INDEPENDENCE

What "Independence"?!

by Omid Parsi on Thu Dec 01, 2011 05:15 AM PST

Dear Reza;

"Esteghlaal", like "Namoos", is a LOAD of CRAP! Our "country" is an ISLAMIC JURASSIC PARK, presently under occupation by Islamist psychopaths who, by the way, just launched an attack on the UK soil! (that is of course if international norms mean anything to you!)

 This of course ties in with the fact that our "country" has been occupied for nearly 1400 years which is why our countrymen bend over (Doggy Style) 5 TIMES A DAY in the direction of the occupiers' "holy" land to thank them for their kind invasion! All this in the authentic gibberish of occupiers' language!

If you never cried foul on that shameful invasion, you cannot be talking about "Esteghlaal" now!
In other words, there is no "Eteghlaal" to defend, as there is nothing that any occupiers can do that would be materially worse than what the savage Islamists have done and/or are planning to do to Iran.

From a philosophical, as well as ethical, perspective, "independence" is an even bigger load of crap. If your life depends, or has ever depended, on soap, toothpaste, antibiotics, electricity, internet, or anything else that did not originate from your "people", you have already flushed your right to "independence" right down the toilet!

Moreover, you can't "independently" breed cockroaches and scorpions and rebuff your complaining neighbors with claims of "independence".
That's exactly what the IRI thugs are up to now and o love will be lost if they go kaput. They fully deserve whatever they will get.

 

 

Omid Parsi

by Reza Nasri on Wed Nov 30, 2011 04:10 PM PST

You're basically saying "Having to hear Azaan violates my independence; which means Independence is irrelevant; Therefore other countries are free to attack my country!"  Distorting definitions and resorting to this sort of syllogism leads to nothing better than such absurd conclusions.

"Independence" Is A Load of Crap...

by Omid Parsi on Wed Nov 30, 2011 01:26 PM PST

How about independence from the lunacy of Islam that the savage Arabs imposed on Iranians?

How about not having to hear the nauseating gibberish of the Azaan five times a day?

"Independence" for Iranians makes about as much sense as "Virginity" does for a transvestite gang rape victim!!

So long as we are stuck in this kind of retarded logic, we deserve to remain one of the most wretched peoples on earth...

Regim change at any cost.

by rain bow movment on Wed Nov 30, 2011 07:52 AM PST

My dear hamvatan(mr Nasri ) I did read your article it's a good article but it's good for 1980's it's a false nationalism,we are all knows the united nation is a dumb ,deaf,beautiful bride.

amnesty international is powerless organization(lack of funds),powerfull Eastern & western countries are not in faver of Iranian people.

they are much interested into helping to improve their economy and gain strategic position and the Islamic governoment is the enemy of Iranian.

first of all pardon me for my language & ,my farnk approach .it realy pisses me off that after 33 years of brutality & barbaric behavior of this islamic regime in Iran we are still not united against this regime and we have people out side Iran defending these monsters for various personal reasons.

People like Hamid debashi,ganji,haji faraje dabbagh,and so on are hypocreats and charlatan and .have no credibility for me,they are like ali shareietai,bazergan,yazdi,sahabi,foroohar and so on.

Dabashi and his like minded mob advocating an Islamic regime with a differnt personality(sage Zard baradare shoghale).

they are thinking by studying in a sociology of cultural and islamic studies or phlosophy (B... S artist)which is not even worth of a month of  studing it, have the rights to dictate a form  of governoment to a nation ,which allready scord and bitter of that idology,and porved a cathastrofic kind of Ideology.

a true Islamic regime is the one at the moment is in power in Iran and who ever think otherwise,they don't know Islam.

after coupe of 1979 by help of UK & EU countries,Islamist came to power,they chang a society in a way that mojiroty of people  are corrupt,low in morality,low in humanity,hypocreat ,agresive& self center,it's include some who lives abroad.

this is like a termite effected house has to be cleaned up and repaired.

we need to change words into action (stop being a keyboard worriers),get united, elect a leader or spoksperson,take the matter to united nation and demanding action befor is to lat.

Dear mr long live Iran,I'm not hypocrite nor ashamed ,just wants my dignity back & by advocateing for a right way to get help for a change of government,if this is lead to a democratic government it's worth it.

I just want to poke those defending the Islamic regime for their personal gain like NIACS.

no country(mercenary) will do any thing for free as the french & it's allies did to bring khomayni into power in 1979.

sorry folks I'v no time for spell checking take it as it is.

 

 There is no limit to stupidity & ignorance of box headed persons 

    خطر،

vildemose
Mon Nov 28, 2011 03:01 PM PST

 

 

خطر، فقدان رهبری است نه جنگ

بزرگ‌ترین خطر نه تحریم‌های سنگین و یا حتا حمله نظامی بلکه فقدان رهبری سیاسی ملی است

 

 //iranian.com/main/2011/nov-26

 

"It is the chain of communicat­ion, not the means of production­, that

 

 

determines a social process."

-- Robert Anton Wilson

کسانی که خواهان حمله نظامی به کشورشان هستند بی شرم یا دورو هستند

long live Iran
Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:36 AM PST

دکتر مجتبی مهدوی استاد علوم سیاسی دانشگاه البرتا –مقاله حمید دباشی درالجزیره تحت عنوان "ستون پنجم دوران پست مدرن" را معرفی می کند.(5)

حمید دباشی در این مقاله می نویسد کسانی که خواهان حمله نظامی به کشورشان هستند بی شرم یا دورو هستند.

دباشی می گوید، مردم عادی به طور اخلاقی مخالف هرگونه استبداد و بی عدالتی هستند ولی انها جنگ نمی خواهند.

//www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/11/2...

Do not decieve ourselves!

by long live Iran on Mon Nov 28, 2011 08:22 AM PST

Dear Rainbow,

We should not decieve ourselves. None come to make us free. It is all about oil. Specially at this harsh financial situation for the world and Europe, it is a joke to think that they are going to free us. Just look at what happens in Libia. The first things that the new goverment did was approving a law  that every Libian man can marry four women!!!! Was it the aim of attacking to Libia? Is it what we are looking for in Iran?

Decide for yourself.

Long Live IRAN.

A huge load of crap.

by Roozbeh_Gilani on Mon Nov 28, 2011 06:41 AM PST

Yet another shameless, thinly vailed defence of the criminal warmongering islamist fascists ruling our beloved country Iran, under the "anti-war", "esteghlal (independence)" cover.

If the writer is really against a military attack on iran and it's people, like the rest of us, he/she should join the rest of Iranian nation and start blaming the real source of the problem, the islamist regime and their reckless pursuit of nuclear weapon at any cost to the long suffering people of Iran.

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

A very valid poit and a good article

by Khebedin on Sun Nov 27, 2011 08:56 PM PST

I just can't uderstand some Iranains. Becuase they dislike somthing, they reject any valid argument. Perhaps this is the problem why they never get it right. They had a revelotion some 40 yeras back and now they see themselves in a mess. Well, let me tell you, with this attitute abd behaviour, you will only get yourself in a bigger mess.

Why do you argue about the validity of  Mr R. Nasri's article. What is wrong with you guys. Hate is not going to get you anywhere, but only wisdom and wise thinking and approach.

Thank you Mr Nasri for your very valid article.  

 

 

Mr. Rain bow movement,

by Reza Nasri on Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:03 AM PST

Have you read the article?

It simply argues that "sovereignty" is not an ideological concept but a legal one enshrined in the U.N Charter; and that independence and human rights are not mutually exclusive. 

Why should Iranian refugees get upset about it? 

Long live Iran for what.

by rain bow movment on Sun Nov 27, 2011 05:40 AM PST

Iran and other countries have lived for centuries,the only thing that not lived for ever is their people,in order to free Iran from this monstrous regime is to get united and ask for help to remove this regime from power and established a new governoment based on,equality,freedom of religion,distribution of wealth among the nation,and starting a nation building rather than prision buliding.

There is no limit to stupidity & ignorance all black cats

The Islamic regime of Iran has to go with any cost

by rain bow movment on Sun Nov 27, 2011 05:25 AM PST

Mr Nasri ,

It seemes the USA and UK,and EU ,Russia and china  have their daily briefing with you or like minded freinds.

they have their own plan for Islamic barbaric regime of Iran even befor helping them to power in 1979.

there is no doubt in my mind that the western countery & specifically  chania and russia are not freind of Iranian people,they dont care how these people suffer for the past 33 years,otherwise they should not have trading with theses murdere regim since the biging of the establishment.they just care for their state of economy and beeing super power.

the barbaric islamic regime will never be reformed and all of the reformist with no exception are the same as khamenhei(dictator and brutal killer) reformist like( Mosavi,khatami,rafsanjani, akbar ganji and his mob in usa and canada)are buying time for their master khamenehei.

please send your article to Iranian refugee camps around the world and ask their opinion,may be they send you a gift.

