Remembering Hiroshima and Nagasaki

Remembering Hiroshima and Nagasaki
by salman farsi
08-Aug-2011
 

 

Sixty six years ago these days, in the period between 6th and 9th August 1945, the greatest democracy in the world, the United States of America, dropped two atomic bombs, nick-named Little Boy and Fat Man on two Japanese civilain targets in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, respectively.  The Little Boy annhilated an estimated number 118,661 (later increased to 140,000) of 350,000 population of Hiroshima and the Fat Man wiped off 74,000 humans in Nagasaki. Countless number of civilians died in later months and years due to sever burns due to exposure to radiation and cancer in both cities.

America's rationale for dropping these bombs was to shorten the war and save lives on both sides of the conflict. In other words, let us kill hundreds of thousands (of enemy civilians, instantly instead killing the same number or more over a long period of time!!

The questions that need to be asked are these:

  • Would the same rationale been accepted if Hitler or Hirohito had shortened the war by dropping similar bombs on London and New York?
  • Does it feel better if you are bombed to oblivion by a democracy rather than by a dictatorship?
  • Is there a different name than genocide for what happened in Hiroshima, Nagasaki and earlier in Dresden, Germany?
  • If dictatorships are not chosen by the people they rule over, then how can the mass killings of the same people who had no say in their rulers decision to go to war be justified?
  •  How can a Christian nation that believes in "Peace on Earth" justify the mass killing of men, women and children in the name peace?

 

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Soosan Khanoom

AO ...

by Soosan Khanoom on Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:51 AM PDT

Throughout the history at one point or another most Empires on power have managed to be evil ......It is the jungle law but somehow this jungle has also managed to fit another law into its nature and that is what goes up must come down ... or you shall reap what you sow. That concerns everyone an Empire or not.

I was watching a movie last night called  


Goya's Ghosts - Trailer 

One never knows how things turn around in a flesh of second and sadly no one ever learns from history which has been repeating itself over and over again.  As Jesus says; "  "Put your sword away! All who use a sword will be killed by a sword "

It is not about who has the rights to do what. It is not about the preemptive strike. It is not about  the notion of " if we had not done it our enemies would have done it to us " ... it is the nature of it that makes it barbaric no matter who does it  ... And that makes it the most evil ...

Now ...we do not know what would have been the end result if  it was another way around ... may be U.S is the kindest Empire compare to the other ones .... but  that does not change the facts about this barbaric act and should not give any human with a heart the reason to justify it ......

by the way quite an impressive little poem you have there ... 

I have read tons  of poems related to injustices and atrocities from others in addition to ones done by the U.S ....  

Never under estimate  the power of words. It has more power than the blood. we are human we should be able to write and fight it over with pen rather than our claws  .....  

 


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Anonymous Observer

Much to the contrary, that is exactly what we are talking about

by Anonymous Observer on Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:39 AM PDT

cause and effect.  When you murder, torture, bury alive, rape 30 million people, you should expect to be punished.  That being said, I have taken the liberty of writing a poem for the 30 million victims of Japanese atrocities.  I have to say that I am not much of a poet, but I will take a crack at it:

Oh, you 30 million souls...

what did you do...

when the benevolent Japanese came...

and took your wifes, sisters and daughters...

and gave them as prostitutes to Japanese soldiers...

who raped and then murdered them...

oh, you beautiful Chinese farmer...

who were plowing your field...

when the maginificent Japanese warplane, a Mitsubishi Zero...

sprayed you with mustard gas...

and then you were cut open while you were still alive...

just so that the Japanese could see how the chemicals reacted in your body...

did you thank them and say "death to America?"... 

oh, you thirty million victims...

when the innocent Japanese buried you alive...

did you thank them and say "death to America?"....

you should have...

because after all...

America is the most evil...

Peace.... 

 


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salman farsi

AO and GP

by salman farsi on Tue Aug 09, 2011 08:10 AM PDT

 

We are not talking about Japanese atrocities. I don't know much about Shintoism but I know in Christianity killing, particularly to such a massive scale is not the message of Christ.

