Peacock_Feather

You're right

Maybe they should take Ayahuasca and read the quoran instead. No con artists there ....   :)

ROFL!!!

Glad you are humored.

LOL!

LOL!

Fesenjoon2

I dare you to watch this documentary from beginning to end and come back and act the clown with a straight face about these issues ever again:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UDlH9sV0lHU

Western pharmaceutical companies, GMO corporations such as Monsanto and the psychiatric industry which trucks for both are together with the banks the greatest criminals on earth.

Go ahead. I dare you to watch it. You might actually learn something.

Lies again !!! really fesenjoon? ? can't help it by laugh ...

Apple Pie,  You have mulla mentality.. I am pretty sure that at one point in your life you were one !  or a Rabbi .. ! 

The verse. you liked. //quran.com/5/33 is against those who declare WAR ( in a war declaration, the one who starts the attack is determined to kill so you need to defend yourself) and it is against those who are corrupt ( which the word applies to anything but mocking Prophet or writing fiction book) .. This specific verse applies towards those who start a war of aggression .. ..Quran never allows anyone to start a war ... READ IT 

... Search for the word Mock ... see what you come up with .. i know the verse that contains it by heart,  but i am amused by your Copy paste tech .. and the degree of your understanding ...so I am asking you to do the search .. !!

Now me arguing it with you won't help you and why would i even want to help you?   You follow the same school of thought as Talibans..  Now if anyone could have helped Talibans to come out of their ignorance that one for sure can help you too!  

Either one gets the message or not .. if you do get the message then you become an ordinary person who happens to be a muslim, a jew, or a christian or anything he or she wishes.... but if you do NOT get it then you become a radical , a fundamentalist... A Taliban .... now people like you can argue that they are Atheists ... well ..i can argue that Radicals, Fundamentalists and Talibans are atheists too !  

I just can't find anything like a death Fatwa in Quran for a person like Salman.   You would probably stone me to death if you still were holding to your Ammameh and titles!!.. cause I know many mullas disagree with me too !    

If i happen to see a radical so called muslim hurting Salman Rushdie and if I happen to be there i will interfere to the point that I would take the bullet for Salman  ... Yes i die for him .  I mean it and I mean it from bottom of my heart because he is being hurt in the name of God and The God that I know would never allow it...   

nozarmahallati

Dude

The "advocacy for merciless violence against pharmaceutical and psychiatric industry" has roots, my friend:

//www.tebyan.net/newindex.aspx?pid=212947

Demo jaan

The cyber-oppressors need to shake the demon who has a hold of them out of themselves. Let them demonstrate as much as they want how badly possessed they are within the demon's grip.

Freire advocates engagement. We need to get our hands dirty and be in the face of these cyber-oppressors so that the demon within them at some point exhausts itself and we can proverbially exorcize it. Some of these people here are certifiably looney. I feel for them. Since Freire suggests 'love' as an actual political strategy, allow me to recommend 'tough love' with these demonically possessed cyber-loons of I.com as the more effective strategy of engagement. With what they do here, they actually demonstrate everything that Freire is talking about in his book.

Malcolm X

Would have called it exactly as it is about the hype surrounding a certain so-called minority who are essentially an extension of the racist and imperialist policies of the state of Israel and the USA. The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan, who was a student of Malcolm's, already has.

nozarmahallati

There is one bloc of interests I absolutely advocate merciless violence against, and that is the pharmeceutical and psychiatric industry you are truckin' for. Besides being certifiable fruit loops and dangerous psychotics in their own right, they are all also to the last of them unrepetent criminals who should all be put out of their own misery and the misery they are causing everywhere to the human race. So may I recommend you take the Xanax you prescribe and do what you should do with it!

The reference to beating your wife went right over your head...

Malcolm X didn't disparage persecuted minorities

And if you think you are anywhere close to a person who battled racism, you should take the commenter's advice below and see a psychiatrist ASAP!

Your record speaks for itself.  You bash a persecuted minority day in and day out on this and several other websites.  You have no shame for your constant propagating of discrimination, violence and persecution against the Baha'is.  And you further confirm your fanatical and violent mindset here by saying that Salman Rushdie desevres a death fatwa because he wrote a bad novel!  You are a sick individual. Get some help!

Onlyiran

If Malcolm X was a racist, then so am I!

