Who’s Who Among IC Posters

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Masoud Kazemzadeh
by Masoud Kazemzadeh
22-Aug-2011
 

Who’s Who Among IC Poster

The following are my opinions of various posters. Posters may wish to add their own corrections, additions, modifications. My apologies if I missed anyone.

 

OPPOSITION

Pro-democracy movement

Masoud Kazemzadeh (INF)

Parham (NAMIR)

Religion Out of Government (NAMIR)

Aynak (Mossadeghi)

Fariba Amini (Mossadeghi)

Mehrban

Shazde Asdola Mirza

Red Wine

R2-D2

Divaneh

G. Rahmanian

vildemose

Fair

David ET

Babak K.

 

Socialist

Peykar (democratic socialist)

Roozbeh (democratic socialist)

Mash Ghasem (democratic socialist)

 

Monarchists

Dariush Kadivar (constitutionalist)

Anonymous Observer

Ali P. (Constitutionalist)

Simorgh5555

Anglophile

Oon Yaroo

Shushtari

seannewyork

Aria (Shahollahi)

Siavash 300 (Shahollahi)

Iran Paidar 1st (Shahollahi)

 

Independents

Fred

Artificial Intelligence

Ayatoilet

Faramarz

asadabad

MPD

hamsade ghadimi

Rostam

Esfand Ashena

P_J

Reality-Bites

Amir 19

 

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IRI Ministry of Intelligence and IRGC

Anon 7, aka Kharmagas, aka Marhoum Kharmagas

Anon 8

Pendar Nik aka comrade

BoosBoos

Amir Parviz for secular monarchy (?)

khengali (Basij)

Khebedin

 

 

Hard-line fundamentalists (jenah rast Nezam Velayat Faqih)

Iran Military Forum (Khamenei)

No Fear (Ahmadinejad)

BoosBoos

 

 

Reformist factions of fundamentalist oligarchy (jenah eslahtalab Nezam Velayat Faqih)

Mammad (Mousavi, Khatami)

Shifteh Ansari

Soosan Khanoom

 

 

NIAC

Ramin J (NIAC’s Shaaban Bi-mokh)

Bavafa/Mehrdad

Disenchanted

Ari Siletz

iraj khan

MM

BaronAvak

bfarahmand

 

 

Loose canon

VPK

 

 

 

 

 

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Souri

Then we will always turn around

by Souri on

same subjects, over and over.

What's the point of all these researches and bloging?

anyway, I got your point, Masoud jon. No worry.

We just disagree on this one.

Best regards;


Disenchanted

MK's Paradox!

by Disenchanted on

 

             Ok folks here it is. Dr. Masoud claims to be defending POMI/MEK civil liberties while "strongly opposing their ideology and leadership". If the latter part is news to you, you are not alone! :-)

         Now, lets see how it goes from here. Bunch of us who care about Iran (and as far as I know we belong to no party or group) have been arguing with "Dr." that MEK/POMI's violent and traitor history deprives this group from ability to take part in any democratic institution in current or future of Iran (emphasis is as a GROUP. Individuals who have been abused by the group are different).

          Facing with this ugly reality, the fact that MEK's actions excludes them from joining any democratic motion as the leadership has to stand trial, leaves MK to have to defend their actions. That is where the problem lies for him and his ilk.

      To defend POMI/MEK civil liberties they end up defending their acts and denying documented cases of terrorism and treason.

        That is not acceptable to any honest and patriot Iranian. Hence our disagreement with him and his desperate name calling! 


Soosan Khanoom

LOL ... Divaneh

by Soosan Khanoom on

 From Al Momenat  to Al-Kaferoon ... Questions:

Who is Marhoom Kharmagas ? no clue

and speaking of Mola Nasredeen,  Where is he?

I have not seen him posting for a long time... I hope he is OK 


 


Masoud Kazemzadeh

Suri jaan

by Masoud Kazemzadeh on

Dear Suri,

Your suggestion of "javab ablahan khamist," does not always work. Some times, turning the other cheek works and sometimes it does not. I am not sure that it would work with NIAC supporters and/or others who have been attacking me. They probably would continue to make these libelous LIES again and again and again. In my opinion, it was necessary to stand up to them.

Also my personality is that if someone attacked me, then I will attack them back 10 fold to give them a lesson. That is me. I use different means but I do not turn the other cheek.

