Scholarly Mistakes

Should ISIS take sides?

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Scholarly Mistakes
by Fariba Amini
15-Mar-2010
 

On May 27, 2010, the International Society of Iranian Studies (ISIS) will hold its three-day biennial conference in Los Angeles, California. It is jam-packed with interesting panels. Scholars of Iran from around the world will be attending. But this time around there is a controversy brewing. It involves the attendance of a scholar from an Israeli university in the occupied territories. In the past, many scholars from different Israeli universities have attended and given papers at the conference. There has never been an objection. But this time, the matter is different.

Dr. M. Tavakoli Targhi, the current President of ISIS, has made a public statement in this regard in defense of this decision. The fact is that the person who may be attending the conference is from Ariel University of Samaria built in the West Bank, on a land illegally seized by the Israeli government. Its website states that : “As a demonstratively Zionist institution, the University Center has two key requirements: every student must study one course per semester on some aspect of Judaism, Jewish heritage or Land of Israel studies, and the Israeli flag must be displayed in every classroom, laboratory and auditorium on campus.”

There have been numerous petitions to the effect that ISIS should disinvite the scholar. Dozens of scholars from various universities, such as Noam Chomsky, Ervand Abrahamian, Mahmood Mamdani, Mohsen Kadivar, Nayereh Tohidi, and Stan Cohen have signed the petition. The ISIS is an independent entity and one may argue that preventing a scholar from attending the meeting is against any norm. However, the others argue that the person should not attend the panel based upon the location of the said University. Many governments and professors have criticized and boycotted this particular institution.

The institution’s history and its critics

According to a report in the Christian Science Monitor, “the Ariel College, or AUC, was established with a few hundred students in the mid-1990s, and today draws the vast majority of its students from inside Israel proper. Its leadership has ties to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud Party. The decision would make it the ninth university in Israel.”A harsh critic of the Israeli expansion and himself a British/Israeli professor, Haim Bereshit, slams Ehud Barak, suggesting that he “occupies additional territories and declares universities there as well.” “The most serious thing, which should not be seen as insignificant, is the fact that there is an educational institution in occupied territories," he said. "We in the British professors' organization have not waited and have worked even before this happened to include the Ariel College in the 'gray list', which does not allow academic institutions to have any ties with this institution. This is in fact a boycott process, although it is not defined as such due to the complexity of this matter." In 2009, The Spanish Housing Ministry disqualified Ariel University Center of Samaria from competing in the finals of an international competition declaring that "the decision was made by the Spanish government based on the fact that the university is located in occupied territory in the West Bank. The Spanish government is committed to uphold the international agreement under the framework of the European Union and the United Nations regarding this geographical area." Hussam Khader, a Palestinian legislator, said, "This means they consider Ariel and the West Bank as part of Israel.” He said that this proves that Israel has no intention of accepting the two State solution. Assaf Meydani, a lecturer at the Academic College of Tel Aviv-Jaffa’s school of government reiterated that this is a political statement which in essence means “we are here and we are going to stay here.” “It is as if confirming that “we are not afraid to say that we have a university in Judea and Samaria.” (The Biblical term for the West Bank)

Israel’s actions

There is no question that the Israeli government has in the past defied all UN resolutions, has gone ahead with its policy of settlements and has confiscated the land without any repercussions or mercy to the Palestinians. Many peace activists inside Israel are against the policies of their own government. The world can object but it does not matter. Israel does as it pleases. In fact, even when Vice President Joe Biden visited Israel recently, he was greeted with an announcement that more settlements were going to be built in East Jerusalem, a slap to Obama administration’s demand for a halt. Ariel College (now University) was built on Palestinian land in the West Bank. It is on occupied land, but the various governments in Israel and especially the government of Benjamin Netanyahu are not concerned about the fate of the Palestinians. This is true as well for the new mayor of Jerusalem who, according to a report in the NY Times, is trying to build a super park in a residential area of Jerusalem inhabited by its Arab residents, called Al- Boustan. The residents have already objected to this move. The Israeli-Palestinian crisis is an ongoing issue, one which no US administration so far has been able to find a solution or a resolution. In part, it is because Israel does not respect any international laws and acts according to its own volition. This was clearly demonstrated in the recent murder of a Hamas leader in Dubai.

