The More Things Change !!

masoudA
by masoudA
29-Aug-2008
 
The more they stay the same........!!!
First of all let me start off by telling you I am totaly sure Hell will freeze over before Obama or any other liberal soul would ever enter the White House during times when USA is at war - fighting a war declared on them at September 11, 2001.
Having said that - let me tell you: I think Obama and Khomeini have many things in common - both came out of nowhere, pushed by certain European powers - designed to Screw things up in their respective countries. Individuals whom are brought-up to the top practicaly overnight, with totaly unclear and vague agenads, running on hollow deceitful meassages of "Change and Hope" with no means or intentions to back them up. Those Iranians who are 50 ande over - know well what I am talking about - rest of you just ask your elders.
Yesterday, riding on his high emotional horses after watching the Obama Speech, an Iranian/American Obama supporter (as well as Khomeini Supporter) was telling me how articulate Barak is !! In response to me asking for a couple of examples on EXACTLY WHAT OBAMA SAID that you find so great - he thought for 5 seconds (must have been a record for him) and said: Enough is Enough !!! That is the best and most articulate Obama line he could come-up with !! Test it for yourself - ask any Obama supporter for SPECIFIC AGENDAS and QUOTES they appreciate about Obama - and you get very little on specifics and direct agendas. What you will hear will range from CHANGE & HOPE to arguments on How bad Bush and Neocons are !!!

PS - Please don't treat this message as a promotion for McCain since it was certainly not the intention. As I said - Hell will freeze over before America elects a liberal team into the white house in war time.

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Programmer Craig - As an

by masoudA on

Programmer Craig -

As an Iranian American let me assure you - There are far more conservatives amongst us than leftist jokers.   Let me also warn you, what you see here as Iranian Liberal - does not represent what is known as liberalist in the west.   These are for the most part baboons turned anti establishment only because they missed the success boat.   The very same sentiment that caused them to align themselves with their Imam Khomeini in 1978 !!!  Carl Marx would turn in his grave knowing his followers formed a theocracy in the 20th Century !!!   They are very few in numbers, but these are people whom have been at war with the American Imperialism for decades - yet immigrated to America as soon as they found out the mullahs were not going to share power with them.    Worst yet - they have no clue where patriotism starts or how it benefits homelands.    As one who believes every society needs a right (conservative) and a left (liberal) wing - I am sorry to tell you, Iranian liberals have very little to offer when it comes to improve social rights or make changes for betterment of our society like any good liberal must do !!!  

Skatemom - Humor is the fool's last refuge !!  


programmer craig

old people

by programmer craig on

After wathing Jimmy Page doing "whole lotta love" at the Olympics, I have to admit I kinda agree with you about geriatric stupid people though. How far the might have fallen:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN-_up5dSW0

He's not American, though. And he's probably not a Republican.Damn... he should have at least turned up his amp though.


programmer craig

To the type in name

by programmer craig on

Temper, Temper, Programmer Craig!

You wish you had what it takes to get under my skin :)

For all the times you express your opinions about matters Iran and
Iranian

For all the times I've been told I shouldn't even be commenting here, because I'm not Iranian? No, I don't think so.

you hear an Iranian-American's viewpoint and you lose it
completely?!!

What other viewpoints do I get here? It's 99% Iranian-American viewpoints, right? You're only upset this time because I busted you (or your friend) being a jackass. Deal with it.

Skatermom, who is smart and witty and funny, and always respectcful
to everyone

Except Americans, right? Because her comments here have damn sure not been respectful towards Americans. She showed outright contempt for half of the American population.

is an Iranian American.

So?

This means that even if she
weren't born here, she is a naturalized US citizen.

So? You wnat me to bake her some cookies or something? 

She is a very good
US citizen, if you ask me.

Actually, I don't recall asking you. From what she says, I get the impression she came here to milk the system that she complains about. Her rich daddy probably paid for her "post-doctoral degree" and then she married a rich guy 20 years older than her and sits on her ass in Beverly Hills all day long posting stupid comments on Iranian.com. Am I right?

She takes an interest in US politics, while
raising a family and staying connected to the Iranian community through
this site. She expressed her opinion.

And by doing so, she viciously insulted half of the population in her adopted homeland. Again, does she deserve an award for that?

You express your opinions about Iran, Iranian politics, Iranian
history, and Iranian people all the time. Some of what you say is not
accurate. Some of what you say is not the best way in which something
could be said.

When have I ever insulted Iranians, in general? Never.

You are not an Iranian. Not even a naturalized one. You don't live
in Iran, so you don't pay taxes there, you don't participate in its
economy, work, or raise a family there. Those are your major
differences with Skatermom.

Yes. She has the option of returning to Iran with her post-doctoral degree. I would humbly suggest that if she dislikes Americans as much as she seems to, that she take advantage of that option and get the hell out of dodge.

<snipping a bunch of redundant BS>

Where do you get off calling another user an idiot or telling her to shut up?

Pretty sure I did that right here, and I'll do it again the next time I see an "Iranian-America" making insulting generalizations about Americans.

Come on Mister Craig! Return the courtesy extended to you by many
for a long time, sir! Have some tolerance for other points of view.

