Call the Seyyeds' Bluff

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alimostofi
by alimostofi
26-Jan-2008
 

The circulated excerpts outlined voluntary and mandatory travel. restrictions and assets freezes. They also name two Iranian banks - Melli and Saderat - warning states to exercise vigilance when dealing with them. Iran Air Cargo and Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Line were singled out for cargo inspections in cases of "reasonable grounds to believe that the aircraft/vessel is transporting goods prohibited under this resolution or (earlier) resolutions," according to the proposal excerpts. The document notes Iran's refusal to fully suspend enrichment, reprocessing and heavy water-related projects and to cooperate fully with the. International Atomic Energy Agency. It requests the IAEA file a report on whether Iran has suspended these activities within 90 days.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/948243.html

And the key word in all this is 90 days. By the time any of this ever happens it will be another six months. A big Yawn eh.

So I propose the following. Give the Seyyeds the bomb. And make sure it can hit Washington DC. At that point we will really call the Seyyeds' bluff. And if they so much as even try, see how the Iranian nation will rise and kick them out.

Fact is that the world does not want Iran to develop at all into anything good. It wants Iranians to be stuck with these madmen and remain a pariah state. The last thing the industrialised nations of the world want is for the wealthiest nation in Western Asia to get connected properly and regain its title as the Cross Roads of Civilization.

Look at the world map. What is in the centre of the world? It is Iran. Now think about all the energy resources in the world and ask yourself where is it? It is around Iran. Imagine gas pipelines going all over the world from Iran.

Now ask yourself an even easier question. Why don't the world powers not help the Iranian Opposition form a government in exile and then deal with them, instead of the Seyyeds? Because they don't want to. Remember how easily they removed the Shahanshah, well then they can repeat it again. All they need to do is to ask Iranians to call for General Strikes and create a non violent regime change. It is that easy. But don't hold your breath.

No they want Iran to be the only viable threat to the world peace now that the Soviet Union has gone. This will allow the energy companies to make loads of money by keeping the oil price nice and high. And of course to keep the armed forces fully paid and employed with tax payers' money.

And ultimately it is our fault. We Iranians should be ashamed of ourselves for not being able to take care of our own problems ourselves.

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programmer craig

Hi Ali, US media could

by programmer craig on

Hi Ali,

US media could easily ask questions that would force responses. They
should ask the question of what can the Seyyeds do if the people of
Iran call for a General Strike and they all stayed at home?

It worked in Poland :)

Do you think the US has that kind of moral authority in Iran, though? Particularly, the US *media*? I don't even have any respect for the US media, how could I expect Iranians to?

Besides, the Poles saw their problems as being external, caused by the Soviet Union. And they liked and admired Ronald Reagan. Bush is no Ronald Reagan, and neither are any of the candidates for President this year. Poland is a Catholic country, and the (Polish) Pope also intervened politically.

I just don't see the US having that kind of clout in Iran. I do agree that it doens't take an armed uprising to topple a government - we've seen the proof of that in many places the last couple of decades.


alimostofi

programmer craig you

by alimostofi on

programmer craig you state:

And yet, they are still there. Exactly how far overboard would they have to go, before the peoplem of Iran turned against them and brought them down? 

Oh the people of Iran as KM has said cannot physically take them on. But one can make the argument that the silent majority can topple the Seyyeds in a General Strike. In fact even a public dialogue with one of them would be enough to blow their cover. All they have done is to keep people's minds occupied with false fear about USA. The topic must change. US media could easily ask questions that would force responses. They should ask the question of what can the Seyyeds do if the people of Iran call for a General Strike and they all stayed at home? 

Ali Mostofi

http://www.alimostofi.com

 


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what I am trying to say, is

by km (not verified) on

what I am trying to say, is that the people of Iran, are in control of
their country more than the western powers think

What do you really mean by this statement? Are you trying to say that the mullahs represent the will of the population and have popular support across the board?

I don't think that's what you're trying to say...

PC: The short answer to the question of 'why don't Iranian rise up' is that the regime is too brutal and ruthless; informants on every neighborhood (Basiji's and other reactionary groups who's livelihood and economic security depend on spying on others) 2. Regime will not only persecute the dissident but their family members and relatives including old grandmothers...No one can trust any one to organize politically anymore because it's easy to buy people's loyalty when you have empty stomachs to feed.(40% live below poverty line). Islamic Savak (savama, Vevak, Basij, etc) is probably the largest employer in Iran...In the land of mullahs this is called "job Creation"...LOL


programmer craig

Ali

by programmer craig on

what I am trying to say, is that the people of Iran, are in control of
their country more than the western powers think.

I agree with you about that. And I've actually been quite critical of the US media (I don't pay much attention to anyone else's media) on soem of their editorial stances over the last 15 years or so. It seems to me that it was during the Clinton Administration that the portrayal of Iran started changing, to one in which Iranians were helpless victims of their government.

Instead they show the Seyyeds as
having power and control.

And yet, they are still there. Exactly how far overboard would they have to go, before the peoplem of Iran turned against them and brought them down? They are already far worse than the government they replaced ever was. Is it fear of going from bad to worse, again, what keeps Iranians complacent? Or do the majority of Iranians feel that the Islamic Republic really isn't so bad, after all? If it's the latter, that makes a huge difference. And I personally wouldn't be surprised if it WAS the latter.

They don't. The west just wants to paint a
stark picture of Iran, because there are no more "threats" to the world.

I really disagree with you on this one. From 1979 to the mid 1990s, things between Iran and the US were far worse than they are right now, and there weer more global threats (not to mention a Cold War) than we could handle, then. I actually think the US has a much more nuanced view of Iran, today. I remember when it was Iran = badguys. No discussion of opposition groups, no discussion of tryinmg to promote human rights, or democracy. It wasn't all that long ago.

 


alimostofi

ordakinejad: draw a line

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ordakinejad: draw a line from africa to siberia, and then another line from EU to india, what to you get? You can't go to Asia from Africa from the land w/o going through Iran, and you cannot go from India to EU w/o going through Iran.  That's how Iran became such a powerful empire when people had not mastered the seas.

 

Ali Mostofi

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alimostofi

programmer craig: what I

by alimostofi on

programmer craig: what I am trying to say, is that the people of Iran, are in control of their country more than the western powers think.  Fact is that the media refuses to acknowledge this.  Instead they show the Seyyeds as having power and control.  They don't.  The west just wants to paint a stark picture of Iran, because there are no more "threats" to the world.

 

Ali Mostofi

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by ordakinejad (not verified) on

Alimostofi: "Look at the world map. What is in the centre of the world? It is Iran." Is this guy serious? I have never heard any thing so brainless.
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A democratic Iran is far more likely if world governments leave "regime change" to the Iranians who live there instead of meddling from the outside. American politicians do not have a good track record of supporting our democratic aspirations...we have no reason to start trusting them now.


programmer craig

Not a good idea :(

by programmer craig on

At that point we will really call the Seyyeds' bluff.

What if they aren't bluffing?

And if they so
much as even try, see how the Iranian nation will rise and kick them
out.

If Iran launches and ICBM towards Washington DC, any Iranian with a brain in his head is going to be trying to get out of Iran before it gets turned into a radioactive wasteland. Most won't make it.

Some of your posts are good, some not so much... but this is the first one I haven't been able to make any sense out of. Would it be wise to hand an abusive bully a loaded gun, just to see if he'd use it?