what did i say wrong??

bajenaghe naghi
by bajenaghe naghi
02-Nov-2008
 

i hate gossip but this one i need to share.  maryam and zari khanoom have known each other since they were in the first grade at school.  zari khanoom is now married and has three children.  so the the other day maryam comes to the store with her face all white and her eyes all red.  i asked her a lot to tell me what has happened and finally she tells me that zari khanoom and her had gone to have some coffee in a coffee shop and zari khanoom has told maryam that she is leaving her husband because she is madly in love with someone else and can not take it any more.  at first she did not want to say the name of that person but when maryam insists she tell maryam that since she was 16 years old she has been in love with my maryam.  she then asks maryam to leave me and go away with her to a new apartment and live together.  hearing this maryam starts to cry and tells her that she loves her like a sister but she does not have any sexual love for her. maryam was shaking when she told me the story.  i did not know what to say. but finally i told her that she passed the danger very closely and she was very lucky to have had a satisfying lover like me to show her the real pleasures of love making .  may be if she had not experienced me and my ways of loving her she may have followed zari khanoom blindly and become a lesbian.  i think she did not like what i said because she looked at me with very angry eyes and just walked out of the store.  i haven't seen her for three days now and she doesn't answer her phone.  what terrible thing did i say to deserve this punishment?   you just can't talk to women about any thing any more. 

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javaneh29

bajenaghe aziz

by javaneh29 on

Most women are emotionally complex, so you probably do know lots about women......! I feel sorry for men sometimes because we can be diffficult to understand, it has something to do with the differences in the way our brains function.

Anyway...

the flowers are only a good idea if you can back it up with some understanding of her distress, I promise you. Otherwise she might see it as an empty gesture.

Good luck

Javaneh


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You can tell her the truth

by New Comment (not verified) on

...that you're working on your performance.


bajenaghe naghi

ajab rajab jan

by bajenaghe naghi on

you are such a clever person. i think you should run for some type office like the presidents security adviser. i am so happy that your advise was only one not three because i had so much trouble memorisizing all those lines.


bajenaghe naghi

javaneh jan

by bajenaghe naghi on

before this accident i thought i knew women but i was wrong. flowers are great ideas. thank you.


American Wife

Souri

by American Wife on

Well, you and me both....lol.  I don't have any "first" hand experience either....:-)

You picked a great source in the Kinsey report.  Truly a pioneer in human sexuality.  However, it's a commonly expressed idea that Kinsey is out of date.  Basic observations obviously still apply.

My experience, while not first hand, IS pretty directly influenced.  My brother is gay and my best friend of over 25 years sister is gay.  Needless to say, we've discussed this issue pretty exhaustively.  I went to a small women's college and my twin went to a military school in the South so it's something we both were exposed to... me more so than he.  Now, obviously things like this are subjective more than objective.  I'm sure Europe is FAR more accepting of same sex relationships than the US.  Women are more accepting of gays than men are... men are more accepting of woman/woman relationships than they are of man/man relationships.  This is proved simply by virtue of sex movies...lol.  There are VERY few men who are not affected by the woman/woman porn flicks while you'll NEVER see a heterosexual man watching a male porn flick. 

Again, I'm sure more sophisticated societies have different ideas about sexual experimentation.  But here.... no.  Women are far more likely to "experiment" than men are.  And again, women are enjoying the intimacy and affection aspect of sex with other women.  Men, in either mode, are not. 

And while it's certainly true that some married men DO seek male attention outside the marriage, it is not common in America.  I say "common"... that is not to say it's an absolute fact.  Heterosexual men do NOT go to gay bars.  Bi-sexual men do or gay men still living in the closet do. 

It would be interesting to hear first hand opinions... any gays out there? :-0


American Wife

Ebi

by American Wife on

Well, you boys go out and have a wonderful time....:-)


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Bajenaghe naghi those

by Ajab Rajab (not verified) on

Bajenaghe naghi those weren't 3 advices! They were all the same!

Anyway, if you want more than one advice here's one if you want to kill the cat at the honeymoon suite's door!

You can tell her; What the heck? Are you trying to take the front hand so you do not fall back?! You tell me after 16 years your best friend is suddenly a lesbian who of all the lesbians out there wants to sleep with you. I thought that was a joke so I joked back. Aslan if you don't underEstand a joke you should not tell it!

Aslan my baby donkey did not have a tail at birth!


javaneh29

whoops a daisy!!!

by javaneh29 on

Oh dear....! Maryam and you have fallen out before, if my memory serves me right and gotten past it. 

Bajenaghe jaan, you're so funny sometimes!! Please try to put your foot in your mouth before you speak in these delicate situations ! You know sometimes women dont need you say anything, just to listen!!!

But then again sometimes we need you guys to say something too.... I guess its not easy to know which response is best.

