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" by Disenchanted on Mon Aug 29, 2011 03:48 PM PDT By the way didn't MK suggested the idea that NIAC's head is getting paid by CIA?! "

//iranian.com/main/blog/boosboos/oo-oo-ooooo-parazit-kambiz-saman    

B/M

B/M,

Are you pretending to be this ignorant or you really do not understand the meaning of these words?????? You write that there is a dispute between Fox and FBI. If one assumed that you have actually read the article by a top FBI official, you are asserting that YOU KNOW more than the FBI official who stated that in his reading of the "FBI Report," it was not an FBI Report. Therefore, the tile of my response that B/M knows about the FBI than FBI officials on what kinds of documents could be actual official FBI Reports.

Then, you write: "

MK aziz: Please keep in mind...

by Bavafa on Mon Aug 29, 2011 03:01 PM PDT

If I were to use your own sets of standards, this would make you a LIAR by insinuating that I have made such claim "Bavafa Knows more about the FBI than FBI Officials!!!!!!!!"

But I won't sink myself that low.

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You actually did sink very low and did describe my words a LIE. Either you are really ignorant and do not understand words or you do know and your main goal is to insult and throw mud at me. Shame on you.  Stop using insults and personal attacks.

Civil Liberties 101 again: It's fraud again

When people are manipulated under false pretences, yes, even if and when expenses are paid for and especially so, it still constitutes fraud under false pretences. 

Really isn't difficult to grasp. 

MK aziz: The shame clearly belongs to you

As I never accessed you of lying, I merely reminded you that if I was going to use YOUR set of standards for calling people a lair, your false insinuation which you ignored clearly fit that set of standard as you have done here

So again, as you accuse others for not reading before responding, you may want to take a note out of that advice. 

Happy de-listing

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

Gol bood beh sabzeh arasteh shod

by Disenchanted on Mon Aug 29, 2011 03:48 PM PDT

       as opposed to the other way around!

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Disenchanted knows more about politics than those with Ph.D. in political science, more about such issues than those who have written theses on such issues, and knows more about US law and criteria to be de-listed than the FBI.

Now that's funny! I mean not just ordinary funny! Crazy funny..

   Here is what MK just wrote:

    "Baz ham 100 rahmat beh Jomhuri Islami, their apartheid only divided the people into khodi and gheireh khodi"

      This from someone who wrote one whole blog dividing everyone to some preposterous groups. LOL!

      Did someone mentioned McCarthyism on IC somewhere?! :-)

Well, in case of MEK, frankly FBI has to come to us for insight

       as opposed to the other way around!

By the way didn't MK suggested the idea that NIAC's head is getting paid by CIA?! Forgive me professor but you left me all confused here! So let's see. FBI head supports MEK. While CIA is paying NIAC that opposed MEK like there is no tomorrow! Hum...

      May be I should get one of those Poli Sci degrees after all! :-)

Lessons Learned

Disenchanted on Mon Aug 29, 2011 02:50 PM PDT

Also:

In case some true Iranians are left on Iranian.com I'd like to point out a not so subtle difference between US government interests and that of Iranian people. It does not take a PhD in political science or a thesis on democracy to figure that out!

Infact there is all the indication that having one of those degrees is an impediment to grasp of such basic matters!

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Lesson 1: Ph.D. in political science and a thesis on democracy are impediments to grasp of basic matters. For Disenchanted, those who have NOT studied political science and those who have not written thesis of democracy know more about these basic matters.

Lesson 2: Disenchanted is the judge of who is true Iranian and who is a non-true Iranian. Baz ham 100 rahmat beh Jomhuri Islami, their apartheid only divided the people into khodi and gheireh khodi, but does not go so far as making the gheireh khodi non-true Iranians.......

B/M

B/M:

However please tell us, do you accept FBI as a credible source or not? Because, first you brought us a news from Fox News trying to discredit the FBI report. And now you are using a FBI agent to make your Fox news credible. Isn't that the type of double standard that you were complaining to Souri Khanom?