Insults don't qualify as "points of view". And while some here have shown me courtesy, many have not. I suspect you (whoever you are) are in teh "not" category.

P.S. We already knew you were a Republican. And no, most of us aren't Republicans! Where did you get that??!!

I doubt you know what "most people here" are. What would you call most Iranian-Americans? Liberals? I've yet to meet an Iranian-American (or an Iranian period) who I would call liberal. Progressives, perhaps? Yeah. Right. You think you are a good fit for the democratic party? Well, have fun with that.... but I find it kind of mind boggling that you would think Iranians (or Iranian-Americans) have a large amount of common ground with the Democratic party establishment. You think they'd agree? lol.


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Thanks for the props Ava.

by skatermom (not verified) on

Thanks for the props Ava. Programmer Craig, I'm sorry for insulting your grandfather, his voting record, old people, white people, Republicans, multinationals, veterans of the great war and last but not least Samsam. S**t man, you people drive me to drink. I'm going to the pub now for a tall pint of Stella. Or is drinking not allowed either?


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Programmer Craig

by Programmer Ava (not verified) on

Temper, Temper, Programmer Craig!

For all the times you express your opinions about matters Iran and Iranian, you hear an Iranian-American's viewpoint and you lose it completely?!! Come on Craig, be a a better sport!

Skatermom, who is smart and witty and funny, and always respectcful to everyone, is an Iranian American. This means that even if she weren't born here, she is a naturalized US citizen. She is a very good US citizen, if you ask me. She takes an interest in US politics, while raising a family and staying connected to the Iranian community through this site. She expressed her opinion.

You express your opinions about Iran, Iranian politics, Iranian history, and Iranian people all the time. Some of what you say is not accurate. Some of what you say is not the best way in which something could be said.

You are not an Iranian. Not even a naturalized one. You don't live in Iran, so you don't pay taxes there, you don't participate in its economy, work, or raise a family there. Those are your major differences with Skatermom.

Yet, you like to talk about all things Iranian on a website dedicated to Iranians worldwide. That's fine with us. At a minimum, we tolerate you. I have seen your driving some people here absolutely crazy!! Whether they control themselves or the moderators control the language with which you are addressed on this site, you don't get a lot of grief from people around here, at least not as much as you seem to deserve some days!

Where do you get off calling another user an idiot or telling her to shut up?

Come on Mister Craig! Return the courtesy extended to you by many for a long time, sir! Have some tolerance for other points of view.

P.S. We already knew you were a Republican. And no, most of us aren't Republicans! Where did you get that??!!

Take care and as Iranians offer to people who are steaming mad: Have a glass of cold water, sir!


programmer craig

By the way

by programmer craig on

Keith Obermann and Bill Maher are older than hell (older than me at least!) so what were you talking about with your "young people" crap?

They both looked pretty white too, last time I watched their programs.

Doesn't that mean, according to your expert analysis, they will be voting for McCain? 

And PS... studies have shown time after time that Republican party voters tend to be better educated and more successful that Democratic party voters. Put that in your " Republicans are old and stupid" pipe and smoke it. If it wasn't for the trouble brewing with Iran right now, virtually everyone on this Website would be voting Republican, and ya'll know it. You're just trying to pretend you aren't "one issue" voters. Yeah,keep lying to yourselves folks. Whatever makes you feel good.


samsam1111

Yes you are right Obama & Khomeini

by samsam1111 on

are the same. opportunistic twins!


programmer craig

skatermom

by programmer craig on

The demographics unfortunately are pretty clear. The older, uneducated,
unexposed, non worldly, deeply religious people vote Republican.

What an idiot. My grandfather fought in World War II, and worked his way up to be senior VP of of one of the largest multi-nationals in the world before retiring. He's visited countries most the people on this blog have probably never even heard of. He votes Republican. If you don't like it, too bad for you. He's earned the right to vote however he wants. What have you ever done to be worthy of casting a vote in the US? Raise your right hand and swear the oath of citizenship? Fine. You get to vote. So go vote, and then shut the hell up about "American demographics".

And by the way, it's too bad you have such contempt for old people. The US has an aging population, and things are only going to get worse for you here, not better.


IRANdokht

skatermom

by IRANdokht on

You're right, that's good news until they stay in the office long enough that we all lose our jobs and can't even afford cable!

but I appreciate your optimism :0)

IRANdokht


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Irandokht, The good news

by skatermom (not verified) on

Irandokht,
The good news from having a Republican in office is that the comedy shows and satire will be phenominal. Holy crap can you imagine what Keith Olberman would say. Better yet Bill Maher's new season starts tonight on HBO. The material will be priceless. See there is a silver lining.


IRANdokht

skatermom

by IRANdokht on

now I am depressed :-(

IRANdokht


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Here's a specific agenda.

by skatermom (not verified) on

Here's a specific agenda. There are several seats available in the supreme court that need to be filled. If a republican is elected Roe v Wade will be overturned. You're probably correct in saying that hell will freeze before liberals will be elected in this climate. The demographics unfortunately are pretty clear. The older, uneducated, unexposed, non worldly, deeply religious people vote Republican. This country is filled with them. Our next president will be a white octagenerian and you can revel in that.