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Iranians could learn from Americans

We cannot use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on another”

President Barack Obama

My Condolences to All Iranians.

Thanks for the info, Tavana and Souri

Tavana, Retaining the titles is a matter of protocol for all sorts of dignataries (which in a 'royal' or other 'noble' context extends to the kin), The proper protocol to write or speak to say Clinton is "President Clinton." To speak about him formally in public it is "Former President Clinton". The protocol would be very carefully observed at this time, even if only out of respect for his family (of course, that is for someone who wishes to respect them in their ordeal...).

Souri, just as I predicted on the I. of the D. thread, as you know, the information I am looking for will be mostly in Persian. And also you know that this issue of his supposedly not working when he has studied the hardest field in the humanities at an advanced level is very irksome to me. 

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Once you get to the Masters level in Academe (after four years of regular college), that is a full-time job and one of the hardest. If he strung it out a lot, with long breaks in between studies, that is a very common pattern. Especially among academics who suffer from depression, anxiety, or other emotional vulnerabilities. 

This is probably for the same reasons which draw a lot of people with those problems to the field, starting with the main requirement, which is the ability to withdraw and work alone for long periods. This can wind up compounding the problem, in a vicious circle. Then the withdrawal carries the added problem that the huge pressures of completing the various required tasks and being measured on them causes major anxiety in everyone, even the most stable--which, whether genetic or not, is an illness which alters you metabolically once chronic, like depression. Although most people don't know it, major depression is very often accompanied by major anxiety. Up to panic attacks in many cases. 

Another problem in Academe is you are always being measured (whether in reality or in your mind) with the standards being the giants in your field. Especially in a place like Harvard. Sometimes you feel you're just not good enough and you never will be, even when it isn't true. So you wind up stringing it out..and stringing it out...a lot of people, really good ones, just never can even finish that PhD...all these problems hit the depressives the hardest. 

It is the plastic screen which unites, it is the plastic screen which tears apart.

Alireza's fiance didn't die, they broke up.

See Setareh post second fron the bottom of this thread and Shifteh's later on.

//iranian.com/main/2011/jan/ali-reza-s-death

(unless there is contradicting information in this video, I don't think so...).

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It is the plastic screen which unites, it is the plastic screen which tears apart.

what is wrong with people???

What is wrong with us Iranians????  The guy is dead!  Can't we leave the dead alone at least.  We Iranians are so emotionally charged, we live for things that make us really worked up and we fail to apply logic in the process and this is why our history has played out as it has for hundreds of years.  Regardless of what you think of his father, Ali-Reza was just a pre-teen when he was forced to leave Iran and watch his father slowly die, his family moved around until a country would accept them, witnessed the suicide of his sister, the death of his fiancee, and as we all are, the demise of our beautiful country.  Lets take this as an opportunity to reflect on ourselves and our cultural attitudes.  He was as much of a victim of the Revolution as any of us.  May his mother find the strength the get through a second child's suicide and may he rest in peace.  Also, unless you know his family personally and know exactly what they did or did not do for him, don't point the finger about where his family was and how they let this happen.  Thousands of people committ suicide everyday and if their families could prevent it, believe me when I say, they certainly would.  Lets be respectful to his family.  The last thing they need now right now is to be blamed for this.  RIP Ali-Reza and all the other young lives that have been a victim of the Revolution.

DelilaNY

There's also this link below about his academical background, told by his professors and colleague. I wish  someone  could translate this for you:

//www.radiofarda.com/content/f7_cultural_town...

The good behavior of the people, warms our heart and make us thankful.....  And the bad ones, just make us to recognize and appreciate the good ones!

DelilahNY, FYI

As an Alireza friend whom he constantly uses the ttile "Prince" & "Valla Hazrat (Above the Here Present in English)" this dead's back kisser interview highlights are as follows:

He had in the past few years kept himself away from all his friends & was living in complete isolation. He was suffering from the "collective depression" as many Iranians do suffer from!!! He had tried hard for many years to find his new role in exile. He had an extraordinay memory. He was of exceptional character!!! He had realized the new generation's failure in his home country & always wanted to go back to help them. And finally his last wish had been to be buried in IRAN!!!

Could somebody please provide me with a brief summary

of the salient points in this video iin English, a paragraph will do. Would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Oh, and by the way, 'some' people come on every thread about Alireza to trash him and anyone who cares about him or even about the events themselves as being of any significance. It would appear that 'some' of these people are the most obsessed with him of all.  I would think if they didn't like all the coverage on him they would be busy commenting on and submitting items on things they think are important. Especially if they feel it matters how the site is perceived. (And if they don't feel that way then what are they doing all over the threads?) Or maybe their time would be better spent bowling. Or playing the stock market. Or doing crossword puzzles. Or anything but focusing on this non-entity.

Just an observation.

It is the plastic screen which unites, it is the plastic screen which tears apart.

What bothers me!!

There is something however about Alireza studying Iranian pre-ISlam history at Harvard which realy bothers me. As a regular Iranian Joe in USA, even I know if one wants to study ancient Iranian history the place to go is University of Chicago. Harvard is the Center of distorting Iranian history in America. It is highly influenced by IR,....if you recall they even invited AN as a speaker and had to canel it when Massach. Governor opposed it. Why would the Prince put himself in a position of having to take courses with departments and professors highly supportive of IR and Arabs? Fatemeh Haghighatjoo teaching in Harvard is an ex IR MP - an IR reformist. I don't think no matter how hard the prince had studied they would not have given him a phd!!! that may have been at least one reason to depress a person - who made a wrong decesion of wanting a degree from Harvard.

