No Fear

Here's the Current Analysis-IRAN IS DONE

Iran is done. 

Iran is done shipping bombs to Iraq and Afghanistan.Everything coming out of that country will be inspected for explosive's.And everything going in is subject to Worldwide Sanction.

This also means Hezbollah and Hamas are done.

Iran is done fighting 'Proxie' Wars and has just began it's receiving end of the same.

As the book says 'Do Unto Others as you would have them Do Unto You'.I suggest they repent as they have TONS of Bombings to be returned from their surrounding countries.

Now we have caught the IRI and have the Proof they will not go unpunished.I am sorry for the Iranian victims of the IRI but we cannot let Iraqi's,Afghani's,Isreali's and American's be the victim of the victim of their Proxie war's anymore.

It is for this reason they are under suspicion of their Nuclear program.They have no trust,no credibility and are proven Murderous liars.Their motive on Isreal is WAR.Their motive against the USA is WAR.They have been killing hundred's of thousands with Iranian bombs.They will not be trusted,Talk is DONE..

No Fear

I gave you the answer. Not once, but ten times. Not my problem you are not in a mood to pay attention haji.

Seems like you need to rest more than just your case.

Doctor X,

I keep repeating myself over and over without any reply from you.

What you are suggesting has been tried before with no success. We got the short end of the stick. I rest my case.

No fear

Khahee deed. Hala hey laj kon.

Ayandeye jalebi nakhahi dasht ba in deedgah haji:)

You chose to remain silent and not reply. That more than confirms to me that what you really want for iran is a bully status and all this nonsense about winning in the face of zions... an in the face of an imminent war we should do this and that and all this mental gymnastics on the anatomy of politics , particularly when it comes to iran is nothing but smokes and mirrors. You are just looking for an excuse to hid behind it all and Bingo you have found one.

Too bad your stuff does not sell around here brother.

Sure ...

My idealist friend, sure... 

Majnoon

You have gone completely Berserk.

Look at what you just said. sounds just like something Hitler may be in favor of.

Politics is and has always been about negotiation and compromise, that is why we have politicians who as corrupt and double-faced as they maybe, whose jon is to facilitate the process. Those same politicians could also server as the democratic leaders of their respected country. What you have in mind and are describing, is a perfect image of a dictator.

What i described was far from marriage counseling. You have got your $%$% confused partner.

The politics that sounds ideal to you, is the politics of Changiz khan, or Mosoulini, the very individuals who could have cared less who was right or who was wrong and utilized their artistic skills in leveraging and advancing their goals!! that really got the world far, didn't it?
EU by its very definition is a collaborative effort amongst nations who manage their affaisr through peaceful means. are you suggesting otherwise?

and why is it that things were never about common sense? Don't you think that is root cause of all our ordeals to this point and now you want to make it even worse?

Doctor X,

You are naive because you believe politic is about a group of politicians who use common sense and logic to solve their problems through negotiation.  We tried that. We tried that during Rafsanjani era. We tried it during Khatami's era. We even send them a letter suggesting a negotiation over all outstanding issues. Politic is not marriage counselling as you think.

Politic is the art of using leverages to advance your goals. No one cares who is right or wrong. Maybe what you are advocating works within the european union ( which even there is doubtful in my mind ), but in middle east it has never been about common sense.

No fear

want your son? are you going "hank hill" on me? i got your son right here bud... come on over...

You did not understand yet again. I was not suggesting bowing down to other countries, be it they are superpowers or not. By negotiating we will not only be addressing US's concerns, (see this is one of those spots where your true harsh and radical tendencies shows through, you insist on interpreting things one way). And negotiation by its nature, and by definition requires letting go and listening to others issues and concern , so as to conduct matters in the most peaceful and conflict-avoiding way.

No that is not what they are saying. What they have wanted was more transparency and more openness from Iranians, Which was refused and taken to mean all the things that was not supposed to be, by those who just like you thought this was as an automatic threat to their integrity and sovergnity, Until it got blown outta proportion.

Since there was so much secrecy and hiding to begin with, there was no choice but to assume that something wrong is going on and that is what they upped the ante.

Doctor X,

Damn son, don't be naive. As i said before, what you are suggesting to have a more moderate government and try to solve our problem through negotiation by addressing US concerns has been tried before unsuccessfully. What makes you think it will work again?

They are saying Iran has no justification for its enrichment activity and it must be frozen for unlimited time until we gave them a good reason why we need enrichment, otherwise it must be for building a bomb. How would you address their concern?

AMir

Our buddy's 2 riali is a little crooked and he is just being too serious here, he can not pick up on that joke. Good job:)

Natars

You have the completely wrong outlook on the whole deal. Your ideas and core beliefs, as hard as you may try to make them appear revolutionary albeit in a constructive format, begin to sound more radical than the most radical of ideas that have been proposed and debated here on this site . This becomes more apparent in each and every comment you post.

Let me tell you where the big flaw is in your reasoning. Had we managed to pick a more moderate and more conciliatory-prone government, what comes across to you as capitualting to the international pressure would have been perceived as what it really was and meant to be, a negotiation process whereby all sides can discuss their concerns, and therefore would have provided them with a chance to get the plugs outta the way, so there would be no reasons for mistrusting one another.

Your statement, which goes to show your core political belief, that regardless of the nature of our government in iran we are doomed to do what others tell us or else, we are going down, speaks volumes about your true stance on the issues, and negates head on everything that you have said so far. It is as if you have totally disrespected all the norms and pacts in the world of international politics and dismissed it altogether. Another proof of that is that you constantly talk about "harming israel's interest in the region and around the world" and Iran to be in a leading position to Stirr things up in the Middle east. as if we need anymore chaos around us!

No Fear,

A halo can only be placed around someone very holy , like an imam or grand ayatollah to be visible by ordinary people. As far as i know, Ahmadinejad was not a grand ayatollah, he entered university ranked 132 overall and got his PHD in civil engineering in 1997. The fact that Ahmadinejad made that Halo remark raised many eyebrows in Iran. I found it interesting and a sign of more exciting developements in Iran's recent politics to come.

Halos are often a sign of interesting and exciting future political developments. Angels and jinns are even more interesting and exciting. The IRI is a very interesting and exciting place. Cheers  :-) 

Amir,

I disagree. A Mousavi's win would have been a continuation of the same traditional system , an oligarchic religious class distinguished by their leftist economical outlooks. (  Rafsanjani is a part of this class even when he tried to adopt world bank formulas to fix Iran's economy ).

Ofcourse there would be less sanctions against Iran if we gave in to  international pressure led by US to freeze our enrichment. I said several times before that the nature of Iran's government plays no part in how we are perceived in their eyes. Its how we react to the  way they are dictating the policies specially in the most important part of the world. If they don't like it, then you become public enemy number one.

A halo can only be placed around someone very holy , like an imam or grand ayatollah to be visible by ordinary people. As far as i know, Ahmadinejad was not a grand ayatollah, he entered university ranked 132 overall and got his PHD in civil engineering in 1997. The fact that Ahmadinejad made that Halo remark raised many eyebrows in Iran. I found it interesting and a sign of more exciting developements in Iran's recent politics to come.

How different would things

How different would things have been if Mousavi had become the IRI's president rather than AN? Perhaps not much different at all....But then again, there might not have been anywhere near the same degree of international sanctions against the IRI (because of all the usual nonsense about IRI having a "moderate" president--the same gibberish we were fed during the terms of the charlatan Khatami). Maybe, AN becoming president wasn't such a bad thing after all--BTW, is that a halo I see around his head?

No Fear

You got it, That is the one. The boot boys:)

You're damn straight I am concerned. You on the other hand are totally disconcerned and are in this fantasy la la land of Ohh" iranian politics is a complicated topic". Boro baba hal nadari. Their millitary presence IS A FACT OF LIFE and you have absolutely NO SAY in it, no matter how hard you Ghod Ghod and Shakhoo Shoone bekeshi,

One does not have to dig too deep in your writings to see what is really going on in your head. I mean, why on earth would you even be concerned about "stirring things up" in the ME? that makes you a true Hypocrite who wants to see a slow process of change towards a better and more democratic government inside the country, yet advocates for a completely different approach dealing with our neigbors. I am just amazed at your Ranting power!! Do you actually sit down and think before you write or does it just come to you?

Gaining results... Pleasing western media. Yeah! keep playing with words. You sound like EL rushmo,!

No Fear jan,

Khodet-ro ham agar bokoshi, you won`t be able to repaint your beloved AN as something else than the anti-iranian ugly Monkey that he is!

I`m wondering how Imam Zaman looks like if in the evening rise his selected chief of government looks like this, a blog on this issue would also be appreciated.

Doctor X,

Ouch,

Permission? Who is suppose to give permission? The middle eastern countries or those who have their boots where it doesn't belong?

It seems you are concerned about the "stepping on their toes" since this might have dire consequences for Iran.  What do you suggest? Specially when Ahmadinejad is about to go to New York?  Should we just accept their crappy nuclear packaged deal? How about their military presence in our neighborhood? Should we send them nameye fadayat shavam ?

I believe the best of what you are suggesting has been tried during the reformist era with results completly against our interests. Politic is not about pleasing western media. Politic is about gaining results with the least tools available.

Good to see you.

No fear

You and those who think like you will NEVER have the permission to stirr things up!! in the middleeast. That is right. You read right, THE PERMISSION. 

 You may as well quit dreaming when you can. Or more like wet dreams. The world out there is so much more powerful and mightier than what you think and one of these days your Harto poorts and "stepping on their toes" is going to cost you BIG TIME.

Targol aziz,

I will post a blog about Hojatiyeh and i have gathered quite a few quotes from Khomeini as well as others who wrote about Hojatiyeh.

I am looking forward to your inputs as well since ( as you probably noticed ) not too many people on this site know about this group and their ideology. Your background and research can help my blog greatly. Looking forward to our exchanges. Sincerely.

هوشنگ عزیز، به این آقا پسر ، یا دختر خانوم لطفا ملایم صحبت کنید!

ایشان زود رنج هستند، به آقای ججج شکایت میکنند و شما رو تبعید میکنند از این سایت! در ضمن از یکی‌ دیگر از یوزر اید‌های فرونشون استفاده کرده و به شما و امثال شما یک مشت فحش هجتیی خواهر مادری هم میدهند.

ای جوان پر از ترس و واهمه ، با نام " نه ترس "!

"...Iran's legal rights faster than a whore dropping..."

I don't call you a Hojjati for nothing: A pants-wearing whore appeals to you!! Yuk!!

Sorry for the interruption. It's the 80-proof weekend thing...

Never increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything.

Jenaabe No Fear!

"#**& them and their......."

Jenaabe No Fear, haala tou een arasaat cheraa contoloeda az dast daadi!? I liked the name you came up with for that Targol guy so I will not bother you any more, although I don't agree with you.
BTW, hopefully next election there will be better choices, I will NOT vote for foreign (US/Israeli) controlled reformists (likes of Sazegara, Makhmalbaaf, Kazemzadeh...) under any circumstances despite my disagreements with Ahmadinejad. If reformists put forward a melli guy such as Dr. Khoraasaani (you know whom I am talking about *) I will vote for him.

Dr. Khoraasaani !=(not equal to) Mousavi 

Targol Margol,

For someone who knows nothing about Hojatiyeh except what the media has stated, you sure know how to make an ass out of yourself. i hope you will contribute to a blog i am working on about hojatiyeh so we can see the extend of your knowledge about Hojatiyeh.

However, I can't see the point you are trying to make on your post except personal attacks.

To NF: Spoken like a true Hojatieh fascist that you are

and you're still in denial about your origins: De Nile, is not only a river in Eygpt, is it?

You could organize hundreds of closet-Nazi "conferences" in Tehran, the fact remains: you're still an utterly insecure, fearful little midget ( emotionally, intellectually, physically,..), and as your latest standing goes, in your dying pangs, enjoy your last days.

Marhoum Jaan,

Whether the holocaust happened or whether 6ix million jews died is something that scholars should be able to debate and continue their research on it. If i question the number of jews who died there ( which i do ) , i shouldn't be persecuted for my idea should i?

But people are going to jail and losing their jobs for questioning some of these facts. This is wrong and points to a double standard imposed by western countries and led by zionists who are Iran's number one foreign threat.

I say hell with them and their double standard. Fuck them and their jewish superiority complexes. Let every muslim in middle east hear about these fabrications of history so when push comes to shove, they never second guess themselves to harm Israel's interest all over the world.