I think if I had been Maryam this time, I would have wanted my partner to have listened and let me cry a little. Perhaps then to reassure me that my friendship with my friend is based on many things ......

This has less to do with sex and more about feelings. Her good friend has just told her that she is taking this huge step of leaving her husband because she is 'in love' with her. How do you think Maryam feels ....!

Im going to tell you....leave her message on her a/m or take her some flowers.  My guess is that she feels she has had the rug from under her feet pulled a little and she's trying to make sense of her past and future relationship with her friend. She might even question her own judgement re relationships ... how did she not see this? What else has slipped by her.... or she may not. But in either case she needs you.

GO call her

Javaneh


ebi amirhosseini

American Wife Aziz

by ebi amirhosseini on

Mash mandali in an email invited Khar & me to a party in a nearby Hooters for tomorrow night.The answer is blowing in the baaaad dear.Inshaallah we're going to celeberate our president's victory!!.I'll send you the pictures!.

cheers

p.s.

BN aziz,since you're a Rafigh-e-shafigh,you're invited too w/o dear Maryam of course(you don't take a sandwitch to a restaurant!).


Souri

Are you sure ?

by Souri on

I am not an expert in this matter. What I said was based on my personal experience and perception.

But, honestly AW  "men who have sex with men are generally gay !!!" Really ?? I have been told that lots of married men, fathers of families, are used to visit the gay bar and night club on a regular basis. Should we call them all gay ? I don't think so.

I don't know about the American, but here in Montreal there are at least two Eastern countries which are well known for having the most married men, looking for ultra marriage affaire with other men. That is a very well known fact here.

Anyway, as I am not an expert in this domain (I admit it) I just copied the text below from Wikipedia on Dr. Kinsey's scale :

Human sexual behavior and the Kinsey Reports

 

Kinsey is generally regarded as the father of sexology, the systematic, scientific study of human sexuality.
He initially became interested in the different forms of sexual
practices around 1933, after discussing the topic extensively with a
colleague, Robert Kroc.

It is likely that Kinsey's study of the variations in mating practices
among gall wasps led him to wonder how widely varied sexual practices
among humans were. During this work, he developed a scale measuring
sexual orientation, now known as the Kinsey Scale which ranges from 0 to 6, where 0 is exclusively heterosexual and 6 is exclusively homosexual; a rating of 7, for asexual, was added later by Kinsey's associates. 

In 1935, Kinsey delivered a lecture to a faculty discussion group at
Indiana University, his first public discussion of the topic, wherein
he attacked the "widespread ignorance of sexual structure and
physiology" and promoted his view that "delayed marriage" (that is,
delayed sexual experience) was psychologically harmful. Kinsey obtained
research funding from the Rockefeller Foundation, which enabled him to inquire into human sexual behavior.

His Kinsey Reports—starting with the publication of Sexual Behavior in the Human Male in 1948, followed in 1953 by Sexual Behavior in the Human Female—reached
the top of bestseller lists and turned Kinsey into an instant
celebrity, and are still the best selling scientific books of all time.[citation needed] Articles about him appeared in magazines such as Time, Life, Look, and McCall's.
Kinsey's reports, which led to a storm of controversy, are regarded by
many as an enabler of the sexual revolution of the 1960s. Indiana
University's president Herman B Wells defended Kinsey's research in what became a well-known test of academic freedom.


bajenaghe naghi

american wife jan

by bajenaghe naghi on

what you said at the end i agree with. i talk to many women and i know a lot of them who get close with other women for intimacy rather than sex. but men do not go too much for intimacy but sex.

 as for other friends being bad influence, they cheer me up and make me smile in my darkest times. they are good friends even though may be a little mischivous.

by the way i think it was souri who said that. 


American Wife

well, I don't know exactly HOW serious this blog is...lol

by American Wife on

But... just in case it's for real.  I actually prefer humor so I don't think you really did anything wrong.  But that's just me.  Maryam is a far more sensitive woman than myself...lol.  And I know many gays... male and female... so I doubt I would have any serious reaction to someone confiding such a thing to me.  But what it comes down to is that it doesn't really make ANY difference WHY she's upset.  You just need to deal with the fact that she IS...lol.

ps.  don't listen to Khar OR Ebi OR Mash.  They are baaaaad influences.  They are single and no women will have anything to do with them, therefore they are sexually frustrated... :-0

This is going way off subject but I thought I'd introduce what will surely be a wildly controversial comment.  I'm not sure if the comment "You should know that, for a heterosexual woman, it is just impossible to have sex with another woman ! I don't know about men really, but as a heterosexual woman, I am sure about this" is meant.... hmmm, physically or not but statistically, it is much more commen for women to have same sex experiences.  Women regard sex with another woman as FAR less about sex than intimacy. 