What should ISIS do?

Now ISIS is faced with the most difficult decision. Should ISIS let this scholar attend on behalf of Ariel University or should it ask him to come as an independent scholar? Or should he not be allowed to attend at all? In many instances, scholars who have been critical of the policies of Israel have been harassed, labeled as anti-Semites and driven from their institutions. What should the ISIS do in this regard? Should it take sides? Should ISIS stand by its original decision or should it make this a matter of principle and make a political statement?

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wa kos khol.

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FYI

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by hamsade ghadimi on

ms. amini, i respect your humanitarian spirit and i wish there were palestinians out there who cared about iranians as much as you care about them.  and i wish they were as vocal as you are.  the seemingly arab commenters on this site only like to bang on the drum of khamenei's regime. 

is this the only university in the world that is practicing discrimination and should be disallowed in academic discourse with other institutions?  or your criterion is not about discrimination and about the location of the university?  because it would be odd for organizations to single out a university (as opposed to certain practices by a university) that would bar it from participating in their events.


aynak

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Also ... Pendant Ce Temps en Iran ...

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Chee Begham Deegheh ...

Iranian are Arabs, Arian is a myth created by Zionist

If this is not Nihilism and Self Denial imposed on us Iranians by our own Regime I wonder what is ? ...


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that is the Shiro Khorsheed Flag to replace the Arab Sickle they are loyal too. I may then and Only then sign their Petition ...

Until Then Personellement Je N'ai Rien à ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJvT-s4l8qw

But They are welcome to come and play Golf ... I mean Persian Golf :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N3SyyTVhIA

Happy Nowrooz Nevertheless !

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PS: I know your intentions are good Fariba Jaan I'm Less sure about those who signed the petition ! 

 


MRX1

re;Pan-Ommah lobster flag

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Fariba Amini

You are wrong, Mr (Ms.) Bibi

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Mr. Bibi Gol,

Either you don't read what I write or you simply try to ignore it.  I never said he should not be allowed to come.  And what does a person from an institution built on an illegally seized land has to do with stopping others (past colonizers or present ones) from attending the conference? !!  And where are the Dutch colonizing today? Maybe you can inform us, cause I am clueless.

I have no problem with the people of Israel, in fact, this internet journalist as you called me has written several articles on the people of Israel, please go read them.   Several attendees at this very conference are my friends who are Israelis (two are of Iranian descent).  

You are mixing the issues. The issue is this particular institution. That is all.  The scholar in question is welcome to come (of course the final decision is up to ISIS) if his affiliation is not mentioned. In fact, it would be interesting to hear what he has to say, having written on  Hojattieh. 

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You are also incorrect on who has signed the petition.  if you look at the signatures, half are of Jewish background.

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BTW, any relations to BIBI? you know Benjamin N. is also called Bibi !

 

 

 

 

 


SamSamIIII

re;Pan-Ommah lobster flag

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:), well it is the flag of choice for Qadesii cyber pimps. ain't it?

Once you go Qadess  you become shameless

Once you go Qadessi    jaakesheh har  naakasi

there I go again..;)

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BibiGol

Dear Ms. Amini, No one

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Dear Ms. Amini,

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Your point is well taken.  So we are talking about occupation.  Then why limit ourselves to Israel.  Isn't the US now occupying Iraq?  Haven't they done as much -- or some -- harm?  The issue of the 100,000 Iraqis who have died since the occupation should be addressed.  The insulting actions against the women, attacking houses in the middle of the night, killing people because of suspicion should be talked about.  Killing and then asking questions?  This brutality that is Iraq.

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 Is this really about Israel, Ms. Amini, or the people of Israel?


Nur-i-Azal

Pan-Ommah lobster flag?

by Nur-i-Azal on

LOL!

How did you come up with that one?

Ya NUR


SamSamIIII

Bravo Darius K

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Guess the national priorities are reversed when you commit to Pan-Ommah lobster flag.  Cheers patriot!!!

