NUCLEAR

Negotiation with Iran have been zeroed by Iran.

Please read this article:

//www.iht.com/articles/2007/12/01/africa/02ir...

I believe that Iran is playing a diplomatic game with the West. We cannot trust them. I would never buy a carpet from an Iranian. My mother in law gave me my carpets. I don't understand the ploys used in the negotiations. Solano of the EU came out of a meeting with the impression that the diplomatic discussions were a failure this week. The Iranian representative came our dancing and singing with hope and joy.

The author of this article favors European ideals and governments over America. She does this consistently in her articles. Why can't she trust the Europeans when it comes to the Iranian nuclear crisis? She can't because she is a representative of the Iranian regime. I don't know if she is being paid, but I suspect that she has family members in a high position in Iran.

Ari,1- So you’re

Ari,1- So you’re supporting Islamic Fundamentalism, the most brutal, fanatic threat in the world today, which has killed millions of innocent women and children into pieces, which has destroyed countries (Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan), which has brutally oppressed women, which has brutally oppressed opposition, which has brutally oppressed minorities, which has brutally terrorized anything that doesn’t represent them, which has turned Islamic societies where it has power, into a 7th century caliphates, where it has banned technological achievements, which has jailed, tortured, exiled its own citizens, which has distorted religion, which has trashed, bashed and destroyed every democratic and liberal achievements the world worked for thousand of years, which has left countries in backwardness and ruins, ..Solely because it bash the U.S? So no matter if the Satan himself speaks out against the U.S, we should support him? And we wonder where Khomeini got his support?
2- If believe your definition of “U.S control of Middle East oil”, then, that so called “Control” was there, maybe even stronger, before the so called “neo-cons” took power. So how is it logical that the so called “Neo Cons” want to take control of something the U.S already has control of? Aren’t you guys say the U.S has been controlling Middle East for the last 50-60 years or so?
3- Why would U.S help Israel’s Arab enemies as much as it gives support to Israel (Please look at U.S foreign Aid index and arms sell in the last 20-30 years), if it wants Israel to have significant advantage over Others in the region? Plus, why would Iran, not now, but when the 1979 revolution occurred, consider Israel a threat? A country that, even after the revolution, has done absolutely nothing to harm the interest of the Iranian people. And by the way, I distinguish between IRI and Iranian people inside of Iran.
4- What is the definition of “independent”? Last time I checked, the IRI was recognized as an independent nation by the U.N, U.S and Israel (Whom you bash) and every single international organization, and the people around the world. And I always wanted to ask you guys that, what do you mean by the “West” and “East” argument? Is Venezuela or Cuba or Aztecs part of the west too? Is Japan part of the east? Why are we Iranians master of tweaking and twisting definitions? We twisted definitions of : Culture, Independence, Recognition, Imperialism,
Democracy, Sovereignty, Progress, Dignity, ..our definitions is contrary to definitions of most nations around he world, because of 2 words ; Islamic-Marxism. They redefined and destroyed our country.

