Ron Paul Loves the Seyyeds

alimostofi
by alimostofi
29-Oct-2009
 

He talks as if the people of Iran are not suffering badly enough already under the Seyyeds/Theocrats sanctions.  We all know the amount of our wealth that has been squandered by the Seyyeds/Theocrats.

Why doesn't someone write to this guy and wake him up.    

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alimostofi

Nousha the problem is that,

by alimostofi on

Nousha the problem is that, Iranians need to show the Seyyeds/Theocrats, in public media, who the rules the land. That can be done within the free western press. A debate can be set up to show why the Seyyeds/Theocrats are the losers. Next the UN can appoint an interim government. From then on, it is just the case of the people of Iran, doing what the interim government says. Simple. But here is the catch. It has to be non-violent. No one goes out. Think about it, talk about it, then act on it. By the Spirit behind Good Thoughts Good Words Good Deeds, it will be done. Yata Ahur until the Nowrooz day of victory and unity.

(Boy I got carried away then)

Ali Mostofi

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Nousha Arzu

So, if Ostaad, the hezbollahi donkey

by Nousha Arzu on

agrees with Ron Paul, then as a true patriots of Iran, we have to believe that Ron Paul is in the pockets of the mullahs, period.

 

LONG LIVE THE GLORY OF KUROSH 


alimostofi

Omid Karimi No one can stop

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Omid Karimi

No one can stop the good or bad culture of any country from spreading.

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alimostofi

There those who are as

by alimostofi on

There those who are as opinionated as me. But there is a difference. I don't get personal. I know who I am, good and bad, as the Ohrmazd and Ahriman forces play inside me.

Rise above the two; to have the free will to choose and no be bothered when one person sounds like the Ahriman or the Ohrmazd in me.

So please don't get personal and mock a person's right to choose, whatever that choice may mean to you.

Stick to the subject, and the subject is about Mr Paul Iran's policy and nothing else.

Ali Mostofi

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OmidKarimi

RE. Craig, Mostofi

by OmidKarimi on

Craig wrote:

"Well, considering Ron Paul styles himself a Libertarian (he's actually
some flavor of anarchist in my opinion) then you can't very well praise
him for his Libertarian positions on one thing and damn him for those
Libertarian positions on another, right? It's a package deal!"

I disagree. You will never find a politician or a formal political ideology that you will agree with 100%. If you do, your a robot. If Dr. Paul was elected as a president, and I/you was/were a governor of a state, I could still offer public health plans because the federal government would not interfere. The point is, Dr. Paul wants no public healthcare, but its acceptable for him that it is done under a state level  (same goes for example abortion, gay rights).There have been proposed same systems for Iran to solve the ethnic tension dilemma the country is suffering today.

Im pretty much a liberal, but do I believe the government should sustain vital properties for its citizens. Access to food, water, proper national defence, health care, law and order, police and fire brigades etc etc. Paul does the same (exept the health care plan), this is very different from what the true anarchist's believed in, well at least the few pockets that experimented with it in eastern europe and wrote books about it later. Dr. Paul is no anarchist, he despises collectivism.

 

Mostofi:

I disagree because I believe american culture, ideals and thoughts would be looked down upon because of sanctions and war threats coming from the US gov, no matter how much the trade would be replaced by an eastern route. This would only serve the radicals and fanatics in Iran that are worshipping the desert people's religion. But obviously, you have read more about this than I have and have more knowledge, and you make an interesting point. I will read into Levey when I get the time. Thank you.

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ex programmer craig

x & alimostofi

by ex programmer craig on

I am a COO of a university

University of Phoenix? I wonder how long it'll be before you make "Iranian of the Day" with some court case or other!?

alimostofi: Can we have some decorum here?  

Why start now!?

 

 


alimostofi

Can we have some decorum

by alimostofi on

Can we have some decorum here? 

 

Ali Mostofi

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XerXes.

Ex

by XerXes. on

I guess you must a product of failed public school system. I am a COO of a university, so some places do hire uneducated people!!

For a person who was born and raise here, you sure need to upgrade your language skills, just a friendly advice. And don't get upset if I don't answer you after this point, you say the same junk and have nothing new to say. It's boring.


ex programmer craig

Xerc

by ex programmer craig on

What's that got to do wwith Ron Paul? He's no more a democrat than Che Guevarra, or you!

