Capt Ayhab

Ms. Parsi

Perfectly said dear Ms. Parsi, they are indeed  driven by personal agenda instead of just thinking about the catastrophic consequence of their ideology.

Take a look at this clip please and see what Dr. Shirin Ebadi say about the issue.

Best regards

-YT 

captain

thanks to you and the contributors for a sane blog in the midst of the current madness going on on IC. i was going to write a blog about it, but better to summarize it here:

it seems that a large number of contributors are more interested in their own personal fantasies about iran rather than what is actually happening, and with no regard for the consequences. people are just sloganeering, parrot fashion, like those nauseating friday prayer chants of iri. i don't get the point of such emotional outbursts devoid of even a shadow of reality. many expat iranians have turned into mouthpieces for aipac. it seems like that here at least. long way away and fading through the years, it seems that we have lost touch with iran's reality. some even to the extent of wishing for war and sanctions. turning iran into a video game.

Peace

VPOK:

I whole heartedly agree that we all need to unite our voices and confront military attack against Iran and Iranians. Our opposition to military or sanction against Iran should not be taken as our approval of the regime in Tehran either.

I strongly believe any external force against Iran will result only in uniting Iranians thus extending the life of IRI and also the change that will be brought to Iran by external forces (West in this case) will never be really good for Iran and Iranians. As you cited, the event of 1953 and other examples around the world has clearly shown this very well.

Mehrdad

Bavafa

you are welcome. This has always been my position. Sometimes people mistake my warnings of Western intentions as approval of them. That is not true. I make my warnings to prevent a war not to encourage it.

In fact if it was not for the West we most likely would have had a Secular Democracy since the days of Dr. Mossadegh. I also have no illusions about the West intentions. That is why I think we need to be prepared for any eventuality. 

We need to put aside our differences and focus on what is good for Iran. Most of us agree that a war is bad for Iran. So we need to unite our voices in opposing it. We can then argue about details.

VPK

Neoconservative approach doesn't work with Iran;or anywhere else

Timothyfloyd actually tried to use Rigi against me. He said that his capture and interrogation should make me feel bad, and maybe worse than the rendition of us darkies from the Euro to asian continents!

I wonder if Timothy feels sorry for Tim McVeigh? Especially if McVeigh's bombing had killed his friends or family?  

This is the kind of BS we are dealing with. That same guy would probably cheer when Rigi was blown up by William Kristol's Iranian wet dream.

The middle east is just a playground for some people. 

Mr. Q.

Thank you ever s much for well thought and well reasoned[as usual] comment.

I particularly commend the analogy you used that of "Carrots and Stick" and "the dogs". Indeed it is utter shame that we allow, as a proud nation with out rich and powerful history, literature, science and tradition to be talked down as though we are bunch animal[due respect to ALL] that have to be either rewarded by some goodies or be punished if we did not preform want we are told perfectly.

-YT 

P/S Thanks for your point on our own history of war with Iraq and imposed sanctions which ended in death of millions.

These are positive blogs

That brings important issues, which most of us need to think and comprehend their importance. It's great to see that we are gradually realizing that our political fights are twofold. Aware societies have released their leashes and have gained their true independence. Then only true freedom is possible.

Thanks for the blog.

VPOK: I welcome your comment here

It is probably the clearest I have heard so far vis-a-vis Iran and the West and/or how we/you support change in Iran.

Thanks

Mehrdad

Banks

Actually from the recent records of the banks I think Iran is far better off without them :-).

dear all

My sincere thanks to all you gentlemen and gentle ladies for taking time reading and supporting this humble piece which comes from my soul.

In due time today I shall respond to everyone who so graciously  supported the idea.

Mean while allow me to catch my class and spoil few young minds. ;-)

Regards

-YT 

Opposition

Just for the record: I am opposed to ANY military attack on my home Iran. We shall sort thing out in our way and do not need any more deaths imposed on us. In time Iran will become a Secular Democracy. Not due to foreign attacks but due to Iranian internal reform. So the West may shove it and leave our nation in peace.

VPK

Q

Totally agree with what you wrote. I can see why Iran is feared by Israel and the West. Iran's recent history has no parallel. Iran was forced to go to one of the worst wars in 20th century after WWII, was severely sanctioned, was politically isolated, economically weakened by controlling oil prices and so on, and yet Iran flourished with an unbelievable resilience. Today, Iran is surrounded by NATO and US forces and is under constant military threat and yet Iran continues its independent path. That is true power!!!!

Chashme Hasood Kor Besheh!

Q, they called it "carrots and sticks"

They called it "carrots and sticks" first refering to how one tames donkeys -- but Iran told them what to do with their carrots and sticks and where to shove them. Now that phrase is rarely used.

The same will happen to the term "air tight sanctions" suggested by people with air tight brain cells.

Problem with sanctions: Iranians are not DOGS!

The problem with sanctions theory is that those who believe in it think Iranians are dogs.

You punish a dog by not feeding him, or depriving him of something it wants to do until it complies with the wishes of the master: obedience training.

Likewise, the West is angry that Iranians have not risen up and destroyed their own government, replacing it with a western-friendly regime with minimal costs to the west. They haven't done this yet, despite the wishes of the Western media!

They say: "Why?, Why do they hazitate to carry out our wishes? Maybe they need some training."

The attitude (third-world brownies = dogs) was invented in Western colonialism but perfected by the Israelis.

This is exactly why our Israeli-owned friends on this site casually advocate genocidal sanctions like "abeh khordan". This is exactly how Israel deals with Palestinians: collective punishment, making life hard, and taking away their dignity just so they know their place.

The kicker is, it hasn't worked for 60 years and it's not going to work in the long run. But a racist mind is often too rigid to change.

By the way, Capt, you forgot the most apt analogy of all: Iran during the 80's. Our own country went through severe and military-enforced sanctions, including targeting of oil exports and gas imports. Even the staunchest Likudnik can only dream of achieving the kind of economic warfare that Iran suffered in the early 80's.

That obviously didn't work, what chance does another round of UN sanctions have?

Good writing as always.

Problem with sanctions: Iranians are not DOGS!

The problem with sanctions theory is that those who believe in it think Iranians are dogs.

You punish a dog by not feeding him, or depriving him of something it wants to do until it complies with the wishes of the master: obedience training.

Likewise, the West is angry that Iranians have not risen up and destroyed their own government, replacing it with a western-friendly regime with minimal costs to the west. They haven't done this yet, despite the wishes of the Western media!

They say: "Why?, Why do they hazitate to carry out our wishes? Maybe they need some training."

The attitude (third-world brownies = dogs) was invented in Western colonialism but perfected by the Israelis.

This is exactly why our Israeli-owned friends on this site casually advocate genocidal sanctions like "abeh khordan". This is exactly how Israel deals with Palestinians: collective punishment, making life hard, and taking away their dignity just so they know their place.

The kicker is, it hasn't worked for 60 years and it's not going to work in the long run. But a racist mind is often too rigid to change.

By the way, Capt, you forgot the most apt analogy of all: Iran during the 80's. Our own country went through severe and military-enforced sanctions, including targeting of oil exports and gas imports. Even the staunchest Likudnik can only dream of achieving the kind of economic warfare that Iran suffered in the early 80's.

That obviously didn't work, what chance does another round of UN sanctions have?

Good writing as always.

Captain

I also call these "anti Iran" Individuals as "self proclaimed patriots" !

They would commit anything for their despicable ends. Be it, cheering terrorists, attacking Iran, supporting sanctions, manufacture lies and so on, are all fair game to these low lives!!!

Interesting, they all choose passionate Iranian Avatar names. But one thing is for certain, THEY ARE NOT IRANIANS!

FYI

//haifanbahaiagendairan.blogspot.com/

David ET : I agree with your comment

Though unfortunately we have a few on these individuals on this very web site. One of them has a couple of blogs a day spewing the same BS over and over again.

Mehrdad

Your history is backward

Britain blockaded Germany, not the other way around. The German navy tried cut off British shipping, but the most they could do with their U-boats was harrass the occasional convoy. They also put considerable effort into their missile program. It is funny how Iran's military doctrine is so similar to Nazi Germany.

Joke is on us. Karl Rove is on yahoo.com

Karl Rove admits in his new book that it was damaging to the administration, but the war was still right. 

WHAT THE HELL?! WHAT?! Does this not prove what we've been saying all along? It's never about the "nuculars." What a pathetic bunch of leaders running this country. Truly embarrassing. Imagine that your son or daughter dies there in war. Husband or wife. And this bald a-hole is in charge of the decision. Americans are nuts. Iranians are too, but this is just too much for America. Is it really this stupid, this society?

I hear you Captain,

and your voice represents the voice of the majority, inside and outside Iran.

One must be sick to wish

any war or bloodshed on Iran and Iranians and for any reason. Unfortunately some extremist elements with such wishes exist in both camps of IR and its opponents; each for own reasons.

visit: www.iransecular.org

شراب سرخ

شراب سرخ

فدای قلمت و قدمت سالار

-YT 

قدمتان مبارک

به به ... بهار زود رسید و سرای غم الود ما را شاد کرد... خوش حالیم که حضرت علی‌ را دوباره رویت می‌کنیم.قدمتان مبارک.

screw Google Chrome

I have edited this little piece 4 times already thanks to google chrome.

Who is the geek responsible for such a crap?

AHHHHHHHHH 

-YT 

Eh. What's a soul?

We need the banks to get involved in Iran. For too long, Iranian resources and people have stood without being exploited by these interests. Talk about untapped resources! Time is ripe baby! ripe!