parasite on the Iranian people! You lie with such ease! McCain NEVER used his father's connections to get out of his prison in Vietnam, QUITE THE CONTRARY!

He, in point of fact, made it clear to his captors that either they free every single American prisoner in his jailhouse or else he would not use his connections to leave early -- and he didn't for five long years, under continuous torture I might add!

You people mocking this man's integrity and service to his country (regardless of his politics) are disgusting jackals with no morals whatsoever, including Irandokht, whose comments are bordering on intentional duplicity, if not insanity.

Indeed, I hope all of you Iranians who voted for Obama see him today for what he is -- the second coming of Jimmy Carter! And probably worse! This president, who should know all too well about the 1964 civil rights movement in America, took 10 long days to "condemn" the heinous violence perpetrated against the people of Iran who were only seeking what is their god-given right, while it takes him just a mere 3 HOURS to interfere in the recent coup in Hondurous, which was sanctioned by their Supreme Court!

I guess Obama, the leftist fiend that he is (just like Carter) wants his buddy Hugo Chavez's comrad back in power really bad! What a joke on the Iranian people who've been gettting blugeoned to death in Iran and what a cruel joke to those silly Iranians who voted for Obama!

The greatest indictment on this abjectly inept president is that he NEVER used the word "freedom" to describe the Iranian people's post-election struggle against the IRI.

Obama's words were so categorically muted, if not whimpy -- his silence spoke volumes to the mullahs, giving them the green light to crack down! Later, he even gave the mullahs a helpful message, reminding them that "the whole world is watching," after which the mullahs summarily expelled all international journalists and cracked down even harder.

Of course to the objective eye, it's rather obvious that Obama doesn't want the Iranian people to be free. That's because Obama wants the mullahs to stay in power so that one sunny day on the White House lawn he can triumphantly declare to the world: "It was me, Barack Hussein Obama! I was the only president savvy and smart enough to successfully negotiate with the cagey mullahs and bring Iran back to the fold, back to our warm American embrace."

This is, without a doubt, much to do about Obama! I guess when the IRI lackys were saying "Uba-mast," they clearly knew what they were talking about!

Kaveh The whole country

Kaveh

The whole country is losing under obama? What a totally bogus remark. What about when the WHOLE country was virtuallly getting F... under Mr. Tush, i mean Bush? What about all the profit hungry and greedy bastards who were given carte blanche to ride wild and as they pleased, to throw the country in the Mostarah that we are in right now? They were basically given the permission to run wild with their ambitious and progressive and growth-oriented ideas and the result is the Total Shit that you see before you.

Yes. The war of afghanistan is all obama's, because it is like a nasty stain that he is basically stuck with. The war that brother bush inflicted brought to existance and he now is being so conveniently excused for it, Since he is no longer in the picture!  Could you not come up with anything easier than that?

He should FORCE his health care system, since under that ideal system, that is of course still in place, more than 1/3 of the nation lacked health care. Why is it so hard for you to accept, that even though that plain, raggedy-ass bum who lives under the bridge near your house, or pops up in front of your car every morning asking for spare change, As lazy as he may be and as much as he may not posses your buisness and academic intellect and acumen to get himself a job or start a fortune 500 firm, he still deserves some decent health care.

This country is founded up on Freedom , Justice and pursuit of happiness for everyone. As in EVERYONE. Not just those who are terrified that at any minute we may be falling into the hands of Some socialists.

 Are there other founding principles in your book? Why is it that you are so afraid to see that there is a government that is providing opportunities to a better life for others, the same ones that you are enjoying in your life? The private sector is not scrwed, It is being regulated, the regulation that was looooong over due. It is about time. And this country is not going into a total socialstic mode. and Obama is not Chavez. don't lose sleep over it. IF the private sector is nothing but a F...up given the chance, and as heavily as it maybe involved in stimulating the economy, When there is a need for it , It must be desciplined and regulated.

You so openly discredit the person who has tried since day one, to do his best to at least start bringing us out of this mess, By His much more eloquent style of leadership that trumps that of bush's, How he tries to maintain the balance between his policies and those of his competitors and how wide open he is to listen and adopt new and better ideas, Yet you give bush a pass simply by him not being in the picture!! Or at least that what you seem to be implying.

Same old idiot!

Aint he the smae Jack A$$ who sang "bomb bomb bomb eyeran"? He had no problem killing these folks with napalms, now he is against violance!

He should shut up. Obama is a class act and is doing the right thing. He sound smuch more sincere than neo cons and their zionist plas.

Whent the dumb a$$ bush paid 700 B to the bankers

None of the dumb republicans supports had any thing to say why?  Why are we bank roling their f**K ups, and paying these filty rich CEOs.  But when the money is going towards avarage Joe, then they blow a gasket.

Get a life!

And as for the McCain and militry goes... we all know that the US miltary has become for the most like a "mozdoor"  paid killers.  Just look what they have done in Iraq and most other places in the world

Mehrdad

Jaleho

...since American public...

