Ali Dances Khordadian Style

Youngster in talent competition

21-Jul-2011
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Dear Arthimis

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I was certainly aware that you were not homophobic.   

When I dance Iranian I am very careful to keep my hip still and also not to move my wrist either.  Most Iranian men don't have a considerable thick wrist.  When they move their hands (even in socializing) they sound feminine to others.

On the other hand, I don't see anything wrong with others to dance.  Really.  Why should we expect non-Iranians feel comfortable to our dance?  It reminded me a Canadian female who made fun at Iranian dance once (they called everybody a slut), and I met her later coming out of a male's washroom stall in a nightclub.   That's true that we have females, males and gays, but it doesn't mean that everybody has to fit exactly in a certain group.  I mean its okay with being comfortable though it may not be 100% socially acceptable and sometimes irrelevant to one's sexual orientation.  


Arthimis

Dear Comments, "A

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Dear Comments, "A Technique" ? If the parents support his/her artistic aspirations in such fashion, it would be only logical to think that they already know of his/her sexual tendencies, don't you think? But even if they are that blind to recognize his "loud signals" and simply promote him in such embarrasing way (asuuming the boy is strait!), then they all terribely need a family therapy, all together (especially the boy) with a psychologist (sex therapist) so he/ she can guide and advise them with proper solutions and treatments...

But my main criticism here was not about the boy! I'm not homophobic and have nothing against gay people at all. As an Iranian, I'm just appalled by this sort of cheap 6/8 music and sleazy dances, converations and behaviors of Iranians like that, sorry... We are such an extreme nation  (with negative things...) On one hand we have ignorant religous fanatic psychos ruling and running our country and on the other hand we have this sort of cheap sleazebags representing us outside Iran, one of the greatest countries & civilizations in the world...

Educate and Free Iran... 


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Arthimis

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You brought up an interesting subject.  The boy could be about 12-13 years.

Can you please suggest a technique to his parents to check their loved one if he is a gay or not?  As you commented I assumed there is a test similar to pregnancy and diabetic kits.  Am I wrong my dear?


Arthimis

OK, let's get this strait

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OK, let's get this strait now, Shall we? Is this boy a homosexual or not? If so, he/she should come clean... and good job, whatever rocks his/her boat However to promote this sort of shallow, sleazy 6/8 Iranian music, along side the with the behavior of the show host and attendees and viewers,  It's total "Aberoo rizi" on every level of art, if you can even call it Art !!! Just show this to any other nationalities and ask for their honest opinion... It's embarrasing to be identified as a nation like this... With this sort of taste, mentality and behavior, No wonder bunch of Islamic thugs took over the whole country... Sorry , but this is embarrasing, especially if the boy is not gay...


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Dear Truthseeker9

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Yes, I read the link.  Thanks.  I really don't know what to say about the age limit in a dance competition.  I am not even sure when children should compete with each other and compare their school grades. 

I am not sure about adults competency either.  Seriously.  Why should financially smart planner have a more comfortable / enjoyable life style compared to less fortunate planner?  They are smart only in one skill compared to unlimited skills that we have in the world.

 

In my previous comment I wanted to say all underground activities are unhealthy.  When an activity becomes in an underground level, the acitivity associates crooks, mugger, rapist, opportunistics and dealers with originally healthy mind people.  This is what has been happening in Iran.  Anahid's comment is the rephrase of part of my comment as well.  When she mentioned "team player, leadership and ... skills". 


iamfine

Dancing

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I am not young anymore, but I wished my parents would motivated me to learn when I was young. Anytime I am invited to an Iranian wedding, I am afraid of dancing. My wife forced me to dance and I refuse.  Another good thing about dancing is loosing lots of calories


Truthseeker9

dear Comments

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Please read the link I have added to my previous comment and you will see why I dispise these Reality Talent shows where young children are concerned. That is only my opinion ofcourse. I respect yours. I have nothing against this child at all. 


Ari Siletz

Anahid

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With you all the way on your dance school recommendation.


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Truthseeker9

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Yes, I have a very strong understanding about this subject.  I don't know how to revise my last comment.  My appology.  My comments are usually customized to certain readers.  I will try to generalize.


Anahid Hojjati

I also recommend dance school for all interested in dancing

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My daughter took Persian dance classes (Niosha Nafei) and it was great. It is not just learning to dance but also group dancing teaches teamwork. After taking more classes, kids can even come up with their own dances and yet after more classes, they can teach the younger ones. All great skills: team work, teaching, planning. So excellent advice.


Truthseeker9

dear Comments

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This might clarify one of my points:

Cowell's Confession: Simon Says, "I Was Wrong"


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Khordadian's comment.