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  http://www.juancole.com

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capt_ayhab

my signature

by capt_ayhab on

University built on a stolen land.

Prior owners either slaughtered, displaced or somewhere in refugee camps.

Entire institution is illegal.

Entire faculty are working illegally in an illegally built building they chose to call UNIVERSITY.

This place is an utter shame to be called an university.

Dis-invite the so called scholar, he might as well go to work for IR, since there are no difference between occupying forces of Israel and criminal force of IR.

 

signature

-YT 

I am ashamed of being in the same profession as these guys who teach there in STOLEN property.


hamsade ghadimi

not right to disinvite

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apparently, this professor's research was worthy enough to be invited to the conference of this academic society.  they clearly state on their site, that their society is non-political.  therefore, i think that by their own standards, their hands are tied and isis cannot disinvite this person.  i don't think that should stop people like fariba amini or others to try to influence this society; however, i think that isis should clearly make changes in their mission statement and acceptance criteria before disinviting (or not inviting) qualified scholars.  if i was a member, i would not make this academic society into a political one.  therefore, i would honor this invitation.

as a compromise, perhaps in the future, isis can require that each conference attendee should be represented by the flag of the country or territory on which their institution is built.


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Who liberated the hebrews from Babylon and allowed the Jews to go to Israel and buil their temple.

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When did the Palestians ever feel sorry for Brave Iranian Officers executed by their own PLO mercenaries during the Islamic revolution ?

Arafat hailing the islamic revolution:

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Some In the Diaspora too want to interpret ALL our Persian Heritage and customs through the distorted spectrum of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict !

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Masgareh Va Ghan !

GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT !

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pictory: (SURPRISE) Shah and Sadat Pro Palestine Statement (1975)

ALL IS A QUESTION OF PRIORITY !

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Tah Key Meekha Heem Khodemoonoh Gool Bezaneem ?

Happy Chahar Shanbeh Soory To all Iranians regardless of faith and Race for what it's worth these days in the Islamic Republic represented by an ARAB Sickle Flag another concession to the Arab World at the expense of Our Iranian Heritage in the land of the Shahnameh and Shiro Khorsheed:

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Fariba Amini

First, I suggest to Bibi

by Fariba Amini on

First, I suggest to Bibi gol to tell us who she or he is ?

Second, I am not passing judgement on anybody or dictating to ISIS.  I am presenting some facts. 

third, FYI some members of ISIS and Dr. M. Tavakoli himself (who is by the way a friend) asked me to write an article a propos!  Do you know why? because people read what I write!

fourth, I may not be a "scholar" but I am a serious writer and journalist.  Many of my interviews and articles have been published and translated into Persian even in Iran!

Fifth, Ms. Bibi Gol, you seem to have a chip on your shoulders to judge me personally instead of looking at the facts presented to you.

Sixth, I am sorry, I will never go to Israel as long as the Palestinians are brutalized, their lands taken, their homes demolished, their women and children bombed (or did you already forget Gaza?) and as long as Israel does not recognize that they, the Palestinians need their own state and their own home so that they could build their universities, their institutions, their parks, their homes with gardens, their schools, their markets, their stores, their coffee shops, their restaurants, and.... or do you think they are subhuman and they don't deserve any of the above? 

Seventh,  this article merely states the facts and let's the reader make up his/her mind.  I have not passed judgement nor will I do that.  I do have my own opinion which is:

The scholar in question should attend without mentioning his affiliation.  After all, where is Samara and Judea on  the world map???


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Why I refuse to sign the statement

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

I welcome attendance of anyone who is invited. The best way to have understanding is though dialogue not through exclusion. Let him come and talk to him. Maybe he will learn something and maybe you will learn something.

In addition I have said many times before the Palestinian Israeli problem is not an Iranian problem. We should worry about our own issues and ONLY WHEN that is resolved we would deal with other things.

Our nation is being destroyed by Islamofacsists and you people are worried about Gaza or the West Bank? Shame on you and your upside down priorities. What kind of person would put their own nation behind other people! Sharm angiz ast.