I hate to say this

But his death brings attention to many other Iranian who we don’t hear from and took their own life or still live with depression because they were forced to leave their country or face execution. . Sometimes all the money in the world can’t fix depression. 

Anti & Pro Monarchists need to learn to think Democratically

Start reading Socrates works. Any time your words/thoughts harbor anger and hate awaken to your own ignorance and seek the knowledge which will give you better understanding.

Tavana you harbor deep anti pahlavi anger... like khomeini... like saddam...

this means you lack knowledge, because only ignorance could lead you towards such views.please seek the knowledge that will return you towards thoughts, words and deeds that are in harmony with love, truth, and honor.

Bano Artefeh your conclusions are intolerant and unbalanced...not a personal attack, just an observation of the content of ones views and values, not them personally. 

Your views lack wisdom because you pretend you know everything. You assume the news and people never lie to you.  Open your mind and think of the possibilities, never pretend you know... when it is impossible.  Each of us can only be certain of our own ignorance.

For example what if alireza was murdered and the police reports which are not being opened were purposely wrong?  Secret services easily can have an important person killed and have the agent protected and the story covered up by all media outlets. 

That is the dirty work they are paid to do.  And they can do it very easily, if you are not sure, call the secret service and ask to interview an agent on their views on behalf of writing an article as a reporter.. or read books written by top uk and russian agents on their dirty work. 

Agents make it very clear what they are capable of. I happened to have knowledge of this subject reading books by different agents and they say the same thing..but then again it doesn't mean it's true, they could be deceiving me.

Here are 3 good Socrates quotes that will help you treat each other wiith more honesty and think more democratically, this is for tavana and Raoul1955 also.

1) The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance.

Socrates

2) True wisdom comes to each of us when we realize how little we understand about life, ourselves, and the world around us.

Socrates. 

3) I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance.
Socrates, from Diogenes Laertius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers 

These quotes if you can dwell on them for a while will get you towards more knowledge and less certainty in your negative views.

Think of so called holy people, like khomeini, who set up entire departments to torture and kill tens of thousands of people who did not agree with his islamic republic on the one hand, then entire classes of priests to deny they were doing anything wrong on the other.  These actions and their fruit were ignorant.

Clearly if he had more knowledge or was a truly holy person we would not create such a failure as IRI, which destroyed Islam in the hearts of most Iranians.

Khomeini was only possible due to ignorance of irans masses and intellectuals, not due to repression/corruption/tyranny and other factors that exist more in the USA or Saudi Arabia.

maziar

va na har nadoni cho Maziar bovad!

Raoul1955

First of all, your logic is based on personal attack which is so cheap and mind-less.

Second of all, in my country, Iran, we take of our loved one based on morality and not because it is required by law. Ali-Reza suicide is tragic but a failure for Reza Pahlavi.  

It's not just hard for his family

it's a sad news for all the Iran lover Iranians to lose such a good knowledgable man. We could've boasted that he was our handsome prince of Persia.Such a great looking guy! He got  his Dad's eyes, chin and broad chest and good posture. Heif o sad heif.

tavana

tavana bovad har ke dana bovad !         Maziar

Rauol1955

Your thoughtful point is in contrary with your brainless avatar. However, the US courts would have had never alllowed Reza Pahlavi, a mentally unfit adult?? himself, to take care of his more unfit adult brother. A hopeless family commiting suicide one after another. Perhaps that is the wrath of GOD on them if one believes in such.   

Bano Atefeh

You should ask an adult in your family [based on your writing I am assuming that you are underage] why a brother could not care for his forty-two year old brother and such.  In America, adults are free to live however they wish unless a court of law [this could be different in your Iran] has deemed a person mentally unfit...

Why Reza Pahlavi did not take care of his only brother?

Reza Pahalvi could not take care of his lonely, depressed brother and he thinks he can take of our country? Reza knew his brother is depressed and still, left him alone to stay in an apartment  with a gone? Not a very smart.

Nausea Inducers Blogs

The IC recent's over the excess postings of this "Nobody's Suicide" news are for sure going to make a lot of regular visitors of this site to abandon it all together. Guaranteed.

Reminds me of another Ali-Reza..

//fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B9%D9%84%DB%8C%E2...

And we know who killed him.

A lot of us are depressed about what's happening in our home country. But it doesn't mean that we put a shotgun in our mouths and commit suicide! This guy says Ali-Reza had a history of depression. Well, why this so-called royal family didn't do something about it. They have the "baad-aavardeh" wealth to hire a team of psychiatrists and psycho-analysts. It looks like they left him alone in his house in Boston since they didn't want to bother. We should ask Reza and the rest of them why this guy decided that there was no way out.

They keep regurgitating the same B.S. claiming he was depressed about the death of his sister. Cut the B.S. Tell people what really happened:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKDaOBzbrB4&feature=player_embedded

a bunch of sher-o-ver echoed by VOA

Sounds like he was muzzled by the family and their handlers. The older brother is the quite/un-engaged puppet West wants him to be, this one might have had more guts and why was kept in the shadows and the possible suicide. Depression doesn’t cut it, at least not for him. Even so, where were the rest of the family?

Ok, everybody seems to know

Ok, everybody seems to know what was wrong with him and they simply analyze why he did commit suicide, but nobody cared to help him? Didn't they believe his issues must be really serious like his sister? 

He summed it up in few words the best

"HIS DEATH IS A DEFEAT OF A LOST GENERATION"