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ننه دلاورهاي صلح طلب؟

But these groups claim to be promoting peace through dialogue with one of the worst and most isolated dictatorial regimes in human history!

Iranians Paid to Join Pro-IRI Groups

Bad Stories for Bad Kids

Iq'tisaad maale khara

Dear Faramarz

Thanks for the chuckel.

Imam Khomeini and his acolyte Masoud Rajavi were bosom buddies at the beginning, helping each other hunt down and liquidate the Shah's boys.

When it came time to share the spoils of revolution with Rajavi there  to collect his promised share-or as B/MK might say; to demand establishment of freedom and democracy-the old man flipped him the  bird or as our Islamist friend have said; accused Rajavi of being a US spy. LOL.  Yellow dog and Jackle.

Expensive Sandis

ساندیس:  ۱۵۰-۲۰۰ ریال

بلیت هواپیما: ۲۵۰-۳۰۰ دلار

Bavafa:

Maybe you're not a liar, after all. Maybe you're just forgetful or have a selective memory. This happens even to the best of human beings. That is life!

Before Or After!

Agreed! But let's debate whether PMOI leaders should be hanged before or after the trial!

Jenabe Rahmanian, please don't flatter yourself

You may have completely got me wrong with another person as I don't recall any debate with you and with the type of comments such as you have made here, I certainly and positively will not engage in a debate and will ignore you.

Now as to personal insult by calling me a "habitual liar"… do I need to say more why I will ignore you?

Feel free to rant as much as you want -- all will be ignored

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

Iranians Overwhelmingly Hate MEK

... The Diaspora groups should sign a petition to prosecute MEK.  That way they will know that no matter who is in government in Iran their cause is a failed one.

Dear G. Rahmanian

Dear G. Rahmanian,

I believe in standing up to bullies. These bullies want to intimidate others into silence. Someone has to stand up to them. Why not me?

Throwing insults and personal attacks at logical arguments and documents is like throwing mud at diamond. Thoughtful reader can discern the difference between insults and logical arguments. There is a huge difference between personal attacks and document. I am confident that the thoughtful readers can judge.

I do appreciate your thoughtful comments and support.

Best regards,

Masoud

Bavafa:

As I have said, enjoy the laugh while it lasts because the demise of your beloved IR is at hand! And as for being a liar that some people have called you I only say this to you: those who have been following the IC threads may remember that you and a few others tried to start your kind of "debate" with me and I refused to get into on-going "debates" with the likes of you simply because I had observed your style on IC. Now, you have said YOU ignored ME!!! that is a big lie and you are a habitual liar, Miss!

Souri khanom, I believe you are correct

I had gone thru this road once before and it was the same as this time, a dead end.

So I will take your advise and will thru in the towel once more.

Ba sepas

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

Dear Bavafa, please ignore

Cool down, dear.

The best response to this kind of endless debates, is just to ignore the people who are looking for a fight to get the attention of the readers!

 You have already said all that you had to say.... many of us did it!

Now is the time to move on other topics. There  are much more interesting topics than this  terrorist group's civil liberty!

Everybody gave their opinions at this day.

The rest.....belongs to the NO Comment files!

جمال side kick رو خوش است!!!

I am still enjoying your wisdom here

"Fake Video Ordered By IR agents!" 

I mean it cant' get better then that!

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

MK: show me where I have attacked you or insulted you

In which way that you did not attack or insult me first? You lowered yourself when you called me a lair.

I never took you putting my name as a NIAC supporter as an insult. I have supported some of their initiatives and rather proud of that and their accomplishments. Each time they take a cause that is important to me, I happily donate to them.

But you as a professor who has often been putting others down for lack of basic knowledge surely ought to know that calling some one an "IRI Ministry of Intelligence and IRGC" or "Loose canon" is an insult. If you don't know that, perhaps you should not preach to others about their lack of basic knowledge and take a course in human decency.

What is amazing yet consistent in all of this, your adamant refusal to accept things and possibly trying to correct and apologies where you might have gone wrong. This is the main difference between a person who thru misunderstanding or paraphrasing says some thing that is not 100% accurate yet gladly corrects it and another person that jumps thru hoops to justify his assertions.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

Dr. Kazemzadeh:

How can you deal with a bunch of NIAC Cultists who would go up the wall when you say something negative about IR? Old age and high blood pressure are taking their toll on these members of NIAC-IR unholy alliance!

Bavafa Jaan, Amen to that!

by Bavafa on Mon Aug 29, 2011 04:42 PM PDT do we as Iranians need FBI, Faux news or Giuliani to tell us about MEK, its past and present and its betrayal to our mother land? "

            TO ALL THOSE SCHOLARS HARD AT RESEARCH: IT'S THAT SIMPLE!

Mehrdad

Not really: "aancheh ayaan ast, cheh haajat be bayaan ast".

But, we have paid our tution for the "WTF-101 course", and we have to have proper referencing to get a good grade, or else.

No. But when they don't, be certain they hide other groups.

