Litmus test

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alimostofi
by alimostofi
04-Oct-2007
 

"I've told the Iranians This is your litmus test. You committed yourself to come clean. If you don't, nobody will be able to come to your support," he said.

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So ElBaradei, faced with suspicion, is begging the Seyyeds to come clean. And they couldn't really care either way. The Seyyeds blind belief is that they have a duty to perform. To steal the secular Iranians' oil wealth, make centrifuges, and to them "wiping out Israel" is right. Every sworn member of the Qom seminary will follow this line. They have some 50k suicide bombers, and they are all ready. Do they really care about any kind of test?

The only sure test is the Iranian people. Yes we have some 60 millions silent majority. We have to save our land, and the world. It will be one small step for the world, but a giant leap for Iranians, if we can steer the country from harms way. The provocative nature of the Seyyeds' false pretentious morality, leaves Iran wide open to all kinds of oppression - both internally and externally.

We Iranians must save our land ourselves peacefully. We do not need people like ElBaradei to tell us about Human Rights, when we are the sons of Zoroaster and Cyrus the Great. We all need to make it clear to the likes of ElBaradei that Iranian, real Iranians are the people he needs to address. He should be wanting to speak to the intelligent professional Iranians all over the world, not the bogus Seyyeds.

As you all know the best way to get rid of the Seyyeds, is to bring up the question of General Strike, which nobody brings up, apart from me. But I will beat my drum for non violent regime change. It will happen, with no blood on the hands of the new regime. One day Iran will just switch off. Why doesn't ElBaradei tell the Seyyeds, "hey you might face a General Strike from your own secular people if you put Iran in harms way."

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sz:It is all in the hands

by alimostofi on

sz:

It is all in the hands of the media. Right now in our very very small way, via the all famous Iranian.com, me and you are able to discuss, and openly agree. But if we all do it, we will win.

If we were on Iran's national TV radio, newspapers, and every body talked about a "Staying at home General Strike", then the Seyyeds would be dumb founded. They would not be able say or do anything. Let's say some Ayatollah was sitting in front of me, what could he say? That he was going to get his poodles out, and drag everyone out of their houses. Ha Ha! That he was going to issue a fatwa to 60 million true Iranians. Khandeh dareh na?

The people of Iran did not participate in the phoney elections, and are not participating in any Seyyed public show. They know that. All they can do is to keep their poodles marching, just like the Soviets did or the North Koreans do. They get the cameras out, blast the US to show why they are in power, and need the nukes. Meanwhile they do busines with USA via Dubai.

If Seyyeds in Iran really wanted to have alternative energy to oil, then why don't they spend less on centrifuges and more to improve the internal gas network, and railways. Fact is that they want to make the bomb for the sake of Islam.

The Nowrooz believer does not need the bomb, and will not be enemies with anyone. The Iranian that puts Life and reason as his ancestors had written it in the Zend Avesta, does not put the land of Iran in harms way, or spoil it in any way. Ancient Iranians worshipped the purity of our land and our relationships.

We did not win anything by killing. We won with wisdom. That was the test that Iranians scored an A+ in. That wisdom produced the greatest early artists and sceintists in the world, thousands of years before any religion, especially the Seyyed one.

Ali Mostofi

http://www.alimostofi.com


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Ways and means

by sz (not verified) on

I think the argument has been won long ago. All, to the one, all peaceful, relatively bloodless fundamental changing of incumbent tyrannical systems has come to be through general strikes. The point I was trying to make and obviously was not good at it was that the mechanics of it is the trillion dollar question. Soros Foundation and alike are after finding the cookie cutter methods as are many others. Respectfully I suggest to all interested parties to zero in on the nuts and bolts of it. Finding the quickest, cheapest and least costly in human blood ways and means of this struggle shall set us free. More power to you Ali for what you are doing, please keep after it.


alimostofi

Showing Seyyeds' weakness, and non-Iranian purpose

by alimostofi on

sz:

 

I do not think that any organization of any society has ever managed to survive a General Strike. But more to the point, I do not think that any Seyyed could ever have an answer for a question based on General Strike. And that is the whole point. People need to see the benefits of discussion about the power of General Strike, just like you and me are doing here. We both agree that the Seyyeds, and their poodles can do nothing. If an Ayatollah was here on this discussion, he would be speechless. So all we need to do is to win the argument, and use this argument to show the Seyyeds' weaknesses.

