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there's no need for war....

just 3-4 bunker buster bombs simultaneously falling on: khamenei's 'mansion, majlis, pasdaran HQs, and feyzeye qom.....

that's it....talk about cutting the head of the snake....

our youth will do the rest 

Question: dis Makkeh MiSSAile

vAt dos dis Wahabbi tink say about missAil dAirektion, and Torah be in bi vo bA dineetoon be man befahmoonid

Ahmadinejad actually said it!

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اظهارات احمدي‌نژاد درباره رژيم صهيونيستي، خشم حاميان صهيونيسم را برانگيخت . خبرگزاري فارس: اظهارات محمود احمدي‌نژاد، رئيس جمهوري كشورمان درباره رژيم صهيونيستي، خشم حاميان صهيونيسم خصوصا حاميان غربي اين پديده شوم را برانگيخت. به گزارش فارس به نقل از خبرگزاريها، رئيس جمهوري كشورمان روز گذشته در سخنراني خود در كنفرانس «جهان بدون صهيونيسم» در تهران، با اشاره به بيانات امام راحل (ره) گفت: «همانطور كه امام فرموده‌اند،
Pاسرائيل بايد از صفحه روزگار محو شود.»  

Continuing the war from 1982-1988 was "empty rhetoric"

So the hundreds of thousands of Iranians that died as a result of the fact that Emam Khomeini insisted on continuing the war after 1982 was "mostly about empty rhetoric"? Oh, really?

(Let's just say for now that Emam was totally and completely innocent for the years 1980-1982, but I'm not sure how continuing a war for 6 another years that led to the death of hundreds of thousands of Iranians can be minimized as "empty rhetoric". Talk about facts speaking for themselves).

Well said Rastgoo...

Just as we ought to condemn IRI belligerent and provocative behavior, similarly any belligerent and provocative actions by Israel deserves similar condemnation.

It is also worth noting that while IRI is mostly about empty rhetoric and in reality has no teeth and  just barking, Israel has proven far too many times to violate international law, attack other countries and occupy their neighbors for decades now.  Facts speak for themselves.

IRI and Israel are in fact the two face of the same coin and their actions and behavior confirms that.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

rastgoo, i'm also against

rastgoo, i'm also against war with iran. how did you in your demented mind come to the conclusion that i'm pro-war. i think you should go back and read my comment. pay special attention to the first sentence. s l o w d o w n. i think it's natural for israel to test missiles or be hostile toward iri because of iri's action. and i think niac is an iri lobby because it never criticizes iri for fomenting hostilities in the region and faults israel for reacting. i won't repeat all that i wrote but you can go and read it to yourself (it's still there).

Hamsada Ghadimi=Typical right wing chicken hawk

I'm against war with Iran because of the overly obvious reasons stated earlier in this thread.  Now I'm suddenly pro-IRI!  My god man, speaking of you're either with us or against us!  I don't care whether NIAC is a lobby for the IRI or not what I care about is the bottom line that war is bad for the ME, US, Israel, and most importantly Iran and Iranians.  Regarding wiping Israel off the map!!!  I think you are most likely not familiar with farsi language and its idioms, which by the way confirms my suspicions that you're an AIPAC mole;) (back at you).  You should know that what AN said was something to the effect of "Israel mibayest az sahneye siyasi mahve she".  Now don't go around like an ignorant right wing chicken hawk loony (Fox news and company) and translate this to "wiping Israel off the map".  Judging from your naive comments you probably don't know that Israel has over 200 nuclear warheads ready to go.  And rest assured they will use them if the paranoid right wingers there feel it would teach all the A-RABs a lesson.  Would it please you to see a nuked Tehran or Tabriz or Mashad so that the IRI MAY FALL?  Please don't answer, I think I know already.