Nur-i-Azal

Where is Juan Cole?

by Nur-i-Azal on

He hardly signs such petitions anymore? Why??

Ya NUR

 


dingo daddy En passant

This powerful petition should be read by all

by dingo daddy En passant on

 

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Society of Iranian Studies on "Ariel University of Samaria, Israel"

Dear Professor Sandler
Members of the Executive Committee
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We write to register our deep concern that during
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California, the International Society for Iranian Studies (ISIS) intends
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Martha MUNDY (London School of Economics, UK)
Marcy NEWMAN (Amman Al-Ahliyya University, JORDAN)
Gary Y. OKIHIRO (Columbia University, USA)
Jennifer OLMSTED (Drew University, USA)
Cecile PINEDA (San Diego State University, USA)
Gabriel PITERBERG (UCLA, USA)
Nicola PRATT (University of Warwick, UK)
Bruce ROBBINS (Columbia University, USA)
Lisa ROFEL (University of California, Santa Cruz, USA)
Jonathan ROSENHEAD (London School of Economics, UK)
Roshni RUSTOMJI-KERNS (Sonoma State University, USA)
Ahmad SADRI (Lake Forest College, USA)
Mahmoud SADRI (Texas Woman’s University, USA)
Mariam C. SAID (New York, USA)
George SALEM (University of Southern California, USA)
Vida SAMIIAN (California State University, Fresno, USA)
May SEIKALY (Wayne State University, USA)
Anton SHAMMAS (University of Michigan, USA)
Simona SHARONI (SUNY Plattsburgh, USA)
Magid SHIHADE (Lahore University, Pakistan)
James SCHAMUS (Columbia University, USA)
Yumna SIDDIQI (Middlebury College, USA)
Gayatri Chakravorty SPIVAK (Columbia University, USA)
Samir TARTIR (Philadelphia University, Jordan)
Ali TIZGHADAM (University of Toronto, CANADA)
Nayereh TOHIDI (California State University, Northridge, USA)
Corbin TREACY (University of Minnesota, USA)
Shouleh VATANABADI (New York, University, USA)
Patrick WILLIAMS (Nottingham Trent University, UK)
Howard WINANT (University of California, Santa Barbara, USA)
Patrick WOLFE (Harvard University, USA)
Sherifa ZUHUR (Institute of Middle Eastern, Islamic and Strategic
Studies, USA)


Nur-i-Azal

This is a tempest in a tea pot

by Nur-i-Azal on

Granted the Iranian studies scholarly community ought to take a decisive stand against Zionism (as well as with Islamism), but there  isn't an issue here to get all tied up in knots about, really. That this Israeli is being penalized for his institutional affiliation is a reverse kind of Neo-Con inspired kulturkampf that went on in North American universties and campuses during the Bush years, but now from liberals. As such it is  discrimination.  What about the guy's work, his scholarship and writings? Does that count for anything to the ISIS board, or is everything about politics with them?

Furthermore, at the annual MESA gatherings of the Middle East Studies Association of North America you have always had all kinds of unsavory politically-connected individuals attending and presenting papers there, like the devil himself, Bernard Lewis. Why should ISIS be different and why is it inserting itself into a political question it needs to stay above? It isn't as if this guy is personally responsible for any Israeli-Zionist policies in the West bank?

Iranians in North America, especially those in the academic world, are becoming as petty and small minded as ever. I am glad I am no longer connected with these people. Unless the guy is a dyed in the wool supporter of the Israeli government's policies in the area under question, he should be allowed to attend as an independent or  even as a full affiliate to the institution he belongs to. And I am saying this as one of the most dyed in the wool anti-Zionists there are!

This projects a terrible image of ISIS. Grow up, you people!

Ya NUR


dingo daddy En passant

Fariba makes a great and legitimate point

by dingo daddy En passant on

BibiGol, I'm not involved with ISIS. I don't even live in the states. You have to be blind not to notice the poor damage control job you are doing. You can't just tell people to "shut up, you're not a member", it makes ISIS appear petty. incapable of handling criticism. Is your point to make ISIS and Dr. Tavokoli appear like they are over-sensitive apologists for the Israeli extremists?  You have succeeded. An wonderful suggestion was made that his Zionist University not be honored. He can appear as independent. I like that option. ISIS members should do it.