MK: You asserted there is a credibility issue of Fox News vs. FBI. Your assertion was false. In all likelihood, you did not even bother to read the article. The article published in the Fox News site is authored by a top official of the FBI. The FBI official has studied the so-called "FBI Report" which has been used by Trita Parsi and other NIACis. The former FBI official dismisses the that to be an "FBI Report." Therefore, there was no dichotomy between the FBI and the Fox News. YOU in error asserted a false dichotomy. I posted the bio of the author of the article which proves that your false dichotomy was in fact a false dichotomy. The former FBI official publishes his finding in the Fox News site casting doubt on the so-called "FBI Report," and then analyzes the publication and dismisses Trita Parsi’s characterization of it.

In sum, the posts clearly indicates that the actual former FBI official published an article in FOX stating that according to his analysis of the so-called "FBI Report," that report is no FBI Report.

There is no double-standard. No lying. What I presented is a logical refutation of your non-sense.

If you did read the report, then you obviously did not understand anything in it. If you did not even bother to read the article, then it shows that all you are interested is throwing personal insults (LYING) at me. Shame on you.

Instead of throwing insults, read and think what is provided here. 

Masoud

And how much exactly Louis Freeh charged

For his attendence and support for MEK along with Howard Dean, Tom Ridge and Rudy Giuliani?

I have hunch it is more then these folks have got which is food and a bus ticket.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

MEK DELISTING

is only happening because they need rebels and foot soldiers and assholes to do their dirty job on the Iranian soil once the war starts ..... No one can shoot both the innocents and guilty at the same time better than MEK  and does not mind to blow himself up either.  NO ONE 

I do not blame that poor old church lady who fell for ALi-Baba , she has no idea but what about our own political science professor here who does not want to see what this American democracy is all about?  

And quite frankly Massud Agha I am not sure how long more we have to sit in your classroom and hear your lectures ... when this damn bell is going to ring?  we all need a break ...  

MK aziz: Please keep in mind...

If I were to use your own sets of standards, this would make you a LIAR by insinuating that I have made such claim "Bavafa Knows more about the FBI than FBI Officials!!!!!!!!"

But I won't sink myself that low.

However please tell us, do you accept FBI as a credible source or not? Because, first you brought us a news from Fox News trying to discredit the FBI report. And now you are using a FBI agent to make your Fox news credible. Isn't that the type of double standard that you were complaining to Souri Khanom?

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

FOX news supports MEK. I rest my case! :-)

     Also:

     In case some true Iranians are left on Iranian.com I'd like to point out a not so subtle difference between US government interests and that of Iranian people. It does not take a PhD in political science or a thesis on democracy to figure that out!

      Infact there is all the indication that having one of those degrees is an impediment to grasp of such basic matters!

Former FBI Director on the De-listing

Louis Freeh, Former Director of the F.B.I., U.S. District Judge:

“With respect to the designation of the MEK… I was not consulted in 1997, that the Department of State had listed the MEK . . . . In 1997, the government of Iranduped the U.S.government by inducing it to list the MEK as a foreign terrorist organization, without consulting the FBI… We now have in this new administration the opportunity to do the right thing, but it should be now . . . . The delisting has to immediately take place.” London, February 14, 2011

Bavafa Knows more about the FBI than FBI Officials!!!!!!!!

Richard R. Schoeberl has over 16 years of counterintelligence, terrorism, and law enforcement experience. Mr. Schoeberl is a retired Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agent where his experience ranged from service as a field agent to leadership responsibilities in executive positions at FBI Headquarters and the National Counterterrorism Center where he provided oversight to the United States international counterterrorism effort. Mr. Schoeberl held collateral duties in the FBI as an FBI Certified Instructor and a member of the FBI SWAT (Special Weapons And Tactics) program

Therein lies the credibility of Faux news vs. FBI

As Roozbeh correctly advised ….

"Quoting Khomeine to attack MKO could prove to be highly counter productive"

Just the same as

Relaying on Fouxy organizations in making a case for MKO could prove to be highly counter productive.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

MUST read article

Trita Parsi and other NIACis (e.g., Ari) have been using a so-called "FBI Report" on the PMOI.  Read, an analysis on the so-called report:

//iranian.com/main/news/2011/08/29/its-time-lift-terror-tag-iranian-opposition-group-mek

video of the protest

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cB0LCSFSe4

Also

Wasn't MEK involved in bringing Khomeini to power in the first place?

A word of advice for regimi crowd

Quoting khomeini to attack MKO could prove to be highly counter productive!

And, 40 years ago, khomeini, before being "handpicked" by MI6, was sucking up to shah..... 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

ملا لغتي ! ياد سركرد بخير

Not 40 years ago. 30 years ago!

اقتصاد مال خره!

Emam Khomeini also predicted the recession, the credit crunch, the high tech bubble, the real estate collapse and Kim Kardashian getting married!

The dude was a genius!

MEK, the evil

Remeber Khomaini?. Remember when he said these ( the MEK) were the American agent. He said this some 40 years ago when MEK were accusing IR to be  pro-America. Amazing what he could see which we could not. When MEK were protending to be hard enemies of the Americans, he ( Khomaini) warrned us all, and said that they ( MEK) were American agents. Now some 40 years later no one can have any doubt. What a great man he was.

G Rahmanian

Thank you for your post. However, even though I am not a supporter of the MEK I am not going to let pro-NIAC (Islamic Republic apologists) to have a field day attacking given their shoddy background. 

NIAC and the Iranian mentality love it when they have an honoury white guy deliver a speach endorsing their positions and there seems to be more anger vented at African Americans joining the MEK protests than politicians such as John Bolton and Giuliani singing their praises.

What does that 'Siah pust'  (please excuse the deregatory tem) know about Iran? Maybe he doesn't know that much but knows enough that the IR Terror regime is killing 8 people per hour and wants to do something. I praise the Afircan American who takes an interest in Iran and feels he wants to do something to help although he may have chosen the wrong crownd to get involved with. 

We Iranians always poke our nose in the Palestinian-Israeli issue and the Evil Terror Regime does not help by supporting Hezbollah and Hamas so why the outrage? Pure hypocricy.

However, take a look at this link to a NIAC meeting and see  (//www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/niac/NIAC_Minutes_112602.pdf)

and see how many white Americans are invited to give opening speach. What flattery NIAC must be feeling! An American farangi  endorses us! We are sooooooooooooooooooo sophisticated! 

@ amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

They're not partnering with just any churches; MEK is specifically partnering with a group called "The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews" ... the members get emails on how they can "support" Israel.   

See it for yourself:

//www.facebook.com/FellowshipFan 

Simorgh:

Very intelligent observations! The problem is that NIAC Cultists and IR paid agents are united to promote IR's agenda. These agents attack anyone who opposes the regime. One day it is PMOI, the next day It is the Monarchists and then another day it is JM or other groups or individuals. Unfortunately, some in the opposition don't seem to understand the very simple fact that this is neither the time nor the place to settle their decades-old differences. This is not about PMOI, Monarchists or JM or other organizations. It is about uniting and freeing Iran and saving it from disintegration or total destruction in the hands of the murderous Islamists.

Did You Miss This One?

Funny? Laugh as hard as you can because soon you'll be mourning the demise of your beloved IR!!!

Think progress video

Rent-a-Mob anyone?

Madam Hillary's state department lists  IRI as a sponser of terrorism and  MEK as foreign terrorist group.I wonder why!. What is in these two groups' dossiers that makes them deserving of the lable "terrorist"?. I should go check the state department's daily briefings. May be I'll get a clue.

You see that often around here ...

 This gets my vote for the funnies comment of the week. by Bavafa on Sun Aug 28, 2011 09:06 PM PDT

"Fake Video Ordered By IR agents!"

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Fake Video!

by G. Rahmanian on Sun Aug 28, 2011 07:49 PM PDT

Fake Video Ordered By IR agents!

Thousands of Europeans

Thousands of Europeans express their solidarity for the people of Tibet and not all of them are properly informed of the situation in Tibet. This does not stop them from protesting against China. But the 'black guy', huh, what does he know?