XerXes learning about the US system of Government:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmHOteBVqKI&

XerXes, you ever been to school? 


XerXes.

Ex

by XerXes. on

Understand your frustration bud. You got a democrat in the white house, your Bush and Cheney are gone for good, Israel looks bad and their old military ally is dissing them, Ron Paul makes speeches that Americans begin to gradually understand...Hey it sucks to be you.

You want to make fun of something, go to the mirror and see the ass looking at you and laugh as much as you like. Good boy.


ex programmer craig

XerXes

by ex programmer craig on

Is that what we were doing? Talking? I thought I was just making fun of your Che Guevara avatar! Is that what passes for discourse in your circle of friends?


XerXes.

Not going to bother

by XerXes. on

Ex,
Talking to you is like talking to a five year old, except five year old learns after repeated lessons. Enjoy your day thinking that you are right. Good boy.


ex programmer craig

XerXes

by ex programmer craig on

Should kiss the ground that immigrants walk on.

So says the guy with the Che Guevarra avatar, eh?

Then you make fun that he says Chinese have our money?

Why shouldn't I laugh? It was funny! The guy sounds like a nut! That's his main problem, you know... it's not necessarily that his ideas are bad, it's that his presentation is screwy! But what do you care, XerXes? You use a che guevarra avatar! You've got even less in common with Ron Paul's politics than you do with Ronald Reagan's! Time to get honest and admit the only reason you praise Ron Paul is because you too think he's an idiot and you think his idiocy is good for IRI!

 


alimostofi

XerXes, when I was a student

by alimostofi on

XerXes, when I was a student flying back for holidays, I used to meet a lot of newly graduated Doctors, Engineers.  These were the winners of Iran.  The top guns.  We are talking 70s here.  Yeah I am old, va bikar (not really, just enjoy all this).

Anyway .. what was I saying .. oh yeah, I used to inevitably, as you do, end up chatting and finding that these people were not really interested to stay in Iran.  At best they wanted a house in Shemiran, Mercedes etc etc.  No one would go to the villages.

I knew for a fact that the oil company had managed to get them 60% off their tickets, and they had also gotten grants from many places.  And what do they do?  They go off and give all that talent to Uncle Sam.

The brain drain then was immense.  Now it's flood gates. 

But it is our own fault.  We needed to provide them better incentives, like tax benefits etc to get them back.  It did not happen, and the losers took over.  None of the top guns came back. How ironical. 

And that is why the intelligent Iranians outside Iran have not been identified as an alternative source to run Iran.  Names like Naderi of NASA come to mind.  We have so many.  It is a shame.

We are better than this.  

 

Ali Mostofi

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XerXes.

third and later generation of Americans

by XerXes. on

Should kiss the ground that immigrants walk on. Could you imagine average American doing anything or any innovation? Americans are very lucky to have the best and brightest from all over the world.
A commenter here is a proof of how valuable first and second generation Americans are, comparing to older settlers.
(Not to mention that perhaps this is one the "higher" intelligent one, imagine the rest!)


XerXes.

Stupidity has a limit

by XerXes. on

Ex craig you say:"since he doesn't make any sense! For instance, in the first minute he says Iran has not been in violation of the NPT (not once!) and then he goes on to cite reports that IRI stopped their nuclear weapons programin 2003."
Where do you get your news Mr. Einsteing?
Then you make fun that he says Chinese have our money?
Where the hell have you been, in a cave with Ben Laden?


ex programmer craig

Hmmm

by ex programmer craig on

Ron Paul: "The Chinese have our money!"

:D 


ex programmer craig

HHH

by ex programmer craig on

I think you misunderstood Ron Paul's comment...

That's pretty easy to do, since he doesn't make any sense! For instance, in the first minute he says Iran has not been in violation of the NPT (not once!) and then he goes on to cite reports that IRI stopped their nuclear weapons programin 2003. Does Ron Paul not know that a nuclear weapons program is a violation of the NPT in and of itself? Or is he just babbling?

If he really wants to be taken seriously as a Libertarian he should just take a principled stand and justify it for purely ideological reasons. He dilutes his message and comes across like a fool when he starts arguing legalistic semantics - especially when he contradicts himself so often.

 


HHH

Misunderstood!

by HHH on

Mr. Ali Mostofi,

I think you misunderstood Ron Paul's comment in this video.