Delavar1:

One Tiny Correction: Not 30 years. Pretty soon it'll be 33 years! As for me, it has been a bit longer. Just the idea that a bunch of mullahs might take over our country, scared the hell out of me. Although not interested at all in politics, I did try to warn those VERY FEW around me who wanted "change," about the dangers of the Islamic hell which was about to break loose. But  they did not pay any attention. My logic was, as it is now, very simple. I simply asked them: How could they allow entities whom they had looked down on and made fun of, to rule us? How could they let a bunch of illiterate and backward demagogues tell us how to lead our lives? How could they respect the will of those who had lived off handouts, all their lives. I said, they would give the Islamist wretches power and they would destroy our country. I was no prophet. I had no degree in political science and no experience in political activism. But I could clearly see what was coming. All you needed to know was to understand people in general and different categories of people--in this case the Islamists--in particular. 

slow down rastgoo. 

slow down rastgoo.  regarding your first comment: you started your whole argument on a hypothetical statement.  niac doesn't mind iri firing missiles left and right, boasting how fast the missiles can reach israel, talking about wiping israel off the map, denying holocaust, and aiding hamas and hezbollah by shipping arms to them.  but it gets bent of out of shape when israel tests its missiles. don't you think with all of iri's action, israel is compelled to test its missiles and voice its contempt for iri?  if niac is not a textbook iri lobby, then i don't know what is.

just like niac, you're basing your whole conversation on a hypothetical and getting carried away in a fantasy world. you took israel's firing missiles (which many countries do) and with it you took u.s. to war, then you destroyed iran's infrastucture and made velayat faghih stronger.  let me ask you, are you also against removal of velayat faghih by iranians inside iran?

Iran and Libya

The situation in Iran is vastly different than Libya.  Iran is a country with a solid civic infrastructure.  Albeit ruled by laws set by 7th century bedouin Arabs, it is nevertheless orders of magnitude ahead of Libya in terms of its fundamentals: education, population growth and dynamics, gender relations, tribal and ethnic relations, NGOs, functioning bureaucracy, etc.  It is entangled and held in chains by an anachronistic regime that will go to any extent to stay in power.  We have all seen this with their imprisonments, eye gougings, medieval executions, stonings and limb cuttings.  The Iranian population will not take up arms like the Libyan people because they know that eventually the regime will fall as it is against human social, political and economic evolution.  The costs outweigh the rewards which may only come after years of war and chaos.  The Iranian movement is genuinely democratic and led by an educated and worldly middle class.   Bombing Iran will only lead to the loss of thousands of lives, a complete demolition of Iran's infrastructure, loss of Iranian territory disputed with her neighbors and very possibly Iran's disintegration along ethnic lines.

A female ... please!

Man ... I'm sick of seeing this dude everywhere. There are over 5000 registered female lobbyists in DC. Can NIAC please hire one and put her in front of the camera. It's not bad enough that they ear-fuck us all day, should they pollute our eyesight too?.... Please, hire a nice-looking female lobbyist as the front woman. I'll pay for it.

Rastgoo

A Military action is the only option to rid of the terrorist regime in Iran as was the case with Kaddafi. The Fanatic regime will not be toppled by Iranians without outside help as it has not for the past 30  years of the Ominous life of the IRR.

Israel can shove the missile up its .....

That's all folks :-)

Rastgoo

couldn't agree more. Thanks for your genuine concerns.

The end does not justify the means

If Israel bombs Iran you can be sure that the US will back it up.  Iran will unleash its missiles on the Gulf Arab oil fields along side hitting Israeli and US targets.  It will be an air war during which Iran will lose its infrastructure (roads, bridges, power stations, etc) and will become a lame duck like Iraq was after the first gulf war.  The disputed islands in the Persian gulf will also be taken by the US without an effort and handed over to the UAE.  The US will not invade Iran as their will be fierce resistance from the Iranian Revolutionary guards and the Iranian Army which is controlled by them as well.  We all want to see the Iranian regime to fall but military action will not bring it about.  It will only leave Iran magnitudes more destitute and isolated than it is today.  The hold of the Islamic fundamentalists on the Iranain nation will be stroner and reinvigorated just like the Iran-Iraq war consolidated their power to oust everyone else from the revolution.  Shame on any Iranian national that is comfortably living abroad and calling for such extreme measure. 

very nice!

Elections! President Obama can not! afford another confrontation with natanyahoo!

say again!

hamseda

I completely agree......when do you ever hear these guys express outrage at the akhoonds' firing thousands of missles or holding 'wargames' in the persian gulf??? or complaints about hanging thousands of innocent people from crains for young children to see????

