Collateral Murder

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Brian Appleton
by Brian Appleton
07-Apr-2010
 

reference 2007 gunning down of unarmed civilians and Reuters employees from a US helicopter caught on film:
//collateralmurder.com/
I am beginning to consider the phrase " what's in American interests" an obscenity. Until our government relates to other nations as equals, and makes deals that are win win situations for the majority of their citizens, there will be no peace and no abatement of terrorism.

Personally I think that they should all be court marshalled and tried for murder and the military officers who covered it up should be put on trial too and the familes of the victims should be compensated. The one man left behind a widow and four children. I am sick of Americans bombing other countries and killing civilians and using euphamisms like collateral damage and friendly fire to obscure their crimes from the public. The families of the over 300 people who died when the US Navy shot down that Iran Air passenger plane in the 1980's were never compensated and in fact the captain of the vessal was given a medal.They still have a day of national mourning for them in Iran every year and I was there for it two years ago. The Canadians have a national day of mourning for the Canadian soldiers Americans killed in "friendly fire" in Iraq and here we don't even remember it. The families of the victims of the cable car crash in Italy when the US fighter plane severed the cable have never been compensated. I am sick and tired of Americans inflicting untold suffering on other people and being completely oblivious to it. Small wonder there is terrorism and also suicide bombing weekly in Iraq.

The hi tech Star Wars and video arcade quality of "modern" warfare has removed the reality of the pain and killing they are inflicting from the perpetrators psyches...it has become a surreal game. The media have been hiding the massive civilian casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan from the public. The reason the US is in Iraq is for oil and in Afghanistan for the gas pipeline they want to run across the country from Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan. They are not there to give Iraq democracy or end the Taliban ( a CIA creation) in Afghanistan. If you want to understand events and history just follow the money. I am so sick and tired of this double standard of Americans thinking they are morally superior than everyone else when in truth we have so much blood on our hands starting with the virtual extermination of the Native Americans. The American public turns a blind eye to the crimes of their government and their military because on some level they know that they are the beneficiaries of plundering other countries' resources....with a military force seven times bigger than any other force in the world and our global economic destruction of indigenous culture replacing it with consumer goods and consumerism, I think of us as the 21st century Monguls....
BA

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Fouzul Bashi

Mein Fraud orders AIRTIGHT SANCTIONS to free rape victims!

by Fouzul Bashi on

Brian - This Fraud who is 'preaching' about human rights and 'laments' rape and murder in the IR and is trying to bully anyone who speaks against war, sanctions, and the US/Israeli crimes, is in fact advocating AIRTIGHT SANCTIONS on Iranian people on a daily basis!!!!  He is advocating the rape and murder of a nation but shamelessly talks of human rights of Iranians!!! His daily articles are by and large ignored so here you have a frustrated führer  wanna-be ;)


Fouzul Bashi

Free - Source please?

by Fouzul Bashi on

"The regime in Iran liquidated 30,000 of its OWN PEOPLE, political prisoners, in the summer of 1988 alone".

Could you give source for this claim please?   


Free

Appleton Tomfoolery

by Free on

"the US on the other hand is not a very civil society."

You are such a tool, Appleton. How can you compare a nation like Iran with a melting pot like America. In this country, the USA that is, you have a mini-world, a country that's populated by people from every corner of the world, and the sheer differences in culture, customs and race are bound to result in higher friction, and thus, more instances of civil strife.

Appleton, you're reaching, pal. I would forgive you if your only crime was helping to bring the IRI to power, which is exactly what you and your ilk, the US diplomatic corps in 1978, did in Iran. But you're guilty of much more, and here's why you're a craven, amoral sort, because you STILL, to this day, support this belligerant, depraved, rapist regime. FACT IS: you're a massive apologist, even if you deny it 'til kingdom come, and Fred made a good case down below, where you praise the safety concerns in Iran.

Don't you get it, pal, Iranians will NO LONGER buy your massively biased, jibber-jabber propaganda. We've matured since 1978. Your mullah propaganda will not work on us anymore.

