I believe in Dog

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I believe in Dog
by Saul Friedman
22-Oct-2010
 

Most of us have been taught to stay away from discussing politics and religion, so as not to disturb the dinner guests. Well, as most of you know, I've been covering politics for so long I can barely discuss anything else. And the freedom Time Goes By gives me in writing these little essays compels me to confess that I do not recall when it was that I came out of the closet. That's when I acknowledged that I'm an atheist, that I do not believe there is a God.

In fact I don't know why I capitalized the "G." Although it may be blasphemous, I have had a bumper sticker that says, "I believe in Dog." That's because I have a love affair with my two Corgis, and I generally have a higher regard for animals than many of the humans I've covered in high positions. I have wondered if the Bibles got it wrong and meant to spell it "Dog."

Seriously, coming out of the closet happened slowly. At first I suppose I was an agnostic, telling myself and others that there may be a higher power, that I could not define, for all things alive have in common a compulsion to live, survive, and grow. Where does that come from? I didn't know. I studied philosophy in university and read Aquinas' proofs for the existence of god, and understood Aristotle's idea of the "prime" or "unmoved mover." I did not know whether or not I believed in the god that hung around guiding our lives. But I could not bring myself to believe in a personal being who played magic tricks like George Burns. If man was made in his image, what must he look like? Or she.

I am told by friends that something or someone must have caused the "Big Bang," and that somebody or something or power had to be there to start things off in evolution. But I can't even imagine that possibility. Some giant hand cranking the universe into motion? I remember arguing in a philosophy class that if the universe were infinite, why did it have to have a beginning? I did not know, but neither does anyone else. But that was an agnostic cop out. Now I know; As Stephen Hawking now asserts, if there was a beginning, there is an explanation that did not need a god.

But isn't the spirituality that we all feel evidence of god? Experiencing the sublime is spiritual, but it's no proof of a god. All of us have experienced spiritual moments when we wonder what moves us to think, probe, and overcome. Music moves me. Van Gogh's "Starry Night" is spiritual and beautiful. Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" can make me cry. All men are brothers came from the Judaic concept that there is but one god. I am a Jew who takes pride in that heritage. But I cannot believe that god, looking like Charlton Heston's Moses, exists.

It is true that there is some sort of order in our universe; we can predict the movements in the solar system. But there is also chaos (see Haiti). Our bodies, the results of millions of years of evolution, are indeed wondrous, but they tend to get sick and even die from little bugs and terrible afflictions. The believers' god works in strange and mysterious ways, but what sort of omnipotent, omniscient god tolerates a child with terminal leukemia, or the holocaust of six million "chosen people" or the genocides in Bosnia and the Congo and the Sudan? Believers praise god for sparing them from the tornado's wrath (as if the tornado was anthropomorphic), but do they blame god for the deaths of those who were not spared.?

But I have digressed. I have been comforted in coming out as an atheist by the Sept. 28 Pew Research Center's survey of religious knowledge in the U.S. It turns out that atheists or agnostics scored highest on a test consisting of questions about various religions. I should note here that 95 percent of Americans believe in god; just five percent of us are nonbelievers. Jews and Mormons came in a close second or third. Indeed, the most observant or fundamentalist among us tended to know the least. Half the respondents did not know that Martin Luther inspired the Protestant reformation, or that the Golden Rule ("Do unto others...") is not one of the Ten Commandments. Atheists/agnostics knew most about religion, the survey concluded, because they tend to have more education.

I would add that atheists are unencumbered by dogma. Atheists generally are more free to think of things that no one had thought of. Copernicus, Galileo, Darwin and Einstein broke free from god and religion, and some suffered for it. Only recently has the Catholic Church recognized that the earth revolves around the sun; and Judaism forgave the philosopher Spinoza, who was excommunicated from the Jewish community in Amsterdam because he believed that god was everywhere in nature; indeed god was nature and vice versa. Oddly, the Pew people had separate categories for Jews and theists as if one can't be both; I'm with Spinoza.

I should point out here that I draw a distinction -- a sharp one at that -- between those who worship and hope there is a god, and organized religion. That's because the average believer in god stands in awe of the possibility there is a supreme being that he or she cannot know or fathom. But most organized religions have the temerity to define, limit and tell us what god thinks, and which country he/she will bless in war. Organized religions, on a personal level uses books written eons ago by uneducated (by our standards), mostly superstitious and primitive minds to tell us how to behave. And as we know, some people believe these are literal truths. I can't quarrel with the Ten Commandments, but they are honored in the breach, that is, they are broken so often by god-fearing men and women, they are not to be taken seriously.