NEVER! this parsi character is a disgrace, even by lobbyist standards.....all he does is yap about how the mullahs are victims of the west's aggression....yada yada yada

I hope there's enough room in syria when the mullahs fall, so all these paid goons can hang out together LOL 

Hafez for Beginners

I think the Israelies owe us for what Cyrus the king did for them. In a way bombing the IRR regime in Iran is one way of appreciating Iranians. Let's put it this way, King Cyrus freed the Jews and rebuilt their temple in Jeruslam. According to the definition of "Zionism" Cyrus the graet was the irst ever and the most powerful Zionist ever. Cyrus not only permitted the return to Zion (Israel), but supplied the people of Judah(currently known as the West Bank) with all that they needed to do so. Cyrus even returned the articles that the Babylonians had looted from their Temple.

The Israeles owe us that much to free Iranians from the terrorist occupiers of the Islamic rebublic in Iran. Our people in Iran are being imprisoned, raped, stoned to death and executed by the Islamic regime in Iran and we need help of the International community. I think Israel has been patient enough for the past 30 years of the existance of the Islamic Republic in Iran. IRR has been the main source of instability in the region by creating and supporting terrorist groups such as Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc. The Israelis are being terrorized everyday by these groups and when Israel responds in kind or preempts, they play crying wolf. Israel's war against terror is the only way for them to survive while the mullahs in Iran threaten to wipe out Israel off the map.I wish  Israelis the best in their future endeavors and in their fight against terror.

Surreal Moment

Politics  to one side - there's something surreal about the Jewish people wanting to bomb the Persians:

Jewish 2nd Temple: You know the wailing wall in Jerusalem? Guess who built the 2nd Temple in Jerusalem? Cyrus - an Iranian King. The Persians, with Cyrus as their leader,  having freed the Jews from slavery in Babylon, passed an edict to have the Jewish temple, that the Babylonians had destroyed, rebuilt. Hence the 2nd Temple. (Rome later extends it, and the "wall" is part of that extension.) This was such a profound moment in Jewish history, that Cyrus is the only gentile named: "King" in the Hebrew Bible.

Oldest Jewish Population on the planet: I grew up in Europe. Jewish populations were shipped out of countries, centuries at a time. 1000AD to 1300AD in England, they were just shipped out. Or worse, burned, gassed etc. - hence, the constant moving around. Iran's Jews are the oldest Jewish population on the planet - meaning, they moved there, and were never gassed, or chucked into the sea. (Sure, life as a minority would have had challenges, heck, here in the US, African-Americans were sitting in the back of the bus, with no rights to vote, until 45 years ago.) But the truth is, the State sanctioned killings and expulsions - did not occur in Iran, and the Persian Jew is among the oldest on the planet. Yes, many left after the Revolution - but so did 4 million Persian Moslems. To this day, Iran is home to the largest Jewish population in the Middle East outside of Israel. Roger Cohen of NYT has written eloquently on this, on how the Persian Jews continue to call Iran, home. (Roger Cohen visited the Jewish community in Isfahan.)

If IRAN's record: is to have saved the Jewish people in their own history, so significant an event that it gets documented in the Hebrew Bible, and to have re-build the Jewish 2nd Temple, and finally, for some 2,000 years to have been the next best "home" compared to the tortuous life  endured in Europe - if this record is to be put  aside - and there be Jewish missiles aimed at the Persians - well, then this is one of the most surreal moments of human history that I have personally, encountered.  

when is the last time niac

when is the last time niac publicized iri's missile tests and iri's boasting that their missiles can reach israel in matter of minutes!  i'm waiting for the "anti-war" niacis to enlighten us.

alx1711, you may be right but trita's "...this is the most welcoming time ..." comment may have been lost in translation (from swedish). :) 

I think Trita was hinting

I think Trita was hinting Israel to go ahead!
Quote "It would be the most welcoming time to do so".

Regime change will be a goal, though to another group of mullahs

In the next couple of years once they get around to bombing iran, they will support one group of mullahs against the others and call the new group the Iranian Islamic National Council and do a Libya Job on Iran without committing ground forces.  This is if they decide to bomb the Nuclear facilities. Mullahs are forever their goal.

Jange Zargari

Even if they attack, it is just to make sure molahs stay in power.

Two regimes that are the face of the same coin….

Which stay in power thru fear mongering and infatuated with war and death, compete in evilness and has lost legitimacy in the eyes of the world only stay in power thru fear, deception and lies.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad