Pretext To WAR

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Pretext To WAR
by capt_ayhab
18-Mar-2010
 

For a while now, ever since President G W Bush, triumphantly landed on USS Abraham Lincoln, in all his masalan ever so Commander In Chief-ish attire [Cheapish more like it] on May 1st lord,s year of 2001 and gave the ever so famous speech in front of an ever so famous banner that said [MISSION ACCOMPLISHED], US of A has been looking for yet another invasion to make.

It might sound rather easy for a supper power [ghardan kolofteh mahale] to find a little kid to pick on and take his lunch money from him. But who is the next lucky victim? The kid with glasses [The Arabs]? Not exactly the bully has them bagged literally.
Who else is in the school hallways [region]?

How about the EYRANIANS?

We have bones to pick with them Eyranians. How about that hostage crisis to begin with. Not that it is a pretty episode in foreign relation of any country to invade sanctity of other countries protected embassy, but let see if we as the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED kind of guy that we are can make that a pretext?

A bit weak since WE as President Reagan sent couple of silver coated Colt 45’s to them boys Rafsanjani and ilk back then to make a deal so them boys in turbans could  just hold on to our hostages bit longer till we put away the Peanut Boy out of the White House. Not to mention them Iran-Contra Afaires thingy and that highly decorated Marines Colonel who is Fox news commentator now.

So we needs other stuff to be able to look like freedom fighter, democracy builders and liberty huger in the eyes of countries that we already bought and sold long ago, namely Europe. We want them boys in them socialist none god fearing European countries to help us with FEW[2 or 3 would do] troops. Problem is though, those people  for some stupid! reason, value lives of their citizens, their soldiers and what nots. Such a stupid notion they adhere to. Of course except that Brown the Brit boy[we miss you Brownie]. But since we as  them Yankees, have got brave men and women coming out of ears, what the heck? Who needs them?

So what is that we, the FREE world need to have to justify bombing the living day light out of yet another country?

Wait……….. How about none-clear nuclear ambition? PERFECT!

Let’s get ‘em on that. Screw the fact that those Eyranian Mullas rape and murder their own YOUTH who are merely asking for a smidgen of freedom to be heard and to be acknowledged. We don’t care about our own bravest and youngest who die in deserts of Iraq and Afghanistan, the most illegal war in the history of humanity, why should we care about them dark haired 16, 17 and 18 year old beautiful young boys and girls who are being killed, raped, imprisoned and executed by dozens upon dozens on the streets and in the prisons of Iran???.

We only want Israel to be safe……….. FUCK the rest of the world, FUCK even our own youth and nation.

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As for Israel I repeat what United Nations anounced: "Zionism is racism", racism brings about Apartheid and Apartheid is a criminal regime.

Crimes of Apartheid as defined by the International Criminal Court:

A. Denial to a member or members of a racial group or groups of  the right to life and liberty of a person.

I. By murder of members of a racial group or groups.

II. By the infliction upon the members of a racial group or groups of serious bodily or mental harm, by the infringement of their freedom or dignity, or by subjecting them to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

III. By arbitrary arrest and illegal imprisonment of the member of a racial group or groups.

B. Deliberate imposition on a racial group or groups of living conditions calculated to cause its or their physical destruction in whole or in part.

C. Any legislative measures and other measures calculated to prevent a racial group or groups from participation in the political, social, economic and cultural life of the country and deliberate creation of conditions preventing the full development of such a group or groups, in particular by denying to members of a racial group or groups basic human rights and freedom, including the right to work, the right to form recognized trade unions, the right to education, the right to leave and to return to their country, the right to nationality, the right to freedom of movement and residence, the right to freedom of opinion and expression, and the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association;

D. Any measures including legislative measures, designed to divide the population along racial lines by the creation of separate reserve and ghettos for the members of various racial groups or groups or members thereof; e. Exploitation of the labour of the members of a racial group or groups, in particular by submitting them to forced labour; f. Persecution of organizations and persons, by depriving them of fundamental rights and freedoms, because they oppose apartheid.