If they were truly observed as the Bible and Quran admonish, the New York Times' Nicholas Kristof told us in his own test of religious knowledge that the Old Testament stipulates that a girl who does not bleed on her wedding night should be stoned to death. Kristof notes that Jesus made no comment on homosexuality, but the Old Testament says "if a man also lies with mankind as he lieth with a woman" both shall be put to death. All this is silly and outdated for most of us, even those who believe in god.

But for about 20-25 percent, who are fundamentalist Christians or if they are ultra-orthodox Jews and Muslims, they believe their scriptures are literally true and the word of god. But, alas, they also believe literally that nonbelievers are infidels and therefore a threat. And if there is no wall of separation between the religion and the state, then a threat against the religion becomes a threat against the state.

When I visited Israel as a journalist with U.S. secretaries of state who were there for the first time, Israeli officials took us on a tour of Yad Vashem, the somber and heartwrenching memorial to the Holocaust that cost the lives of six million Jews, not to mention gypsies, Russians, Poles and anti-Nazi Germans. In Damascus we were taken to the mosque where Saladin is buried, and there we learned that the crusaders who came from England were not the heroes of Christendom who we studied in school or saw in romantic movies, but bloodthirsty rapists and conquerors wielding the cross as a reason to slaughter Muslims and Jews. Saladin, a moderate and even chivalrous ruler who treated his captives well, at last defeated the Third Crusade in the 12th century. But the memory of the crusades among Muslims lingers and has been seen in the reaction to American aggression in the Middle East.

Indeed, as I think on it, much of my reporting has been about religious-based conflicts, between -- Hindus and Muslims in India and Pakistan, the semi-secular state of Afghanistan and the Taliban, which would resurrect the 10th century, the Shiites of Iran and the Sunnis of Iraq, Israel and its Muslim neighbors, some of them secular like the Palestinians, some deeply religious like Hamas, the Protestants and Catholics of Northern Ireland; the Serbian war against Bosnia pitted Catholics against Muslims; Hitler was Catholic, raised in an anti-Semitic environment; Stalin was raised in the Russian Orthodox tradition and he attended seminary, from which he was expelled, in backward Georgia.

It seems the more devout the religion, the more violent its actions against its perceived enemies. Kristof points out that using suicide vests and women for terror bombings began, not with the jihadists, but with the Tamil Hindus in Sri Lanka. I think it can be said that more people have been killed or subjugated in the name of an organized religion than in the name of atheism. When the state religion or church has been attacked, the motives of the opposition were generally political, as when Henry VIII and his daughter Elizabeth replaced the Catholic Church, with the Church of England; and when the Bolsheviks who overthrew the Czar and all but outlawed the Russian Orthodox Church that supported the monarchy. Similarly, the reactionary and corrupt Catholic Church in Latin America became a target of revolutionaries. Wasn't the attack on the World Trade Center and the deaths of thousands a religion-based initiative? I do not believe, however, that any nation has gone to war or committed atrocities in the name of atheism.

Yet even now, in this country, the legal wall of separation between church and state is hacked at by religionists who hold atheism almost a crime. We are told by the rabid right that liberals and other nonbelievers are trying to kill Christmas, as if the merchandisers have no responsibility. These Christian fundamentalists, the American Taliban, would figuratively stone the homosexual or the kill the doctor who performs abortions. One Pew poll in 2006 found that more than 40 percent of Americans don't believe in evolution and that included prominent Republicans running for president two years ago. These fundamentalists, according to the poll, deny the science that tells us the earth is millions of years old. In lockstep with the Republican Party they deny climate change and man's role in global warming. I suppose god has decided to kill the polar bears.

So it was a comfort to see that I had admirable company when I came out as an atheist: Woody Allen, Kurt Vonnegut, Richard Dawkins, Katharine Hepburn, Warren Buffett, Salman Rushdie, Diane Keaton, Bill Gates, Gene Roddenberry, among dozens of celebrities who you can find at www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Main_Page.

Finally, there are many quotes from prominent writers, artists and statesmen, proclaiming their atheism, but my favorite came recently from the great novelist Philip Roth during an interview on CBS' Sunday Morning. Roth, who grew up in New Jersey, said, "I don't have a religious bone in my body." "So do you feel like there's a god out there?" he was asked.

"I'm afraid there isn't, no... When the whole world doesn't believe in god, it'll be a great place."

First published in HuffingtonPost.com.

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Friedman also writes for www.timegoesby.net. Follow him on Twitter: www.twitter.com/saulfriedman

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mimi.shishi

THEISTS MOST FAMOUS EXCUSE FOR CENSORSHIP:

by mimi.shishi on

WHAT YOU SAID IS OFFENSIVE!!