Best,

Masoud

 


Mash Ghasem

رخنه، نفوذ، جاسوسی

Mash Ghasem


ناتوانی نسبی جامعه ایرانی مقیم خارج کشور در سالم نگه داشتن اجتماعات خودش را چه چیزی توضیح می دهد؟

-
من فکر می کنم، اپوزسیون خارج کشور از تمام گرایش ها؛ چپ، مذهبی، غیرمذهبی
و ملی- مذهبی به همان دلایلی که نتوانستند با هم به وحدت برسند در مبارزه
با رژیم ایران، همان دلایل هم عامل ناتوانی این نیروها است از اینکه
بتوانند، حصار امنیتی به دور جنبش مخالفین مقیم خارج بکشند تا از نفوذ و
رخنه دشمن جلوگیری کنند. من فکر می کنم، تشتّت و تفرّقه ای که بین نیروهای
سیاسی خارج کشور وجود دارد، به شکلی در این زمینه مؤثر بوده.

*
به اندازه کافی روی این موضوع مکث کردیم؛ پوشه دیگری را باز می کنم: نفوذ،
رخنه و جاسوسی در بین گرایشات مختلف اشکال متفاوتی دارد.

از تجربه به من بگویید: رژیم اسلامی ایران از چه راهها و با چه راهکارههایی می تواند در بین نیروهای طیف سرنگونی طلب نفوذ کند؟

- «اپوزسیون نمایی» یکی از راهکارهایی ست که رژیم برای نفوذ در جریانات سیاسی مورد استفاده قرار داده...

* ادعاتان را با مثال همراه کنید.

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مثلاً موردی ست که در «ارتش آزادیبخش» در عراق به یاد می آورم. کسانی
بودند که داوطلب مبارزه با رژیم شده بودند. بعد که آنها به منطقه منتقل
شدند، بعد از مدتی که چند شهید از سازمان مجاهدین گرفتند، مشخص شد که آنها
نفوذی رژیم بودند و طی پروژه مشخصی بکار گرفته شده بودند. می خواهم بگویم،
رژیم ایران با طرح و برنامه مشخص افراد نفوذی را می فرستد. برای اینکار
معمولاً از افرادی استفاده می کند که گذشته مناسبی داشته باشد؛ حتا از بین
زندانیان سیاسی سابق کسانی را انتخاب می کند...

//iranian.com/main/news/2011/08/15-13


Bavafa

This is an excellent way of making a tabloid out of IC

by Bavafa on

JJ is quite correct in his assessment of such trash [my word] and would not be surprised if upset by turning his once abromand site to such gossip place.

Now carry on....

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad


Roozbeh_Gilani

Dear Masoud, you are more than welcome.

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

I am sorry, but not surprised to hear about the shamefull campaign against you, affecting your life and work, because of your patriotic stance. In fact when i joined this forum about a year ago, I at first disclosed enough information on my profile about myself (job, education, University) which could have easily identified me by some google search. But I accepted the advice from a comrade here and trimmed my data. So i am anonymous now (i think..)

I was also attacked by User ID Boos Boos, accused of being a "Pejak/PKK sympathiser", by implication, due to my expressing sadness and disgust at killing of innocent little Kurdish kids by Turkish army and islamist regime terrorist IRCG . I was forced to respond  to "Boos Boos' in my own blog, because all my comments here got deleted.

The reaction to debate on MKO de-listing on this site really took me back to being in iran again. No kidding! It made me think about the forces behind this dictatorial behaviour. But I think you are like me. The more they come at us, the more determined we become to fight back. I respect that mentality a lot.

I like to thank you once more for the great blog. the distractions were equally if not more entertaining. But unfortunately i lost lots of work hour today as the result, so late night working for me. You see sadly I am not employed by any government Ministries or loby groups with deep pocket. Just an ordinary engineer, trying to feed the  family and pay the mortgage and survive  this recession. So wish me luck:)

take care hamvatan 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


Souri

Suggestion?

by Souri on

Masoud jon

You really want to know what I do suggest?

To continue what you have been doing and to say clearly that you are not an MKO member or their supporter !

That's what  a true analyst/researcher or ideologist would do.

You think if they accuse you, then you must accuse back?

Then do you adhere to the : an eye for eye?

