"Revolutionary Guards" killed by PJAK

Kurdish rebels claim

09-Sep-2011
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Simorgh5555

Zendanian

by Simorgh5555 on

Thank you for your post. My own views of Kurdish independence struggle  used to be  shaped by ignorant stereotypes from. Clearly most Kurds identfy themselves as Iranians despite cultural differences which exist and not only are they not separatist but are at the forefront of peaceful co-existence amonsgt all Iranians.

In contrast most of the violence in Iraq seems to be perpetrated by the IR and its Shia cronies against the Sunnis. It is correct to observe that we have not seen Kurdish inspired violence ever since the fall of Saddam Hussein's regime. And even then the majority of Kurds were happy to keep a united Iraq and could have demanded an independent homeland by applying pressure on the US. However , this did not prevail and I do not believe, bar the most radical Kurdih resistance groups, that Kurds in Iran or Azaris in Iran want to separate. We are all Iranians.  


پندارنیک

As much as I would love to see the Revolutionary Guard and Basij

by پندارنیک on

A foreign military intervention will not help you see your long list of shoulds and woulds checked. That will be the end of Iran. Short and simple..........or maybe I should say, long and bloody complicated..............


Zendanian

OIA, and Kurds would correctly see you as an ignorant,

by Zendanian on


arrogant  observor. Per your accusation of "seperatism" from Iraq, Iran and Turkey:

Iraq- If you haven't noticed Kurds in northern part of Iraq ARE THE GOVERNMENT, and that area of Iraq, compared to the rest of the country, despite all it's problems, is relatively free of constant car bombs and mullahs.

Iran- We have had two GENERAL STRIKES in Iranian Kurdestan, in the past five years. A most effective, civilized, participatory, non-violent form of action. By many standards this makes Iranian Kurdestan the vanguard of Iranians, struggle to overthrow IR. Something to ponder and learn from.

Turkey- PKK despite all its top-down, undemocratic culture and structure, which also applies to its illegitimate child PJAK, have valid demands per cultural freedoms in Turkey.

Last time I checked Iranian Kurdestan had been militarily occupied by IR for the past 32 years: is that your idea of "living in peace?" How would you react, if some stranger comes to your house and uses indiscriminate, and unrestrained  violence against your loved ones? Turn the other cheek?


Simorgh5555

As much as I would love to

by Simorgh5555 on

As much as I would love to see the Revolutionary Guard and Basij destroyed this does not mean giving the Kurdish resistance movement unfettered suppport. 

A sensible approach would be to explore the demands of groups such as the PJAK, PKK and its other viariants. If they are fighting for an independent Kurdistan within Iran's borders then this will be opposed by any means necessary. On the other hand if they are fighting for recognition of Kurdish rights and limited autonomy within Iran then this should be accommodated wherever possible.

It is time that we embrace our diversity but accept the indivisibility of our nation.  

I share my Kurdish compatriots hatred for the IR as most Iranians do. However, the violent militants should come clean and lay their cards on the table.

They will not and should not get any support if they aspire to "break away" from Iran.   


onlyinamrica

I see kurds as bunch of

by onlyinamrica on

Trouble makers from the beginning. They are resembling the God damn MEK. You want to cut off from Iran, Iraq or Turkey then expect to pay the heavy price. Why can't you leave in peace and stop being used by foreign powers? 


Benyamin

I am sorry to see this footage!

by Benyamin on

Most of them were slodiers! The PJAK is stupid for killing them. Those soldiers were bewteen hard place and rock. If they don`t fight they get killed by the Sepah and if they fight thye kill thier own people.

Any of the soldiers could have been me! I did my military service close to the srea(although got lucky since didn`t have to use my gun not even once) But this is a prof as fighting like this is indiscriminate and only generates "hate" amongst broader Iranian population. Exact same thing happened to the MEK and most other Kurdish groups denounce the PJAK in the first place.

PJAK is being supplied and supported by the Americans. it is a "tit for tat" kind of thing for the Americans and IRI but the ones getting hurt are the youth on both sides.

PJAK leaders are liars and degenrates bastards! so are the IRI.


default

How and where?

by darius on

How PJAK get their hand on body bags that has military use?

Who is supplying them with bodybags?

 


iraj khan

His skin had turned black

by iraj khan on

the dead Pasdar's skin.

He was young, 

he was thin.

There was no joy heard 

in the voice of the Kurd

picking up the dead.  


iamfine

PJAK

by iamfine on

PJAK is a terrorist organization. For years trying hard to separate the Iranian Kurdistan from Iran. I have respect for those who are defending our motherland. The same thing happened when Iran was fighting Saddam. The same people saved Khuzestan from Arabs


asadabad

Bullies are cowards

by asadabad on

And that's exactly what the Iranian government is.  They're only "brave" when they're beating unarmed boys/girls in the streets.  As soon as they face someone who's determined, they run like cowards.  The IRI is too embarrased to admit that they're getting lashed by militants with inferior weaponry and numbers.


Roozbeh_Gilani

ouch!

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

Looks like this "opposition" turned out not to be  that peaceful.

But get used to it. I have a feeling we'll be seeing clips like this, from all over Iran,  a lot more often over the next year or so..... 

 "Personal business must yield to collective interest."


maziar 58

only......

by maziar 58 on

if there was the wired news about the incidence on the web only rather with footage and...

there must be an uncall reason for it.

Maziar


shahabshahab

Gahi posht e zin o gahi zin be posht

by shahabshahab on

These Pasarads and their brothers have kiilled so many people. It is time someone in Iran has the power to take care of them.


Arj

Ey koshteh keh ra koshti?

by Arj on

Ta koshteh shavi zar!


Immortal Guard

Turks will finish off the Kurds!

by Immortal Guard on

 

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeijxA985Pw

 

And let's hope after that their diplomatic row with Israel does not degenerate into an overall war.


jasonrobardas

Je suis contre la paine de la morte dans tous les facon, mais ..

by jasonrobardas on

I am against the pain of death in any fashion but , ........


asadabad

Good riddance

by asadabad on

If they weren't in the mountains chasing these Kurds they'd be in the streets beating protestors or raping girls/boys in their torture chambers.


shushtari

very disturbing...

by shushtari on

even though I hate the IRI.....these poor guys were still iranian.....and it's sad to see them dead like this.... 


default

Question!

by darius on

Body Bags! Where  th ebags come from?!!!!!!!!!! 

onlyinamrica

Very strange

by onlyinamrica on

Note the uniforms, helmets, body armers and boots. Similar to what us troops wear.