And it all rings true in case of Israeli regime, a system that destroys palestinians homes in order to build on their land, a racist regime that kills and imprisons the natives. Hopefully Americans are waking up to this injustice and stop supporting Israel blindly. 


capt_ayhab

Jolly me

by capt_ayhab on

No you could not and YOU did not. 11 years in Afghanistan and going on to 9 in Iraq.

What was it that you COULD? Couple of drone missions?? Is that all you have to show for, for an  aggregate 20 years of war and destruction?

You must be one of them Glenn Beck lovers and Hannity hungers, Ain't ya'?

-YT 


capt_ayhab

Mr. MRX1

by capt_ayhab on

[Sure Iran has the right to interfeer I suppos,e and it does as a matter
of fact!!]

Two answers to that:

1. NO...... No other country has the right to intervene on other nations internal affair.

2. If according to you they do have the right, so why is it that Israel griping about?

Two Edge Sword paradox they call it.

what is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

-YT 


capt_ayhab

P/S Mr. Vay Vay Vay Jan

by capt_ayhab on

There is a reply made to you in a different thread, you might want to check it out. I am certain you have some more FRUSTRATIONS to release.

Have fun Vay Vay jan va nourouzat pirooz.

-YT 


capt_ayhab

Mr. onlyIran

by capt_ayhab on

Either you have something substantive to say or you are just here to spam with less than desirable  one liner.

Tell me though, What part of [Do Not Starve or Kill Iranians] bothers you the most?

-YT 


Onlyiran

پتر پانٔ

Onlyiran


موضوع رو عوض نکنید.  شاه هم اشتباه کرد.  


Peter Pan

"خجالت هم خوب چیزیه"

Peter Pan


 

درست میگویید، ما هم میخواستیم چیزی شبیه اینرا به شاه بگوئیم تا از
فرستادن نیروی ارتش به منطقه " ظُفار" صرفنظر کند؛ اما اینترنت نداشتیم.


Onlyiran

وای، وای. وای

Onlyiran


کشتن خودشون رو سر فلسطین. الان منفجر میشند!!!! 


I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek

Mr X there was no issue because....

by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on

They had their gas pipeline on and running at full capacity. They can go to hell. Make them pay double and even triple what they are now. 

If a war happens, you and the rest of us will be paying quadruple gas prices in the USA. Screw the israelis. Their economy is actually doing well. Not hard to claim that when everyone is giving you money for nothing. 

I also don't care about the Arab Israeli conflict. It doesn't affect Iran until we become the same target. I don't like the idea of Iran becoming a target for Arabs. Israeli alliance has never been worth it for ANY nation, especially for the USA. 


MRX1

Capt for sure

by MRX1 on

Sure Iran has the right to interfeer I suppos,e and it does as a matter of fact!!!  are you denying interference  of Iranian regime in iraq, Afghnistan, gaza, southern lebonon and where ever else they can get their hands on? you denying their participation to help and blow up jewish center in Argentina (85 people died) what did the Argentian jews ever done to us? 

I don't care what issues Isreal and their neighbors have with one another. it's not my back yard and as matter fact at least a good   1000 miles far from us. 

Up untill 1979, Iran and Isreal lived in reletive harmoney.  we had no issues with them and they didn't have nay issues with us.  In fact history of Iranian people and jews are intertwined but let's put that a side. Then comes this filthy mullah and his disgusting regime which for thirty years, night and day, 7/24 want to declare war on Isreal and destory it, and instead of you taking the heat back to the regime in Iran you are saying to Isreal, hey hold on, don't do any thing, don't even plan or think of defending yourself! becuase Iran has not attacked any country for 200 years. All that sounds dandy,  but you can guaranty the lunetics in in power in Iran who don't respect life of Iranian people that they some how respect the life of people in Isreal?  Again if you were in their shoes you will do the same. Your statements reminds me of "nafasi ke az jayeh garm miad..."

 


I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek

Oh my gosh. You are Israelis DREAM. Even denying facts

by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on

When you cite a fact and are told "stop accusing." it's pretty much like talking to a wall. happy norooz MrX. I'm sorry they got you. So you have a slur for us "omati." We are bad. But to be in the Israeli camp is good! Noble! I hope some users wise up in 2010. Our families in Iran are bound for Ghetto-ization just so Israel can have his big gas pipe on again. How sad we Iranians are. 


Onlyiran

خجالت هم خوب چیزیهٔ

Onlyiran


بابا خودتون رو خفه کردید سر فلسطین.  می‌خوام بدونم اگر مردم ایران زجر میکیشیدیدند فلسطینیها هم اینقدر خودشون رو براشون جر میدادند؟  مگر همین فلسطینیها نبودند که زمان جنگ با عراق مسلسل گرفتند دستشون و به ایران حمله کردند؟  خجالت بکشید.  آخه آدم چقدر خارجی‌ پرست و وطن فروش؟  بابا من دوستهایه فلسطینی دارم که خانوادشون تو غزه هستند و به اندازهٔ شماها سینه برایه فلسطین چاک نمیدند.  اگه راست میگید بجای اینکه بشینید تو آمریکا برایه فلسطین هارت و پورت کنید بلند شید برید غزه بجنگید.  اگر مرد (یا زن) واقعی هستید برید با کسانی‌ که اینقدر برشون سینه چاک میکنید همدردی کنید.  کدوم یکی‌ از شما پهلوان پنبه‌ها تا حالا پاشو تو فلسطین گذشته؟  

خجالت بکشید و یک کم هم به فکر مردم کشسور خودتان باشید (اگر ایرانی‌ هستید).


MRX1

Hazrat shotor

by MRX1 on

How appropirate your name is!  Go hang out with omati crowd that you respresent, The nerve of you attacking Isreal and accusing it all sort of things when the most disgusting, brutal regime in the region by all account is the Iranian regime.

At least Isreal (Excuse me the occupied zionists)  have excuse that they are being attacked by arabs for forty years with the gaol of their ultimate destruction, what is the excuse of regime in Iran, who practices aparthied on 1/2 of polulation of the country (women) on a 7/24 basis? do we even need to talk about political prisoners, tortures, executions, sang sar, chopping hands and limbs, aghazadehs, basij, pasdar, stealing people's money the list goes on and on. Boro khoda roozito yek jayeh digeh bedeh, hopefully in Karbela!


Jolly Me

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

by Jolly Me on

 

Behold the equalizer

 

 

YES WE CAN!


Mola Nasredeen

X1, Israel is a racist non democratic Zionist regime

by Mola Nasredeen on

350 children as young as 12 years old are locked up in its prisons plus 15000 adults, being tortured and abused. On what planet do you live on? Even general Petraeus is accusing Israel of endangering American lives by its racist polices. United Nations proclaimed Zionism as a racist ideology, get your facts straight first before promoting Israel and Zionism here.


capt_ayhab

P/S MRX1

by capt_ayhab on

Kindly do not put words on my mouth. Show me any posting here that I refer to Israel as Zionists - even though they are by their own admission a Zionist nation?

Secondly physical location of the Herzliya conference is not of any interest to me nor to the article. What is import about the conference is context and the fact plans of military attacks were being made against my people. So please let us focus.

Besides you might want to justify the super disproportionate[many analyst agree to this] response of Israel to terrorist attacks on her people, I don't.

You might want to deny the fact that Israel has segregated the displaced people in an apartheid fashion, I do not. 

You might want to  recognize ONLY Israel as having right to their homeland and not Palestinians , I do not.

Israel is signatory to  peace accord whereby she  is to return to pre 1967 boarder which so far she has not upheld her side of bargain and she keeps on building housing in occupied land. 1600 units were announced this very last week and US was slapped on the face with it.

Ehud Barak, Israeli defense minister in an interview with Amanpoor made a remarks in regards to[ Without two state solution, Israel will be an apartheid nation].