Do you adhere also to : mikosham ankeh baradaram kosht?

If all the politics were about accusation and libelling, then what is a democracy for? Why do people vote ? Why all the speaches and confeerences and compaing?

No, I don't agree with you.

Actually I find this recent trend of accusation in IC, very boring.

PS- If there were a (like) BUTTON here, I'd pushed it for JJ's comment.

(also Shekar's comment)


Masoud Kazemzadeh

Evidence

by Masoud Kazemzadeh on

Evidence on the looooooooooooooooog history of NIAC supporters on this site making personal attacks and insults instead of debating or providing answers:

//iranian.com/main/blog/masoud-kazemzadeh/questions-professor-mammad-regarding-niac-cia-and-american-funding

//iranian.com/main/blog/masoud-kazemzadeh/questions-niac-official

 

 


Oon Yaroo

VPK: Mola Nasredin became Khoda Beyamorz!

by Oon Yaroo on

Of course, he might have been back under a new pseudo-name! I think Dino finished him!


Tabarzin

Divaneh

by Tabarzin on

Bani Hashem not Quraysh 

 


Oon Yaroo

Of course diversity of ideas is healthy, VPK!

by Oon Yaroo on

Of course diversity of ideas is healthy! But at the end of the day you need to reach consensus and go from here to there!

Can you imagine a bunch of you sit in a conference room day in and day out pontificating and making endless discussions without producing?I mean at work!

At some point, you have to move on!


BoosBoos

Oh lord ...

by BoosBoos on


WOW ...  I'd like to purchase a license to say one thing and to do the opposite like Dr. Kazemzadeh ... Can someone also tell me where to buy a crystal ball to see into the lives and employment histories of others like Dr. Kazemzadeh?  

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"  by Masoud Kazemzadeh on Supporters of NIAC on this site have a loooooooooog history of making personal attacks and insults instead of engaging in DEBATES about issues and questions."

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" by Masoud Kazemzadeh
22-Aug-2011 
 

Who’s Who Among IC Poster

... 

 

IRI Ministry of Intelligence and IRGC

Anon 7, aka Kharmagas, aka Marhoum Kharmagas

Anon 8

Pendar Nik aka comrade

BoosBoos

Amir Parviz for secular monarchy (?)

khengali (Basij)

Khebedin "


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And then he loses it and threatens people because they disagree with de-listing a terror cult ... nice 

 "by Masoud Kazemzadeh on I believe that the PMOI is not a terrorist entity" 

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... He even knows my religious beliefs ... "the Messiah is here" ... "the Messiah is here" ... Massoud (Peace Be Upon Him) has landed.

Attention People:  The Hail Mary will be changed ... from this point forward it will be:

Hail (Masoud), full of grace.

Our Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among (bloggers and sports fanatics),
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb,

(baseless and unsubstantiated accusations against people that disagree with Masoud PBUH). 


Masoud Kazemzadeh

SK and Faramarz

by Masoud Kazemzadeh on

Soosan khanoom,

Thank you for your thoughtful response. Many people think like you. In my forthcoming book I have a section on this.

Best,

Masoud

 

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Faramarz jaan,

You have a great sense of humor and great imagination. Thanks for the laughs and joys I got from reading your posts.

Best,

Masoud


Disenchanted

RG, Opposing MEK puts me in company of 99.999% of Iranians

by Disenchanted on

 

          Not a member of NIAC!

          I am not sure which one is harder to believe: I am an ardent supporter of VF or you typing while asleep?! :-)

          I recommend you take a look at my blogs. Just the titles would do. You may learn something while at it too! If I am as much pro VF as pope is a communist and Rick Perry is Buddhist! :-) Please get a handle! please...

        ... and on the subject of accusations and name calling! I admire your audacity of defending someone (MK) whose practice of name calling and baseless accusation has everyone on this site screaming! He has a label for everyone. I suggest your refrain from defending him and advocating MEK and save face and sanity!

       yours truly...


divaneh

This is one dimensional

by divaneh on

I like my placement but I don't think you can put people in one classification only. I think each person can be placed into different groups. Here are some that I suggest.