I hardly think you are qualified to comment on the American public. I'm not even sure you are qualified to comment on the Iranian public, but at least some of the people here on this website will claim that you are. Based on the comments I've seen you make here, I doubt you could find more than a handful of Americans - in the whole country - who subsribe to the views you attribute to them. 

Anyone is welcome to support Iranian people

I don't care what political agenda they have, as long as, they support Iranian movement and not recognized illegitimate governor they considered friend.

PLEASE STOP THE CHILDISH COMMENT, JUST BECAUSE ONE DOES NOT LIKE SOMEONE POLITICAL PARTY DOES NOT MEAN IF THEY WANT TO LEND HAND WE SLAP THE HAND.

I just wish that Obama's administration will show the same level of support to Iranians as they are doing to Honduras communist ousted leader!!!

Obama does not want to meddle in Iranian affairs but is meddling in Honduras...I hope Obama will have change of heart.

BTW PC, McCain's only claim to fame

is that he was so dumb that despite all of the American military advantage in Vietnam, he managed to get imprisoned by Vietnamese! Then, he had to use his daddy's connection and some nice Vietnamese good will to get out.

This idiot wasn't even a good pilot like Pappa Bush for example. Famous prisoner of war, haha!

OoooH, I forgot he got a little fame in Keating Five scandal too. Quite an accomplished life indeed. I guess the few bullets that you have wasted in earning America a bad name in the world, in your own military experience, might have been more of a success than this feller.

BTW, get it into your skull pleae, Bush invaded Iraq instead of Iran, not by any choice. He did so, because Iraq was already half dead by iran-Iraq war, and because US had to undo all the aid that it had given Saddam Hussein in that war by removing him later. So, US did not, can not, and will not dare attack Iran. Hell, it even couldn't manage to do the half-dead Iraq correctly, and now needs Iran's help to fix the job for them. 

Programmer craig, chill a bit!

you said: You think Obama's election was a referendum on Ahmadinejad? How arrogant could you possible be?"

Not really, but his sane foreign policy for sure had a lot to do with it since American public were sick of Bush's insane foreign policy. For example in Iraq, if you remember, over 3000 Americans died in his misadventure in Iraq, and an unfortunate 25,000+ got maimed and had to come back to homeless shelters in the US. American people did not want to repeat that experience with 10 times the damage by an asinine McCain policy towards Iran. They had learned their lesson.

So, I am not really arrogant to think that Obama's election was a referendum on Ahmadinejad; hell, 75% of dumb Americans don't even know who Ahmadinejad is, see: 

//www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=231547&title=jason-jones-behind-the-veil

Fish

If I pay $800 BILLION dollars for anything.....I want results.

The scam was sold to the public as a way to generate immediate jobs. It was bullshit through and through. NONE of these assholes in Congress read the package before voting. Why? Because they had 40 minutes to review 300 odd pages of detailed text.

Obama has singlehandledly screwed over the US auto industry, giving it to the UAW as a reward for decades of making the US unable to compete with the Japanese. We haven't even BEGUN to see the real effects of that ...YET.

I'm not demonizing Obama or not bringing us out overnight. I'm demonizing him for digging us deeper. You remember the expression if you dig deep enough you'll hit China?

Obama dug so deep.....we're now OWNED by China.

Thank you Mr. McCain!

Thank you for your support for Iranian people.
America needs more of your kind, people with principles, backbone, and testicular fortitude.

Very soon when they join the unemployment lines, these barking seals who are taking cheap shots at you will discover the mistakes they made when they voted for the other guy. Wait the second, let's find out exactly how many of these barking seals actually work and pay taxes!?

Dear JJ, please add a new item to the list of documents you should require from your contributors before they are allowed to post here, the list should at least include the following:

1) US Passport,
2) High school transcript,
3) Resume,
4) Letter of employment.

Dear Mr. McCain,

It was an honor to have voted for you in 2008!

God bless you!
God bless America!
God bless Iran and Iranian people!
God damn Islamic Republic Regime, and its supporters!
And yes, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb,... the Islamic Republic Regime!

yes Kaveh

Bush IS out of the picture.  It's been 6 months.  But you're expecting that Obama is going to reverse every fucked up decision Bush made in the last 8 years?  Be fair.  Did you expect that we were going to come out of this recession in 6 months?  I sure as hell didn't.  Yes I wish it was coming faster and yes I'm disappointed that unemployment is still going up. But there isn't a chance in hell of convincing me that Obama is to blame for it.  No, the stimulus hasn't provided miracles.  It wasn't intented to.  Time will tell.  Let's see what happens in the long run.  You're for a party that drug us down into this hell hole yet you're going to demonize Obama for not bringing us out overnight. 

You want to call it a lack of humor when McClueless made his bomb bomb iran comment?  Was the smoking/cigaratte comment a joke too?  Sure... right.  If Obama had made those comments, you'd be calling for a lynching. 

Screw what he's saying about the "people of Iran".  He didn't give a crapola for them before and he doesn't now.  It's posturing and you know it.

As far as health care.  I need to review some comments my brother made.  As a doctor, a husband with a family and a son of an old man with heart problems, he's had a lot to say about the current health crisis.  I don't want to misspeak on his behalf.