He's taking Iranian people's side against more sanctions. 

He's saying that the recent US proposal to blockade the shipment of fuel from Venezuela to Iran is an act of war and it will upset the people of Iran and anti-regime green movement turning them against the US while it undermines Obama's efforts to continue communication with Iran.


ex programmer craig

OmidKarimi & FF

by ex programmer craig on

The only part were I disagree with DOCTOR M.D. Paul is his views on healthcare as a medical student myself...

Well, considering Ron Paul styles himself a Libertarian (he's actually some flavor of anarchist in my opinion) then you can't very well praise him for his Libertarian positions on one thing and damn him for those Libertarian positions on another, right? It's a package deal!

FF,

Paul believes in complete non interference.  

Which is why I say he's an anarchist and not a libertarian. He believes everyone should fend for themselves, no matter what. Libertarians believe in self-sufficiency, but believe the government has a crucial role in defending the rights and freedoms of citizens, and providing security and stability. 


alimostofi

Irandokht, the burden is

by alimostofi on

Irandokht, the burden is already on the people.  That is why the whole ruddy regime is there.  Mr Paul is in cloud cuckoo land.  End of story.

As I said, he needs to go and pick on another country to continue to be different than the rest of them.  

 

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alimostofi

Irandokht, Seyyed is a title

by alimostofi on

Irandokht, Seyyed is a title that means that they are descendants of an alien non-Iranian people, who believe in Islam before Iran.

Many Iranians suddenly "became" Seyyeds in the time of the Safavids.  Many did it out of "political correctness".  What Seyyeds did then, was different than now.  Nevertheless, Iran that existed before Shah Ismail ingored his Nestorian Mother and was besieged by a bunch of mad mullahs who tricked him to think he was descended from Mohammad.

We Iranians are descended from 15000 years of Ancient Iranians.  We are the sons and daughters of believers such as the Great Kianians to Zoroaster.  Please do not even compare the Seyyeds to them.  It is like comparing an ant to a T-Rex in spiritual terms.  Both have a position in the Universe, but one out shines the others by an order of thousands.

If I were to spiritually speak to your ancestors (because Astrologers do this wacky stuff) they would tell me that they did not know better.

Do I need to go further my dear?  

 

Ali Mostofi

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IRANdokht

Ron Paul's position is honorable

by IRANdokht on

I have a lot of respect for this gentleman and his views except for the health care as Omid already noted, although as far as Dr Paul's position is concerned, it remains the same "small government". 

There is nothing wrong with not wanting to meddle in other countries affairs.

These sanctions are going to work in favor of the Sepah and the burden would be on the people. I am amazed at how many times this subject has been brought up and how hard it is to make some of our own people realize that they are rooting for the Sepah!

Mr Mostofi, I still don't care for your use of the word "seyyed". Both my grand fathers and my father have the word "seyed" in their names and your use of the word for the hated IRI government where half of the mullahs are not even seyyeds, is in very poor taste and offensive. 

IRANdokht


alimostofi

Omid you and I posted at the

by alimostofi on

Omid you and I posted at the same time. Small world.  Thanks for your contribution.

As an oil man, from an oil background, it is quite clear to me that there will never be a gasoline problem for Iran.  If there is, it is because the Seyyeds/Theocrats put it on the Iranians to be bullies. The Chinese are going to make sure Iran gets plenty of gasoline.  Mr Paul refers to it very very briefly.

I studied in great detail the Sociology of Modernization by Marion J Levy at Princeton, and I know quite a lot about "emulation via trade" that you have written about.  But Iranians do not need to deal directly with the US. Fact is that Iranians are getting that all through the Far Eastern suppliers that supply the US.  In fact Iranians get it before others.  Moreover Iran provides the almost free crude oil for China's industrial zones, where all those goods are made for the western companies.

So the problem is totally out of Mr Paul's radar.  If Mr Paul wants to be really liberal per se, then he just needs to knock on his own door step at a company called Wall-Mart, that is uses Chinese political dissidents to make umbrellas and so many other things for folks like him.

Do I really need to say more? 

 

 

 

Ali Mostofi

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alimostofi

Ron Paul thinks that he is

by alimostofi on

Ron Paul thinks that he is dealing with a people's government, and that there are no better people to run Iran.  So with this frame of mind, he quite rightly would make such logical statements.