Hakhaamaneshian
Samsam
Anonymous Observer
Arthimis
Statira

Bany Quraish
Salman Farsi
Tavana
Tabarzin


Al-Kaferoon
Divaneh
JJ
MPD
Faramarz

Al-Momenin (and Momenat)
Soosan Khanoom
Marhoom Kharmagas
Mola Nasredeen


Sugar Breakers
Dr Saadat Noury
Anahid Hojati
Mehrban


Turturers
Boosboos
Savalan
Tiger Lily
Roger Rusta

Like Faramarz, I did see the humours side of your blog. I think some people have taken it too serious. 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Oon Yaroo

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

What do you mean by "moving forward". Diversity is the basis of a healthy political system. Do you mind the fact that Iranians have lots of political diversity. Do you prefer we all followed one idea?

I am very happy to see Iranian people with lots of ideas. Last thing I want is a single idea system like MEK; or VF. Good for Iranians to have lots of diversity. If you do not like it then by all means don't join.


maziar 58

 Maziar

by maziar 58 on

 Maziar


Masoud Kazemzadeh

Oon Yaroo

by Masoud Kazemzadeh on

Oon Yaroo,

Actually, these discussions are very healthy and educational. There is no reason why ALL Iranians should think the same. No such thing exists on the planet. People come from different social classes, different generations, different educational backgrounds. Have a diverse population is not a bad thing.

The bad thing is that there exists very little consensus among Iranians on significant substantial issues. That is why there are so many fights.

JJ is also a true democrat. He disagrees with me here, but he did NOT censor me. This is the difference between dictatorship and democracy.

Our people are learning. This learning process is painful. But it is necessary. Once our people learn to co-exist peacefully, then we could have democracy, freedom, and human rights. The process of LEARNING began more than 100 years ago, even before the Constitutional revolution. Unfortunately, due to a variety of factors, our nation has not succeeded yet. But we will.

Masoud


Minoo66

حیف اون دهات احمد آباد که تو مقنّیش باشی‌

Minoo66


 

 

 

پس من چی‌، خوشگل پسر؟


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Responses

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

  • I agree with JJ that "parvandeh saazi, tohmat" and making allegation is no way to go about a debate. I have posed many questions regarding MEK and never got an answer. For example I will repeat one: "is it not true that in United States people convicted of crimes get stripped of voting rights?" If so why should Iran be forced to give a criminal group all the rights of law abiding people?
  • Regarding: This is such a biased blog. Anglophile is completely right. I need not repeat his statements as they speak for themselves.
  • Regarding the question Dear Maziar 58, Which group do you place yourself? Why should Maziar belong to any group? Why do people have to be binned into little groups?
  • Regarding Useless! I completely agree with Souri.
  • Regarding I'll add a couple of more categories. I sounds only fair if you want to bin people might as well go all out.
  • Regarding Spiderman. I missed that one. 

Faramarz

Titles or a Pay Raise!

by Faramarz on

This whole exchange here about titles reminded me of the episode of Cheers where Woody, Sam and Carla all wanted a raise, but Rebecca duped them into accepting titles instead; Woody, the Sr. Bartender, Sammy, the Executive Supervising Bartender, and Carla, the Managing Director of Waitresses!

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngfyQtisDc0&feature...


Soosan Khanoom

MK

by Soosan Khanoom on

First of all let me clear one thing cuase i have never commented on this. I believe  Mosadeq was the best thing that had ever happened to our country. It was a shame and it still is a shame that we do not really know the greatness of people like him. In our history there were a few people whom I adore one for sure is Mosadeq.   Bur he is dead and no one can establish anything in his name cause there is always the possibility to go astray... 

Now let leave past behind and look ahead ... You can not drive a car by looking in the rear window !!!  

I have serious issues with VF. Iranian people have not gone through a bloody revolution only and only to replace Shah with VF. We need a system of checks and balances otherwise it is going to be nothing but dictatorship. I want VF to go away but I think we should use right channels to get rid of this concept once and forever.  Otherwise, VF has the ability to turn the masses against any democratic movement. we have enough brainwashed people in that country and i am not for any sort of blood shed. Been there done that ... enough enough is enough ....  So i guess I am a reformists but I do not necessary am a fan of the ones you mentioned.    I am a huge fan of Ebadi and I think she is the best we have right now .......

But my , LOL , moment came to existence when I see your pro-democracy list is mostly consisting of people who have been one way or another defending the delisting of MKO. I think that is just funny and some of people on your in-depended list are making it even funnier .. May be the lack of BOMB BOMB group made you to have some names on the pro democracy and your independe groups ..

