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Agree with mr JJ

I do also think it is pretty unsound to poke finger on Arabs, since almost all people who have had power over someone else has missued it for their own purpose, now we Iranians think we are different and our kings conquered other countries by handing out candy, but truth of the matter is that we are not off better than the rest. For example Xerxes burned down Athens, or Nader Shah created last Iranian empire by killing a lot of people (10s of thousands just in India).

 It is also not so good for Haloo az a non scientist come and try to put people in ethnic belongings, his points about the arabic and azari people should really not be brought up by him since this is not his specialty, he has probably read some books on the issue. 

@Amoo Jan: Understatement of the day

"we Iranian don’t have to apology to any body when we conquered any country in the past we let them be as they were."

What do you for example call Nader Shah's attack on India and looting their riches such as the Peacock Throne and the famous Kooh-e Noor diamond?

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An Ass- Hole. Solakhkoon

Racist and ignorant

B- savad

He must be from a family of low lives

Shah Hossein

Savalan jan, please tell us the difference between Pan Turkists

and Pan Iranists?

UGLY RACISTS

وقتی به شخصی مانند محمدرضا عالی پیام که سینه ای آکنده از نفرت دارد، شاعر طنز پرداز بگویند، او هم پا را از گلیم خود درازتر کرده و در مورد هویت ملت ها و نژاد و خون آنها فتوا می دهد.

Well said, I suppoort him

Well said, I suppoort him all the way. Arabs and Islam must apologise from Persian, Turkish, Kurds and so on...

Islam is religion of Sword, Rape and Force.

Divaneh

The people who are suppressing Iranians are Iranians but they're using the Arabo-Islamic ideology which enforced on us and most of them have no sense of patriotism.

Correction

Typos in my previous post. Bloodletting, not bloc ebbing. And Bahram g, not Bantom g.

Statira and Amou Jaan

JJ is right and using racism will lead us to the wrong path of division. Iranians used exactly the same tactics in the Armenia during the Sassanid dynasty. Armenia was a point of conflict between Persian and Roman Empire and was repeatedly invaded by the two empires. Every invasion by the Sassanid armies followed by destruction of churches, execution of the Christian clergies and attempt to convert the Armenians to the Zoroastrian religion. Romans did the reverse. Religion has always been a tool in the hand of the power and both forces tried to secure their hold on the Armenia through common religion.

I respect Mr Ali Payam but there are two points for him to notice.

1. Khozistan has a mix of Arab and Persian population. The non-Arabs do not speak Arabic.

2. Most Arab Khuzestanis belong to large Arab tribes and are proud of their Arabic origin. We can see the existence of Arabs in those areas in Shahnameh too. Obviously not the desert Arabs but nevertheless Arabs.

I hope all Iranians understand that we need unity more than anything else and the people who are suppressing the nation today are not Arabs, they are Iranians.

JJ, I get your point

You are trying to heal wounds and there are those who don't see it and don't like it. There is so much hurt in us and those hurts stand in the way of healing. I read many of your posts and see that no matter what praiseworthy cause you defend or advocate some "jump" on you. In a way this is wonderful. You have created an open forum that allows freedom of views. At times it can make it hard to stay the course in the face of some of the counter arguments sent your way. For one, I am glad you are staying your course and standing for ideals and practices that can help heal than those that aim to let the various forms of bootlegging that has inflicted immense suffering on humanity to continue.Bantam g

White Whine!

People who veiw everthing thru the prism of racism( for us Iranians,it's always skin, eye and hair color) are racist themselves.

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بَه‌‌ بَه‌‌ ... بَساطِ  آش خوریِ  مُفت است و مشتری فراوانْ  ! عجب هنرمندند این پارسیانِ  مو طلاییِ  چشم آبی‌ !

با سپاس از این سُفره..ما به همان نان و پنیر حلالِ  خودمان قانِع ایم .

You're wrong again

Mr. JJ, by your assumption that Persian conquerors enforced their religion, culture and language on Indians, India today' language should be Farsi, and all Indians should be Zartoshti. How many Zartoshti lives there? Not that much.The small population of India's Zartoshies are actually the Iranians who migrated to India after the Arab invasion.

Persians

Excuse me, statira. I'm wrong. There's no need to apologize as long as you just slaughter millions :)

Have you read the history of Persian conquerors and dynasties in India? What language, religion and culture did they impose on the local population?