*BY THAT THEY WANT TO DISREGARD ALL CRITICISM  OF THEIR BELIEF.

 *'OFFENSIVE' IS SUCH A BROAD TERM, IT MAY APPLY TO ANY ACTION OR WORD, DEFINE OFFENSIVE I ALWAYS TELL THEM...

ATHEISTS DO NOT WANT TO BE OFFENSIVE, THEY ARE SIMPLY PROJECTING THE TRUTH AND SPREADING IT. IF HEARING THE TRUTH MAKES YOU OFFENDED FOR YOUR BELIEF, THERE MUST BE SOMETHING WRONG IN YOUR BELIEF TO BEGIN WITH.


Ali P.

2 kinds

by Ali P. on

An atheist could be one, who affirmitively denies the existance of God,

or,

someone, in whom the belief in a concept of God, merely does not exist.


Escape

Fidelio.  As an Atheist, I

by Escape on

Fidelio.
 As an Atheist, I make no Fantastic (I mean that in the sense of Fantasy), claim

You are making the same claim as someone who claims they believe in God.Only you are claiming you don't.

And you're being prejudicial about by saying it needs only to be proven by believer's.

Therefore, the burden of proof is not on me nor on any Atheist. The burden is on the believer.

Yes it is also on the Non believer to prove what they claim when they label themselves as Athiest and jump into the conversation..You are right,credibility does go a long way.Prove their isn't a God first before claiming it's some sort of Fantasy.Prove your opinion first before acting like it has been..The article is nothing but a rant against organized religion coupled with insult to those who believe in god.By the way,can you prove that you are an Atheist also? No you cannot.

No 'Tangible' God would anyone would believe in.Tangible as in if God were to be seen at the movies,or who's fingerprints were found in Antarica or who's traces of DNA were found in Egypt or some simple earthly process so stupid human's could comprehend.

GOD Bless Atheists? I know this is a sort of neutral inneundo and I do laugh.But I have made this point and this article has the same problem,that is,God is not Man and what Men believe.

I find no sense in claiming you are an Atheist then reading paragraph after paragraph of criticism of organized Religion.What is the point? How does that make you an Atheist? How does other's people's belief in God affect your's?

men believe wrongly about God (which I believe Islam does) and men do horrible things in the name of God and Religion as they do in Iran,don't let that affect your belief in God.God didn't do it.Men did.

No Man or religion will ever come between God and Myself.Quite simply,I don't believe in peer pressure to believe or disbelieve.Atheism is quite a dogmatic socialization in this way. There have been quite a few insulting comments here I've passed on.The last memorable one for me is  'All religious people suck' by statira recently.They go by,nobody says anything.It is indeed becoming Dogmatic.

You will not know until you die.(I have a personal belief that inside you consciously do know and are denying it,many time's in the case of pleading for attention.)

But If you are an Atheist and are right,who cares.It's meaningless..It no loss to me as a believer.

If you're truly an Atheist,you don't care what other's believe because it is of no importance to an Atheist..You simply want to demean other's for what you see as a stupid baseless belief in God.I have not made any point's to disprove you,I have only pointed it out.

But many point's have been made by Religious people and I believe each individual on this earth has their own personal experience's to believe.

 

 

 


bushtheliberator

Praise the Lord ! Palin sends non-believers to re-education camp

by bushtheliberator on

Save a noxious few,even our whackiest Christian Fundies cause me more amusement than consternation,but I admit,again, to the guilty pleasure of enjoying the Christian Right's ability to strike fear into the hearts of Lefties.

   Will you pray with me now, that you be spared your worse imagined horrors in the looming rise of the Christian Right. ?


Princess

Excellently put!

by Princess on

As a non-atheist, I would like to thank you for this great article. I could not have said it any better:

"I could not bring myself to believe in a personal being who played magic tricks like George Burns."

or

"It turns out that atheists or agnostics scored highest on a test consisting of questions about various religions."

or

"But most organized religions have the temerity to define, limit and tell us what god thinks, and which country he/she will bless in war. Organized religions, on a personal level uses books written eons ago by uneducated (by our standards), mostly superstitious and primitive minds to tell us how to behave. And as we know, some people believe these are literal truths."