Soraya, 1- What made you

Soraya,
1- What made you change your mind about calling the Islamic fascists in Pakistan “terrorists”? I’ve read your previous article, and you, just like other leftists, used to call these people and other Islamic Fascists around the world “freedom fighters”, didn’t you? So just to bash the U.S, we can easily and astonishingly, and bluntly, show double standard, change definitions, twist facts, and lie.
2- Iran and Pakistan are two different cases. Iran’s government is the center of inspiration, funding and support for International Islamic fundamental movement, Pakistan is not; although Pakistani Islamists, inspired by Khomeini’s movement and ideas (Including the admitting of Bin Laden himself that he regarded Khomeini as his inspiration), are posing a great and substantial threat to world security, so someone needs to have at least some military power to stand up to them, don’t you agree? That’s why it’s getting the support.
3- No one “accused” Iran of pursuing nuclear program in secret. Just listen to what they had to say, they clearly confessed couple of years ago that their nuclear program was active in secrecy the last 20 years. That’s not even considering the fact that common sense knows that the IRI needs nuclear arms to insure its survival and dramatically, to a point of no return, increase in bargaining and blackmailing powers.
4- The 1953 coup was successful because of the march of millions of Iranians in the streets in support of the Shah. Just like in 1979, they marched in millions to overthrow him. These are historical facts thus proving against the argument of the extent and influence of U.S or any other nation on both instances to change the outcome.
5- Lack of sense of responsibility and not taking responsibility for our own action is a huge social and cultural problem that Iran faces. Those are results of a history of tyrannical social and political structures, adding the influence of Islamic Marxism (Which you guys preach). This problem has had devastating consequences for Iran, we saw that in 1979.
6- If you really care about Iran, which I know for a fact that you leftists don’t, you would not speak in favor of Nasser, and the reason is Nasser was a fierce anti-Persian (Farsi) Arab nationalist whose anti_Iranian policies are well documented. He is famous for saying that “One day, (along with Ghaddafi and Iraqi leaders at the time), we will have lunch in Ahvaz and breakfast in Tehran” which means he had the dream of invading Iran. So, basically, if someone is anti-U.S, but at the same time, fiercely anti –Iran, you leftist would still support him? I can give you other examples; you guys supported Stalin, Khomeini, and Nasser. Putin…..all fiercely anti-U.S, but offcourse, everything doesn’t matter, does it?
7- Please explain how and for what benefit to the Iranian people and their future, are Iranian need to sacrifice their lives, resources, dignity, independence, to always engage in “challenging” others? What does “challenging” mean? What are we exactly “challenging”? Why do we have to end up “challenging”? How and why are we going to “challenge” others”? Why is that only we, out of all nations in the world, along with only 2-3 others, always like to “challenge”? What are the types of “challenging” methods? The last question is very important and I would want your response please.
8- As its clear, the problem Leftist and IRI have with the U.S, unlike their false claim, is not only with Bush or Republicans or the so called Neo Cons. This article bashes Carter also who is popular even in the most anti-U.S territories in the world, such as Palestine and Venezuela.
9- Oil supply is important to the flow of world economy, not just U.S interest. Every single country in the world is concerned about the security of the oil supply line. Unless, like you “communist manifesto” says, you want the world to get rid of technology and send everyone to “re-education” camps?
10- How do you define “yielding” in terms of International relations? Because you argue that Iran is not a threat and the U.S wants Iran to “yield”? The argument that Iran is not a threat is comical. Just look at the most recent world opinion polls. I’m not gonna ask you to get a reality check, or ask Iranians outside your leftist inner circle (whom construct the majority of Iranians), or get rid of your “Oghdeh” towards the U.S, or simply look at the disastrous condition Iran is in now because of 30 years of brutal oppression.

Re: Q once again resorting to childish tantrums...

Q, you are able to conduct a dicsussion seriously and well. But unfortunately when you are intellectually cornered and you are left with no good counter arguments, you immediately become insulting and (self) destructive. Specially at times when the underlying facts behind you argument are exposed, you begin to attack the "person" rather than his "argument".

I have observed you doing this not just with me, but with others as well. What you call "sarcasm", to others is insults. What you think is "putting someone is his place", to others is just a display of childish rage.

This attidude does not hurt your opponenets at all, it only hurts your own image even among your own proponents. You should find a better solution and a more mature reaction when you are intellecutally cornered. You can start by accepting that nobody's opinion can always be "perfect, and that it is "perfectly" ok to sometimes not be able to counter someone's argument.

Your political opinion is flawed of course, but your personal behavior in the area that I specified is even more flawed.

بمب اتمي و قوچانيان ايران

کافران خوب ميدانند که يک سلاح هولناک که در صورت دست از خطا برداشتن با ان روبرو خواهند شد، قوم رشيد، دلاور، و شهيدبان شهرستان قوچان خواهد بود. ترس از بمب اتمئ در درجه دوم قرار دارد. بلئ

What I Need

Dear Anonymous680789394

 How sweet!  Did you go there just for me after reading my posts, or was it the other way around, and you were already there looking for one for yourself and came back here just to show me what you found?

I'm not going to flag that post because I don't flag abuse directed at me.  But if anyone else wants to flag it, please do..  As I said, this thread is particularly sensitive to abuse.  And if you do flag it, don't forget to flag this one along with it.

To: Anonym 7 - You are absolutely correct

You are absolutely correct. Iran has vast uranium reserves that is why it does not see any logic of having to purchase nuclear fuel from any other country, or have facilities outside of its own territories when they have their own resources. Does it seem logical for anybody to purchase a good from another country, when you have it yourself!!

Obviously, Iran would liket to take advantage of all of its resources, oil, gas and uranium and be a significant supplier/exporter of the energy needs of countries which have significant demand. No other country in the region has all of these three resources together. No wonder Iran is a great prize for the U.S.

We are not even speaking about its other mineral resources that Iran has; steel, copper, etc..

