Faramarz

They would be more than happy to "help"

If the U.S could invade Iran, topple the regime, place a new regime and leave then they would be more than happy to do so. The notion  that the U.S has not invaded because Iranians are too proud to ask is ridiculous/hilarious.

IRI is breaking Iran this way

The way IRI is going Iran is going to break up. Because regionas have no reason to stay around. Who in their right mind wants to be part of IRI? You got to be a nut job to stick around it.

The best way to reassure Iranian integrity is regime change. Yes it will be risky but not doing it is a guarantee. Iran will break up if IRI does not go. Kurdistan; Azarbayjan have no reason to be part of this *** hole of Islamic garbage.

We got a choice of regime change or slow death. Face it Islamic law is outdated and will never be able to make a civil society. It may have been alright for 1000 years or 200 years ago. But it is not going to work now. It was a stupid idea in 1979 and is more stupid now. I do not understand what kind of idiots came up with it. But it was the single dumbest idea we Iranian people had in history.

Responses

• Divaneh: I agree that a strong Iran is my first desire. In order to get there I made a proposal. Basically to bribe America; its oil companies and in return get a strong Iran. Please read my proposal it is not a joke.
• Simorgh: I have no problem dealing with America. I wrote a very real proposal. If taken it will benefit both Iran and America. I say *** JM; Mossadeghi and the Mazhabi. Welcome Iran / Israel alliance and go for it.

The final point to turn me from NIAC was their incessant anti Israel behavior. Face it no nation has friends but we do have enemies! Iran and Israel share enemies and it behooves us to join for now. That would buy Iran AIPAC support meaning no more threats from America. Meaning no more worry about dissolution. Meaning plenty of investment and no more sanctions. Pretty good deal from my view.

Divaneh

Between a democratic Iran and a strong Iran that can defend itself, I choose the second one.

Because you are not living in Iran, I daresay!

How long will this democracy movement of yours take place? Execution rates have doubled over two years! The population is spiralling out of control; the economy and environment is in ruin. How long? 33 more years when Iran has been destroyed? 

And what has become of your 'democratic movement'? That bearded fellow Mousavi and his lover - the guy in the white turban are all under house arrest. Those who participated in the 2009 movement have all been imrpisoned or executed.

There is more of a liberation movement in Syria than there is in Iran despite being killed in thousands? Where is this democratic movement in Iran? What party is it? Whose the leader? Where is the opposition base? What is the name of the party? Do you thing wearing  a green bracelet defines a credible and realistic opposition to the government?

Maybe what you want is for Iranians to be just like the Syrians. You want scores of young Iranians to be dragged infront of machine gun fire like Syria in a long drawn out war while you are basking in the hot California sun?

IS THAT REALLY WHAT YOU WANT?  

VPK

The reference was not made to you or Amir Parvis in any way. I want to reassure you. However, I was being deliberatly provocative by asking that question.

You came in to this country. For all I know you live a decent and respectable life beholden to no one. You don't have a chip on your shoulder like these other I-Hate-the-West  jokers but did you feel that you had sold out by coming to America? You contribute to its society and pay tax but did you feel guilty that you ended up in a country which has been accused (with some justification) of all the ills and bad things that happened to Iran?

The irony is that these Jeepe Meli/Tudeh/Islamists/Mossadeqi nationalists (with a few exception) believe that any compromise with America or asking for outside intervention in helping to liberate your country is a form of selling out. They routinely call you Zionists etc.

However, these fools should take a mirror in front of them aks themselves the same question as to whether they are selling out by chosing to live and proposer in the country which they have fought and even hated all their lives? Funny that they don't see themselves as traitors for propering personally for being in the decadent West. 

You know their answer....I've heard it TIME AND TIME again.

"I didn't come here by choice. It was personal reasons"

The personal reasons that barely disguise your blatant hypocrisy!  

Be careful, you may get what you wish for

What we witness in Iran today is a struggle for democracy and in my humble opinion a movement with a very good chance to win. The awareness of the need for democratic rights is nationwide, the ruling power is weak, divided and bankrupt of ideas. The only thing which misses from the picture is an effective leadership of the opposition and that will get shaped sooner or later (See the call for a National Congress by Moshiri for example). The only thing that can break the back of this movement is a military strike by foreign forces. That will move the focus from democracy to defending the country and will kill the movement for many years to come.

Foreigners will not risk their lives and capital to bring us democracy or put us on a constructive path. Look at what is happening in other such cases such as Iraq or Libya.

Between a democratic Iran and a strong Iran that can defend itself, I choose the second one. A weak nation who cannot defend itself cannot protect its democracy either. Unfortunately Iran is weak and an attack on Iran can tear it into pieces.

The only way to save Iran is for us to put our differences aside and get united behind a National Congress.

Getting rid of IRI: how to?

There are several ways:

• Wait it out: it will be very long but as any other despotic regime it will fail. But it may take decades or longer. I do not support this. NIAC and the like claim to propose this. If you believe them it will take a long time. Or maybe they are in league with the IRI and trying to stabilize it. One way or another I don't go for this approach. That is why I decided not to support them. IRI has to go and the sooner the better it is for all of the world.
• Major sanctions including a blockade and international prosecution. This may work to get people to get angry. It also gets the military to feel it is not benefiting it to support IRI. Probably the best way to get IRI out. Push it to its limit then when people rebel give them air and other support. The biggest problem is separatism. America must publicly guarantee Iranian territorial integrity before acting. If not it may not get popular support.
• All out war: probably the worst option because it might end up backfiring. The only way it works is to go for regime change. If you just hit them it will not work. They will dig in their heels and kick out the UN monitors. Might require a major war action. Is America really going to commit 500,000 + troops to Iran? There is no way the public will support it given the budget now.

Simorgh Jan

I agree no nation is friends with another; but deal may be made. Please tell me what you think of my proposal. It is good for America; Iran and Israel why not? Deals are good. Yes it is about money and profit.

We should all be out for benefiting ourselves in a non violent way. By the way I do not think like Amirparviz; I do not hate America one bit. Rather I realize it is a nation out for itself as it should be. 

When I became an American citizen the immigration officer told me "you are an asset to America". Makes sense don't you think? I have paid a great amount of taxes to USA. But got myself very good life: good for America and me as it should be.

Faramarz

This is an excellent blog. Sentimentally, the answer to your question is 'No'. I actually wish for Iranians to be able to take up arms like the brave rebels in Syria and Libya against their despotic rulers but we tried and failed. The 2009 uprisings or insurrection by Iranians was immediately quashed with brute force despite the fact that most of the demonstrators were throwing stones instead of firing live rounds like the well organised rebels dispersed througout Libya. Iranians people simply are not organised enough and neither do they have access to weapons which their Syrians and Libyan counterparts have to launch a realistic offensive against the Islamic Republic. There are also many political and ideological differences which separates Iranians and unfortunately they are not willing to set them aside to confront their common enemy.

It is disingenuous to ask a young Iranian to pick up a gun and confront the regime's forces only to be met with a hail of bullets or captured, live, then beaten and tortured before being taken to the gallows and hanged. The LA TV self-elected leaders of the Iranian community encouraging individuals to rise up against the regime are nothing but hypocrites and cowards who incite Iranians to fight when they are sitting comfortably in the confines of their Californian mansion. How is inciting Iranians to sacrifice themselves like guinnea pigs any worse than collateral damage through targeted strikes?

Iranians as groups of ones or two confornitng the regime is not the answer. An Iranian freedom fighter running amock Charles Bronson style shooting at Basijis is not going to work.  IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK.

Like it or not, we need outside help. Diplomacy and dialogue with a regime which gives its prison guards condoms to rape men and women has failed. All sorts of dialogue, peaceful inititiatives and commercial incentives have been offered to the regime to change its behaviour on the international front, and more importantly on the domestic human rights level for the last thirty-three years and they have failed miserably. Don't listen to that NIAC bull about No Sanctions and No War- their agenda is to prolong the life of this regome because they are in the pocket of Seyed Ali Khamenei.There is documentary proof of this.

The only way , this regime can be removed is by complete destruction of its military apparatus and ability to harm its citizens; namely, the Basij and Sepah forces. Only aerial bombardment of their bases and operation units will suffice. Yes, the conflict will escalate and it would also mean destroying the navy and the airforce in the process. If you can show me an Iranian philanthropist who is willing to put up the planes, military hardware and the money - then GREAT! Screw America, Israel and Europe. 

THE ALTERNATIVE IS DO NOTHING 

Would you like  500 more people being eecuted 'officially' for 'drug trafficking' each year? More destruction of Iran's environment and national resources? More women and men being arrested, tortured, raped and murdered? More 'Political Prisoners' of the day? More deforestation of Kurdistan? More reckless policies to increase the population beyong 70 million people? More hyper-inflation when most Iranians can't even buy eggs or meat? More destruction of Iran's pre-Islamic national heritage such as statues of Aryo Barzan and the flooding of the entire Marvdasht province where Persepolis and Cyrus's tomb resides in Pasaargad? More destruction of Lake Urumiyeh because the Sepahi crooks have opened up a cement factort? More destruction to canals and rivers? More lions being killed in Zoos? More mutilations and amputations of arms and eyeballs removed from sockets in eye-for-an-eye punishment? More stoning of women and flogging? More public hanging of 17 year old boys by a government which has the world's highest record of child executions? More of the Alborz mountains being lost forever to build high tower apartment blocks and condominiums? More Islamification of Iran from replacing words in Persian to make way for Arabic? More social restrictions on women and gender discrimination in public places? More spiralling debt by ordinary Iranians? More women being stopped, harassed and taken away for not wearing their hijab properly or wearing too much lipstick? More bloggers and journalists being arrested and killed? More 'Prisoner of the Day' on Iranian.Com'? More Azari,Arab and Jurd resentment towards Iran?

Yes, do nothing. Your heart is not about fixing Iran's problem. You enjoy doing nothing because you have made your life in the West and relishing every minute of it. Now and again, you come here and sprout out some nonsense to show how you are sympathetic about the plight of Iranian people etc etc and know damn well that it amounts to nothing. 

The word nothing  sums up your own irrelevant existence! 

Finally, I agree with VPK and Amir Parvis that the West does not have Iran's interest at heart. No country are 'friends'. This is a myth. All countries define their relationship based on a give and take basis but I will say one thing. Please can someone answer this?

Why is it that people who are the most misstrustful of the West and urge against military action because they will destroy Iran etc etc are themselves living in the USA or Europe and have made successful careers for themselves or are receiving social security benefits from them? If you are not doing bad, yourself, then maybe America intervening to help us is not that bad either?

After all, you have entrsuted your life and your future in America. The country which put up the 'puppet' and 'corrupt' Shah! The country which destroyed Mossadeq's 'democracy'! 

I forgot you did not want to come to America or Europe  by choice. You had actually wanted to go to the Eastern Bloc, China  or one of these other tin pot dictator countries which regularly suppots the Islamic Republic but because of "persoanl reasons" you had to come to decadent imperialist West. 

To all you anti-imperialist Americans but chose to live there yourself, I have one message for you:

"YOU , yes, YOU, are just about the F~~~~ng money"

The deal

I have proposed a deal with America before and will spell it out now:

For USA and Israel:

• USA gets 50 % of the oil and gas for free for 25 years.
• USA gets to put whatever pipelines it wants through Iranian territory.
• Iran guarantees security of the region. Including Afghanistan; Iraq and all other regions.
• Iran will recognize Israel; sell it oil at market price and stop funding anti Israel forces.
• Iran will put its nuclear power work on hold except for research, With monitoring by UN.

For Iran

• Iran gets to sell the rest for market price,
• America guarantees security for Iran including its integrity.
• Iran gets its 50% of Caspian Sea resources as in the Iran Russian treaties.
• America and Israel will stop their support for separatist movements in Iran.
• America and Israel will recognize Iranian rights to recover territories lost in Turkamanchai and Gulistan treaties.
• America and Israel will invest in Solar energy in Iran. This is to balance the nuclear hold.
• Iran will recover its "frozen" assets from 1980 with interest.

Framarz, I TOO think it is very GOOD Idea

Your analogies are great for getting help from USA. Thanks for posting.

Faramarz, In the absence of a long line of Iranians willing to..

In the absence of a long line of Iranians willing to go to Iran to fight IRR, I would say ask for help, go to the Mars, and do anything to get rid of mullahs and its thugs!

If I had the chance I would fly a B1 bomber myself and drop the big one on the mullahs but I don't and can't!

I think a wise and educated deal with the West to get rid of the mullahs is a great deal.

Yolanda

Iranians are a proud people and as we say in Iran, "we slap our faces red to pretend that we are healthy!"

But at the end we are part of the world community and we rely on them and hopefully some day they will rely on us.

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Sometimes, Iranians do need to ask for outside help! If Sakineh Ashtiani's son, Sajjad, did not have contacted outsiders regarding his mom's imminent stoning, his mom has been dead!

Some of the political prisoners wrote to UN special rapporteur, Saheed, for help, they did right thing!