So we need to educate this Texan.  Or maybe he is just being that way because of Bush and the oil men in Texas, rather blunt right wing views. Someone should ask him to go and visit A.Mesbah-Yazdi in Qom.  Obviously he is not going to do that.  So he is just using Iran to show what type of renegade he is.

Mr Paul do us Iranians a favour.  Find another country to promote your ideals with.  You don't give two hoots about Iran, or else someone with your So called liberal convictions would be there head first for the sake of humanity.

I have tried to find a place where I can comment in public straight to his face.  That's what I do.  I hope the rest of you do so as well.  All of us dissidents who are outside Iran, do just that.  We are well respected, even more than those like Karoubi and Mousavi, who put Islam above Iran.

I will gladly take any one of those Iranians in Iran on.  But they know that as a Zoroastrian, they do not have the morality to take me on.  All of those Moslems have the blood of Iranians on their hands. I preach non-violence, and the solution is simple.  Threaten in a public debate what they could do if Iranians shut down Iran for the Seyyed/Theocrats?  The answer is academic.

If you shut off the lights, the magas gets out of the room and goes next door.  Let them find their light where they like it more, like Najaf.  Leave us 15000 year old Ancient Iranians alone.

Go in Peace! 

 

Ali Mostofi

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OmidKarimi

Ron Paul has a vision of a government foreign policy

by OmidKarimi on

I would like to see in Iran, trade and talk to all, no entangling alliances and dont get involved in other nations internal affairs.

He's not against human rights in Iran, thats just ignorent and childish, and Im disappointed for you to jump on such a wagon Ali. His argument is that you promote human rights, democracy etc by trading with other nations and wanting them to emulate you. Please watch more of his videos, read his works. He has never endorsed the IRI, nor Israel, nor Europe, he is a true and sane US nationalist. The kind of sane sober nationalist's I wish our people were run by.

You believe Geroge Bush'es democracy fund or US sanctions started the green movement? Or Iranian youth that had been affected by western ideas for government and culture... Culture is exchanged through trade. Cultural impact is the biggest weapon for change, not guns and sanctions. Ron Paul is right when he says that gasoline sanctions would hurt the Iranian people, because it would. He is right to say that war hurts the Iranian people, because it would. Ron Paul is right when he says that both of the above mentioned tactics strenghten the regime. Ron Paul is right when he says that both above mentioned tactics would not affect the regimes stability one bit. 

The only part were I disagree with DOCTOR M.D. Paul is his views on healthcare as a medical student myself. I believe healthcare should be public as it is a human right, just like access to clean water.

I enjoy reading your post's alimostofi, but this time, I feel like you watched one clip, and judged this man's entire foreign policy view on Iran one step to quickly. In other words, being very childish to a man who deserves a tad more respect than what you are giving him.

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Faramarz_Fateh

Paul's position is clear and unchanged

by Faramarz_Fateh on

Paul believes in complete non interference.  If the Bristish and the Americans hadn't interfere in Iranian politics, Reza Shah would have continued on for another 10 or so years.  During this time he would have gotten rid of all the Mullahs and Ayatollahs and we would not have had this mess for 29 years.  The Americans forbade Reza Shah to kill many of the top clergy because they wanted to have them around as a bargaining chip, including the top Goh, Khomeini.

 


faryarm

Keep Asking WHY?

by faryarm on

There can only one reason why he is against Human Rights in Iran, and unfortunately the conclusion would not be kind to his integrty; he can not hide behind his claim

that one can not interfere with the policies of another country from thousands of miles away..

A nation has spoken; people have been sacrificed; the world has witnessed and the world public opinion is for Human Rights in Iran and everywhere...

The elected members of the American people in a rare Bipartisan overwhelming unity voted for the resolution and Mr Paul, for "whatever" reason DID NOT... 

I am not one to get entangled in partisan isues, but this really does begs the question. 

need one say more?

faryarm 

 


masoudA

Faryarm

by masoudA on

Your post says it all.   I wonder those who supported Paul in this thread would take 30 seconds to even think about what you posted.

Dear Ali Mostofi - Good to hear from you - long time.   Paul is an idiot - a complete fool.   Never offers solutions to any problems - yet always has a crtic to potential solutions.  

BTW Ali - checkout www.irancorner.net


bachenavvab

Issue at hand!

by bachenavvab on

His position on this issue is still dead-on-balls!