 For an Islamic democracy


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salman farsi

Thank you brother Freethought and sister Soosan

by salman farsi on Tue Aug 09, 2011 08:12 AM PDT

 

As you both appreciate the absence of our so called democracy loving bretheren, not to mention the peace-loving, passive "faith" is to leave comments here is instructive.

What did the Baha'i community in the US do after they learned of Japan nuked in 1945? What did the Christian community do when they were told of the number of the dead?

Only Islam is the bogeyman? Can you bring an example of the same scale which muslims may have commited?

 For an Islamic democracy


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Anonymous Observer

Such simple minded, biased analysis

by Anonymous Observer on Tue Aug 09, 2011 08:13 AM PDT

The attacks on Hiroshima and Nagazaki put and end to this:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes

It was the only way to force the Japanese into a complete surrender and stop the atrocities and crimes against humanity that they were committing on a mass scale against civilian populations. Here's a quote:

"the Japanese slaughtered as many as 30 million Filipinos, Malays, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Indonesians and Burmese, at least 23 million of them ethnic Chinese."

The more important moral question in this: at what  point does a nation become responsible for the crimes against humanity that its military-which it feeds, funds and supplies with soldiers--commits?  Should we always overlook that and just  write poems?  But hey, don't let your knee jerk hatred for America get in the way of facts, and objective analysis and fair compariosn of the events. 

Incidentally, why don't I see any poems, blogs or cries for the 23 million Chinese who were massacared at  the hands of the Japanese? :-(  

PS- the U.S. could have dropped the bombs on Tokyo and killed millions.  But it didn't.  One can only assume that if the shoe was on the other foot, the Japanese would not have thought twice about dropping the big ones on New York or LA. 

 


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Soosan Khanoom

OUTRAGES .......

by Soosan Khanoom on Tue Aug 09, 2011 05:19 AM PDT

United States engaged in acts of barbarity while prosecuting a war ... 

Often I am afraid of their desires. 
They demolished so many lives.
That one will not be able to forgive them.
I know all the gray today. 
Since I perceived this cries.
We are so far from the promised paradise.
They broke too much laughter, 
Destroy too much future. 

In the name of which
empire ? 

there was nothing
worse, that the desire all for destroy. 
there is nothing any more to say.
For all these innocent children,
and their small greedy eyes

for their life taken again by non-believers.

You know my small all the malicious ones 
do not show it
inevitably pay attention to you well.
They broke too much laughter, 
Destroy too much future. 

In the name of which
empire ? 

there was nothing
worse, that the desire all for destroy.
there is nothing any more to say.
God, but which is thus this tourmant?
This world does not save anymore the children. 
Madness of adult.
Why break the wings of the angels? 
and to let the demons prevail? 
why let see these children dying?

They broke too much laughter,
Destroy too much future. 

In the name of which
empire ? 

there was nothing
worse, that the desire all for destroy. 
there is nothing any more to say.
The moon and the stars shine,

and our wet eyes of tears request and beg
for these lives.

Lyrics / In Memoriam 


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Freethought111

Where are the IC lynch mob here?

by Freethought111 on Tue Aug 09, 2011 01:29 AM PDT

gorbeh pashmalo is threatening the nuclear genocide of Muslims. Not a word of protest emerges from a single member of the cacophony chorus of NED funded fools on this site. Exposing a sinister cult with proven historical ties to the British establishment and now the American brings out the whole mob with their pitch-forks.

This site is an anti-Iranian Islamophobic hate-site!


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gorbeh pashmalo

Thank you brother Salman. The muslim world should pay

by gorbeh pashmalo on Mon Aug 08, 2011 05:53 PM PDT

special attention to this event and learn from it. This awesome power can and should, in a controlled manner, be used again to convince the muslims to give up their violent means and become civilized.
Thank you again.


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