ندا فدای چه شد؟

ندا فدای چه شد؟
by Farah Rusta
22-Jun-2009
 

راه آزادی؟ آزادی از چه؟ آزادی از که؟ آیا میر حسین موسوی که همین چندی پیش دانشجویان کرمانی را که بر علیه  نیروی بسییج شعار می‌‌دادند شماتت کرد و گفت:

"وقتی شما این شعارها را می دهید  به من بر می‌خورد ، من به بسیج علاقه‌
دارم، من به بسیجی اعتقاد دارم که وقتی صندوق رای را به او می‌سپارند او
مانند ناموسش از آن حفاظت کند
».

//www.77tir.com/news/index.php/tag/%D9%85%D9%...

جالب این جاست که ما مردم نگاه می‌‌کنیم ولی نمی بینیم. گوش می‌‌کنیم ولی‌ نمیشنویم. ندای نازنین به امید ایرانی آزاد و از منزل قدم بیرون گذاشت. شاید به میر حسین موسوی هم رای داده بود. ولی‌ گمان نمیکنم که هرگز می‌‌خواست به این سهولت و بی‌ رحمی جان شیرین را از دست دهد. برای آنها که نوحه خوانی برای ندا میکنند و هنوز هم معتقدند که موسوی مرحم آلام ایشان است بد نیست به یاد آورند که موسوی هجچگاه حمایت خودرا از بسیجی‌‌ها قطع نکرد و آنها را پاسداران واقعی‌ انقلاب خواند. همانانی که ندا و ندا هار ا از ما میگیرند.


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from: dailykos

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It is a prayer, a preparation.

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You Are Right On Farah Jan....

by M,Shirazi (not verified) on

Dear Farah, you are right on… it is not within the savage nature of this barbaric government to exit in a dignified manner.
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Anonymous Irani I hope you are wrong

by sbglobe on

about "I am afraid that their sacrifices will end up in further suppression". I think at this stage it is almost impossible to predict what will happen - only time will tell. But I sure can wish and hope for a better outcome than what you predict.


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Few points...

by Anonymous Irani (not verified) on

Imagine someone imprisoned in a cell with all doors close; once he notices a narrow opening through bars on a small window, he tries to squeeze himself out, probably in vain.

Mousavi is of the same cloth, but people who see their ship (aka, country) sinking are hanging to the only piece of floating wood that they can find; it may be a useless rotten wood, but a drowning person still reaches out for it.

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by hamsade ghadimi on

...at least, that's what i like to believe.

well said sbglobe. i'd like to echo your sentiments.

to david and rusta:

could it be possible that both of you may be right? at least partially? it may be true in a country that organized opposition is banned, those who were fed-up just needed a symbol, a focal point, to bring the people out in masses. even if that symbol was a false prophet. look, it's happened in iran before. although, there are many differences between khomeini and mousavi. for one, khomeini had a grass-root following and his organization made sure that he be visible throughout the 1979 uprising. mousavi came with a lot of baggage, made many misstatements in this short period of time as rusta points out one of them in this blog, and has failed to sustain this uprising. he has threatened to call for strikes if he is arrested. david, i know you question that threat as well.

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فاطی من فقط

Farah Rusta


فاطی

من فقط سوال کردم ، داوود خان پیش بینیش رو کرده بود فتواش هم صادر کرده خودشم تو همین کالیفرنی تشریف داره. حالا برو دختر دهنتو آب بکش.

 

FR


Farah Rusta

David ET: Please don't make me laugh - this is not funny

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I take it that your knowledge of chemistry may not be something to shout about but you should be, I hope, able to read English. Did you read a couple of sentences into the definition of catalyst. Here is what it says:

Unlike other reagents that participate in the chemical reaction, a catalyst is not consumed by the reaction itself.

You don't need to be chemist to know the meaning of the above sentence. A catalyst does not react with the reagents (the compounds taking part in the reaction). Your choice of catalyst (God help me remain solemn) is part and parcel of the compounds, if not the root compound, taking part in this reaction.

 

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You and thousands like you will survive this crackdown and if the regime eventually collapses, after a bloody confrontation with the people, you will be the first to claim victory.

 

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وای به وقتی که فاتی روستا امر جهادم دهد

Fatidoust (not verified)


بابا روستا فتوای جهاد داده. ایشان می گوید اسلحه دست بگیریم همگی و اینها را همه شان را بکشیم تا همه راحت شویم و آزاد شویم.

این هم سند این ادعا:

//iranian.com/main/blog/farah-rusta-3

خوب بد حرفی هم نمی زند. فقط سوال اینجاست که چرا خودش دست بکار نمی شود؟ این گوی و این میدان. از هر آژانسی می شود بلیط ایران خرید و رفت. کسی که شعار می دهد اول باید خودش عمل کند نه اینکه یک عده جوان بی گناه را به کشتن بده و خودش راحت در آمریکا بنشیند و از تلویزیون تماشا کند و پاپ کورن بخورد و وبلاگ بنویسد و دستور جهاد دهد تا بقیه جهاد کنند.


David ET

To Farah Rusta

by David ET on

I have tried to explain to you ever since I called for voting and even before the 4 candidates were approved but you just don't seem to get it that Mousavi and alike are/were not and have never been the ultimate goals but the only "available tools" to take us to the goal within the limits that we had and were provided.

May be if you read this , you may understand me better. The word is :

Catalyst: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalysis

The ingerdiants were there and once the catalysts were applied the results depsite all expectations actually created an erruption which showed even before the election day in form of green mass movement.

The funcations of history, society  and politics in fact follow the same scientific rules that apply to rest of nature!

I ask you to reconsider your positions with what you have seen and realize those of us who have always wanted secular republic were not voting for Mousavi but for means to change. Our ideals and gaols continue to remain the same even if at this stage we still support Mousavi since he is still more progressive than the regime ...until he runs out of steam and he will sooner or later and as long as he does stay WITHIN THE PATH , and with the position that he has , he should be supported.

To reach 10 you must count from 1 or you will always stay there. That is the 30 year error of some of the so called opposition .

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It is about respecting people willingness.

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Musavi Kiyeh?!! What are you talking about? The fight is for freedom and HAS NEVER BEEN FOR HIM. It is a fight to get rid of injustice and Geda Ali as the epitomy of injustice.  Get with the program my lady.  Musavi was just an excuse to detonate the anbaeh Baroot. Despite of his position, nobdy seriously considers him as the leader of this movement. People of Iran are way smarter than that. You need to inform yourself abit more and try to catch up. Otherwise, this wave will pass you like it did Khatami and Musavi.