or

"Indeed, as I think on it, much of my reporting has been about religious-based conflicts, between -- Hindus and Muslims in India and Pakistan, the semi-secular state of Afghanistan and the Taliban, which would resurrect the 10th century, the Shiites of Iran and the Sunnis of Iraq, Israel and its Muslim neighbors, some of them secular like the Palestinians, some deeply religious like Hamas, the Protestants and Catholics of Northern Ireland; the Serbian war against Bosnia pitted Catholics against Muslims; Hitler was Catholic, raised in an anti-Semitic environment; Stalin was raised in the Russian Orthodox tradition and he attended seminary, from which he was expelled, in backward Georgia."

or

"It seems the more devout the religion, the more violent its actions against its perceived enemies. Kristof points out that using suicide vests and women for terror bombings began, not with the jihadists, but with the Tamil Hindus in Sri Lanka. I think it can be said that more people have been killed or subjugated in the name of an organized religion than in the name of atheism. "

However, while no atheist has shed innocent blood in the name of atheism, I think if they are not careful they can become just as selfrigheous and dogmaitc as the religious crowd.


Fariba Amini

fantastic article...

by Fariba Amini on

fantastic article...


comrade

Almighty's Shock and awe

by comrade on

The age of creating the concept of God out of fear has long passed(well, sort of), today's God is made from man's wonder.

Never increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything.

 


persian westender

God knows who is right

by persian westender on


Believing in god originated from the fear- a primitive fear of unknowns and a profound need for protection. Because our knowledge of the world has been expanded, the environment has been changed and it is no more considered as threatening for human-being. In the meantime, the organized religions have thrived during the past centuries- mostly I think - due to the context which they provide for exploitation of people. So they are used as tools for authoritarian mindsets; the case we are witnessing in contemporary Iran.


The key element in atheism as fidelio pointed out, is its simplicity. It is not a sect or a belief. The disbelief is the belief and it comes among many other concepts one can have a belief to. It is not an ‘organized’ or ‘franchised’ belief, as is the case for religions (e.g. Religion is franchised spirituality!).

I think for a persons who raised in a "believer" environment, coming to term with atheist belief is a significant psychological process, and if still living in that environment; a courageous and admirable move.   

 


Niloufar Parsi

is it possible

by Niloufar Parsi on

to be religiously secular?!

let's toast to a future free of all gods, inshallah!

it's just that god is not tangible enough to believe in. no insult intended.


comrade

Religion of atheism

by comrade on

Smart sinners call themselves "agnostics", Just in case.

Never increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything.

 


Cost-of-Progress

George Carlin said it best:

by Cost-of-Progress on

“Religion has convinced us that there’s this invisible man in the sky who watches every little thing every one of us does every moment of our lives. This invisible man has a list of all the things you must not do, and, if you do any of them, he’ll send you to the bowels of a place where fire, torture and agony awaits you till eternity……………but he loves you.”  

Over and out,

CoP

 

____________

IRAN FIRST

____________


fidelio5

No Atheist

by fidelio5 on

can prove there is NO god. I say this as one. We CANNOT disprove the existence of god.

Nor can I disprove the existence of Unicorns.
That Doesn't mean they exist. (even though Unicorns are mentioned in the Bible several times! LOL!)

As an Atheist, I make no Fantastic (I mean that in the sense of Fantasy), claim. Therefore, the burden of proof is not on me nor on any Atheist. The burden is on the believer.

Aetheism is also NOT a dogma or a belief system IN ANY WAY. It is simply a statement of unbelief. Thats All.

You can be an Atheist and be many other things besides that (except a person of FAITH)

Faith is belief w/out evidence! That is the definition. Credulity is not a positive trait, in my opinion.

so Escape, you are right. Coming to a conclusion with out evidence IS FOOLISH.
I do no sunch thing.

Thank you for posting this article.


Jahanshah Javid

God bless aheists

by Jahanshah Javid on

Thank you Saul. Couldn't agree more. One point I would emphasize that dogma of any kind, religious is non, is bloody dangerous. To unequivocally believe in things you THINK is most destructive. Because Iranians happen to be ruled by a theocracy, religion has become more of an issue for them, especially as a political institution that justifies every crime in the name of god.

The disservice this Islamic Republic has done to religion and Islam in particular is profound. On the bright side, atheists have found their Hitler. Now when we want to give an example of how bad mixing religion and politics can be, we point to the Islamic Republic and people immediately understand.


Escape

Why don't you obnoxious atheist's

by Escape on

  Prove their is no God before you open your mouths act like your so right and know everything.

You can't prove there is not a God.

Therefore any conclusion elsewise - IS ONE OF A FOOL.

A insult deserves on back and quite frankly the atheist's on I.com have alot of insults to be returned to them.


Escape

I believe youre an itiot

by Escape on

and I have much more proof than any Atheist with a big mouth