BibiGol

ISIS and Israeli scholars

by BibiGol on

First, Ms. Amini is not a member of ISIS and has no right to dictate to this society what to do.  The by lines of ISIS clearly leave that decision to its members.  This goes for many of the people who have signed the petition.

Second, Ms. Amini is not a scholar, but only an internet "journalist".  I suggest she not make decisions about academia.

 Third, the charter of ISIS clearly states that it is not a political entity and should not get involved in such matters.  As such, it is not up to Ms. Amini to dictate to the Society what to do.

 Fourth quoting the Spanish is a joke.  They still have the blood of the tens of thousands they killed in the name of religion.

Fifth, Ms. Amini, a journalist who refuses to go to Israel and see things first hand, should try to do some first hand "journalism" and see for herself how many Palestinian students are educated by the Israeli universities in general and this one in particular.

Sixth, Dr. Tavakoli, the current president of the Society has made no comment "in support" of this decision.  I suggest you read your sources beforehand.

All this said, the first thing one should look at before making such rash decision is what the position of this particular Israeli scholar is.  Every person can have his/her own opinion independent of his/her government.  I would hate to see Mrs. Shirin Ebady, Iran's Nobel Peace Laureate, being banned by American universities, because many of us do not like the policies of Iranian government, occupied territories or not.  I see no difference between the two.  Should Columbia University have not accepted Alexadre Solzhenitsin to teach there?  If Britain and British universities adopted such a policiy a few years ago, it was -- and is -- because many of their schools are now being supported by Arabs, whose benefits in many ways depend on adding to this fire in the Middle East.  The Brits have to bow to those who "pay their salaries".  We don't.

I for one would like to hear what this person has to say.  If this Israeli professor's -- or any other non-Iranian scholar's -- research is benefitting Iranian studies, he should be thanked, not ostracized.  We should hear him, and, if we need, question him.

 One last word.  Please leave the internal affairs of ISIS to its memebers.  I assure you the members of this Society are educated and smart enough to make their own decision.  They don't need you to advertise their cause, nor do they need Iranian.com to tell them how to decide.


capt_ayhab

Mr. aynak

by capt_ayhab on

I see the point you are making. 

Teaching in  an university in occupied lands, which is purely for Jews only[speculating] which purely promotes segregation and apartheid is no different from a scholar in any Iranian university who, rather than carrying out his/her duties as an educator, which is being a liberal and democratic person in order to promote unbiased learning environment for the young minds, he/she promotes the regime agenda.

It is the ideology that these types of learning environments are trying to cram down the students throats and not the physical locations[which in itself is sad enough].

I presented that question hoping I would get a response from the ISIS system, for it appears that they are rather employing double standard.

 

 

-YT 

P/S I trust Tehran University to be one of best universities in the world, along with Sharif and alike. Two of my siblings teach in those prestigious institutions.

 


aynak

to capt_ayhab

by aynak on

As far as I know, there is no university in Iran, that has been built on someone else's land.   That's the nature of dispute here, not whether the professor (in this case Israeli or in your case one with close ties with IRI) has association  with a repressive government.

To put it differently, "Tehran University" or any others in Iran by themselves are not representative of oppression.    However the "Ariel college" by its very existence in disputed (occupied) territories, is not legitimate.

If someone from Tehran U comes to this event, that would not make Tehran U any more or any less legitimate as an academic institution. Tehran U has existed way before IRI and will way after IRI.  But if someone from Ariel college attends a conference  like this,  that endorses the legitimate existence of this college by ISIS.

I hope the difference is clear. 


aynak

to capt_ayhab

by aynak on

 

duplicate post.  See above. 


capt_ayhab

Question?

by capt_ayhab on

Not that I in any shape or form support anything about IR, but let us assume that some scholars who have close ties to the regime wanted to represent their respective universities where students are being beaten, and imprisoned.

Would the honorable scholars and ISIS as a whole take the same position?

 

-YT 

P/S Edited for typo