That's just one example. If you think our hands are clean, that Persians were tolerant freedom-lovers throughout history, just look at what they did to THEIR OWN people, let alone non-Persians!

what a pasraft

We are always quick to judge political groups during 1979 revolution. How horrible they were and all the wrongs they did. But let's give credit where it is due. Most of those political groups did not have this issue that now we seem to have. They were able to separate Islam from Arabs. Be it maoist, Tudeh, Fadaii, Jebhe Melli, etc, etc., you did not hear racist talk from these groups back then, and they did not instill racism in their supporters either.  Our poets were smart too.  So in this area, we have had a major pasraft.

Mongolian vs. Arab invasion

Mongolians attacked Iran and slaughtered millions but did not try to erase different cultures and enforce their idiology in the way Arabs did. Persian Empire ruled for centuries. Did they enforce their religion and language to the subdued nations?No

heh

Doesn't having 'Seyed' in your name mean that you are of Arab descend? Maybe he's just a self hating Arab.

It's baffling to see Iranians being upset over something that happened fourteen hundred years ago. That was the norm back then. Empires invaded eachother, massacred the population, burned down cities etc etc. Get over it.  

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the first video is uploaded by a turk fascist......  

FREE IRAN

Take a good look at you own name Agha Seyyed Mohammad Reza..

If you really dislike the Arabs so much why wouldn't you do somthing about your very long Arabic name.

Seyyed Mohammad Reza Aali payam.

If you count yourself as an open minded writer and poet you must not have any problem with any races.

For your information the ones who have to appologise to the entire world  are the Muslems and not the Arabs. you've got it all wrong.

I am not Arab by the way I am just a human being.

Well Said JJ

I agree with you logically but being honest I am sometime angry of Arabs altittute since inception of IRR.  I also believe this is due to IRR and  its conduct in the region. 

 Raoul: There is no

 Raoul: There is no disagreement there; hence, **social and cultural construct**

The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

Vildemose:

Although your posting is very factual and meaningful, most humans just follow the social 'norms' and continue to use the term 'race.'  For example, most humans on this planet continue to worship a [male] deity no matter how [and to what extend] one repeats and explains the fact that all deities are created by the human mind.:-)  Over a billion humans consider a fictional gay man as their savior.  Do you think they can just abandon such a belief just because...

I am a fan too but

I cannot watch the video now.  By the way, can someone post the lyrics?

If he is saying things like the other poet who kept using the word Tazi, I am against it. Addtionally, I find it a  rather unfortunate trend in Iranian poetry in recent years to use racist language against Arabs. I think some of it is because it attracts attention easily. Our poets specaily skilled ones like Seyyed Mohammad Reza Ali-Payam should remember to be responsible poets and not do what Bavafa noted in his comment where he wrote:" am a fan as well, but disagree with his notion here which is only fanning the flame of racism against Arabs which is a hot flame already. "

excellent point and comment by JJ

I am a fan as well, but disagree with his notion here which is only fanning the flame of racism against Arabs which is a hot flame already.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

I am Abadani, and he is right

He is not asking to put any body in jail or pay redemption just to acknowledge the wrong doing they done in the past so the future generation learn from it. Some countriesare trying to cover up their past generation’s crimes like what Turks done to Armenians. Also don’t forget the Arab mentality IR has toward Iranian.Fortunately our history shows we Iranian don’t have to apology to any body when we conquered any country in the past we let them be as they were. 

 "The concept of race

 "The concept of race is a social and cultural construction. All of us have evolved from a small band of humans in Africa.

All present humans are descended from a small band of Africans who left East African about 50-60,000 years ago (obviously leaving their descendants in African also).

//www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-migration-history-of-humans

 Race 101:

 //www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/17/995004/-Teaching-about-Race:-101

"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

dangerous road

arguments about which race is responsible for what crimes, and who should apologize to whom, can easily slide into more racism.

there's a lot of blame to go around. if we're going to demand apologies from arabs for invading Iran and imposing Islam and their alphabet on us, then:

-- Mongolians should apologize for slaughtering millions when Changiz Khan invaded Iran.

-- Whites should apologize for exterminating millions of native Americans, blacks and Jews, to mention a few races.

-- Is the "Aryan" race blameless in their history of conquests of other people's lands?

I'm a fan of Seyyed Mohammad Reza Ali-Payam, but my advice would be to leave the issue of race alone.

Arabs, Jews, Blacks, Whites, Indians, Chinese... are ALL the same race. They are all human. The common denominator of all crimes against humanity is supremacist ideas, not any particular race. We must fight IDEAS that breed violence not people who happen to be Arab, Jew or other.