" by Bavafa on Mon Aug 29, 2011 04:42 PM PDT do we as Iranians need FBI, Faux news or Giuliani to tell us about MEK, its past and present and its betrayal to our mother land? "

B/M

B/M,

Is it an insult to say that you support NIAC??????????? You have been attacking me and insulting me. Instead of lowering myself to your level, I placed you as a supporter of NIAC.

:-)

MK

Dear MM: But all of those sources got it wrong!!!!!!!

You don't believe me, go and read Faux news or just watch MEK TV program.

On the serious note, for crying out loud, do we as Iranians need FBI, Faux news or Giuliani to tell us about MEK, its past and present and its betrayal to our mother land?

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

basic explanations

Disenchanted,

Let me explain this for you, so hopefully you understand the basic stuff.

Apartheid in racist South Africa, like the khodi and gheireh khodi in the terrorist regime, like you deciding who is true and who is non-true Iranian are horrible.

But saying that Nelson Mandela was a member or leader of ANC, and F. W. De Klerk was the leader in the regime, or that Khamenei is hard-liner and Khatami is a reformist, and AmirEntezam is a democrat, and Reza Pahlavi is monarchists, or on this site so and so is a supporter of NIAC, and so and so is a democrat or monarchists is fine (along with the humor and teasing and getting back at those who had been insulting me).

If you do not understand the difference, well, I cannot help you much.

MK

Up to date, UNHCR stands by its report

Up to this date, UNHCR (the UN High Commission on Refugees) stands by its report. 

The RANT report in the following section was modified: Instead of 70% trapped in camp Ashraf, up to 70%.......

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 BTW, here are the people who wrote the RAND report, vs/ the spinsters who spum the rebuttals.

* The research described in this report was prepared for the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD). The research was conducted in the RAND National Defense Research Institute, a federally funded research and development center sponsored by the OSD, the Joint Staff, the Unified Combatant Commands, the Department of the Navy, the Marine Corps, the defense agencies, and the defense Intelligence Community.

* This report is part of the RAND Corporation monograph series. RAND monographs present major research findings that address the challenges facing the public and private sectors. All RAND monographs undergo rigorous peer review to ensure high standards for research quality and objectivity.

* The RAND Corporation is a nonprofit institution that helps improve policy and decisionmaking through research and analysis. RAND's publications do not necessarily reflect the opinions of its research clients and sponsors.

Yes, I also condemn the insult and use of personal attack

But I also strongly condemn those who rent themselves for their name and presence to be used in a political scheme such as we see here or in the EU gathering or here

Here is link to a whole blog that was designed with personal attack in mind.

//iranian.com/main/blog/masoud-kazemzadeh/who-s-who-among-ic-posters

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

"Funniest Joke Award" of the day:

         Drum Roll....and the funniest joke award goes too: MK! :-)

         Here it what he said:     

  MK :"Baz ham 100 rahmat beh Jomhuri Islami, their apartheid only divided the people into khodi and gheireh khodi"

      This from someone who wrote one whole blog just last week dividing everyone to some preposterous groups.

       Also he gets the "Golden Irony" prize for his statement!

         Just a note that yesterday "funniest joke" award went to his "side kick" G Rahmanian for suggesting that MEK video was made by IRI!

Other reports

I have NOT read these.  They are posted on the site:

//www.delistmek.com/

On "debunking" the RAND report: 

//www.executiveaction.com/files/RANDREPORT.pdf

on "debunking" the HRW report:

//www.delistmek.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/EPReportonHRWAllegations.pdf

The one's you make without factual substantiation?

I Condemn the Insult and Personal Attack

by Masoud Kazemzadeh on Mon Aug 29, 2011 04:15 PM PDT

I Condemn the Insult and Personal Attack

by Bavafa on Mon Aug 29, 2011 04:13 PM PDT

The contribution is a fine compliment to the above video and the scheme by which the poor and uninformed are RENTED for the rally. We also know for a FACT that many us politicians were also RENTED in various EU gatherings to voice their support for MEK and their de-listing. One just wonders how many others are RENTED to fight hard for the MEK de-listing.

Mehrdad

According to MJ Rosenberg and NYT report, depending on the person, they get as high as $100,000 for their MEK-support speeches.  hmmmmm.  That is awefully tempting, isn't it?

Assuming that the 2004 FBI report is full of it (wtf?), then there is the RAND report (//www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/monographs/2009/RAND_MG871.pdf).  Let's say that for some reason, the universities rise up against the latter two reports, then there is the Human Rights Watch report from the UN High Comminion on Refugees (//www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/refworld/rwmainpageprintdoc&docid=45d085002) to describe what kind of people we are dealing with.

But, keep in mind that nothing may be good enough for some Faux News academicians.

I wrote the "Iranian-McCarthyism" blog

" by Disenchanted on Mon Aug 29, 2011 03:55 PM PDT Did someone mentioned McCarthyism on IC somewhere?!"

//iranian.com/main/blog/boosboos/iranian-mccarthyism-spies-house-love      

With MK contributions, this thread only gets better

The contribution is a fine compliment to the above video and the scheme by which the poor and uninformed are RENTED for the rally. We also know for a FACT that many us politicians were also RENTED in various EU gatherings to voice their support for MEK and their de-listing. One just wonders how many others are RENTED to fight hard for the MEK de-listing.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad