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Craig, do Zionists exist!?

Crag says: "but I ahve yet to see somebody explain the parallels."

Craig, sometimes you need to do some thinking for yourself. Do you remember last year you were arguing that there are no Zionists!?
Do you now see that Zionists actually exist? We even have a few of them (Zion, Mazloom, Bijan, etc.) here that are interesting people and we like them despite our disagreements.
So ..... Craig, Zionists exist, but Iran's "existential threat" to Israel DOES NOT EXIST.

Anonym7

iran is certainly no existential threat to israel, and those who pretend it is are the type that would also call israel the greatest gift to the palestinians ever!

but israel is an existential threat to iran because of its illegal stockpile of weapons of mass destruction. iran needs to protect herself from this dangerous, violent apartheid state.

mehdi mazloom you did not

mehdi mazloom you did not even read the words completely, your IQ is low but you call others moron. you are out of order and get mad. your EQ is perhaps evene lower than your IQ, and you did not understand the message at all. I now have to believe you are not persian and only israeli with an arab mind.

shutting

there won't be a war between iran and israel. both sides are too strong and 'daddy-US' won't allow its little brat of a child attack iran and start world war III. bad enough the US is broke, to plunge the world into war too would probably be the end of its pipe dream to lead the world. 

Anonym7 - Israel and existential threat.

So, should the Israelis wait until the great clown in Tehran (Khamanei) had decided, "Allah told him to do it". After which the last Israeli standing will you "we told you so!!!!"

The bottom line is very simple. You do not allow anyone who has no regard to human life, and puts his own messanic conviction ahead of the lives of others to have the means at his diposal to fulfill his deranged conviction. 

When these Mullah get into that religious trance, there is no way one could control their destructive behaviour, unless you do not allow them to have them.

GH - In mo-zakhraffe'

"Israelis do want a Persian to progress"?.

have you traveled to Silicon valley in CA to see how people from around the globe work in harmony and cooperation?. Start new compaies and become rich along the way.

Did it occur to you that, maybe that friend of yours, after all did not  meet the necessary qualification for the job?. Or maybe this company had found a more qualified employee for that particular position.

It is freaking pathetic to see so of you morons out there cling to every crumb on the table, just to accuse the Israelis with anything ugly comes in mind.

Go and get a life. You wish to post, then post something that makes sense and palatible. Not a rubbish. 

Reading the comments here, I

Reading the comments here, I can't see how a war is avoidable. Each side is blinded to what other side views as legitimate concerns. Both side demonize each other. This is how wars start.

People like anonym7 and zion should try to defuse the tension by being more flexible. Both parties in this operate on fear Not reason and objectivity.

God help Iran and Israel. With people like anonym7 and Zion, consumed with hatred and vengeance for "others", we will see a devestating war in our life time.

anonym7

Zion, I expected a better answer from you! Iran's "existential threat
to Israel" is another joke similar to those jokes that were created to
push the Iraq war.

Really? And how are the two cases similar? I heard that cliche statement quite a bit here on Iranian.com but I ahve yet to see somebody explain the parallels.

israelies behavior not

israelies behavior not humane with any values

example:

A friend of mine was going to join a company that had several israelies working there in USA. the friend after getting an offer from a real American was excited but shortly he received a call from a junior employee (of course under the direction of an israeli manager) and he was told: please rething about coming here. this grup is not good for you and i am sure you will fail. The friend did not go to that organization and found a job elsewhere. later he found it was the israelies who did not want a persian to progress.
i had never seen such behaviour from true good americans , so now really i dislike israelies and their tactis of damaging american society and companies. I think my friend should have gone to EEOC but he did not.

so even if you hate IRI, you cannot love israelies for the lack of values and principles they exibit.

sound sleep at night is good (to Zion)

Zion says "Anonym7, happy dreams buddy."

Zion, Iran's "existential threat to Israel" is another joke similar to those jokes that were created to push the Iraq war.
So Zion, get that "existential threat" thingi out of your head, and like me have a sound sleep and happy dreams at night, so you can have more of your intelligent debates with us during the day.

"existential threat" (to Zion)

Zion, I expected a better answer from you! Iran's "existential threat to Israel" is another joke similar to those jokes that were created to push the Iraq war.
So Zion, get that "existential threat" thingi out of your head, and have a sound sleep at night so you can have more of your intelligent debates with us during the day.

Ahmed

Ahmed: A little piddly country founded on terrorism and war; espousing nothing
but war, war and more war.

War:

//news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/78954...

