Iranian.Com Sourcewatched

Iranian.Com Sourcewatched
by NUR
06-Apr-2009
 

Here it is, the Iranian.Com Sourcewatch article.

I find it quite amusing that according to the site's own statistics 70-80% of the users come from North America. What is more interesting is that one of the advisors of this site is the Asia Society which was set-up by John Rockefeller and is tied to the Rockefeller foundation.

No wonder (besides other closer to home reasons) that there is a pronounced pro-Baha'i spin here on this site. The Rockefellers and Rockefeller money is the nexus. Go figure...

 

See articles Bill Gates, Philanthropy and Social Engineering 

//www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/18198

&

The Project For A New American Humanitarianism: Olympian Ambitions from Darfur to Tibet and Beijing

//www.swans.com/library/art14/barker04.html

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Ari Siletz

NUR

by Ari Siletz on

In a clean debate I wouldn't have suggested that you linked the NED to iranian .com. It does not logically follow from your statement. But let's be fair (justice) you set the rules for this game. From an ad on this site you have jumped to the conclusion that jj was one of the gunmen on the grassy knoll. Which, by the way, he wasn't.

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Oh and this one for JJ:

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NUR blog about Sufis

by Pawn (not verified) on

NUR I think you now have a friend in Rosie if you write blogs about Sufis as you explained. I believe if you write them now and others try to inject Bahai stuff into it she'll (as we say in Farsi) tear their stomachs apart! in order to keep the subject standing on its own merits.

By the way after reading the comments, I looked for Tarot cards for Rosie, you and me.

This one is for Rosie:

//www.facade.com/tarot/description/?Deck=pall...

This one for NUR:

//www.facade.com/tarot/description/?Deck=pall...

This one for Pawn:

//www.facade.com/tarot/description/?Deck=pall...


jimzbund

Nur,One man spy team !

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 Baba damet garm zadi roo dasteh Jimzbund ! with the amount of time that you are spending here you are either  a paid agent , a wealthy bum or on welfare ! in any case , you are providing us with some fun and insite into the world of mixed wires and signals .

let's see what my lable will be !  

Bund, Jimz Bund


Anonymous Observer

Let the Poor Guy Go!

by Anonymous Observer on

بابا جان این نور رو ولش کنید.  یک آدم بیمار رو اینقدر اذیت نکنید.  فردا کارش به تیمارستان میکشه.  کار و باری و بیمهٔ درمانی هم که نداره (عکسش رو دیدید؟ تو جنگل زندگی‌ میکنه).  فردا از پول ما بیچارها که اینجا مالیات میدیم باید خرج تیمارستنش رو بدن.  ولش کنید به حال خودش.

نور جان درست میگی‌ عزیزم.  همش کار این بهایهای ذلیل شدست.  همه جا هستند ا‌ند همهٔ قدرت تو دستشونه.  حالا برو دوات رو بخور و بگیر بخواب.  فردا بیشتر دربارش صحبت میکنیم. 

سمسم جان خیلی‌ جالب نوشتی‌.  دستت درد نکنه. 

 

 

 


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Now wasn't this fun?

by Pawn (not verified) on

Now wasn't this fun? Everyone talks in their own native and familiar language and environment. One and all, all-in-one.

I saw more LOLs yet they want to ban him! So much energy so little self-control and so much logic of LOL!

Reminds me of the housing crisis and the care free spending money that you don't have or buying things you can't afford.


NUR

Get a life!

by NUR on

And here are two powerful antidotes to your new Norton product - courtesy of good old fashioned Iranian hackers - and all similar sorts of corporate sponsored BS by your rootless, corrupted, dumbed down and sanitized North American fad-consumerist infected, loser, retro, stuck in the 1970s mentality, pseudo-Iranian, jingoistic, crypto-fascistic, self-hating moronic culture of materialistic driven, greedy, stupid, shallow, kha'en sefat and myopically clueless dweebs, i.e.

//www.chalghooz.net/

//hoder.com/weblog/archives/cat_regime_change.shtml

I.e. the site the Asia Society/NED endowed JJ boycotted here where nothing is sacred, particularly the truth. One has got to wonder why?

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SamSamIIII

Norton anti virus

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Norton just shipped a new product "Ommatie virus cleaner" For those whom the Ommatie virus has traveled from the A*$ to their brain causing Ommatie delusion , conspiracy, tah riish, dahan kaf kardeh, "Mobaheseh", "Mobaheleh", akh tofan & ..etc  .  Ommatie Nurali take note ! . Miserable brainwashed mavalii .

Cheers!!! 

 

//www.iranianidentity.blogspot.com/

//www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia


NUR

B"H"

by NUR on

How typically argumentatively Zionist of you, ARI. And here I thought you could be reasoned with. So, let me get this straight, when I casually mention the NED, then you jump to conclusions and say I suggested that I said the NED and the iranian.com are connected, when I didn't, that is valid reasoning in your view? I don't think you know what fair reasoning or impartial evidence is. Six decades of living in a seige enviroment does that to people. Go figure...So methinks, brother, you are protesting too vigorously -and it shows. I've touched something very raw and sensitive here. No doubt about it, however much you wave your hands, because you people sound and are transparently acting as if you are all in a form of serious damage control!

Now if you can dismiss the actual evidence I have thus far submitted, then talk. Right now, you do what all Zionists do best - deny, twist, bait, switch and run. Luckily I know the tactics of the sayanim inside and out and have long experience in dealing with it successfully... 

Baruch HaShem!

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Q

Asia Society is just a pawn of the Europe Society

by Q on

any fool knows this much...

I'm surprised NUR hasn't figured this out. I thought he was good with this kind of investigation.


NUR

Actually...

by NUR on

I have consistently maintained that the ASIA SOCIETY is not in the advertising business. Unless you haven't read what I have said, your argument is a blatant straw man, and a misdirection. My, my how the waving of the hands get wavier...

Go back and re-read what I said from the get-go... 

And FYI I am actually at the job ;-) 

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Ari Siletz

Rosie

by Ari Siletz on

You spiked it. I see no evidence from NUR--much less all evidence--and no chain of reasoning that corresponds to established empiricial or deductive methods. There are less abstract ways to put this, but I will refrain. 

rosie is roxy is roshan

Yeah, Nur, I have a lot of time and obviously so do you..

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

I didn't work today and I got all caught up in this, it's been so fascinating. I honestly don't know where the time flew.

But I did come back here just to tell you that it's time for me to turn in.  But since you posted to me on it, let me answer you on Asia Society first.

I understand that Asia Society is Son of Rockefeller. I understand the Rockefeller Foundation has its tentacles everywhere.

But before, you said Asia was an ADVERTISER and non-profits only ADVERTISE with publications they're in collusion with. And I said well, does that mean that the NYT and VV and TONY are ALSO in collusion with the Rockefeller Foundation, if it means that i.c. is.

And now you're switching things around. You're not playing fair. Now you're saying that they are a DONOR (which they're not and which Sourcewatch will tell you).

They just advertised here, Nur. Once. Why are you making them into a donor now Nur?

First it was advisors, then it was advertising agency, FINALLY we agreed on advertisers, and now that I'm telling you they also advertise in the Times, Voice and Time Out New York, you're making them a donor.

C'mon, Nur, you know that's not fair.

I'm going to bed. Could you pleae do me a favor and post my tarot reading for me for tomorrow? I'd really love to read it.

Thanks,
Roxane


NUR

Are you paid to be here or do you have time on your hands?

by NUR on

I just made a comment to you in another thread. You seem to have completely garbled what I am suggesting. But, yeah, the ASIA SOCIETY is a spawn of the Rockefeller Foundation, which has its tentacles everywhere. If JJ has some existing donor relationship with them then by linkage his site and his activities are linked to the RF's greater agenda. Geddit?  

My Lord, do you have time on your hands to post here or what?

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rosie is roxy is roshan

So Nur, you're talking about weighing all the evidence, not

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

just parts of it. But you insist that jj's paid by the Rockefeller Foundation because he ran an ad for an Iranian art exhibit of Asia Society's once.

And I keep asking you if that means that when the New York Times and the Village Voice and Time Out New York run ads for Asia Society's art exhibits, does that mean they also work for the Rockefeller Roundation. (Remember, the times is centrist, the Voice is Left and Time Out New York s nothing, it's just an entertainment magazine.

And you won't answer that one simple question. Are you being honest in weighing all the evidence?

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What else did you get in my Tarot reading?( Oh, and what was the first card you pulled up for Aftabeh? That one I'm sure lots of people would like to know. LOL)


NUR

Mishpat = 'Adl = Justice

by NUR on

 B"H"

You ask: 

How can we tell the difference between a sincere attempt at justice for all and fake political maneuverings?

Very simply! Weigh all the evidence - not just partial bits of it - but the whole kitten kaboodle, every element without exception. Do not dismiss or exclude anything and put everything in its proper place. I also like the way that Kabbalists discuss the notion of mishpat (justice) and correspond it to the reality of the Tzaddik (the righteous one) as the cosmic balance setting things in order and in the right - often in pretty whacky ways, like the life of the Baal Shem Tov shows. But this is a continual endeavour. In such notions of justice, justice is actually not blind at all but all very aware as to what it is doing, as it is the essence of awareness itself and the Divine's own balance! As such protecting the innocent and the dispossessed sometimes also entails what the Book of Exodus (15:3) says about the nature of HaShem,

Adonai (Y H V H) ish milchamah Adonai ( Y H V H) Schmo

'The Lord is a man of war. The Lord is His Name'.

Baruch HaShem

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rosie is roxy is roshan

The only blog I ever remember that was near that close

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was a few hundred a few weeks ago. And that was just that poetry game that people were playing where the last word has to be the first word of the next one or some such thing. It  was just a game. It doesn't count.

Beyond that Anonymouse once had one called "So disappointed with this website" last summer (funny coincidence, isn't it?) I think it had 270.

Very very unusual to go over two hundred.

Unusual to get up to here too. The blog is very highly commented.

Fish, darling, what bolg did you see with a thousand comments?


rosie is roxy is roshan

I've called you Wahib now maybe ten times.

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

This is the only time you've said it's WahiD since I started calling you that.


Fish Here

Nur, darling

by Fish Here on

Though you seem to be doing really well in breaking the record on the amount of b.s. you can dish out, I'd hate to break it to you, but you are nowhere near close to breaking any records of comments received on this site!  Your 140+ comments don't hold a candle to a blog which received in excess of 1000 comments recently!  You are going to have to spew a lot more hate and contempt before you can even come close to the blogs that received the most number of comments!

A tarot reader, efshagar prophet!  Az har angoshtet yek honar mirizeh!  Baba, to digeh ki hasti?!!


NUR

The Name is WAHID, Sasan

by NUR on

Methinks the Pasbanai doth protest too much. And kindly learn the name for the enth time...

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rosie is roxy is roshan

No, Nur, don't draw a new card.

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

Tell me the whole reading. What were the other cards? What did you find about me? Tell me, I really want to know. I don't care if other people read it. You can tell me the truth.


rosie is roxy is roshan

You do tarot?

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

I do bibliomancy and read astrology charts. I'm also an expert at the Enneagram. You and I are both Ennea-point 6. Do you know what that means?

I've had a couple of excellent Tarot readers. Unfortunately both of them moved away.

Try me again. See what card you get. i'm not debauched. Not fundamentally. You may be picking up on the energy of someone I'm very close to who's debauched.

Read me again. See what you get.

And btw you don't have to convince the people here who are trying to communicate with you that Jahanshah's no saint. We all know that. So does he. So why bother, Wahib? Why even bother.

But he isn't  in collusion with the Rockefeller Foundation. He's his own person. For better and for worse. He's not in anyone's pay but his own.


Ari Siletz

NUR

by Ari Siletz on

Thanks for the link. Many of us are not naive to the possibility that human rights issues are sometimes used as pawns in politics. I encourage exposures of such abuses of human suffering as foils for creating more of the same. But in all sincerity, is it not possible that some of us are earnest in our desire for peace? Here's a question: how can we tell the difference between a sincere attempt at justice for all and fake political maneuverings?  And importantly for this discussion, what measure of "beyond a reasonable doubt" do we use to judge a communications medium such as this one.  Keep in mind that justice isn't just about hanging the guilty; it is also about protecting the innocent.

NUR

The violin choir & the 7 of Cups

by NUR on

I'm looking forward to being banned by Aftabeh Javid. I'm surprised he hasn't done it yet.  By all means, go ahead and ban me, Aftabeh.

And what is the record for number of comments on a given iranian.com blog? Perhaps this one has broken all of them. Go figure...

Now if JJ feels attacked, then he should probably question himself as to the reasons underlying why there are whole constituencies of people out there floating around who feel the need to settle outstanding scores with this two-faced, duplicitous journalist-for-hire going all the way back to his days at the University of New Mexico, and maybe further back. Rather than hiding behind the skirts of a dependable clique of people he calls out to do his public hits for him - or lying and fudging statistical information on Sourcewatch - maybe he can actually get the demon off his back and actually do a mea culpa (tawba, as they say in Arabic) and be done with the whole schabang.

Maybe, just maybe, if instead of unleashing bigotted (and mentally ill) sectarian zealots, attack dogs and cliquey lynch mobs on people, which your groupthink labels trolls, everytime there is a real issue on the table, you could actually address the issue instead of giving free reign to your collective blood lust and lynch mob fantasies.

You people wonder how the mullahs have managed to survive this long? Here's part of your answer, so quit playing the violin on behalf of the various Aftabehs around and deal with outstanding issues of grievance by whomsoever addresses them because DENIAL is not a river in Egypt! This is a fundamental lesson the Haifan Baha'is should've learned a long time ago, and still haven't, to their impending doom!

Rosie, I am ignoring you because I earlier did a Tarot spread - which I am quite good at and consult daily - and the first card I took out was the 7 of Cups (known as Debauch in Crowley's Thoth deck which is the deck I predominantly work with).

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rosie is roxy is roshan

He doesn't have a list of tactics.

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

He has only one tactic.

And it's not really a tactic. It's a...strategy...for survival.  against a cruel world. And the world Is cruel...

so...it's him (us..his group) against them...the cruel world..read: Bahai.

Tactics...it sounds too...military...


Q

Nima, I'm not Bahai!

by Q on

do you understand that your paranoid list of tactics is completely self-referential? It's meaningless because you call whoever you want "Bahai" and whatever you want "Bahai tactics". It's all in your head!


rosie is roxy is roshan

Shekar,

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

I didn't even see you there. I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about the three people I'd specifically addressed. One of whom hadd already replied but I didn't know it. Ari and I cross-posted.


rosie is roxy is roshan

You see what I mean? Too convoluted.

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

Endless ramifications.

All I want to know is if Wahib believes that the New YorkTimes and the Village Voice and Time Out New York are also tools of the Rockefeller Foundation because they advertise events of Asia Society/s.

It's a simple question. Yes or no.

And if yes, why?


Shekar

Rosie

by Shekar on

I am not ignoring you, I'm merely ignoring the ignorant Nur.  How many times and how many trolls will it take you people to realize that all of this is one person's quest for attention by outraging everyone into reaction?  Do you not remember the other recent trolls on the site?

I wished Mr. Javid was not so accommodating to this character who so obviously is full of malice to him, to this site, and to everyone here.  He uses language and content that is rude, defamatory, and libelous.  Other users have been banned from this site for similar behavior toward others.  Why not this guy?  Is it because Mr. Javid himself is the target of this man's attacks this time? 

If you all ignore the ignorant, they will stop feeding on the attention and will either speak in rational ways or will move on.  The other internet trolls only moved on after everybody started ignoring them.

Understad and appreciate your power as a responsible audience, people.


NUR

For ARI

by NUR on

Baruch HaShem! 

See the following article,

//www.swans.com/library/art14/barker04.html

 The Project For A New American Humanitarianism: Olympian Ambitions from Darfur to Tibet and Beijing by Michael Barker

 B"H"

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