Yep! I'm aJew!

Yep! I'm aJew!
by Azadeh Azad
26-Jan-2011
 

On January 26, 2011 The Daily Telegraph updated its 2009 news that President Ahmadinejad is descended from Jews and his family converted to Islam after he was born. They changed their name from Sabourjian to Ahmadinejad. The Sabourjians are traditionally Aradan, Mr. Ahmadinejad's birthplace, and the name derives from "weaver of the Sabour", the name for the Jewish Tallit shawl in Iran. The name is even on the list of reserved names for Iranian Jews compiled by Iran's Ministry of the Interior.

 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/6256173/Mahmoud-Ahmadinejad-revealed-to-have-Jewish-past.html

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Jonny Dollar

Unfortunaley, AN is no jew! I wish he were!

by Jonny Dollar on

According to the article by Meir jav..... in yesterday's guardian, all the jewish scolars on Iran agree that there has never been such jewish last name and profession in iran. The jews were never in that profession (sabourjian- threat painters)(carpet)). his family changed the last name when they moved to tehran since they didn't want to be looked down. his mom is seyedeh!

"In the end, a man's life is measured not by what he has but by what he has given!"


Rea

Not only Jewish and Freemason

by Rea on

He is also a communist in disguise. Can't disclose my sources, though. ;o) 


Cost-of-Progress

Hey Mehdi

by Cost-of-Progress on

the only hope for Iran is that people like you either wake the "F" up, or are eliminated all together. Frankly my dear, I opt for elimination!

You people are the virus that has plagued us for a long time.

____________

IRAN FIRST

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amirkabear4u

SURPRISED !!!!!????

by amirkabear4u on

It would be strange if jewwws where not there at all.

And they all strive for one common aim, holly land.

Also you might be interested in this link too;

http://iranian.com/main/blog/amirkabear4u/two-headed-snake


Ari Siletz

Gladly, Azadeh. But no need to reciprocate.

by Ari Siletz on

Moran was "babe of the day" on Oct 15, 2009. 12 days after the Daily Telegraph article exposing Ahmadinejad as Golda Meir's love child with Marc Chagall. No need to reciprocate with sources though: here's photo proof of the night it happened. If you look carefully you will see Mahmood as a glint in Chagall's eyes.  The artist became a freemason in 1912, by the way. So both rumors are true.

Azadeh Azad

People:don't take this seriously!

by Azadeh Azad on

 Majid: LOL! Thanks for the story :-)

 Ari, 

 I'll give us the original expert sources of Ahmadi's Jewishness, if you first give us the original source of Moran Atias' photo. LOL! 

 But seriously, who cares if Ahmadi is Jewish or not. Watch this strange video and learn that Ahmadi is also a Freemason:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8bIkE_-32k

Now the sources of Ahmadi's Jewishness, just because you asked for it (note: it won't happen every time :-)) 

 1) A 2007 Congressional Research Service report  lists the Iranian president's original family name as "Saborjhian," linking it to the Farsi "sabor," meaning "thread painter."

http://brownback.senate.gov/public/legissues/foreignpol_crsreportiranprofilestateofpres.pdf  

Can anyone open the above PDF? I couldn’t.

2) Some biographers, including Joel C. Rosenberg (a nut-case, IMO), list Ahmadinejad's original family name as "Sabaghian," meaning "dye-master" in Persian.

 3) The Telegraph reports the name on his papers is "Sabourjian" and cites a London-based expert on Iranian Jewry, who says the "jian" ending is specifically Jewish. Who is this London-based  expert on Iranian Jewry, the paper doesn’t mention. 

So, we have a PDF I cannot open, a Rosenberg who is a Jew turned Evangelist, and a London-based expert whose name we don’t know. LOL!  

Finally, as you have mentioned, we have Dehkhoda dictionary (where words are not all by the person of Dehkhoda) that says ''Sab'' means Clothing and Turban.

These sum up the circumstantial proofs of a so-called fact that is both funny and interesting at best, but really meaningless for the International and Iranian politics. It's only use is to be an incentive for drawing cartoons!

Cheers,

Azadeh

 


Majid

گل بود به سبزه نیز آراسته شد!

Majid


 

 


یکنفر زن گرفته بود، دوستها و همکار هاش رفتن برای دیدن و تبریک گفتن، عروس خانوم با یه چوب زیر بغل لنگان لنگان با یه سینی چائی وارد شد، بخاطر لغوهء زیاد همهء استکانها چپّه شده بودن و چون عروس یه چشمش هم کور بود مرتّب به در و دیوار میخورد و همه چی رو بهم میریخت! خانوم شروع کرد به ایماء و اشاره که آقا داماد حالی مهموناش کرد که خانومش لال هست و منظورش خوشامد گوئیه!

دوستهای داماد متعجّب زیر گوش داماد پچ پچ کردن که خاک عالم تو اون سرت بکنن نکبت، آخه این چیه گرفتی؟

شاه داماد گفت: راحت حرفتن رو بزنین، احتیاج به پچ پچ نیست، آخه ایشون مادرزادی کر هستن!


Ari Siletz

Aynak, interesting angle

by Ari Siletz on

Though, the rape conviction happened more than a year after the initial Daily Telegraph article in 2009. The trial may have been under way at that time, however.

What we need at this point are links or references to the original expert sources Azadeh mentions who are contradicting Yeroushalemi through linguistic analysis. They would have to be as authoritative as Dehkhoda who is consistent with Yeroushalemi in the absence of a Jewish connection to the word saboor. Haven't seen any sources yet. Azadeh, can you help?

I'm with Bavafa. The Israelis can have him. Trade him for Moran atias.


Mehdi

He is a Jew? Well, nobody's perfect

by Mehdi on

I thought our president was perfect but what do you know? Just as we raise our hopes for Iran, one more time we find that AIPAC has in fact installed our president. Damn! :)


Roozbeh_Gilani

It must be a self hating complex!

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

There is also credible evidence suggesting that Hitler's mother was half Jew, making Adolph quarter jew! Our mahmoud bi-mokh is 100% Jew though!

 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


aynak

Re:Ari

by aynak on

I asked because after the Iranian ex- president of Israel, commited some rape crimes, and by what I gather (from an Israeli friend) some Iranian-Jews are not thought very highly of in Israel, may be this prof had more motivation to not want the association.   After all, which race wants to take credit for producing Ahamdi-Nejad?

May we all have good dreams.


asadabad

nope

by asadabad on

Ahmadinejad is too stupid to be a Jew..

:D


Ari Siletz

Aynak

by Ari Siletz on

Here's Yeroushalmi's book. It's a google book so you can view most of it. The vowles in his name vary slightly from article to article, so it's better to track him through the title of his book.  Yeroushalmi is listed as a faculty member at the Tel Aviv University Center for Iranian Studies. Don't know if he's Iranian, but the list of events at the university which he has chaired or spoken at include names of some Iranian scholars you may recognize.

Bavafa

Does this mean he can now

by Bavafa on

Does this mean he can now qualify for free housing in one of the settlements in the West bank or East Jerusalem? Perhaps when the kick out a Palestinians family out of their home, AN can move in.

Most Iranians will be glad to get rid of him.

Mehrdad


aynak

Re:Azadeh

by aynak on

Aynak:  That saying also goes like this: With deeply racist and paranoid ‘’friends” like that, who needs enemies? :-)

Agreed, Jewish or not, Ahmadi-Nejad is no friend of Jews.  State of Israel as we know today, is a different story. ;)

May we all have good dreams.


aynak

Re:From other sources, however

by aynak on

Ari, I am not familiar with David Yaroshalmi.  Is he an Iranian?  (I need to know before my next conjucture :)).

May we all have good dreams.


Azadeh Azad

Ari

by Azadeh Azad on

Last night, I aslo read both David Yaroshalmi's and Meir Javedanfar's versions, before drawing this cartoon. However, there are other experts who do not agree with them and based on differing linguistic analyses assert that Sabourjian is a Jewish name. Also, the meanings of the word "sab'', i.e. rope,  turban or narrow clothing, are so very close to the word ''shawl.''  So, the Jury is still out!

BTW, I intuitively find Ahmadi's Jewish heritage, if true, to be something positive. It would reflect the heterogeneous nature of the Iranian society.

Cheers,

Azadeh


Ari Siletz

From other sources, however

by Ari Siletz on

Here's what Professor David Yaroshalmi, a Tel Aviv Universtiy expert on Iranian Jews has said on the issue:

"There is no such meaning for the word 'sabor' in any of the Persian Jewish dialects, nor does it mean Jewish prayer shawl in Persian. Also, the name Sabourjian is not a well-known Jewish name." Yaroshalmi, author of The Jews of Iran in the 19th Century, says Iranian Jews use the Hebrew word "tzitzit" to describe the Jewish prayer shawl.

According to Guardian journalist Robert Tait and confirmed by Ahmadinjad biographer Kasra Naji:

 "The name Saborjhian derives from thread painter - sabor in Farsi -a once common and humble occupation in the carpet industry in Semnan province, where Aradan is situated."

Why the name change?

According to the research of Iran-Israel analyst Meir Javedanfar

"The reason that Ahmadinejad's father changed his surname has more to do with the class struggle in Iran. When it became mandatory to adopt surnames, many people from rural areas chose names that represented their professions or that of their ancestors. This made them easily identifiable as townfolk. In many cases they changed their surnames upon moving to Tehran, in order to avoid snobbery and discrimination from residents of the capital."

 In Dehkhda the word "sab" (what a saboor would make) means rope,  turban or narrow clothing--no reference to Jewish prayer shawl. In Hebrew saboor does have a Talmudic meaning and it has to do with imagination and analysis, not prayer shawls.


Sheila K

didn't he say his mom is Sai yed?

by Sheila K on

Thought Ahmadinejad said his mother was a Sai Yed and that the Jewish heritage is false.


Pahlevan

It wouldn't be too far-fetched to think that he is Jewish

by Pahlevan on

It wouldn't be too far-fetched to think that he is Jewish, but as it turns out, he is not!

Though there are several other high-ranking IRI officials who do have Jewish roots! like Habibollah Asgaroladi!


Azadeh Azad

Yolanda

by Azadeh Azad on

Theoretically, i.e., according to the Islamic Constitution, the answer is yes. Being a Shia Muslim and a male :-( are necessary conditions, but not sufficent. To be able to run as presidential candidate, one needs to be approved by Valiye-Faqih (Khamenei) as well.

Cheers,

Azadeh


yolanda

......

by yolanda on

Hi! Azadeh,

       So if a Christian or Bahai changes his religion to Islam, that person qualifies to run for president also?


Escape

Was there really a time

by Escape on

When there were no Jews there? I find that hard to believe.


Azadeh Azad

Yolanda, Red Wine, aynak

by Azadeh Azad on

Yolanda:  It is totally acceptable for a former Jewish guy who has converted into Shia Islam to be President. Being Jewish does not mean to be of an ethnicity, but of a religion, which can be changed or thrown away.  Also, Ahmadinejad has never said anything against ''Jews per se,''  but against ''Zionism.''  

Dear Red Wine: Thank you :-)

Aynak:  That saying also goes like this: With deeply racist and paranoid ‘’friends” like that, who needs enemies? :-)

Cheers,

Azadeh 


SamSamIIII

Deluded Ommaties & their Jewphobia conspiracy theories

by SamSamIIII on

 

Three most common denominators among ommaties be it the reformist wing or fundamentalist wing of Omaru dungers are the Jewphobia, Kiaan-Iranophobia & Genderphobia. Thus No wonder that banni abbass green camp in order to shame their opponent, in this case "Ahmadinejad" use the ommaties ultimate weapon of choice to brand him as a closet JEW which carries the worst negative charge in the eyes of their Arabo ommatie clan.

In their ommatie twisted logic even the worst among them gotte be somehow related or connected to some Zio-Jew conspiracy design or pattern since they have to justify their Jew-obssesed miserable cause. & those who actualy fall for this nonsense have the common sense of a Goat.. ba aaa baaaaa. Sorry Mr Goat, no offence ::)).

Cheers !!!

 

Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan http://iranianidentity.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia


aynak

amazing

by aynak on

I always thought he was an agent of Mosad.  But this!?!   I remember after Ghaza bombing in 2008, when the whole Europe was ready to condemn Israel's war crimes, he came out and said, Jews should return to Europe!   Obviously his idiotic position on Israel, serves no one but NothingYuhooo.

How does that saying go?   With enemies like Ahmadi-Nejad, who needs friend?

Turned out he is  a self hating Jew?!

May we all have good dreams.


Red Wine

...

by Red Wine on

This is a very well thought out design and real. In terms of physiognomy Ahmadinejad's face much like the Jews.

Thanks Dear Azadeh.


yolanda

.......

by yolanda on

I was wondering if he still qualified to run for president without changing his Jewish sounding last name and changing his religion.........history might be re-written...... IRI's constitution says only Muslim men can run for president!

If he does not have Jewish heritage, why did he have the guy who called for an investigation of his roots arrested? What is he afraid of? What does he try to hide?

 


yolanda

......

by yolanda on

Thank you for the article link! Very interesting!