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Hope again

The geopolitical of Middle East will be defined again after the election of Nethanyahu. Nethanyahu knows very well that the World and Middle East will only can live in peace when the mullahs have disappeared from the world political scene.
After the stratigical mistake of George Bush by invading Iraq instead of Iran, now we can hope again that the intervention of free world in Iran will not be far away.

staying true to principles (to Zion)

Zion, the very outspoken "Iranian" warmonger of this site that you support has no principles, he lies consistently and at best exaggerates.
I haven't yet figured out how descent you are (you send mixed signals in that regard!), but I can guarantee you that no matter what, the warmonger does not have a fraction of your decency.

The other one guy who said "** ** leez mikonan" and triggered all the Farsi stuff, is another disaster that is similar to the first one above!

Now go figure as you say!

Ahmed

Just wanted to say I read your reply. It seems we will have to disagree about the nature of the mideast conflict, and it seems neither of us has any solutions to offer. So it's just as well we don't argue about it any further :)

Hearsay?

As far as I can see in the link you provided, that's just hearsay. I
shall repeat myself here: what ever happened to Truth and Logic?

BBC: The revelation to the BBC was made by Sir John Sawers, Britain's UN envoy

If you are going to accuse Britain's representative to the United Nations of lying about what Iranian diplomats said to him in closed door sessions, then what is the purpose of Obama or anyone else engaging in such talks in the future? I can't even laugh at that, IRANdokht.

So much for your truth and logic. Thanks for educating us about what it means to live in denial.

Delusions

Anonym7, decent Iranians need to "doing" of any sort to have friendship between the two people, and there is no where to get to with the ideological zombies. What decent Iranians need is information and knowledge to defuse the horrendous misinformation that has been targeting them for decades already in order make the right decisions. That is all.

I can see how your degenerate idea of being smart and sophisticated consists of a mixture of your types' idiosyncratic delusions of what "Mossad" (actually X-Files!) modes of operations are supposed to be like, as well as tricks and "sophisticated" cajoling of other people and playing on their vanities, and no wonder you all lag behind the rest of the world in social matters, but in the real world what ultimately matters, what creates and keeps lasting bonds is staying true to principles no matter how unpopular it might be among dirty mobs all around. It might alienate the likes of you, but it is the only thing that brings respect among worthy people who really matter.
Now go figure.

Zion

Easy Mazloom (to Zion also)!

Mazloom, Don't worry about Zion, she is her own worst enemy. She sets herself up when she sides with some of the most OFFENSIVE, reactionary, and warmonger ultra right Iranians, the jerks that want the Israelis and Americans do their fighting for them .... and Zion falls for that!
As for you, you had made some silly mistakes that caught up with you yesterday ...... but your closing comment was good and we let go of that. However, don't think that you remotely qualify to lecture me ... some of the silly things you and Zion are doing destroys the good that DW is doing .... the friendship that DW is trying to create between our people.

BTW, my childish jokes helped your soft landing!, and I am proud of my childishness.

Shabbat Shalom aghaye mazloom

Fine

Anonym7, do as you please. It was just a friendly advice to act civilized, given that you at least sometimes try to imitate it [you know, to show how "smart" you are and all that... :-p]. It was meant as a kind gesture to help you differentiate yourself from the rest of the dirty mob at work here, but hey, it's a free country (still), so have it your way. Matters little to the rest of us anyways... .

Dear Mehdi, Thanks. Much obliged.

Zion

Craig Programmer

Kashani has given the Zionist views on the subject and I don't need to repeat but you can pull the wool over your eyes if you wish.

Here is what you said:

"Those "zionist" gangs have been gone for more than 50 years, Ahmed. If you want peace, get rid of your terrorists."

Menahim Begin was a recent president. He was a Hagana terrorist member and so was Sharon.

Besides you seem to fall flat on your argument. What you say is that it is ok if someone comes and steals your home, drives your family inot exile and rules the rest of your family with brute force and if you say or do anything to object to all this creulty then you are a terrorist. Your argument is that it is fate accomplished and hence the victim should give up his protest or fight.

Try that sort of justice in your homeland, wherever you are, and see where it gets you.

Remember the right of return by refugees to their homes is sacrosent and protected under Geneve Convention. Except ofcourse for people like you who keep preventing such rights to be administered and all because of the guilt that the Europeans/Americans have for doing what they did to the Jews. American tax dollar props us this injustice and give a dog a bad name and you can hang him.

Sad irony.

Am done here. Can't argue with someone who can't see rationale in having a just peace based on fairness.

Peace
Ahmed from Bahrain

Anonym7 - you need to get civil

By calling tsion with ugly names or twist her s/n does not score you any point. Nor it impresses anyone.

I know we all have difference of opinions, and tsion (zion) has her passion on subject matter. However calling people with ugly names which they did not chose for themselves, is not part of the process.

(psst, do tell anyone I told you. But you sound very childish)

No silly, you don't need to apologies to me. You are compassionate about certain thing, and you express them. So others.

Like the saying goes. At times, It is less important WHAT we say, as much as HOW we say them.  Just watch your language and make sure your accusations make sense and try to avoid hip shoot.

Don't do onto to others, what you don't wish it done to you.

Good sabbat

Kaveh Nouraee, you don't make sense;You are a Crazy man.

Hey Kaveh you crazy man,

You can never be a Real Iranian,

You complain so much about Iran,

And you don't even have a plan,

Complaints are for idiots

Your writings ain't worth 2 cents

"Neither Hamas or Hezbollah are Palestinian. Hamas is Egyptian. "

What type of statement is that?

Gaza has not been part of Egypt for some time.  Hamas is a Palestinian movement.  Don't confuse the issue.

You are a right wing Ansar Hezb'Allahi.  You are a devout follower of Ayat'Allah Seyed Ali Khamenei.

I bet you wash the Spiritual leader's rear after he takes a dump.  And after you clean the Spiritual leaders buttocks and anus with an Aaftaabeh (ewer) you then wipe your wet feces smelling left hand on your forhead.  You believe it is a blessing (Savaab). 

A lot of people on this site believe you are a nut.

I am trying to give you advice.  Unfortunately, you are too damn stupid.

Kaveh, I know you are a supporter of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

regarding the war monger (to zion and Mazloom )

Zion, let Mazloom ask for my apology, that is if he thinks my apology is needed, and I will gladly apologize to him.
As for Farhad he is one of the most outspoken war mongers in this site, trying very hard to push Americans and Israelis into a war with Iran. He is another Ahmad Chalabi, not only an enemy of Iranians, but also an enemy of Americans and Israelis despite his strong seemingly "pro" Israeli and "pro" American rhetoric.

Desert Dogma

It is an irony that our culture is under attack from every direction. From inside the Semitic-Muslim and from outside both the Arabs and Jews (children of Ibrahim) are trying to destroy our nation/people & culture. Aryans must embarrass their culture otherwise the barbaric Ibrahimics (from land of sand & lizards) would finish the last reminisce of our civilization.

Kashani

You visit Iran as frequently as your cronies on this list show objectivity and class in arguing their point of view.

You know the list. It's a mile long, and you can't throw the baby out with the bathwater. It will come back to get you.

If you think the mullah's are so bad, then you better visit the blogs (not the headlines, Kashani) of WSJ, NYT, FT's alike to get a better sense of what the general public are saying about things. While you are at it, here is the 60 minutes clips last time you and I tried to reason over this topic, along with some of the quotes from task sargents which you and your cronies endorse and idolize. Oh that's right! I fortot must be an anti semit for sheding light on the reality of how zionists subject Israeli and other middle eastern nations to further their own monetary and political ambitions. (Wake up Kashani..)

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYAgyv2MKyI&eurl=ht...

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUaeID9Lap0&eurl=ht...

And by the way, Ben Gurian is the man that winston Churchill selected to lead and establishment and governance of the state of Israel. He was living in NY before moving to Israsel.

"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." -David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

AP
David Ben-Gurion was prime minister of the state of Israel when it was founded in May 1948

David Ben-Gurion
Part Washington, part Moses, he was the architect of a new nation state that altered the destiny of the Jewish people — and the Middle East
By AMOS OZ

MORE QUOTES...

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
-- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.

"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population."

-- David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

"There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
-- Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

-- David Ben Gurion, quoted in The Jewish Paradox, by Nahum Goldmann, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p. 99.

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."
-- David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).

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David Ben Gurion
Prime Minister of Israel
1949 - 1954,
1955 - 1963

"There is no such thing as a Palestinian people... It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn't exist."
-- Golda Meir, statement to The Sunday Times, 15 June, 1969.

"How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to."
-- Golda Meir, March 8, 1969.

"Any one who speaks in favor of bringing the Arab refugees back must also say how he expects to take the responsibility for it, if he is interested in the state of Israel. It is better that things are stated clearly and plainly: We shall not let this happen."
-- Golda Meir, 1961, in a speech to the Knesset, reported in Ner, October 1961

"This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by God Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its legitimacy."
-- Golda Meir, Le Monde, 15 October 1971

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Golda Meir
Prime Minister of Israel
1969 - 1974

"We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!"
-- Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

"[Israel will] create in the course of the next 10 or 20 years conditions which would attract natural and voluntary migration of the refugees from the Gaza Strip and the west Bank to Jordan. To achieve this we have to come to agreement with King Hussein and not with Yasser Arafat."
-- Yitzhak Rabin (a "Prince of Peace" by Clinton's standards), explaining his method of ethnically cleansing the occupied land without stirring a world outcry. (Quoted in David Shipler in the New York Times, 04/04/1983 citing Meir Cohen's remarks to the Knesset's foreign affairs and defense committee on March 16.)

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Yitzhak Rabin
Prime Minister of Israel
1974 - 1977,
1992 - 1995

"[The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs."

-- Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the 'Beasts,"' New Statesman, June 25, 1982.

"The Partition of Palestine is illegal. It will never be recognized .... Jerusalem was and will for ever be our capital. Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel. All of it. And for Ever."
-- Menachem Begin, the day after the U.N. vote to partition Palestine.

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Menachem Begin
Prime Minister of Israel
1977 - 1983

"The past leaders of our movement left us a clear message to keep Eretz Israel from the Sea to the River Jordan for future generations, for the mass aliya (=Jewish immigration), and for the Jewish people, all of whom will be gathered into this country."
-- Former Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir declares at a Tel Aviv memorial service for former Likud leaders, November 1990. Jerusalem Domestic Radio Service.

"The settlement of the Land of Israel is the essence of Zionism. Without settlement, we will not fulfill Zionism. It's that simple."
-- Yitzhak Shamir, Maariv, 02/21/1997.

"(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls."
-- Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) Yitzhak Shamir in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

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Yizhak Shamir
Prime Minister of Israel
1983 - 1984,
1986 - 1992

"Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."
-- Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, speaking to students at Bar Ilan University, from the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.

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Benjamin Netanyahu
Prime Minister of Israel
1996 - 1999

"The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more"....
-- Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000

"If we thought that instead of 200 Palestinian fatalities, 2,000 dead would put an end to the fighting at a stroke, we would use much more force...."
-- Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, quoted in Associated Press, November 16, 2000.

"I would have joined a terrorist organization."
-- Ehud Barak's response to Gideon Levy, a columnist for the Ha'aretz newspaper, when Barak was asked what he would have done if he had been born a Palestinian.

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Ehud Barak
Prime Minister of Israel
1999 - 2001

"It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."

-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours...Everything we don't grab will go to them."
-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.

"Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial."

hey Carpenter

The only BS around here is the crap you spew left and right.

The day I support your IRI masters is the day the world stops turning.

Neither Hamas or Hezbollah are Palestinian. Hamas is Egyptian.

REAL IRANIANS? You wouldn't know one if you were in a room full of them.

As an Iranian who is ethnically Iranian, I view your statements as the rantings of a mentally unbalanced lunatic.

Kaveh Nouraee: "Truth and Logic?"

"Israel shooting first? They can't shoot first."

-Why can't Israel shoot first?  They are an independant nation.  That's just a stupid comment

"Through their proxies (Hamas and Hezbollah), the IRI initiated the aggression. Even though the IRI outsourced the job to their subcontractors, it is they who fired the first shot."

-Hamas is a Paletinian Arab Sunni Movement.  They have more in common with Turkey, Egypt and Saudi Arabia.  The last cease fire was with the aid of Egypt and Turkey.  Wake up!  And stop spreading lies.

-Lebanese Hezbollah?  That is an Lebanese Arab organization that is part of the Lebanese government.  They are not Iranian.

You seem confused to say the least.  you maybe trying to confuse people but, I see thru you B.S.

I have read a lot of your postings and you seem to be a supporter of Iranian President Ahmadinejad and Iranian Spiritual leader Ayat'Allah Ali Khamenei.

Stop trying to confuse REAL IRANIANS like myself.

As an American who is ethnicly Iranian (Fars) I view your statements on this site as totally ignorant.

That's better Anonym7

I don't know about you, but calling someone who has been honest, fair and respectful to you someone else's "parrot" and insinuating his not perfect Persian, which he wrote only in response to your specific request, was a matter of dishonest lying and copy pasting, does not look like nice manners to me. It sure needed an apology, as does your attitude towards Farhad by the way.

Zion

Mr. Kashani

You posed a very valid question when asking if there is a limit to this hate.

Unfortunately you'll find that the answer to be that there is no limit. It has not been limited by the passage of time, the millions of lives it has ended or otherwise destroyed or the gallons upon gallons of blood it has caused to be spilled. 

As you can clearly see it has consumed some people's sense of decency and humanity, and it has masqueraded as righteousness. When it's confronted, the hate only grows.

In truth, it is a veritable black hole that continues to consume everything in its path and will not cease until it is destroyed.

Ok Zion (to Mazloom also)

Zion says: "Anonym7, my dear. How about you apologoze to Mehid Mazloom after repeating false allegations against him when he passed your "quiz", instead of ranting against decent people on this website?"

Zion, if it makes you happy I "apologoze" to Mazloom. But read the comments again, I wasn't picky about his Farsi. And actually after his final comment I believe he is a more interesting person than I thought he was. Ironically despite being an Iranian nationalist I have the same kind of attitude as his about hypocritical aspects of our culture (what he call ghormeh sabzi).

Mazloom, if you tell me I hurt your feelings, I will definitely apologize to you. What do you say?

BTW Mazloom, when I retire from my software job, I will try to find you and propose a chelow/falafel business in Israel, ...,

Yes, dear.

Whatever you say. You're absolutely correct. You two are indeed the ones to look up to and emulate.

After all, you're both just the most intelligent, genuine, open-minded, tolerant, kindest, most warmhearted souls anyone could ever expect to meet in their lifetime, who have never bad-mouthed or criticized anyone, or harbored any ill will towards others and I should just thank God that you are there to enlighten and enrich my life.

Oh, boy, I just feel so lucky!

lost

So I say to myself, how did you miss this thread?

Then ever so[noke pa yavashaki] I sneak in to take a look, and keep reading, comment after comment . I get to the bottom of first page, so far nothing about the subject.

Come on Ayhab. stop exaggerating, there are few heated name calling and what nots, but main subject is FOOOOOD.......

And Imagine me the [SHIKAMOO], close to the end of the day. A day without breakfast nor lunch, drooling over the comments, and searching the [MENU].

I love Chelow-Kabab, so guess what folks, I am ordering a take-out for tonight, Soltani Chelow-Kabab[2], with extra bbqed tomatoes and [sikh]of  chicken-kabab. Mrs. has promised to provide the mAst-o-Moseer, and Shirazi Salad.

capt_ayhab [-YT]

P/S I shall read the other pages of the thread before I go to bed tonight. I need an idea for tomorrows dinner ;-)

Anonymous.  I take

Anonymous. 

I take frequent trips to Iran. What are you talking about? Tell me, what do you say during your trips to Iran that apparently I'm not seing? Lets discuss.

    Tsion and craig and Kaveh,  

Good job guys.

Dear Farhad and Kaveh

To get the wrath of these pathetic mob is only a sign that you are saying the right thing. Good job.
What is amusing is the way they come to the defense of their mullahs so passionately. When it comes to the butchers in Tehran, everything clear evidence becomes hearsay and gossip. When it comes to Western countries, every stupid rubbish is celebrated as the absolute truth. Funny thing is, they insist they are good American citizens and that they do not approve of their dear regime in Tehran at the same time. Some sad clowns, eh? ;-)

Anonym7, my dear. How about you apologoze to Mehid Mazloom after repeating false allegations against him when he passed your "quiz", instead of ranting against decent people on this website?

Zion

IRAndokht,   I’m not

IRAndokht,

I’m not sure why you always underestimate the power of ideological and propaganda influence. Why is it hard for you to understand that the IRI regime has inspired Islamic Fundamentalism? Why do you ay what Khomeini and his mini-fascists say and are saying are just some “arajeef”?? Why is it so impossible for you to believe that people around the Islamic world want to follow the footsteps of Khomeini?

Just like USSR was the center of inspiration for Communism, so is IRI for Islamic Terrorism. The traditional definitions of “who fired the first shots” no longer applies in a world so intertwined and integrated with so many tools available to governments and groups to make significant impacts in world politics.

The idea of preventive war is not an invention of Bush. Please get out the “blind anti Bushism bubble”. Every country has the right to defend itself when there is “imminent threat”. Now, the “imminent threat” that IRI is to Israel, is not something that IRI officials themselves deny. So I’m not sure why you are denying it! IRI’s existence surrounds around hate for Israel and America. What IRI does is “provoking “ Israel. That doesn’t mean Israel is righteous, rather, the question is why is IRI hijacking my country in the name of anti Israelism and why is my country being sacrificed for this irrational hate? Israel is bad, agreed! But isn’t there any limit to how much this hate can go? Have you ever asked yourself this question IRANdokht? I repeat, how you ever asked yourself this question?

PC ...

As far as I can see in the link you provided, that's just hearsay. I shall repeat myself here: what ever happened to Truth and Logic?

A7: I wish I could see sincerity and passion there too, I only see a dirty agenda and people getting paid to do a job. FK is driven by hate and those others by $$. You see too much of something that isn't even there my friend, maybe you're just homesick...

NP jan: I totally agree

IRANdokht

KN

you are SUCH a sad character!

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!

Niloufar Parsi talking about moral integrity?!?!?!?!

HAH!

50,000 unemployed comedians out there and she wants to stand in the back of the line.

Your vile hatred and bigotry precludes you from talking about morality, as the only thing you have managed to show with any credibility is that you lack even the tiniest shred of it. 

Additionally, all of your double-talk and back-pedalling when confronted over your lame joke of a boycott showed that you have absolutely no integrity whatsoever.

Go on and have your laugh, you and the other shrew.

Before you can say jack about integrity, try using you real name when you post in a thread. If you're so full of moral integrity, why are you hiding it behind a pseudonym?

Dr. ZEvil! (to priest)

The result of an ultra right Iranian extremist and an Israeli extremist might be Dr. ZEvil!

irandokht jan

it is so comical to be reading this moron, this affront to moral integrity and intelligence who does nothing but attack the good will of others on this site trying to lecture you about being nice to others on this site. and look, his fascist friend has just butted in to congratulate him, and the sad gang was of course preceded by that zalem weirdo. great laugh watching these idiots making fools of themselves!

Sure they will!

This is so comical.

Kashani, I am not giving up on you. I'm convinced you'll eventually start seeing through the headlines and learn to seek real news on your own. Unitl then, a good way for you to cope with your pain is for you to take a trip to Iran.

And for the interim, know that the Zionist blood from London and Paris, to New York and jeruselum will evaporate from boiling before any of these cities' minority elite succeed in exterminating the subject of Iran's national pride.

Wake up Kashani Joon! Wake up!

IRANdokht

This one is for you. Show us your "truth and logic" in your reply, please.

//news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7901101.st...

 Iran offered to stop attacking British troops in
Iraq to try to get the West to drop objections to Tehran's uranium
enrichment project, a UK official says.

The disclosure by UN ambassador Sir John Sawers in a BBC
documentary throws new light on backroom discussions between Iran and
the West.

But now a senior British official has revealed that not only did the
Iranians privately admit their involvement, they even made an
astonishing offer to switch off the attacks in Iraq if in return the
West would stop blocking Iran's controversial nuclear programme.