 //www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1085878.html

 

 


capt_ayhab

MRX1

by capt_ayhab on

So according to your assessment, Israel and US or any other other country has the right to interfere in national security and internal affairs of Iran when it comes to her defensive arsenal?

Does Iran have the same right or is it one way street. Keep in mind that I am referring to Iran, the nation and not to current regime. Does Iran as a nation have the right to protect herself? And if no why?

One more question? 

US has been at war for 49 years since WWII. Israel been at war, which she has been the aggressor since her inception, 60 years to be exact.

//iranian.com/main/blog/fred/tighter-better-0#comment-277814

How many countries has Iran invaded lets say in past 200 years?

-YT 


MRX1

Well Captain

by MRX1 on

According the article you posted they had an open conferance in a hotel in Isreal (Excuse me zionist occupied land!) so nothing was hidden from any body, which shows you openness of Isreali society, but let's put that a side for now.

U.S and Isreal are alies (like it or not) and as such there is a strong bound between them.  Isreal get's finanacail aid from U.S, so as Egypt , Jordan, Afghanistan, and many many other countries out there......

Let's turn  things around: :Let say Iran was a secular, modern, progressive ,and deomcratic  country in the region and Isreal was despotic, brutal dicatatorship and Isreal for Thirty years openly advocated total destruction of Iran by supporting enemies of Iran and militants within Iran and to make the matter worst, Isreal decides to build nuclear bomb (excuse me nuclear energy for peacefull purposes) and missile technology to deliver it to Tehran, how would you think Iranian leadership would react then? how would you react? you don't think the leadership in Iran would have had conferance in some hotel in Tehran talking about neutralizng this threat? It's called survival instinct my friend.

What do you expect Isreal leadership to do? take it on a chin? have their citizen's live under threat of nuclear destruction night and day? being bombed night and day by missiles supplied to hezbollah by mullah's and syria?  

So Captain may be you should put yourself in their shoes once in a while, it may give you another perspective.

 


bahramthegreat

I really like it

by bahramthegreat on

This was great. I enjoyed reading it. But the author forgot to talk about our tax money that goes to Israel each year with no string attach to it. Also, the author forgot to mention: practically all of our representatives must kiss AIPAC ass first before officially elected. 

BTW - I heard Madoff invested his money there.


capt_ayhab

How about Iraq War?

by capt_ayhab on

Lets see what US Senator Ernest Hollings said about this illegal war:

 //www.ihr.org/leaflets/iraqwar.shtml

[....So if the official reasons given for the war were untrue, why did the United States attack Iraq?

Whatever the secondary reasons for the war,
the crucial factor in President Bush’s decision to attack was to help Israel. With support from Israel and America’s Jewish-Zionist lobby, and prodded by Jewish “neo-conservatives” holding high-level positions in his administration, President Bush – who was already fervently com­mitted to Israel – resolved to invade and subdue one of Israel’s chief regional enemies.

This is so widely understood in Washington
that US Senator Ernest Hollings was moved in May 2004 to acknowledge that the US invaded Iraq “to secure Israel,” and “everybody” knows it. He also identified three of the influential pro-Israel Jews in Washington who played an important role in prodding the US into war: Richard Perle, chair of the Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board; Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Defense Secretary; and Charles Krauthammer, columnist and author.

>Hollings referred to the cowardly reluctance of his Congressional colleagues to acknowledge this truth openly, saying that “nobody is willing to stand up and say what is going
on.” Due to "the pressures we get politically," he added, members of
Congress uncritically support Israel and its policies.]

 

 

-YT 


capt_ayhab

MRX1 FYI

by capt_ayhab on

Let us check few facts:

//whatsnottolike.wordpress.com/category/foreign-policy/israel/aipac/

Herzliya conference on “Israel’s national security”
It sounds like the stuff that conspiracy theories are made of. In a coastal resort near Tel Aviv, senior Israeli politicians and generals confer with top officials and politicians from Washington to discuss the threat of a nuclear Iran. In any good conspiracy theory, however, these talks would be going on in secret – preferably in an underground bunker. In fact the Herzliya conference on “Israel’s national security” is taking place perfectly openly in a smart hotel. And I am in the audience.