"I am here to tell you that I charge the white man. I charge the white
man with being the greatest murderer on earth. I charge the white man
with being the greatest kidnapper on earth. There is no place in this
world that this man can go and say he created peace and harmony.
Everywhere he's gone he's created havoc. Everywhere he's gone he's
created destruction. So I charge him. I charge him with being the
greates kidnapper on this earth! I charge him with being the greatest
murderer on this earth! I charge him with being the greatest robber and
enslaver on this earth! I charge the white man with being the greatest
swine-eater on this earth. The greatest drunkard on this earth! He can't
deny the charges! You can't deny the charges! We're the living proof
*of* those charges! You and I are the proof. You're not an American, you
are the victim of America. You didn't have a choice coming over here.
He didn't say, "Black man, black woman, come on over and help me build
America". He said, "Nigger, get down in the bottom of that boat and I'm
taking you over there to help me build America". Being born here does
not make you an American. I am not an American, you are not an American.
You are one of the 22 million black people who are the *victims* of
America. You and I, we've never see any democracy. We didn't see any...
democracy on the-the cotton fields of Georgia, wasn't no democracy down
there. We didn't see any democracy. We didn't see any democracy on the
streets of Harlem or on the streets of Brooklyn or on the streets of
Detroit or Chicago. Ain't no democracy down there. No, we've never seem
democracy! All we've seen is hypocrisy! We don't see any American Dream.
We've experienced only the American Nightmare! "

~ El Hajj Malik al-Shabbaz Malcolm X

Yes

Yes, I stopped beating my wife when she died.

I would still recommend you looking into something like Xanax...it will do you good

The last refuge of scoundrels

And hacks is the kind of baseless accusations you and your fellow hacks hurl against people you are incapable of responding to in any reasoned manner.

Have you stopped beating your wife?

peaCOCK

How many hours a day do you spend on the internet?

You have at least a dozen usernames on here which seem to start and carry conversations amongst themselves (like me, Irene and I) and you write blogs on several sites too.

Do the meds keep you up at night and also prevent you from getting a shut eye?  

Talk to your psychiatrist and ask if he would write you a Rx for Xanax or similar.

Good luck....wish you all the best

Gabriel Garcia Marquez

Is a crap writer himself and never even came close to attaining the genius of the true master he emulated: Jorge Luis Borges. He wrote one relatively ok novel which has been hyped beyond what it actually deserves. Among the disciples of Borges, Umberto Eco is the better man.

Latin American Liberation Theology is not remotely about secularism. Truly, Zendanian, you are so out of your depth in this conversation about Freire it is embarrassing.

Khomeini did Rushdie the ultimate favor to the latters career and, it is thanks to Khomeini, that Rushdie has been laughing all the way to the bank ever since. I know all about Rushdie's pre-SV award by the IRI. This is what makes me totally suspicious about the whole fatwa. Perhaps Rushdie actually made a deal with the regime. Who knows?

Liberation Theology is secularized religion, it is this-worldly

You could make all the jokes and cartoons of Jesus you want, none of the Liberation Theology ministers  is going to put a death sentence on you, attack an embassy or give a hoot.

Islam still needs to be secularized. And that's where the main significance of Satanic Verses lays.

Satanic Verses is probably the most significant attempt in secularizing Muhammad, Islam and all that's related to it.

If Gabriel Garcia Marquez says Rushdie is a great writer; if his books are given awards even by IR itself; that is the best indication we're dealingwith a great writer in here.

On the other hand a little coolie of the mullahs is always a little coolie of thugs.

Congratulations.

Therefore, according to the resident Baha'i basher

the penalty for a badly written novel (even if it's indeed as bad as he says it is) is death!  Good to know.

I'm glad that he's showing his true colors:  that being he is a deranged, racist fanatic.    

Actually Rushdie got the prize for both of his books before

Satanic Verses. Midnight's Children and Shame.

And the prize wasn't for the book, but for the best Persian translation of the year.

First it was " Midnights Children" that got the prize for the best translation of the year.

Next year Rushdie's other book "Shame" also got the prize for the best Persian translation of the year.

The funniest part is that, the Minister of Ershad at the time was none other then Khatemi, who was going to a president of IR in a few years.

Rushdie himself in his latest book "Joseph Anton" ( to be reviewed here, very soon , by your humble servant) mentions the award for Shame, but doesn't know about the award given to Midnight's Children, or who was in charge of that Minsitry at that time.

So in conclusion, we see that before all that death sentence none sense Rushdie's books were good enough to be given the official awards by ministries of IR, but our little mullah's coolie still thinks Rushdie can't write!!!

Zendanian

I already responded to your silly claim about Paulo Freire. You  obviously missed my comment about Freire's commitment to Liberation Theology, i.e. Christian Marxism.

Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses is a badly written novel. It is no masterpiece and generally is not considered to be one by any legitimate literary circles.

the funny thing about Rushdie is

Rushdie got a prize for his previous book just a year or so prior to The Satanic Verses, in Iran, by the Ministry of Guidance:

//fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%B1%D8%B4%D8%AF%DB%8C#.D8.A2.D8.AB.D8.A7.D8.B1

He was awarded his prize in Tehran in front of cameras of Seda va Seema!

PF aka Vahid supports Khomeni's death sentence against Rushdie

Yet he claims he's for the oppressed?!?!?

It's like our ex-SAVAKis in here caliming to uphold Human Rights under the shah by torturing his opponents.

Paulo Freire was all about secularism and democracy.

You, PF aka Vahid, Maryam jon,... are all about religion and theocracy. These notions are not compatible, they are not reconcilable.

Obviously you haven't read Satanic Verses or any other work from Salman Rushdie.

That novel is now established as a masterpiece of 20th century literature, and according to Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Salman Rushdie is one of the most outstanding writers in English language.

Gabriel Garcai Marquez knows what he's talking about.

On the other hand you remain a pathetic, clueless, unrepentant, coolie of thugs in Tehran.

Shame on you.

lies again and again

"Quran never ever mentions that those who reject Islam as a religion or those who mock God or prophet should be put to death."

Yes it does.

Yes it does!

//quran.com/5/33

Truth must be said

1. Yes. 14 CENTURIES indeed. 14 centuries of Jihad fi sabilillah and holy war. Thanks to Islam and the Quran:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquests

"...cut off their hands and feet from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land." 5:33

2.  MAKE SURE YOU DONT MISS THIS ONE EITHER:

//iranian.com/main/2012/sep/pagan-roots-allah

What that is done to Salman W/O doubts is an act of oppression

So my answer to the Zendamian's  question is yes Salman is oppressed here ..

The real question is what the hell is death Fatwa?  Where does it come from? Quran never ever mentions that those who reject Islam as a religion or those who mock God or prophet should be put to death.   Any Fatwa for this is equal to first degree murder anyone who supports this is not  a muslim.  

There you go.  

Cyberspace's Oppressors

As the blogger is trying sensibly to stick with the subject by his/her elucidating comments below, the other known individuals are as a norm wasting the readers' time with all the nonsense possible.

1. "14 centuries of ...... "

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

"The ink of a scholar is more holy than the blood of a martyr"

2. Arab (the 'rab' or GOD part of it!) GOD?: "Say: 'call upon him as Allah, or call upon him as the Merciful; whichever (name) you choose, to him belong the most beautiful names....... " (Quran 17:110)

3. Those who campaigned with the killing of Salman Rushdie, like Khomeini himself, had never read his book & had nothing else better to do with their lives.

With an apology to the respected blogger for responding the third party here with this remark. It will not happen again.

Truth

Because Salman Rushdie wrote an overall crap novel and never deserved the notoriety he got.

When Muslims started their campaign to kill Salman Rushdie, who

was the opperssed?

And who was the oppressor?

PF can you answer this very simple query?

Probably not.

If you tally up the numbers of all the "kuffar"

Killed by Muslims since the middle of the 7th century CE, arguably it still does not come anywhere near the number maimed, brutalized, massacred, genocided and ethnically cleansed since the white European man stepped off his boats in Africa, the New World, Australasia and Asia. The number killed in the wars of the 20th century alone far exceeds by a double-triple factor those 13-14 centuries in total combined.

Whitey has so far proven himself history's greatest, most debauched, most callous, most heartless and most sophisticated murderer yet!

PF

Actually, it does compare, and it compares very well. The muslims have been slaughtering the Kuffar for 14 centuries now. Millions have died. Lost their heads. Chopped off. raped.

Because of this ayah and the likes of it.

For the Arab God. 

Fesenjoon2

This still does not compare to dropping hundreds of tons of bombs on the heads of Muslims worldwide who do not comply with the dictates of your beloved Western Imperialists by handing over their nations and resources without question to these imperialist pigs. Nor does it compare with the utter callousness of dropping two atomic bombs on the heads of the Japanese in August 1945, etc. The scale of the brutality and carnage of Western Imperialsts to that of Islamists simply does not compare, and whether you agree or not does not make any difference to the fact. So I submit that 3 years after the events subsequent to June 2009, which otherwise could have well brought down that regime, this is why the IRI is still there and firmly intact. The folks in Iran are simply siding with the lesser devil they know against the Most Great Satan of Yankee/Limey/Zionist/NATO/Wahhabi imperialist military terrorism and predatory capitalism whose record makes the record of our contemporary jihadists look like nothing by comparison.