 

tinoush:

 

Seyyeds attract this form of attitude, because they are so elitist themselves. I really do not need to expand on their cult. All that needs to be said, is what you said, namely that in a free tolerant society we can all coexist. But the Seyyeds are elitists and do not consider Iran above their own cult. So they need to be shown up.

 

 

Ali Mostofi

http://www.alimostofi.com


tinoush

The problem is in your presumptions...

by tinoush on

I mean this as a very friendly criticism, and please keep in mind that I'm not religious, but I will defend anyone's right to practice their religion. The problem is your presumptions in both your argument and your tone. You use the word 'seyed' in a derogatory form assuming that Iranians would be okay with it, even the Iranians who want to see a democratic Iran. You have done this in the past also. Well, that is not exactly so. Why not make your point without the jab?

 

Your second presumption is that you think the solution to Iran is inherently in the will of the 'secular majority.' A society is a mix of belief and system of government works only if all these beliefs are allowed to co-exist. The GREATEST challenge for a functioning democracy is to protect the right of the minority against the will of the majority. We will always have Muslims in Iran. You can not change that and you have no right to do so. If you want to solve Iran's problem, then first realize that and present your solution in a manner that will take the Muslims into consideration also. In addition, Iran's problems have much less to do with Islam, more so at this point after the revolution. It's about power and the will to keep it concentrated in hands of a few people. In my opinion, you will be more effective if you present a more inclusive argument, despite your feelings toward those you call 'seyeds.'

 

And finally, you need to separate truth from the character of the person who speaks it. If Saddam would say 'the sky is blue', would it make the sky less blue? If mother Tersa said it, would it be more blue? So, ask yourself is the IRI's stance on the nuclear issue wrong, because it's the IRI or because of indisputable facts? A thief can tell the truth sometimes. If you want to lead or be take seriously, you have to be able to tell when the thieves are telling the truth!


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Ali Seyyed

by Bazam Goozam beh risheh Ali Seyyed (not verified) on

Why do you zer zer so much?


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Hell or high water

by sz (not verified) on

In my opinion what you suggest will ultimately be the death nail of this regime. But the regime knows it too and has prepared for it for it was precisely the same general strike ( the most important one in the oils sector)that broke the back of the previous regime. Besides the myriad of overlapping intelligent agencies each with their own prison system and gulags, every office of private or public venture of some size throughout the country has an Islamic Society rep who can not be dismissed and makes regular reports to a central apparatus in Tehran. That is how the regime is able to nip any organized strike in the bud. And that is why the regime and its collaborators are so against outside mass Medias that eventually could be the conduit for passing messages to the general public of the impeding work stoppage. That is why the measly 75 million has all of them riling against it. That is why they keep belittling and dismissing L.A.’s amateurish diaspora satellite outlets and how ineffective they are and at the same time jammed their signals through their Islamic station in Havana Cuba at the height of student uprising. Hell or high water this regime is a goner, the only question is the price of emancipation that is imposed on the nation.


alimostofi

Here is a superb example

by alimostofi on

Folks here is a superb example of why we should keep this forum free and open. I could immediately get personal and hit him back, and not let the issue at hand be propogated. It is a form of scam. Being a veteran of these sorts of interactions, I know exactly how to treat this.

First let's look at the political content of this person's contribution. There is a historical correlation to Vietnam. Not quite sure it applies, as I am talking about non violence, and the fact that US is seen as an external oppressor.

So my advice to the person writing that is, "please read the English properly", and do your home work on me. You get an E for effort.

Ali Mostofi

http://www.alimostofi.com


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Piece of garbage propagandist says nothing against US Warmonger

by An Iranian in DC (not verified) on

This filthy animal Ali Mostofi is a subhuman U.S. government propagandist. You already emigrated from Iran, you douche-bag. What happens in that country is none of your business. Since you live in the U.S. now, why don't you worry about what the U.S. government does? This bloodthirsty American government killed more civilians in Vietnam alone than all the most fanatical Muslims in the world combined. Let Iranians in Iran worry about the mullahs themselves without an animal like you dreaming up sadistic power fantasies from 10,000 miles away. You are like the Rajavists who fought on Saddam's side against Iran...Have a nice day.