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He is such a innocent young boy.  I loved Khordadian's comment on suggesting a dance school to the boy for two main reasons:

1) In a dance school in the west they are learned to keep their legs closed when they dance.  This is different from Iranian underground dance parties wherein they are learned to keep their legs open and lose their balance.  The one who goes to a dance school become a dancer, but the one who learns in underground becomes a fake entertainer.

2) In a dance school they learn how to cope with a rejection while embracing fame.

Asking my opinion: I see him in Harvard soon.


Truthseeker9

I agree with not labelling dancing boys "feminine"

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But at least male ballet dancers have some type of training or discipline. We see too many young children being paraded on talent shows making dances and moves as they go along. And we are always supposed to say Ahhhhhh bah bah ... sorry, but some expect a little more than a flexible body or cuteness or having the Iranian connection. My beef is more with these commercial cheesy talent shows that encourage ambitious parents to flaunt their children before they understand what rejection and fame mean. Send them to a dance school instead of expecting quick path to fame.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFXgra4yRdk

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EzCwaoQyjY


Anahid Hojjati

Nice dance

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I enjoyed it. Thanks Mehrdad for posting.


Truthseeker9

sorry

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dessssssssssssssssssssssssssert!!  :)

Should be enough 's'es in there for everyone.


Zan Amrikai

No desert? Which

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No desert? Which one--Sahara, Gobi...?     ;^P


Truthseeker9

...

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He will be an electircian when he grows up - those hand moves as if he's changing lightbulbs are good practice.

But seriously, .... these cheeky children encouraged by their parents ... go to your room! No desert for you tonight!


Zan Amrikai

Unpleasant

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This reminds me of the warped relationships that have been created in repressed societies where women are seen as less than: //sc2220.wetpaint.com/page/Dancing+Boys+of+Afghanistan 

 


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Is it really a cultural factor?

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I don't see a cultural issue when 50% of the population, which are females, are not allowed / encouraged to contribute to a country's economy.

 

50% more to the work force include 2 times competition.  Perhaps, more than half of the men would become stay-at-home men.  It may become more than 50% competition since women usually express themselves with slightly emotion, which is a sign of respect, loyalty and caring to their listeners and in a work place.


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Females residing in Iran.

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Negative comments initiate from the fact that females with about 50% of a country's population are not allowed to fully participate in a society including employment.

This is not surprizing in a country that females are mainly considered as entertainers who just participate in weddings and family invitations to dance and come up with strong make up to the public.  Or/and depressed stay-at-home female cooks who constantly worry if their husband leave them or have an affair.

Conclusion: whatever presents female attribute considers as a weakness.  What sounds more familiar to us: "be like a man" or "be a like a woman"?

bfarahmand: Exactly, thank you. 


Ari Siletz

This is wondeful to see!

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Watching a dance that you can trace to a specific school--in this case, Khordadian-- is a sign of progess in the art. Moves start to become codified and named, as in ballet, and standards in their exectuion begin to rise higher and higher--perhaps over generations. These competions are wonderful to watch, as they help advance an art form that Iranians have neglected. Don't worry about too much femininity in male dancers. Traditionally only women received a modicum of encouragement to learn to dance, so its no surprise that the moves are better suited to showcase female bodies. Stronger male/female differentiation will come when we have more men dancers . Great job, kid, and thanks!


iamfine

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This is all cultural related. When I was in Iran (long time ago?), as a boy we were not allow to wear shorts, or comb my hair in front of my father, or dancing, listening to modern music. That type of mentality will stay with you. Therefore, your tolerance with regard to a boy dancing like that is low. However, the new generation living in this country have much better understanding and much more tolerance when a boy of that age expressing himself that way.


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Milan

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Why did you say he wants to be a girl?  Do you think people have to live based on your standard?  Do you want to be a dog since you barked?


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ALLGOTTI

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I think you should feel for yourself rather than for the child or his parents.    I wish we will have a video of the child achievements after 10 years, then you will have a chance to discover who poor is.  To be more clear, someone who is able to move his asses that well in that age he will move the ass of the world and make the success you have been desperately hoping for in your whole life.   What about Poor you and your parents?


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I liked the moves at

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I liked the moves at minutes 1:44 and 2:00, which were new moves.  He didn't move his pelvis and upper thighbone, which made the dance different and more vibrant customized on his body type.


Milan

خدایا زنم کن

Milan


خدایا زنم کن طاقت مردی ندارم


Chocolate Puma

Only do what Simon says!

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Where is Simon Cowell when you need him?


ALLGOTTI

Poor kid....Poor parents

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What's with "sine bandari" move????  Grotesque !