The holocaust conference was a success for Iran's immediate foreign policy requirements. It might have distorted our image among european countries. If you care for our image so badly, why don't you vote another incompetent reformist in office ( like Khatami ) next time ? You know, smiling for the cameras and having dinner with the pope and other foreign heads of states while giving up Iran's legal rights faster than a whore dropping her pants for the attention of a customer.

Is that what you want?

Ahamadinejad's stupid Holocaust remarks! (to No Fear)

"Strictly in strategical terms, questioning the holocaust served two main objectives. Expose the double standards....."

Jenaabe No Fear, I do agree with you that US/AIPAC/Israelis are and have been the biggest threat to Iran, however for exposing the west's double standards..., Iran did not and does not need to resort to that kind of gimmicks when contemporary crimes and double standards of US/Israel/west.... against people of region and Iran can readily and in daily basis be used to question them! Listen to NPR they don't even hide their double standards anymore!

BTW, although I disagree with Ahmadinejad I don't and have never called him a monkey (donkey maybe *), those are the terminologies of right wing fascist Israeli sycophants (abdolAIPACis).

(*) In Esfahani khar=idiot

great post

thank you!

Amir,

In my opinion, the problematic core of IR are those who were influenced greatly by others who successfully bonded revolutonary solutions ( the 70s revolutionary ideas and the quest to find justice ) with Islam , thus creating " Political Islam " as we know it today.

I look at IR politicians today and i can distinguish them by their economical policies, definition of justice and methods they advocate to reach their goals. Pay attention here; To me the "goal" itself is secondary and the advocated "method" is the primary focus. 

I can't group all them together since they don't fit together and if i did do that, it would be a primitive outlook towards the complex nature of our political structure.

You might find a few politicians that don't fit any description and can't be fully understood and are mysterious( Like Gholam Hossein Elham ), but generally you can draw a clear line between political groups and personalities in Iran based on the criteria i mentioned above.

No Fear,

I am not now nor have I ever been a follower of Shariati. Shariati was an Islamist. I am not. And for what it's worth, Shariati also was "anti-clerical" to a certain extent, as AN supposedly is as well. Big deal: you don't need clerics for Islamism (Sunni Islamism doesn't feature a large role for clerics; it doesn't make that brand of Islamism any less lousy and less ill-suited to the modern world). I oppose the IRI in its entirety, just as I would oppose the USSR and Marxism-Leninism in its entirety. And the USSR showed a lot more capacity for fundamental change under Khrushchev and Gorbachev than the IRI has ever shown. As someone who likes to denounce "leftists", you may also want to ponder why the most pro-IRI elements in the West are washed up Commies of the George Galloway ilk. Galloway has become a permanent fixture of IRI propaganda and is a veritable AN Groupie--just recently conducting a silly "interview" with him and addressing him (if I remember correctly) as Your Excellency. Few self-respecting mainstream Western conservatives would support the IRI. In the West, certain "radical" leftists and Islamists have become marriage partners. Many on the "Western" left adore AN, because they adore any barking dog that denounces the U.S. and predicts its collapse any day now. Fortunately, these folks don't make U.S. policy. 

Marhoum Jaan,

Israel is the biggest threat that Iran is facing today when it comes to external threats and the possibility of war.

Strictly in strategical terms, questioning the holocaust served two main objectives. Expose the double standards of a few who used freedom of expression to push their agenda forwards ( western countries ) and secondly, to position Iran as a leading country in the middle east to stand up against Israel. Imagine Israel attacking Iran right after the holocaust conference. Then Iran would be the eventual winner for exposing the zionists true face and therefore, in great position to stir things up in the middle east.

When faced with the possibility of an imminent war, you have to forget about how the "west" perceives us and instead focus on how to use every tool at your disposal to harm your enemy.

Trust me, Iran won't lose any money over holocaust remarks. We didn't lose any contracts over it. It was said, because it needed to be said at that time and place.

Now you can hate Ahmadinejad as a holocaust denier, a monkey looking dictator, a president who rapes boys in prison and kill girls on the street or whatever.  But from the strategical view point, he is one of the smartest politicians in Iran's recent history. He did prevent an attack while pushing hard for nuclear energy, didn't he?