Re: Ari

Ari, I think the issue is about nuclear fuel as well. Correct me but if my understanding is correct Iran is very rich in terms of raw nuclear material, and countries such as India could be very good markets for Iran. I would think that uncle Sam wants to supervise that. That may define where US is going to be for at least first half of this century.

Israel is the culprit behind many things...

(although I wouldn't be so confident as to number 9/11 among them, we don't know and to think we do is hubris...sorry, "outside the box" but that well-known conspiracy theory is also its own box),

 and, as a non-Zionist American Jew advocating a one-state solution, raised a Zionist among Holocaust and pogrom survivors, whose grandfather's shtetl was "erased from the pages of time" by Hitler, I suggest that :

until/unless the rhetoric of the legitimate blaming of the state of Israel for its evils embraces, CONSTANTLY and CONSCIOUSLY, a recognition of the tragic historical roots behind the current state of affairs...with Europe entirely to blame...

NOTHING is going to change.  It's all just going to get WORSE.

LANGUAGE, people, LANGUAGE.  This is cyberspace, it's all about WORDS.  IMAGINE POSSIBLE NEW LANGUAGES.

Good thoughts, good words...here your words ARE your deeds...

Robin

Israel behind 911?

It seems reasonable to believe those rummors that ISRAEL had a hand in this tragedy! Aftar all they needed to give the US an alibi to eliminate their enemies Iraq,iran, ..... I guess thats how the devils minds might work! Wasnt it that all the big shot jews evacuated before the attack?

ISRAEL THE REAL CULPRIT BEHIND IRAQ & IRAN WARS

AIPAC, JDL, ADL, NEOCONS & their bigus THINK TANKS, AND ISRAEL are behind all the wars we have had in the mid east for many decades and they are the ones pushed for eliminating their enemy Iraq and now pushing for Iran!
read:"TARGET IRAN" and "THE ISRAEL LOBBY".
Down with AIPAC, ISRAEL AND MOLLAHS!

Rosie... "UFL" , lol

Rosie... "UFL" , lol ;D)
loved it!!

A wonderful article

Dear Soraya, Yet another wonderful and meaningful article. Proud of you and proud of the likes of you, Iranian . And to those who advocate bombing Iran, just wonder how you would feel if they start by your and your family homes Mehrdad

Thank you Anon7, actually...

I was raised a liberal (what I call a card-carrying Liberal, my parents were willing to walk the walk, not just talk the talk," on ALL issues except the tragic blindspot of Israel).  I don't consider myself a liberal, because I believe in mixed capitalist/socialist economies. I am what an Iranian friend of mine who shares my views once termed a "soft" Leftist, also sometimes known as "Unidentified Flying Leftist."  :D

I do intend to continue posting.
Robin

Re: Rosie T

Rosie, it is great to see you post as a Jewish liberal in iranian.com. Many Iraninas don't realize that some of the most decent Americans, from the billionaire George Soros to Comedian John Stewart are Jewish and are not with those extremists who are currently in charge of AIPAC or similar groups. Keep posting...

To Q re Jamshid

Thanks for your recommendations about the use of sarcasm and irony in dealing with people who don't share our common political views. I will definitely use it in the future when it seems useful.

But Jamshid is my friend and that is not the nature of our dialogue.

Now, this may seem off-topic but it's not.  When my translation of Forough's "Tanhaa sedaa" recently appeared here, Jamshid made suggestions on a couple of problematic lines, and this is the final version I came up with, in its context, thanks to him:

The road runs through the capillaries of life

INCUBATION'S ESSENCE ON THE UTERUS BOAT OF THE MOON
WILL KILL OFF ALL CORRUPTED CELLS

and in sun's chemical space after rising

there is only sound,

sound absorbing the particles of time.
Why should I stop?

So you see, my discussions with Jammy have a different kind of "incubation." And they to me are the true Jamshid. .

 I'm more concerned, actually, with what it is in the language of the "left" which so polarizes Jamshid that he can't understand that you and Soraya are neither Khamenei nor the Tudeh, and he fears you so..  Last year I sat at a discussion with Hamid Dabashi at the Brecht Forum in New York about preventing US military intervention  in Iran, and he publicly asked for help in changing the language of the left. He said it was clear to him that this language had failed and that all it could do was  preach to the converted.  I publicly offered some suggestions and he said he wanted to speak to me about them. And then he never called on me again and when the meeting ended, he ignored me.

Of course Dabashi's tendency to grandiloquence and blustering are well-known.  But that was not the issue there.  He was talking about the CORE language of the "left" and its failures.

I know, I know, Jamshid doesn't listen (Jammy, you DON'T).  It's obvious that he CAN'T and so I too like to imagine possiblities where perhaps he COULD...(and sarcasm may well work for you...) As I understand it, Jamshid is opposed to foreign military intervention in Iran, unlike many who share his Aryanist world view.  And that means something, as you know.  It's probably why you've tried so hard to discuss things with him for as long as you have. 

It means a LOT...

Robin

Observer / neocons-sober or drunk?

Let us not waste time worrying about whether the neocons are hypocrites or stupid or crazy or all three. They are unfathomable, as is George Bush.  As an Ashkenaz American Jew with well-principled liberal parents sincerely committed to the Civil Rights movement, I cannot for the life of me understand how similarly educated people could forge alliances with the Born Again Christian Far Right, whom I was taught by both my parents and my professors at Columbia University, were my de facto sworn ideological opponents upon their emergence as a force in the 1970's.

Bush, same.  In 2003 I lost sleep many nights trying to understand if this man was the stupidest person on earth, a pathetic, ill-educated, sedated dry alcoholic manipulated by people far cleverer than he, or in fact an evil genius with a byzantine plan for personal gain through the destruction of large sections of the planet. 

I am still not sure, but I don't care anymore.  All I know is that these people must be stopped and that is where I place my focus now. In other words I don't care whether the driver speeding the careening school bus toward a steep cliff is sober or drunk. I only care about the bus.

Re: Another excellent and well documented article

Ari,
You are an excellent researcher yourself.
I have a suggestion: Why don't you and others who have the means, send copies of these polls and the corresponding articles to people such as: The guy who stole milk and his mostash is still white (what is his name?), Richard Perle (stooge of zionists), Doodool Cheeney (another zionist stooge), and their boss (you know who -- but wait, he cannot read so delete his name from the list), as well as the neocon mouth pieces such as Rush Limbogh, Mike Savage, and Glenn Beck and the likes (all of them in zionist "tonokeh").

Regards,
Asghar

UAE, SAUDIS and Pakistan

UAE, SAUDIS and Pakistan regime were the three countries that created Taliban and they were the only three countries that had recognized Taliban regime.
People can still find the old new from Internet. Thanks to Google.

The irony is that some neocons call these three countries allies. My question is:
Are they hypocrites to deny the story of creation and recognition?
Are you stupid?
Are they stupid hypocrites?

It cannot be none of the above. can it?

Another excellent and well documented article

Dear Soraya:

As always you enlighten us with your excellent articles. You delve deep into the issues and justify your arguments with facts.

You have correctly pointed out the issues that the U.S. has with Iran - It is definitely not about the nuclear issue, this is another false pretext to create fear in the minds of the American people.

The Bush Admin. and the neocons have exploited 9/11 for their own interest by keeping the citizens of this country under constant fear. We now have illegal wire tapping, surveillance cameras, construction of detention camps, the Military Commissions Act, the eradication of habeas corpus, presidential signing statements which gives Bush immunity from his actions, and legislation which cancels out cherished constitutional freedoms, anything else left that they want to eradicate - we must see the writing on the wall!!

The U.S. should forget about preaching democracy and human rights to other countries. Let's start with demanding that they give back our rights and freedom in this country. Whatever happened to the U.S. Constitution?

I guess President Bush and the neocons determined that it is more fun being a dictator!!

The reasons as you articulated in your article are absolutely correct:

1) The U.S. fears the rise of Islam - it is the strongest force which will combat U.S. imperialism and Israel's ability to silence the Palestinians and other countries in the Middle East as it expands its territory, steals their water, and gets access to cheap oil.

2) The U.S. desire for domination and hegemony in the oil rich Middle East. This is exactly what the Project for New American Century (PNAC) is all about.

This is to be accomplished through whatever means and that is why the buildup of the U.S. military industrial complex to secure U.S. interest in the region is so vital and obviously quite a lucrative business. No wonder we have to keep feeding the war machine.

3) As always Israel's push to remain the sole regional super power in the Middle East which it has garnered from the strong Israeli Lobby and the neocons in power.

4) The U.S., the west, and Israel fear an independent and self-reliant Iran. This is the "knowledge" that they keep referring as being the real threat. The idiots don't get it that you can't prevent a country and its people from attaining knowledge. They may be able to delay the process of Iran's development through sanctions - but in fact this has had a totally opposite impact as Iran has had to look inward and rely on the intellect of its own people and its own resources.

There is absolutely no reason why Iran should succumb to the illegal demands of any foreign country. I don't care what regime is in power.

AND FOR ALL OF THOSE WHO ARE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE IRANIAN PEOPLE AND WHAT THEY WANT - Yes, they want freedom and they don't need your help; thank you very much; but guess what they want, their nuclear program and they are not willing to give up that right!! SO please stop preaching on behalf of the Iranian people.

This survey was conducted by the World Public Opinion.org a U.S. based organization; SO NONE OF THIS IS IRI PROPAGANDA WHICH MANY OF YOU KEEP REPEATING AS YOUR MANTRA!!

//www.usip.org/iran/iran_presentation.pdf
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Another interesting fact, while the U.S. accuses Iran of developing a clandestine nuclear weapons program, with absolutely no evidence just see the hypocrisy and double standards by the U.S. in favor of Israel on its hidden and clandestine nuclear weapons program.

Guess who stole secret nuclear technology from the U.S.? I wonder why the IAEA is not requesting to inspect all of Israel’s nuclear facilities and military sites!! Just a little slip – we know the U.S. will never allow this to take place.

Just read this article published in YNET - Kissinger in 1969: Israelis most likely to use nukes!!

//www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/Cda...
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Declassified memo authored by President Nixon's prominent national security advisor indicates administration was deeply concerned by possibility Israel was developing nuclear arms

Former US National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger vexed over the prospects of a Middle East arms race in late 1960's, according to a New York Times report on Thursday, based on newly revealed historical documents, made public by the US National Archives.

Israel was "more likely than almost any other country to actually use their nuclear weapons," Kissinger wrote in a detailed memorandum to President Richard Nixon on July 19 1969, while all eyes in the US were on the Apollo 11 lunar mission.

Kissinger also suggested the possibility that Israel had stolen American materials for its own nuclear program. "This is one program on which the Israelis have persistently deceived us and may even have stolen from us," the veteran strategist wrote.

"There is circumstantial evidence that some fissionable material available for Israel's weapons development was illegally obtained from the United States about 1965," Kissinger said. He dismissed attempts to locate the material, writing that "we could never cover all conceivable Israeli hiding places."

"Israel will not take us seriously on the nuclear issue unless they believe we are prepared to withhold something they very much need," Kissinger wrote, going on to recommend the US threaten to rescind the sale of the Phantom fighter jets, holding the much-needed aircraft hostage until Israel yielded.

"On the other hand, if we withhold the Phantoms and they make this fact public in the United States, enormous political pressure will be mounted on us," Kissinger extrapolated. "We will be in an indefensible position if we cannot state why we are withholding the planes. Yet if we explain our position publicly, we will be the ones to make Israel's possession of nuclear weapons public with all the international consequences this entails."

Such a move would also potentially "spark a Soviet nuclear guarantee for the Arabs, tighten the Soviet hold on the Arabs and increase the danger of our involvement."

After meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir later that year, Nixon said: “The problems in the Mideast go back centuries. They are not susceptible to easy solution. We do not expect them to be susceptible to instant diplomacy.”

And so the policy of vagueness regarding Israel's nuclear program was born and remains to this day.

Steve Rosenberg and Ashraf Shoshoo, A Match Made in Heaven

Siamese twins separated at birth, now happily reunited here on this very thread! 

The wonders of cyberspace....

Peace and Harmony in the Middle East is a response

Peace and Harmony in the Middle East is a response to Steve Resenbery's post.

Peace and harmony in the Middle East?

I am not sure if it is in the interest of America to start another war. Here are a few reasons why.

"US Seen as a Bigger Threat to Peace Than Iran, Worldwide Poll Suggests."

//www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0615-02.ht...

"Europeans See Israel As Threat To World Peace"

//www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/1142

The Iranian government is a threat to Iran and the people of Iran, but not to the world peace. The Iranian people will fix their own problem.

Bravo Soraya, you did it again.

Dear Soraya,
Wonderful. Proud of you and proud of the likes of you, Iranian women.

Steve Rosenberg boy are you diluted....

 In the real world there will always be conflict of some kind or another. Complete peace will be difficult to attain even if what you  say is done.

To obtain peace there has to be ojective thinking and dialogue. People have to be able to look beyond their differences and focus on their similarities. There has to be a willingness to compromise.

Natalia Nadia

Deleting Posts

Dear Anonymous #2490248032

I am happy and proud to tell you that I have been flagging posts.  And the two I flagged were deleted.  Perhaps one was yours. I can't speak for whether Q or anyone else has been flagging posts.

