Iranian University Students Speak against Discrimination of Bahais

faryarm
by faryarm
20-May-2009
 

Iranian University Students Speak against Discrimination of fellow Bahai students.

 

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Mona 19

دينداران آخر الزّمان, آقا رضا و امثال او

Mona 19


«یَأْتى عَلَى النّاسِ زَمانٌ لا یَبْقى فیهِ مِنَ الْقُرْآنِ إِلاّ رَسْمُهُ وَ مِنَ الاِْسْلامِ إِلاَّ اسْمُهُ. مَساجِدُهُمْ یَوْمَئِذ عامِرَةٌ مِنَ الْبِناءِ خَرابٌ مِنَ الْهُدى. سُكّانُها وَ عُمّارُها شَرُّ أَهْلِ الاَْرْضِ، مِنْهُمْ تَخْرُجُ الْفِتْنَةُ وَ إِلَیْهِمْ تَأْوِى الْخَطیئَةُ یَرُدُّونَ مَنْ شَذَّ عَنْها فیها.وَ یَسُوقُونَ مَنْ تَأَخَّرَ إِلَیْها.


یَقُولُ اللّهُ تَعالى «فَبى حَلَفْتُ لاََبْعَثَنَّ عَلى أُولئِكَ فِتْنَةً أَتْرُكَ الْحَلیمَ فیها حَیْرانَ» وَ قَدْ فَعَلَ. وَ نَحْنُ نَسْتَقیلُ اللّهَ عَثْرَةَ الْغَفْلَةِ.»

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faryarm

No one has ever truly believed anything by blind acceptance

by faryarm on

None of what was written is meant as any kind of persoanl attack.

Besides, your response seems to have been written by one other than yourself, since its content bare rather obvious similarities in paranoid comments made previously by that person, not to mention they can not hide the writer's deep seated resentment of Bahai administration.

with respect, it is also hard to believe that your elementary knowledge of written english could have improved in such short time...

Rest assured that, i want nothing but direct honest discussion.;

faryarm

PS

No one has ever truly accepted anything by blind acceptance; besides do you know anyone who is willing to die for their beliefs, if given a choice to recant?


Reza 41

like littl good sheep, ha???

by Reza 41 on

Dear Faryam "abha alyeh"

allaabha

you wrote: Seize the moment, break the chains of prejudice and ignorance that has for so long been perpetuated by shia clerics and paralyzed the progress of our society . This does not mean rejecting in any way the Divine Truth in Islam, rather it means that you follow the example of many a devoted and  learned teachers, scholars and doctors of Islam who recognized station of the Bab and Baha'u'llah

IOW; you are not inviting me to convincing facts of Bahaullas legitimacy that daily we are discussing( which you take quit path ),you simply want me do as "many devoted and learned teachers ,scholars and doctors who recognized station of both bless beauties" correct?

the problem is you dont get it , it doesn't matter how many time I tell you ,you still just dont get it , what you offering, that is call blindly following like a nice quit little sheep, and once in the while just saying BAAAAHAAA, that is it with you Bahaies, you advertise and masquerade your face with pretty slogan of independently search for the truth and all that BS, than bottom line even publicly asking for blind admission .

listen bro ;I dont want to bring more Quran verses to show you that we are prohibited of doing such blindly follow like you guys do,Quran reference that prove to be no convincing point for you, and I have no way to make you or of your brain washed friend to understand that is intention of your faith believe rather than mine,

to be honest to yourself and look and compare what ever your brain washing corrupt leaders insinuated you to believe that we are ,the fact is, they are describing themselves rather than us, that is all misconception and baseless theory that they are investing on and wash Bahai adherents brain with, to just gain some momentum to their stagnant ship, once Mr. Arab said(while in Australia visit) "when we(UHJ)order to Bahais jump ,they shouldnt say why ,they should say how high "

brother,dont tell me that is his personal words and there is no such a rules in Bahai faith, you ask for it, than I bring dozen case that all of your masters they suggest similar obedience.

the problem with you Bahai in general is ,your brain washing leaders they killed your sense of search for truth and substitute with no matter what truth come forth ,for you whole truth is Baha'ullah regardless of his teaching, and every time word of truth come visit you, they(your marja blind taghlid) jump in to corrupt, and pick them up, just like black crow pick out what squirrel diligently put in hiding in grand soil. therefore, I told you ,all I'm doing , responding only to some of non sens that they put in your brain,it is your job to analyze all the facts .

 you said what I say are propaganda and design to confuse you,sorry brother as you've been portraying  with your information,and "Malomat" you all are confuse, I'm trying to clear little bit ,the minds that has been blacken with all these lie ,projection of hate,and delusions  ,yet, you dont have to read my comments ,if you think you may be confuse with your belief, sure you can ignore me ,but no one can ignore their conscience. my main words are nothing but the truth.

as far as rest of your words ,they are personal baseless attack that you like to waist your time on, I told you I respect every individual and I'm not attacking any ones personal characters, I dont care where you in NY you siting and doing who's pictures  ,that is not my business keep your mutual respect and refrain from personal attack, not in your name nor masquerade with other names, that is a coward way to deal with your opponent, which is not taught in ours or your "Dars -i- Akhlagh" dont you agree less ?.

best

 


faryarm

Reza41, (Qom Iran) break the chains of prejudice

by faryarm on

 

Reza, break the chains of prejudice and ignorance.

My best "guess" is that you are a still a promising young man in your early 20s, living in probably Ghom as a religious teacher of sorts, employed by some IR ministry , to whom you have dedicated your time and service to; to act in a certain capacity for the last five to six years.

Since you are a rare presence from iran, on Iranian.com and further, since most people can not access Iranian.com and most all other sites that contain information the IR considers against its interests; it begs the question as to how you are able to access iranian.com so regularly and without the usual problems with anti-filter software...

If you are indeed some kind of a trained anti-Bahai missionary who has bee trained and provided all the necessary propaganda and disinformation in order to combat the rising iranian public awareness and opinion in favor of Bahais; one has nothing to say...you may go on since it just a job.

Bahais appreciate nothing more than the  kind of attention and focus you are giving in our posts.. 

Since you are most probably in Ghom (?) Iran, a traditional, restricted  and  intellectually suffocating environment; my humble advice to you is to expand your spiritual as well a s your intellectual horizons and use your anti filter capabilities to distance yourself from Raddiyyih material provided to you, designed to distort and confuse facts.

Instead purify your heart, reflect on your true intentions  so that when you write, your sincerity is not questioned; people will be uplifted by your words instead of the kind of disgusted reception you receive on these pages from often Non Bahais.

As a young man you are part of the future of Iran.  Be realistic, the writing is on the wall, without the regime's Brutal and corrupt apparatus it Will not survive one day.

Seize the moment, break the chains of prejudice and ignorance that has for so long been perpetuated by shia clerics and paralyzed the progress of our society . This does not mean rejecting in any way the Divine Truth in Islam, rather it means that you follow the example of many a devoted and  learned teachers, scholars and doctors of Islam who recognized station of the Bab and Baha'u'llah. 

sincerely

faryarm

 


alborz

Hassan - Not a saloon in Texas !

by alborz on

The link below tells you more about the work of the group that sponsored the discussion on this subject.

//hra-iran.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1006:e465&catid=160:6954&Itemid=376

Thanks for the well wishes,

Alborz


curly

where is The Mrs when we need her?

by curly on

we need her desperately because hagi reza has lost it again. I remember that she had some kind of suggestion to heal him.please people call her this young man is going down fast.it must be hot in Australia oh what am I talking it is winter there!oh lack of light then! 


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Good luck to Bahais. But

by Hassan Askari (not verified) on

Good luck to Bahais. But this is only a slideshow. From what we know this could be a saloon in Texas and some audio added to it. It is by no mean a documentary of anything. Just an audio.


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Haji Reza baseh degeh

by Pirooz11 (not verified) on

enghad nemikhad ghoseh Bahaieharo to bokhori. Delet bara khodet besozeh va aghayedeh 1400 salat ke degeh kharidar nadareh. In another work, dareh dokoneto beband. If they are not complaining about translation why do you? Maybe they have unofficial translation. they are not dummy like you. What are you agenda here? Leave them alone let them teach their faith don't let it bother you. The more you try the bigger they become believe me. Why are you so scared? Do you really think they will take over the world and convert all the muslems? Don’t worry that wont happen in your lifetime. I suggest you go and defend Islam and your beloved IR in other blogs-- there are lots of them around and these blogs are not posted by Bahaies.

Pirooz11


Reza 41

light should be turned on in every room

by Reza 41 on

 وَإِن جَاهَدَاكَ عَلى أَن تُشْرِكَ بِي مَا لَيْسَ لَكَ بِهِ عِلْمٌ فَلَا تُطِعْهُمَا

و اگر تو را وادارند تا در باره چيزى كه تو را بدان دانشى نيست به من شرك ورزى از آنان فرمان مبر 31:15

وَلاَ تَقْفُ مَا لَيْسَ لَكَ بِهِ عِلْمٌ

و چيزى را كه بدان علم ندارى دنبال مكن 17:36

there is a great Moslem movement for Bahais youth to be able to go to higher educations, I wish them good luck, but at the same time there should be a campaign against discrimination that is imposed and enforced by UHJ and BWG(Bahai World Government) toward to Iranian Bahais, they should allow them to be able to have ketab-i- Aghdas taking out of dark and to be translated(word to word) to Farsi after 136 years. why this book and other Bahaulla's Arabic writing is translated in all languages but not Farsi ?, this is a clear violation of GOD words in Quran,acording to Quran GOD words should be transparent and understandable to every age and should be brought  in his messengers mothers tongue Q41:44. this book(like many of Bahaulla's books) neither is Farsi nor is translated to Farsi until now. but it has been expository translated(mostly inserted) in most of other major languages , Bahais has right to know what god of Ketabe-i-Aghdas had to say to them.they have right to have Book od "BADII" and "MOBIN"(non existand in Bahai community)

nevertheless as Muslim and as a follower of Quran ,I'm 100% for educating the Bahais and even have a Bahai course  in university as a credit for Baha'i and other to take  ,Bahais should be involved in our society like any other Irani minority ,light of education is very important for any Bahai youth to find their way. fools who discriminate(both side) and deprive them ,they are implementing what leaders of this belief wish. although Bahai student have lot more tough road to get in to Iran universites it is unfair statement to say Bahai community completely are denied of higher education ,Bahais since1983 had many graduates from different university in Iran , which Bahai community dont want this to be highlighted or may never mention in their news. but how ever it Is discriminatory act if BWG and IRI both keep Bahai youth in the dark.

peace

 

  


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"non Iranian observer"

by Anonymous1234 (not verified) on

This is not about tie!This is about Human Rights.
Mosh bokhoreh!


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Why some people here are not wearing tie?

by Non-Iranian Observer (not verified) on

I am curious...


Tahirih

Thank you Faryar aziz for posting this

by Tahirih on

I was not aware of it, thanks.

Most regards,

Tahirih


faryarm

Armed threat ..اسلحه کشیدن به روی دانشجویان محروم از تحصیل

faryarm


Armed Threat against student protest.