I think if we each get to write a blog like this we will see a different outcome ... 

but who cares .....  : ) 


Masoud Kazemzadeh

Dear Roozbeh, Thank YOU

by Masoud Kazemzadeh on

Dear Roozbeh,

Supporters of NIAC on this site have a loooooooooog history of making personal attacks and insults instead of engaging in DEBATES about issues and questions. They wanted to intimidate me into silence. Therefore, it is was necessary to stand up to them. If they succeeded in intimidating me into silence, then that would have had a terrible effect on this site. Others might have been too afraid to stand up to them.

They have insulted me, my school, and even where I live!!!!!!! And they have LIED repeatedly while knowing full well that I am an member of INF-OA. Their lies were to intimidate.

Freedom is not free. There is a price. Bring insulted by these folks is a small price. We have to be willing to pay the price if we want freedom and civil liberties.

I appreciate your support.

Best,

Masoud

 


Oon Yaroo

Congratulations to DR. MK & Condolences to JJ!

by Oon Yaroo on

Congratulations to DR. MK because, by this blog, he proves that Iranians have not moved an inch forward since 1979 Angholab! That's, back then Iranians were scatered all over the political spectrum to the point of being completely aimless and divergent. Of course, once they converged, they followed that criminal Khomeini like a bunch of sheep and the rest is history!

Condolences to JJ because he has been spending so much energy, sweat, blood, and hard work to bring Iranians together over the past 15 years. And this is the fruit of his hard work. 

That's why I have given up on Iran and Iranians and am proud to be an American!

 


BoosBoos

JJ is really working for Spiderman

by BoosBoos on


"SAVAK, SAVAMA live

by Jahanshah Javid on 

parvandeh saazi, tohmat, efteraa... because you disagree with the views of others -- even anonymous others -- based on who you IMAGINE they are rather than arguing over ideas."

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JJ, so what you're saying is that you are an agent of Spiderman, working in close cooperation with Batman, while betraying Fidel Castro's regime with secret mind-control technologies that you developed from mixing French cheese and sir torshi.   Ahhhhaaa!!!  I knew it.   

But seriously JJ; I agree with you.  These personal recriminations in branding disagreeing viewpoints as  "IRI Ministry of Intelligence and IRGC" should stop unless they can be substantiated with objectively verifiable facts.  First and foremost among the reasons is that this allegation is being used to intimidate and chill the speech of people who disagree with the merits of certain views on issues of public policy - Post 9/11, in the Iranian community (and in many other communities of people from the Middle East & Central Asia) there is a fear of being accused of being employed bythe  "IRI Ministry of Intelligence and IRGC" et al.  because it carries the connotation being rounded-up and put in a detention facility (like Guantanamo), being cyber-stalked or targeted for personal abuse, and the whole nasty set of possible outcomes that can flow from this allegation.  Really what's being said when someone accuses you of being a member of the "IRI Ministry of Intelligence and IRGC" is a visit by the FBI and all the nasty stuff that goes along with it.  It's a threat: "Shut up or I'll make your life hell."  

By posing several questions, I made it very clear to Dr. Masoud Kazemzadeh that he needs to provide the facts I requested to back up what he's said.    

I mean seriously: Is Dr. Evan Siegel also an employee of the "IRI Ministry of Intelligence and IRGC" because he shares the same objection I have to the view point below? 

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 "by Masoud Kazemzadeh on I believe that the PMOI is not a terrorist entity" 

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Masoud Kazemzadeh

Maziar and Suri

by Masoud Kazemzadeh on

Dear Maziar 58,

Which group do you place yourself?

Best,

Masoud

 

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Dear Suri,

This blog was also part humor. Also in the past several days, several posters have explicitly wrote that I was a MEK mole and the like. In this blog, I was responding to them. I do not use personal attacks and fohsh. I sometimes use humor and sometimes responses like this. I HAD to PROVE to them that I was not intimidated. They wanted to intimidate me into silence, and it was necessary to show them that they could NOT intimidate me.

What would YOU suggest my response should have been? Silence?

Best,

Masoud

 


Roozbeh_Gilani

my horse, my horse, my khalifat for a horse!