A teragic ending is better than a teragic living with no end

There is no limit to stupidity & ignorance of IR supporter

آقای نصری

Fred
Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:38 PM PST

 

مشکل من و امثال من با ایندست مقالات که با استفاده مکرر از واژه "حقوق بین الملل"سعی در مغالطه دارد عیناً همان است که عرض شد و شما از زیر جواب دادنش در میروید.

آیا در کتاب"حقوق بین الملل" شما قتل عامی که توسط همین ساختار و افرادی که اکنون بر سر قدرت هستند و نه "دولت" که شما استفاده میکنید، جنایت علیه بشریت و نه به زعم شما "جنایاتی که ۲۰ سال پیش عده‌ای در درون همان ساختار سیاسی مرتکب شده‌اند" میباشد و مشمول مرور زمان میشود؟

آیا پافشاری برای به پای میز محاکمه کشیدن متهمان به جنایت علیه بشریت به زعم شما جنگ طلبی  است؟

شما آزادید تا ایندست تفسیر ها را از "حقوق بین الملل" ویژه خودتان که بیشتر به
کتاب شرعیات میماند و جایش در همان نشریه جرس است بفرمایید؛ ولیکن توقع نداشته باشید که همانند آن نوع نشریه ها مورد  نقد و چالش قرار نگیرد.

زمان آنکه دفاع از نظام بنام مخالفت با جنگ و به هرکه با کلیت نظام پربرکت، طیف"اصلاح طلبان" و غیره،  مخالف است انگ جنگ طلب  زده شود گذشته است؛ دقیقاً همان کاری که شما بازهم با انتقاد من کردید:

"  چرا تا کسی در مقاله‌ای حتی اشاره‌ای به مخالفت با جنگ می‌کند شما اینطور
پریشان می‌شوید؟ "

منتظر پاسخ شما و دادن آدرس دقیق بند "حقوق بین الملل" که جنایت علیه بشریت  را مشمول مرور زمان میکند میباشم.

 

 

آقای فرد

Reza Nasri
Sat Nov 26, 2011 07:48 PM PST

من نمی‌فهمم مشکل شما با این مقاله چیست؟ دقیقاً کجای آن «مغالطه» شده؟

بحث من این است که مداخله‌ی بشردوستانه برای «متوقف» کردن جنایاتی است که در حال وقوع است، نه برای تنبیه کردن یک دولت برای جنایاتی که ۲۰ سال پیش عده‌ای در درون همان ساختار سیاسی مرتکب شده‌اند. این هم حرف من نیست. حرف «حقوق بین‌الملل» است. 

چرا تا کسی در مقاله‌ای حتی اشاره‌ای به مخالفت با جنگ می‌کند شما اینطور پریشان می‌شوید؟ 

 

No excuse accepted for attacking Iran!

by long live Iran on Sat Nov 26, 2011 04:31 PM PST

Iran is one of few countries which does not have independent day. Because our ancestors did their best to keep the country independent and after each attack ( Arabs, Mongol and et cet) this phonex born out of ashes. We have never had any Iranian who agreed forigner to attack their country. Who are these new guys call themselves Iranian, living abroad and begging attack to Iran?

Long Live IRAN

جنایت علیه بشریت

Fred
Sat Nov 26, 2011 05:58 AM PST

ایندست مغلطه که  آنانی که مخالف نظام پربرکت هستند  و ادعای "استقلال " آنرا همچون ادعا های دیگر مانند رعایت حقوق بشر و احترام به آراء شهروندان و حقوق  باورمندان ادیان و الی آخر قبول ندارند پس جنگ طلب میباشند رنگ باخته.

نویسنده این مقاله مدعی است نظام پربرکت دست به "جنایت علیه بشریت " نزده. او باید بگوید که کشتار هزاران نفر در ظرف چند روز توسط مأموران رسمی نظام پربرکت "جنایت علیه بشریت " میباشد یا خیر.