And by the way, in most, if not all, totalitarian societies (North Korea, Nazi Germany, Iran), the crime rate is almost always non-existant, because, as in the case of Iran for example, if you're a homosexual, you're executed. If you deal drugs, you're exectuted (while in the US, they get all kinds of rights, free lawyers, trials, appeals -- those bloodthirsty Americans are so cruel!), and children as young as 14 and 15 are hung in public squares in Iran. So, OF COURSE, the level crime, from SHEER FEAR would naturally (artificially really) be down in a state-controlled society like Iran!

How can you be so foolish to try to compare the public safety issues between a FREE country like the USA and a closed, totalitarian, brutal regime like the IRI? I bet you dollar for donuts the crime rate in North Korea is non-existant as well. So, what does that say about the North Korean society or its leadership? Should they be praised as well, the way you praise the IRI?

Are you sure you're not senile?


Mola Nasredeen

The families of the reporters killed are suing

by Mola Nasredeen on

and rightly so. "The families of two Reuters news agency employees killed in a 2007 US helicopter attack in Baghdad on Thursday demanded justice, telling AFP the Americans responsible should stand trial.

"The truth came out and the whole world saw. The American pilot should be judged by international justice and we want compensation because the act left orphans," said Safa Chmagh, whose brother Saeed Chmagh, a Reuters driver, died.

"He (the pilot) killed unarmed innocent people, among them a photographer whose camera was very visible. On top of that when they evacuated the wounded they opened fire again," said Safa, whose brother was 44 when killed.

Nameer Nooraddin Hussein, a 22-year-old photographer with Reuters, was also shot to death. The families said they have until now received no compensation for the incident which took place on July 12, 2007.

The video included audio conversations between Apache helicopter pilots and controllers where the US military identified the men in a Baghdad street in broad daylight as armed insurgents and asked for permission to open fire." //news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100408/wl_mideast_afp/usiraqmilitarymediareuters

How come journalists have no human rights when it comes to the imposed wars on Iraq and Afghanistan where they are hunted and targetted and killed in cold blood? This is the question that must be asked not trying to discredit the ones who ask it. 


Fred

Bait & switch CASMII lobby style

by Fred on

I see you are now comparing the safety and security of Islamist Rapist Republic to the lack of such in America, fine, a CASMII bait and switch & changing subject specialty.

Although for someone who does not apologizes for IRR, you are doing a fine job of it, how do you know that is the case? Because the Islamist Rapists say so? They make lots of patently false claims, why should this one be believed?

But even if your presumption is true what of it? Rape and other crimes in Germany during Hitler was almost nonexistent, what does that have to do with the nature of the regime? Or IRR employees raping Iranin men, women and children as state policy?

BTW, when you make such claims as “Iran remains one of the safest societies in the world when it comes to crimes, “it only reveals your IRR bias and trying to hide behind glorifying Iranins. Iranians are victims of IRR! 

Theft, armed robbery, assault with deadly weapon, rape, even simple assault after almost each traffic accident which there are many in Iran are all part of daily life under IRR. What you claim here is nothing but the figment of your CASMII lobbyist’s imagination/misinformation.  

And are we straight on your CASMII lobby connection?


Brian Appleton

???

by Brian Appleton on

Hello...I am not talking about rape in jails in the USA. I am talking about rape outside jails... and I said per capita...what crime have the victims of violent crime and rape commited here? This is not state mandated crime and I do see the difference but that gives me no comfort. There is more crime in America than any other place on earth both in relative and absolute terms and the same goes for prison population. Now don't do a Dick Cheney on me and say that crime is the price we pay for our freedom. 

Is it really freedom when a woman is not safe to walk from her office to her parked  car after dark in any urban area? Is it really freedom when your children are not safe to play in your front yard or to bike around the neighborhood.

 And the state does have a hand in this...like I said as long as we are busy killing eachother and getting drugged and drunk, instead of attacking the state there is no revolution...

The other irony is that although I am not an apologist of the IRI and its crimes despite what my detractors accuse me of, Iran remains one of the safest societies in the world when it comes to crime because Iranian people are civil even if this regime and the one before it and the one before that are/were not... the US on the other hand is not a very civil society in this man's experience and opinion...

Brian H. Appleton

aka

Rasool Aryadust


Farah Rusta

Saved by the Bell :)

by Farah Rusta on

Brian knows what I mean. 

 

FR


capt_ayhab

more on Afghanistan murders

by capt_ayhab on


Fred

CASMII lobbyist and columnist

by Fred on

I call them as I see them. Here is what CASMII lobby website classifies you as:

“Editor's note: Brian Appleton is a CASMII Columnist. This letter has been sent by MoveOn.org to the New York Times for publication.”

//www.casmii.org/casmii/index.php?q=node/3499

So you being one of them is not made up or as you put it “you [presumably I, Fred] are determined to lump me into some group”

As to the rape issue, you either miss the whole point or doing a CASMII job here. There is a world of difference between rape being a governmental policy and carried out by its employees as is the case with IRR which your CASMII lobby is so sweet on-and criminals doing it in prisons in America.

Both are abhorrent beyond comprehension but if you do not see the difference between the two and why it is doubly more abhorrent in IRR then more power to your moral grandstanding on other issues some of which are quite justified.


Free

Appleton, the KING of phonies...

by Free on

"Who else besides Russian Federation has as many nukes as the USA?" 

And thank God for this, or else we'd all be speaking Russian today, as we Iranians know all too well what thugs the Russians are. Imagaine if ONLY Russia had nukes throughout the Cold War, they would've taken over the whole world, as they took over a huge part of Iran in the 19th century, as per the humiliating treaties of Turkemenchai and Golestan.

You're full of it, pal. 

Do you think the USA is justified...in constantly threatening Iran with such a massive naval presence in the Persian Gulf?

Absolutely! As long as the beastly, inhumane mullahs rule Iran and are trying to making nukes, and we all know that's their ultimate goal, the USA should threaten Iran with everything, including the kitchen sink, in order to stop the bloodthirsty terrorists in Tehran from acquiring nukes.

Obama is the ultimate pacificist. No longer do we have a cowboy in the White House. So, why doesn't the IRI unclench its fists and at least come to the table and talk to the USA? Because Anti-Americanism is the foundation of this ANTI-IRANIAN regime in Tehran. If they make friends with USA, their raison d'etre goes out the window.

Do you hear, you phony friend of Iran?

"US Government's own data there is a sexual assault in the USA every 2 minutes? How many homocides per hour do you think there are per capita in the USA versus Iran?"

What does this have to do with anything anyway? First of all, there are 350 million people in America as opposed to 70 million in Iran. Moreover, you phony, where do they gang rape virgin girls in American prisons the night before they execute them? Where, in America, do they hang young boys and girls in public squares in 2010? Where do they execute people in America for exercising their free speech?

The regime in Iran commits mass violations of human rights AGAINST ITS OWN PEOPLE every day! The regime in Iran liquidated 30,000 of its OWN PEOPLE, political prisoners, in the summer of 1988 alone. The regime in Iran sent tens of thousands of little 10-year-old boys to the front lines of the Iraq war to walk on mines. Where do they STONE women to death in America for adultry???? Where do they throw students off 3rd floor balconies in America for just exercising their freedom of speech?

Where, in America, do state governments sanction the institutinal raping of prisoners BY THE GUARDS that are supposedly there to protect them? Yes, prisoners in America rape each other, but in Iran, the GUARDS rape the men and women, whose only crime is voicing an opinion!

You're a traitor to your own country, you phony! Stop acting like you're a friend of Iran, you and your parasitic ilk are THE ENEMY of Iran!


Brian Appleton

Thanks for you support Fouzul

by Brian Appleton on

many of these reactionaries and disenfranchised monarchists feel I have no right to an opinion on Iran because I am not Iranian. I can only tell you that I have such a deep love for Iranian culture that if I could pick any famous person in history whom I would want to emulate, it would have been Rostam... although I might have found a way to avoid the Sohrab targedy...

 Brian H. Appleton

aka

Rasool Aryadust


Brian Appleton

you are determined to lump me into some group...

by Brian Appleton on

I only represent me thank God. I doubt if the rape victims much cares whether it was committed by random criminals or by the state. You have to ask yourself why so much rape in the USA, like 100,000 times more than in Iran and then think if there is some relationship between the state and the crime rate? Why has the cash crop of Afghanistan returned to heroine production after the US invasion...do you think that is just a coincidence when the American public are the main consumer of the heroine?  As long as we are distracted by drugs, sex and crime and are fighting eachother instead of the state then there is no revolution...very effective state technique here...

Brian H. Appleton

aka

Rasool Aryadust


Brian Appleton

Typical CIA tactics

by Brian Appleton on

remember how when they decided that Noreiga was no longer their man in Panama? All of the sudden he was accused of church of Satanism, neo Nazism, drug addiction, counterfeiting currency, etc etc...I can just see the clumsy CIA agents hauling suitcases down there of all that shit to put into his office...any one of the charges would have sufficed but Americans are not big on subtlety.

I caught that too...Karzai is calling it for what it is in Afghanistan, an invasion and an occupation and for this he is accused of drug addiction and villified by our media who are not the watchdogs of our society but the watchdogs of their owners, the big corporations and the military industrial complex.... 

 

Brian H. Appleton

aka

Rasool Aryadust


I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek

Brian - do you think the USA will re-invade Afghanistan?

by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on

I think if these wars were a novel, they would never have been published because of how ridiculous and moronic the US strategy is. You would never have thought how stupid the US leadership is. 

Karzai is not siding with the Taliban. Nevermind he was installs by the USA. So I wonder, does this mean we will re-invade if the Taliban takes over officially?

The media in the US is already starting the attacks on him - "He's rumored to be crazy." "He's rumored to have a heroin addiction." 


I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek

The US Army is already trying to cover it up AGAIN

by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on

So they are stating that they don't have a copy of this video. It's "lost." Yea right. 

Stay tuned for another video from wikileaks soon. It is going to expose another bunch of lies and cover ups by the military surrounding the murder of Afghan women and the removal of bullets from their bodies with the soldiers' knives. Disgusting.

 


Fred

CASMII lobby tactic

by Fred on

When it comes to whitewashing IRR’s crimes, CASMII lobbyists use the same tired tactic as Islamist Rapists do all the time.

For example where as in their Islamist Rapist Republic it is their government employees who rape Iranian men, women and children as a matter of following governmental orders, they try to dismiss it as well it happens more often in U.S.

The CASMII member here overlooks the government policy aspect and says:

“When a female activist is arrested in Iran and raped by her jailers, the Western media is all over it but how many of you know that according to the US Government's own data there is a sexual assault in the USA every 2 minutes? How many homocides per hour do you think there are per capita in the USA versus Iran? g a tired comparison tactic”

 

BTW, it is not just “a female activist” rather many and many Iranian men, women and children who are raped by the system that CASMII is so sweet on.


Fouzul Bashi

Brian, aziz

by Fouzul Bashi on

Thank you four your humane and intelligent observations.  Ignore the venomous jerks on this site.  For 31 years they have been hissing and thrashing, not out of any concern for the people in Iran - or anywhere else - but purely out of malice and avarice.  Their hatred of the crimes of the IR is never matched by any pity towards the victims of the US/Israeli colonialists in the region.   

Many of us appreciate your intelligent compassion, and your genuine love for Iran.  We love you too.  


Brian Appleton

I am no friend of the IRI nor of the Shah nor Carter

by Brian Appleton on

you don't know me and have no basis for making these accustations but go ahead if it makes you feel better....spew your venom...knock yourself out! What I am interested in knowing is your position not how many names you can call me.  You don't even show your real name...how brave is that?

Do you think the USA is justified in occupying Iraq and Afghanistan and in constantly threatening Iran with such a massive naval presence in the Persian Gulf? Do you believe might equals right?

The US has 3000 military bases around the world, who else has that? The US has bombed more countries since WWII than any other country. What country has Iran attacked and occupied in the past 200 years? Who else has dropped atomic bombs on civilian populations? Who else besides Russian Federation has as many nukes as the USA? Who else spends as much on military as the USA? What are our priorites? Is it an egalitarian society or is it an oligarchy?

 When a female activist is arrested in Iran and raped by her jailers, the Western media is all over it but how many of you know that according to the US Government's own data there is a sexual assault in the USA every 2 minutes? How many homocides per hour do you think there are per capita in the USA versus Iran?

Brian H. Appleton

aka

Rasool Aryadust


Free

Appleton, the 31-year friend of the IRI

by Free on

You are one craven creature, man. Your strange musings would be funny if they weren't so ridiculous ("I'm so sick of..."). Cry me a river, you phony.

This guy writes, "I am sick and tired of Americans inflicting untold suffering on other people and being completely oblivious to it. Small wonder there is terrorism and also suicide bombing weekly in Iraq." 

Mr. compassionate, do-gooder American, I'll have you know that those weekly suicide bombing in Iraq have very little to do with American "collateral" damage, and a whole lot more to do with promoting sectarian or Iran's interests in Iraq. You're so full of it, man. You Americans who worked in Iran during the Carter Administration are so grossly incompetent, you should just shut up and go away! You and your ilk destroyed Iran in the late 1970's, what else do you want, its corpse?

 

 


Brian Appleton

Thanks for your comments

by Brian Appleton on

I was afraid of what the hardliner right wingers might have to say about my comments but I feel morally compelled to take that risk of personal attack and protest the actions of our government and the military. My friend film maker Jahangir Golestan Parast, director and producer of Bam 6.6 spent a sleepless night last night thanks to the images of this decrypted video clip. What I also find very upsetting is that Bush refused to sign on to the World Court since he did not want US soldiers to be subject to international law. It is this attitude of thinking that Americans are above the international law that is a real problem for all the other nationalities ..."do as I say, not as I do" can only be upheld by force. (In my book, I address how in the 1970's American expats in Iran were routinely exempted from local laws.) 

Another human cost of these illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are the refugees...I read in the National Geopraphic of all places, not a leftist journal, that there are 1.3 million Iraqi refugees in Syria, a poor nation to start with, who have fled there to escape from the war. Americans are unaware of these refugees and certainly not baring the cost of them. We all know how many millions of Afghan refugees Iran and Pakistan are taking care of and again at what cost? I am also thoroughly disappointed in Obama. I  only voted for him to end the wars and instead he has escalated them. He has made a mockery of the Nobel Peace Prize.

 

Brian H. Appleton

aka

Rasool Aryadust


capt_ayhab

Horrific

by capt_ayhab on

Senseless killing on innocent, How could some so called professional soldiers mistake camera tripods for RPG?

-YT 


Mola Nasredeen

I still can't get those images out of my mind, the way

by Mola Nasredeen on

they chased and hunted the poor journalist who was dragging himself on the ground, and how they blew up the van with the two children in it. Nobody deserves such a violent death.


I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek

Brian thank you so much.

by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on

Everyone is disturbed by this. I'm more disturbed by the way some are trying to sanitize it.

There are many Americans in Afghanistan and Iraq (they were there before they were war zones) who do great work in civil society. Have you read STONES INTO SCHOOLS by Greg Mortensen? These good people become targets thanks to the military and paramilitary (yes, you Blackwater thugs) actions.


Raoul1955

This was already posted and here is the link

by Raoul1955 on


Bavafa

Collateral Murder? it is more like collective murder

by Bavafa on

I personally consider all the deaths in Iraq that has happened as a result of US invasion as collective murder and their blood is on the US administration hand. This was an illegal and aggressive war with no justification at all.

US has instigated many wars in its short history and this probably tops it.

Mehrdad


Abarmard

Good points

by Abarmard on

It's a sad reality that countries treat one another as such and at the same time speak about lack of "human rights" in other countries. Not that they are wrong for bringing an important issue to public attention, but when they do that, they degrade the importance of human rights values.

Thanks for another humane piece.