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

Disenchanted: Sir/Madam: you have led not only Dr. Kazemzaadeh (remember no quotation marks needed, he is a real Doctor, holding a real PhD. you can check his full name and qualifications on his teaching post site), but also myself and many others to believe that you are an ardent supporter of both VF and NIAC, based on your comments supporting both entities policies. I see no issue with that, it is your right, after all we are living in US of A where rule of Law and freedom of speech prevails and not VF land! 

But when you and other anonymous user ID's persistently accuse Dr Kazemzaadeh of being a member of MKO, an organisation on US Department of state Terror list, with remarks referring to "him carrying AK47", simply because he is exercising his democratic rights expressing  and debating his views on this matter on an internet forum, then you are taking the matter to a different domain......

Again No law degrees should be needed to comprehend my point of view.

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


Masoud Kazemzadeh

BoosBoos

by Masoud Kazemzadeh on

BoosBoos,

1. I am a real person writing under my real name. Please send me your name and address and I will send you my mailing address. I look forward to seeing at the court. I am quite confident that you will LOSE. Why? Because you are NOT a real person at this site. You are BoosBoos. Moreover, I began the blog by clearly stating that I am writing my OPINION. Could you please tell me which law school you attended?

2. I am believe that YOUR false words against me constitute LIBEL. You made false statements repeatedly. I am a known member of the INF-OA. I have clearly written about the difference between supporting civil liberties of a group and supporting a group. YOU already read my article in which I harshly criticized PMOI and Rajavi, so YOU know for FACT that I am not an apologist for the PMOI. YOU know that I strongly oppose the PMOI and have already provided links to the effect. Therefore, you knowingly and repeatedly LIED. You KNOW that your lie that according to your own words are seriously damaging. I am quite confident that I will win this case. I look forward to seeing you at the court of law.

 

 

Evidence:

In the following posts, YOU falsely and knowingly LIED and connected me to the PMOI.

//iranian.com/main/2011/aug/radical-naturepage1

 

New Hejab

by BoosBoos on Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:51 AM PDT

@ Massoud: you're addicted to making excuses for MEK. The way to break that habit is to stop wearing a purple hijab and don't drive a tank to work any more.

If you buy a Toyota and baseball hat, after 2 or 3 months you'll feel much better.

 

 

The brain needs oxygen to work

by BoosBoos on Sun Aug 21, 2011 01:13 AM PDT

Massoud, you don't even know who I am or my world views. So take your "Fascistic fundamentalists like you do not support civil liberties" statement and put it in your pipe and smoke it.

Terrorists lose rights - even Felons can't vote; but you want a terror cult to be de-listed and let loose among the public. No thanks dude.

Take off the purple hejab Massoud ... it's cutting off your brain's ability to work normally

 

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the following are from this blog:

//iranian.com/main/blog/masoud-kazemzadeh/great-news-pmoi-and-terrible-news-terrorist-regime

 

 

PMOI = Al Qaeda

by BoosBoos on Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:03 AM PDT

When Al Qaeda is delisted - then talk about groups like PMOI being delisted. Terror is terror; treat all of these groups the same.

Don't treat PMOI any differently than Al Qaeda because they're not - they are actually worse because they assisted a foreign army in attempting to invade Iran.

 

 

PMOI: All bad news.

by BoosBoos on Fri Aug 19, 2011 09:54 AM PDT

Support for the PMOI is an excuse. If the PMOI ever came to power in iran there would be a civil war; not a single member of that group would survive based on Iranians hatred of it; and many innocent people would get thrown into sectarian violence as in Iraq. But this is what the U.S. wants.

The other bad news is that if the PMOI is not successful in grabbing power in Iran, the Iranian diaspora communities will have to mix with Iranians who may have supported Saddam, like the PMOI. Basically the U.S. has brought PMOI to the U.S. and Canada; so the Iranian diaspora will start being a mish-mash of PMOI, PJAK, Jundallah, PanTurks, and others who are totally hostile to Iran.

