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"Every religion or belief in the world from the beginning ????

"Every religion or belief in the world from the belgining till now is a man made, period" ????

Early Christians were being thrown in front of lions for their belief in ONE GOD,  during the rule of the Caesars, who were worshipped as Gods.

There are millions Jews,Zorastrans,  Christians  Muslims,  and Bahais, today who believe in That same God, but not ONE is left who worships the Roman Caesars ..

Nothing "man made", can survive in the hearts of men and women.

True religion, as God's revelation to humanity must be the cause of LOVE and bringing people together.

What is made by that Unknowable Essence we call God is Perfect, like the universe, and what is made by man is imperfect.

Deism

Benyamin, I respect your deistic "beliefs", but can't ignore some contradictions. So, if I may. You say: "God speaks through sceince" That is of course nothing but a "belief" for which there is no more scientific evidence than for Jesus the son of God, or the KAKA God on top of a mountain in Africa. So if a "God" speaking through sceince is another belief, then is it subject to your first comment which I agree with wholeheartedly:

 "Every religion or belief in the world from the belgining till now is a man made, period!!" 

Bahais I've Known

Masood, a classmate in high school, son of a gardener taking care of huge gardens of the wealthy in Shemiran,

Masood was freindly and funny.

A humble human being and I learned nothing about Bahais from him. 

Paul a college student in Kansas, U.S.

As soon as he found out I was from Iran, he started with Bahais faith, showing me books, pictures and asking me about the meaning of words in Farsi/Persian. I learned some about Bahais from him. 

Betsie, a young white female in Islamic Art studies. She once commented while watching a slide of inside a mosque:

"this is where they executed the Bahais"

and the teacher did not know what to say.

lol

Every religion or belief in the world from the beginning till now is a man made, period!!!

As Bahram Moshiri said once, God speaks through science like Math and Physics only and I tend to believe in that!

There are things for now we can`t explain like Spirituality and that is where some people tried to connect us in their "own" way to what they believ is a un seen superior!!! people like Abraham, Noah, Jesus, Mohammad and so on.

I personally don`t believe that those people tried to proficize a new religion are evil but simply what they believed is the right path to tranquality but that necassarily couldnot be extended to those who followed such belief!

As it stands I admire anyone who follows an idea or Phylosophy or a religion based on what they truly are connected to but I cannot extend that admiration to thier children because all they know is what their parents knew!

I guess we are not trully free unless one day everyone of us could find a path that ends truly to our heart, until then we will kill in the name of god and we are born in the name of god and we die for god and live without it!!!!

I prefer Bahis, Zoroastians,

I prefer Bahis, Zoroastians, Christians, non relgious believers, devil worshippers to dirty islam and arabs

No different than other man-made religions

Let me first say that no group of people should be subjected to the injustices that the Bahais have been subjected to in Iran since their inception, during the reign of all the Shahs and also even worse now with the rapists ruling Iran. However, I think a candid, open and objective discussion of bahai religion should be allowed and in fact necessary. Are they really different than other religions?

The Bahai faith is in a difficult conundrum. It talks about unity, equality, women's rights etc, but it also accepts the Old Testament and the Quran to be divine and Mohammad to be a prophet of God. This means they believe it was divinely OK to stone women, to commit murder, polygamy and pedophilia. They also believe that there was a guy who lived to be 600 years and was given a divine order to kill his son. In fact, the Bahai teachings are very consistent with these old religions, in contrast to their current "modern" propaganda. They demand complete submission to God:

"Everything that is hath come to be through His irresistible decree. Whenever My laws appear like the sun in the heaven of Mine utterance, they must be faithfully obeyed by all, though My decree be such as to cause the heaven of every religion to be cleft asunder. He doeth what He pleaseth. He chooseth, and none may question His choice. Whatsoever He, the Well-Beloved, ordaineth, the same is, verily, beloved. To this He Who is the Lord of all creation beareth Me witness. Whoso hath inhaled the sweet fragrance of the All-Merciful, and recognized the Source of this utterance, will welcome with his own eyes the shafts of the enemy, that he may establish the truth of the laws of God amongst men. Well is it with him that hath turned thereunto, and apprehended the meaning of His decisive decree." (Baha'u'llah, The Kitab-i-Aqdas, p. 21)

Killing in the name of God:

"Consider also what trials and difficulties arise for people. To prevent an act of cruelty, Moses struck down an Egyptian and afterward became known among men as a murderer, more notably because the man He had killed was of the ruling nation. Then He fled, and it was after that that He was raised to the rank of a Prophet!

"In spite of His (Moses) evil repute, how wonderfully He was guided by a supernatural power in establishing His great institutions and laws!" (Abdu'l-Baha, Some Answered Questions, p. 14)

Death Penalty:

"In the Aqdas Bahá'u'lláh has given death as the penalty for murder."

(Baha'u'llah, The Kitab-i-Aqdas, p. 204)

About Polygomy,, Bahaullah had 3 wives. Also read:

"God hath prescribed matrimony unto you. Beware that ye take not unto yourselves more wives than two."(Baha'u'llah, The Kitab-i-Aqdas, p. 41)

They are creationist. Here is Abdulbaha said in response to Darwin's Evolutionary Findings, in his speech in San Francisco:

"We have now come to the question of the modification of species and of organic development: that is to say, to the point of inquiring whether man's descent is from the animal. This theory has found credence in the minds of some European philosophers, and it is now very difficult to make its falseness understood, but in the future it will become evident and clear, and the European philosophers will themselves realize its untruth."

"This theory (Darwinian evolution) has found credence in the minds of some European philosophers, and it is now very difficult to make its falseness understood, but in the future it will become evident and clear, and the European philosophers will themselves realize its untruth."

About Homosexuality:

"Amongst the many other evils afflicting society in this spiritual low water mark in history, is the question of immorality, and over- emphasis of sex. Homosexuality, according to the Writings of Bahá'u'lláh, is spiritually condemned. This does not mean that people so afflicted must not be helped and advised and sympathized with. It does mean that we do not believe that it is a permissible way of life; which, also, is all too often the accepted attitude nowadays." (From a letter written on behalf of the Guardian to an individual believer, May 21, 1954) (Compilations, Lights of Guidance, p. 364)

On Adultery:

"God hath imposed a fine on every adulterer and adulteress, to be paid to the House of Justice: nine mithqals of gold, to be doubled if they should repeat the offence. Such is the penalty which He Who is the Lord of Names hath assigned them in this world; and in the world to come He hath ordained for them ahumiliating torment." (Baha'u'llah, The Kitab-i-Aqdas, p. 37)

Some divine science about our universe:

"For instance, the nature of ether is unknown, but that it existeth is certain by the effects it produceth, heat, light and electricity being the waves thereof. By these waves the existence of ether is thus proven." (Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith - Abdu'l-Baha Section, p. 341)