A generalization (sorry Azadeh...lol) but true:  men who have sex with men are generally gay.  Women who have sex with women are not necessarily gay.  


bajenaghe naghi

ebi jan

by bajenaghe naghi on

good friends are hard to find and i have found a few here. daste hamatoon dard nakone be omide khoda yek rooz jobran mikonam.


bajenaghe naghi

ajab rajab jan

by bajenaghe naghi on

i like all your advises. i will tell maryam all three of them if i ever see her or talk to her again.


ebi amirhosseini

RE: mash mandali jan

by ebi amirhosseini on

BN aziz khoob hame maa ro sar kaar gozaashti haa.

Dorood


Souri

Mr. Rajab

by Souri on

You are one smart, very clever man !!

I have to say that, I do %80 agree with you, even in that blog of Goli's story. Plus you know how to talk to women, another sign of masculine maturity. I'm sure BN will soon find a way to regain Maryam's heart,  with the help of such friend like you.

Cheers,


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You can tell her that you

by Ajab Rajab (not verified) on

You can tell her that you did not understand what "pre-emptive strike" really meant!

You can tell her you thought Zari told her this because you thought Zari didn't like you and you thought this was Zari's way of breaking you two apart!

You can tell her you thought by stressing on your good qualities (sexual and otherwise) you'd handcuff Zari's "pre-emptive strike"!


bajenaghe naghi

azadeh jan

by bajenaghe naghi on

thank you for offering peace to me since that is one thing i do not have right now. 


Azadeh Azmoudeh

LOL

by Azadeh Azmoudeh on

I can imagine the look of shock on your face the instance she left you, as if thinking to yourself: "What the hell?"!!!!!!!!!! :)

PEACE


bajenaghe naghi

mash mandali jan

by bajenaghe naghi on

a master carpenter does not only use his thickest hammer or his longest screwdriver to produce his unique pieces. in the same way that a great artist does not only use his longest and hairiest brush to produce his master pieces. they use many tools in their tool boxes to produce what they produce. it is not the the length or the thickness of the tools that is important. it is how each tool optimally used. please read the post below dastam be damanet by need a big o. as for me and maryam i must tell you that it is her that makes me act the way i do. it is her and the fire inside her that makes me react the way i do. she deals me the best hand and i only need to play. i only react to what she does to me and my inside. she is like the master carpenter and the great artist. i am only a tool.


bajenaghe naghi

news goffer jan

by bajenaghe naghi on

even though i ment well i think the way i said it was wrong. live and learn i guess. she is not back and she does not pick up her phone.


News Goffer

Is she back yet?

by News Goffer on

I don't know about this, BN.  I think you may be in deep trouble here.  She will not become a lesbian just because she was propositioned, but she could walk away and stay away from you!  Sheesh...I hope she comes back because I wouldn't know where to begin helping you here.


mash mandali

WOW!!! B.N.

by mash mandali on

"i told her that she passed the danger very closely and she was very lucky to have had a satisfying lover like me to show her the real pleasures of love making .  may be if she had not experienced me and my ways of loving her she may have followed zari khanoom blindly and become a lesbian"

Good     for     you     my man!

All of us Iranian men (other than you of course), we have to spank our behind so our little budy jumps out  so we can grab him and aim when we want to piss!

You sound like you're very talented down there!

Forget about ladies, you've even got my undivided attention !

Now.....can you be a little bit more specific ? I mean.....in details...like  size, girth,....etc.

C'mon my friend, you can do it ! it's part of the "doon paashidan" game that you started playing from day 1, since you joined the site! 

there's a pill for that you know! it's called "back the ego truck off" pill !!....LOL

Do you send yourself a "Elaahi ghorboon e khodam beram" card once in a while?


bajenaghe naghi

mehbod jan

by bajenaghe naghi on

thank you for your concern. i know maryam will come back. she just needs time to clear her thoughts. 


Arash Monzavi-Kia

X eduction from the Monty Pythons

by Arash Monzavi-Kia on

For all the confused kids out there. Watch out, it is rated! 


bajenaghe naghi

need a big o jan

by bajenaghe naghi on

i will consider your request. 


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BN Jaan

by Mehbod (not verified) on

3 days gone by and you haven't heard from her? I don't feel good about this at all. My friend beware of this woman!!. I am serious, it could turn uglier than you've ever imagined. BTW, I see some hummer in your writing and responses and that is why I feel you are joking.


bajenaghe naghi

samsam jan

by bajenaghe naghi on

you have given me good advise. i use the little words most of the time but this time i thought i better say a little more and i got into trouble. may be in future i should stay with little words.


bajenaghe naghi

ebi jan and khar jan

by bajenaghe naghi on

i am a very good moslem and i also love my maryam. i only make love to her with no other person there. i do not want to share my maryam with any one specially anther woman or another man. that is against my religion and morality.


bajenaghe naghi

redwine jan

by bajenaghe naghi on

you are right they are very dangerous and you can not say anything to them with out they turn it inside out and use it against you and beat you with it.