 

 


 

More pseudo-scholarly double-talk to justify terror ... nice

by BoosBoos on Sun Aug 21, 2011 03:46 PM PDT


To Masoud: ----------------------------------------------------- "by Masoud Kazemzadeh on Sun Aug 21, 2011 03:03 PM PDT I believe that the PMOI is not a terrorist entity" ----------------------------------------------------- Bin Laden didn't believe that Al Qaeda was a terrorist entity either. Fundamentally Masoud, that's your problem with your advocacy of the above position. Iranians know what PMOI/MEK have done. The EU and U.S. have them on a terror watch list on independent grounds. Your "belief" doesn't amount to a hill of beans just like Bin Laden's didn't either. Nobody has to accept the PMOI/MEK; or an apologist for this group. If you actually respect democracy, you'll honor the views of the majority of Iranians who have rejected the lawfulness of this group and consider them traitors

 

 

 

Messing with Massoud

by BoosBoos on Sun Aug 21, 2011 02:26 AM PDT

I've slightly modified Massoud Kazemzadeh's quote:

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" They came first for the PMOI,

and I didn’t speak up because I was not a PMOI supporter.

Then they came for the [Al Qaeda],

and I didn’t speak up because I was not a [Al Qaeda member].

Then they came for [the woman who killed her husband with an electrical wire while he slept to get his bank account],

and I didn’t speak up because I was not [the woman who killed her husband with an electrical wire while he slept to get his bank account].

Then they came for the [leader of the Mormon Church who decided to impregnate his neighbor's 13 year old daughter],

and I didn’t speak up because I was not the [leader of the Mormon Church who decided to impregnate his neighbor's 13 year old daughter] "

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Massoud Kazemzadeh has shown that he wants justify the inclusion of terror cells in a so-called "Democratic" Iran; Massoud-jan your views are from outer space.

 

 

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You implicitly threatened me the following 2 posts:

 

Who to blame

by BoosBoos on Fri Aug 19, 2011 07:01 PM PDT

Enjoy the civil the war from delisting MEK ... P.S. a civil war requires the will for sectarian violence on one on side ... it's not a prerequisite that every group of people agree to have a civil war or not. By delisting MEK you'll also see executions in Iran skyrocket; travel visas denied routinely; people exiled on a permanent basis and unable to return to Iran ... and the list goes on. Lovely ... thanks U.S.A. If you're one of those pushing delisting, make sure to leave your name and number so Iranians know who to blame.

Peace.

 

 

 

Delisting has consquences

by BoosBoos on Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:41 AM PDT

Delisting MEK will have consequences:

* possible Civil War (And you thought Tehran was fun before it turned into the type street gun battles we see in Iraq and Afghanistan!);

* The government in Iran will ratchet up executions of anyone even remotely deemed to be connected to the MEK (directly or indirectly) (Does anyone seriously doubt this? Does anyone seriously doubt that there will be MORE executions?)

* A strong trend will emerge where many Iranians in Iran will distrust Iranians living outside of Iran (particularly in those countries where MEK is deslisted). (Haven't you noticed that the U.S. is deeply suspicious of people that come from countries where Al Qaeda operates freely? Don't you think the Iranian government will take a similar position regarding countries where MEK is allowed to operate freely? What does this all mean? It means that getting something as simple as a travel visa to Iran to see family members will be exponentially made more difficult - If Iran can't identify MEK; it will ban people living in MEK safe harbour countries or make it impossible or impractical for them to go to Iran even on a visit.)

Delisting has consequences that neither you nor I can control: Before the MEK and U.S. sell you a false bill of goods about why delisting is good, think through the natural & probable repercussions for yourself.

 

 

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You made personal insults

 

Drinking while Typing

by BoosBoos on Sun Aug 21, 2011 01:46 AM PDT

Massoud, in the sprit of good humor I'll just pretend you write your drivel after you've been drinking.

Not every one will agree that the *hikers* were really hikers (in fact the majority of the U.S. population doesn't think they were innocently hiking in PJAK and MEK territory); and not every one will agree with your suggestions that the MEK (a group on the EU and US terror watch list) should be delisted and set loose on the Iranian-American community.

My views are shared by people all over the world, in many countries, among many faiths, and among many ethnic and racial groups.

You're obviously not well - seek help.

 

 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

RG

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

VPK, calling your anonymous user ID a "loose canon" or even a "IRI agent" is very different from calling you, yourself a Terrorist. Can you not make a distinction?

You missed my point I was not complaining about myself. Being called a loose canon does not in any way put me in danger. Being called an IRI agent does put BoosBoos in peril. What I meant was it was ironic to call me a loose canon. When the actions of MK fit the profile far better than those of mine. Now do you get my point?