One post I flagged was ideologically in FAVOR of Soraya and one was against. They weren't flagged or deleted for their politics, but because they were disgusting.

Neither Q nor I nor any other poster has the ability to delete posts. The person saddled with that responsibility acts on it reluctantly and sparingly because, as he has publicly stated, nothing is sacred to him except human life and free speech. Therefore, he only deletes posts whose lack of respect for human life is so repugnant that it outweighs his commitment to free speech.

Mifahmi?

Pay no attention to Jamshid please...

him and his various personalities have made it clear, they only care about hate and insults and they want to feel like "James Bond" by "outing" IRI "agents",  not any substance whatsoever.

One recommendation to Rosie, Soraya, and others, extreme sarcasm and redicule works well against these people.

Just as I suspected, they don't bother to read anything unless they are not sure what it means, and usually they can't comprehend satire, so they read the whole thing. For example, when I wrote the movie pitch about "The 100: JAMSHID AND THE MAGIC LIBRARY" starring Gary Brusey, he miraculously read every word of it. But when I was serious in this thread, for example saying "I don't have a problem with anonymous names" or "I do not advocate language censorship", he couldn't bother with reading before launching his vicious attacks and name-calling. More likely, he glanced over it, but his boiling anger blocked his vision!

Jamshid is a known liar and illogical person. He's been caught red-handed several times (as have a few other people). Normally, I give people the benefit of the doubt, but not when they have proven themselves liars. It's easy to sit here and make up stories about Evin and how persecuted you are without any proof, of course. But these are likely lies. Like the "Jewish" guy who pretended he was logging in from Iran and didn't even know that this site is filtered. In any case, even if you have to use an alias, no one is forcing you to make up lies and attack other people. That's the real issue which these facists never want to face. They only care about anonymity when they want to make false accusations.

Anyway, keep it creative. It makes for more of an interesting read.

Re: Q's Hypocrisy

There we go again doing onto others what you don't like be done to you. You don't like to be insulted, oh but you have the "natural" right to insult others. What a hypocrite.

As far as identity goes, people have every right to protect their identity. Specially those that may want to pay a visit to Iran. Not one, but two of my aquiantances are rotting in Evin today because they were "brave", as you recommend, and did not hide their identity.

In each case, the IRI authorities caught them when they were on a trip to Iran. How? They were betrayed by pro-IRI informers who live in the USA and knew about these two guys. That's how.

No one is crying like a baby except yourself. You cry like a baby and shout: "I want real identities...", "I want real identities..." What do you care about the identitiy? Huh? What does the identity has anything to do with the opinion that is being stated? So what if he is Joe or Yoossef? It is the opinion that counts.

You are getting sick and tired of getting attacked by anonymous people that you can't do nothing about, aren't you Q? Iranians have EVERY right to attack IRI supporters like you who are considered by them to be accomplices of this brutal regime.

Now you'll throw a tantrum and cry: "But I am not a pro-IRI suppoter..." , "But I am not a pro-IRI supproter...' Well if you are not a pro-IRI supporter, then come forward and tell us that your are not, and why you are not.

The credibility of the "hate" that are "spewed" at pro-IRI people comes from all those that IRI has surpressed, brutalizing and violated for almost 30 years. You do that to any human being and you will get the same reaction.

Instead of attacking the "hate" that people display towards IRI, look for and criticise its source: IRI's barbarism and brutality.

And finally, the coward is you who are living in a foreign country and enjoying the comfort and all the benefits that a foreign country provides while in your own country, the brutal regime you support denies its citizens not only those same comforts and benefits you are enjoying, but also the most basic of rights.

NOW THAT IS COWARDICE.

You are nobody till somebody loves you

You're nobody 'til somebody loves you
You're nobody 'til somebody cares.
You may be king, you may possess the world and it's gold,
But gold won't bring you happiness when you're growing old.
The world still is the same, you never change it,
As sure as the stars shine above;
You're nobody 'til somebody loves you,
So find yourself somebody to love.

The world still is the same, you never change it,
As sure as the stars shine above;
You're nobody 'til somebody loves you,
So find yourself somebody, find yourself somebody,
Find yourself somebody to love.

It's against the interests of Israel and America not to

attack the Islamic Republic. The Islamic Republic is a cancerous entity in the Middle East family of countries that have been trying so hard to live in peace and harmony with one another. Once the Islamic Republic and Hezbollah, its proxy thugs are destroyed, then the rest of the Middle East and the whole World for that matter can live in peace.