 

The Israel participation is, as one would expect, high level. The conference is scheduled to close with a speech from Ehud Olmert, the prime minister. The lunch-time speaker yesterday was Benjamin Netanyahu,the Likud leader, and maybe the next prime minister. We’re hearing from the foreign minister, the defence minister and a string of present and former generals.

But what has really struck me is the number of top Americans who have bothered to come over for the conference. The speaker at dinner last night was Gordon England, America’s deputy defence secretary; earlier in the day we heard from Nick Burns, the number three at the State Department. Several contenders for the presidency in 2008 have also felt obliged to tip their hat to Herzliya. Mitt Romney, who is probably second favourite for the Republican nomination, is turning up in person. John McCain, the GOP front-runner is appearing by satellite, so is Rudy Giuliani. For the Democrats, John Edwards is also scheduled to make a satellite address. I cannot think of any other country in the world that could summon up this level of American participation for a conference like this. Certainly not Britain.

 

Also well represented among the participants are well-known hawks like Richard Perle, Jim Woolsey (the former CIA director), Newt Gingrich and Jose Maria Aznar, the former Spanish prime minister. A lot of these chaps were very prominent in the drive to go to war in Iraq. Now, flushed by their undoubted success there, they are turning their attention to Iran.

There is no doubt that the war drums are beating pretty loudly here in Herzliya. The main topics of conversation that keep coming back and back – in the corridors and also in the conference hall – is how close is Iran to the bomb. Can anything short of military action stop the Iranians? If it comes to bombing, could the Israelis do it alone – or
would they have to rely on the United States Would President Bush give the order? (This place is full of people who claim to have spoken to somebody who has spoken to the president about this very issue, but they
all seem to have different stories).

End Excerpts

==========================================

This is what Juan Cole wrote on August of 2004.

//www.antiwar.com/cole/?articleid=3467

 

[Here is my take on the Lawrence
Franklin espionage scandal in the Pentagon.

It is an echo of the one-two punch secretly planned by the pro-Likud faction in the Department of Defense. First, the United States would take out Iraq, and then Iran. David Wurmser, a key member of the group, also wanted Syria included. These pro-Likud intellectuals concluded that 9/11
would give them carte blanche to use the Pentagon as Israel's Gurkha regiment, fighting elective wars on behalf of Tel Aviv (not wars that really needed to be fought, but wars that the Likud coalition thought it would be nice to see fought so as to increase Israel's ability to annex land and act aggressively, especially if someone else's boys did the dying).]

End Excerpt.

So Mr. MRX1 everyone is lying but you sir correct?

-YT 


I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek

No MRX Fool

by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on

Israel doesn't give meaning to anyhting, except the phrase "cluster f*ck." They are only holding Iran back by meddling every 48 hours. Iran is changing and Iranians can manage to get rid of this regime without Cold War fossil crackpots like Israeli ministers. They are addicted to conflict and wouldn't be a nation without it.

You have attacked us and our dumb lives. Good work. Patriot points for the day are in your bank account. Good bye!


MRX1

funny

by MRX1 on

some how I knew some where in this posting it's going to get to jews aka zionists and yup it did!  one thing is for sure: your lives without them will be meaniingless, with nothing to complain, no one to pass the blame on, in a way they are key to your happyness and existance!


I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek

WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR IRAN IRAN IRAN IRAN

by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on

did you hear hillary today? "Iran has a right to civil nuclear energy program. it doesn't have the right to nuclear arms." First of all, who is Hillary to tell Iran what to do? Two, the civilian energy program is legal under NPT and it's their right and that's what they're after. 

This is the same BS before the Iraq war. Same BS, same Israel. New potential dead darkies.  

By the way, Hillary KHANOOM purchased new crystal for the American Embassies for 5.5 million bucks. The tax payer money went to a swedish company. 

//www.nypost.com/p/news/national/hill_nub_of_...