At a weekend meeting in Istanbul, 200 religious scholars and clerics
met senior Hamas officials to plot a new jihad centred on Gaza.

In closed meetings after sessions delegates focussed on the creation of
a "third Jihadist front" - the first two being Afghanistan and Iraq.
The intensity of the Israeli attack had "awakened all Muslims," Mr
Awajy claimed. 

Ahmed: Assasination is a policy of thugs, mafiosis
and drug dealers and all this coming from...

Thugs:

(warning: graphic violence)

//www.liveleak.com/view?i=1d6_1234539823

Ahmed: Can we now talk about peace, love and the dignity of the human soul. I'd much rather do that than prove who is at fault.  

Can we know talk about honesty? I wouldn't want to talk about who is at fault if I was an Arab, either. Perfectly understandable. But if you REALLY want to talk about peace and love, you'd be doing a lot more good trying to counter the monsters in your own community, rather than accusing your enemy of being wrong for trying to defend themselves against them. My 2 cents worth. Israelis will never stop defending themselves from Arab aggressors, and neither will Americans. If you want peace, then curb the aggression. We can't do it for you. And if you don't really want peace, then to hell with you and your disingenuos comments.

Nice preaching

Ahmed, I hope the regime in Iran hears you and listens, but that is highly unlikely.
Anonym7, happy dreams buddy. If you weren't pretending to be asleep, you might have had a chance to wake up someday.

Zion

Israel at it again,

Can't they devote some of that energy to love and peace?? What a waste!

A little piddly country founded on terrorism and war; espousing nothing but war, war and more war. Assasination is a policy of thugs, mafiosis and drug dealers and all this coming from a supposedly the only democractic country in the world.

How can the world and UN stand by and witness this thuggery? Let us call it by its name. It is a gangster policy which has no place in the modern world.

As for Iran under the Shah, check this out from the real horse's mouth:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQgZ3oLp_WY

As for its recent terrorism act pay a little attention here:

//www.rafahtoday.org/news/todaymain.htm

Can we now talk about peace, love and the dignity of the human soul. I'd much rather do that than prove who is at fault. 

We know them by their fruit.Enjoy the sweet fruit of love instead of the bitter twist of hatred and conceit.

Ahmed from Bahrain

Anonym7

Iran having nuclear weapons is not an existential threat to IsraelIran having nuclear weapons is not an existential threat to Israel

You seem to have a lot of faith in the good intentions of a regime that has a long history of sponsoring terror attacks. What is the source of your information? And please do not say "common sense" or some such variation of that. You expect a lot of trust, and I don't see any basis for it, personally.

U.S/Israel will not be able to extort Iran

What exactly is that supposed to mean? 

Moderator 1234, I was seriosu about wanting copies of the comments I made, that you deleted or modified. You mischaracterized the nature of the comments I made, and you deleted them wrongfully, and I want to at least be able to complain about that to JJ, as you said I could. 

Iran not an existential threat (to Zion)

Zion, Iran having nuclear weapons is not an existential threat to Israel, Iran having the bomb however threatens the current level of U.S/Israeli hegemony of the region ... i.e., U.S/Israel will not be able to extort Iran. ... I know you are smart enough to know that, am I wrong?

Zende Bad IRAN

60 years of distruction and war.
Can we give TEXAS to Israel and stop the killings.
Respect

Zion, look

The achievements have been made by our guys and that with nothing, due to the sanctions. I thank them warmly for their love of the country. Me and you, talk and defend our nations by setting peacefully in our sofas far from home. The glory is for those who preferred to directly serve their homelands, by being there, rather than bla-blas.

Voilà, sur ce, bonne nuit ma chère.

Haji

My dear, it is not a question of technological progress. It is a question of nukes that kill people, it is a question of existential threats to the very lives of all Israeli citizens.

I would like you to respond why you do not support mullahs, if Iran has reached where you like to see it?

Zion

Han, Mehdi jan

I don't know your Jewish name. But come into my arms.

I love my country as much as you do. I also think that we have a lot to share and to learn from one another. I do believe that a lot of people inside Israel and Iran share this point of view too. It's unfortunate that the madness of some has created this  unbreathable atmoshpere.

Hope is that one day people will accept and respect each other and live in harmony with each other.

שלום

Dear Moderator

I am a bit confused. I though the point of moderation was to protect the site from vulgar language. I didn't know that the moderators also consider themselves the ultimate arbiters of what is and is not the "subject" matter, and what "kinds" of issues are allowed given a post and what not. Would you be still extending this authority to what kinds of "opinions" and "sides" are valid within a given "allowed" topic of discussion in the future as well?

Zion

noiZ,

So your source is Wikipedia? LOL And what your link tells about Of course, then?

Otherwise, Israel is in advance of everyone in the world? Waow. So if it is not afraid by its neighbours technology progress why has it bombed the Syrian and the Iraqi installations?

The theory of conspiracy is not a conjecture. It's is a theory which has been revealed by the Shah himself. Now, Iran has reached the knowledge the country had to have 30 years before, so what would you like me to respond?

Hajminator - This one I agree with you.

You wrote the following:

The civilization of my country goes back to 5000 years B.C. It knew
greatness, was once the bigget empire in the world. The first
human-right treaty wrote by Cyrus the great comes from Iran. My country
knew invasions, measery but Iran is still there. It succeeded to evolve
under each regime. Not so long from now, Persian was the most refined
language in the region and spoken in royal courts from India to Turkey.

You are absolutely right. That is my point. Now look where these backward Mullah have brought Iran to its knees.

Jews have much to thank to Cyrus II for allowing them to return to their homeland and  rebuild Jerusalem. In fact, it is a part of the curricula in every High school in Israel. It is taught with honor and respect to the ancient Persian Empire.

I have no problem whatsoever with those of you who defend  the country itself. you have lot to be proud with Iran, and its past glory. Not the present one though.

My problem is with those gullible Iranians who defend or otherwise support this despotic regime, and join the charade of Israel bashing.

As two minority groups in the  region, Israelis and Iranians could join forces and become the superpowers of knowledge, scientific center and economic powerhouses of the region. It is the despotic Mullahs and their pipe dream of Shi'ite hegemony in the region. Their apocalyptic mantra of death and destruction as means to return some illusive Mehdi or whatever rubbish they believe in. 

To the Zionistas, please chill.

I have said it before and I say it again. Iran and Israel have neither the intention nor the capabilities to attack each other militarily and expect any results other than disaster for both and the region as well.

What I was pointing out was Iran's right and capability to retaliate if, big if, Israel has "assassinated" any Iraninan for whatever reason. I was not being jingoistic about it. According to this article, and I no confidence in its authenticity, Israel has sabotaged Iran's nuclear sites, no evidence yet date or place mentioned, it has "assassinated" people, to which you referred as "killing them softly".

Mazloom, too bad you missed that gig when Mossad guys poisoned a Hamas guy, Mashal probably, in Jordan. They got caught and Mossad was forced to send the antidote to Jordan because that was the only way they would not go to jail. To add insult to injury, the PM had to release Sheikh Yassin, who happened to be the head of Hamas. Brownie points if you could name that PM. Hint: His last name rhymes with "Yaboo".

Anyway, Mazloom asked me to trust him/her. I do trust you Mazloom, and I ask that you trust me too. Watch your back, "killing softly will be in a theater near you. I am hoping that none of that comes true.

BTW, thank you for having so much love for the Iranian people in your heart. I do hople they get rid of the present regime in Iran, and I hope you in Israe can do the same for the sake of peace.

Exactly Craig

I agree. It's just sad.
lol.

Zion

Haji

This kind of conspiracy nonsense have no basis in reality. In fact there is certain hints that Israel lobbied for Iran going nuclear during the Shah. You don't seem to be in touch with reality. Iran progressing is no threat to Israel, Israel is so far ahead everyone else in the region this means nothing. It is madness and the existential threat to israel out of backwardness of regimes surrounding her that is Israel's major concern.

You still haven't answered my question. If mullahs continued Iran's progress so much to frighten everyone else, why do you no support them?

And my dear. Why do you do this to yourself:
//en.wiktionary.org/wiki/capisci

capisce is third person, not second person. If you want to transliterate in English, at least do it right.

Zion

Moderator 1234

Your comments have been modified and/or deleted because they contained unfounded accusations against another registered user.

That's untrue.

Should you wish to file a complaint, you may contact the publisher at the following email address.  jj@iranian.com

I do wish to file a complaint. Please forward to me copies of the comments that you modifed and/or deleted, so that I can do so.

My email is programmer.craig@gmail.com

User Tsion

Warning:  Please stay with subject of posts in which you participate. 

Tsion

My comment that... moderator to remain nameless... changed has been removed, so I'm happy. I find it a bit Ironic that this website has done a "Walmart" to the rest of the Iranian blogoshphere, though, and then the bloggers and blog readers who come here instead of doing what they used to do on the blogosphere can no longer be heard. But, (as so many here like to remind me!) I'm not Iranian. No skin off my nose :)

User Programmer Craig

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