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AO Jaan, I think you are right! How can anyone leave a comment

without a user ID and password issued to him/her by IC admin?

I think GojehSabaz is the IC hacker!

JJ- Is IC being hacked by the habitual abuser?

How come this multiple username / multiple time blocked character, GojehSabz (Zed, ILoveIran, Shahab Ferdowsi, CIM, Nur, Tabarzin, etc.) is able to post without being registered?  Is he hacking the site? (see blow)

DK, my old chum - thanks for condescending chapter 2

Anglophile - I be more than happy with a queen, if

I will be more than happy with a queen, if RP2 amends the obsolete 1906 constitution to eliminate the outdated titles such as the rules of succession, and especially the unnecessary powers given to the clergy and the monarch.  While that will give RP2 some legimiticy as far as bringing up the constitution to the 21st century, it will also make the constitution his own.

I am for secular democracy, with or without a monarch.  So, more importantly, RP2 has to convince the people of Iran to accept him or his daughter, and the second step, in my opinion, besides the amendments, is to unite the opposition to the IRI by doing something about it rather than just speeches.

While RP2 has talked about secular democracy, the rule of law and the human rights in Iran, he never seems to do anything about it, and all i hear is about the restoration of the 1906 constitution.  So, the amendment and NOT the restoration of the 1906 constitution should be "your" focus!

My 2 cents.

MM Old Boy It's not my blood pressure but your deemed ignorance

You speak as if you never heard of Monarchies operating in the world and as if those which operate democratically became democratic and perfect overnight.

On what planet do you live ?

Do you think the world is limited to Los Angeles and Dubai ?  

Go ask your Buddy Trita if Sweden became the deemed Perfect Monarchy overnight ?

He is a "subject" of that Sex Driven Swedish King you know ...

ROYAL FORUM: Unauthorized Bio Tarnishes King of Sweden's Reputation With Wild Sex Allegations

Maybe he should spend his time defending his own fellow compatriots instead:

Persian Carpet Gift to Sweden's Crown Princess Victoria and Husband 

Or run for Parliament over there:

ROYAL FORUM: Iran-born Hanif Bali elected to Swedish Parliament 

How the devil did he end up representing you Iranian Americans with a green card ?

Where is his Legitimacy ?

The Shah was right about you folks when he said : "I will behave as the King of Sweden when my people behave like Swedes ..."

Royalty: Shah of Iran and King of Sweden Stokholm (1960)

Hanooz keh Hanoozeh You Demand Your Royals to behave as Perfect Constitutional Monarchs Overnight :

but what have YOU Jomhurykhahs Delivered in 33 years of YOUR Republic  ? ...

answer :

Porooyee ham Hadee Dareh !

In the meantime ask your Swedish "Subject" Trita why he goes on Russian TV to Support the Iranian Regime but doesn't criticize them for selling arms to Syria's PResident for life ? 

Shame on You NIACers for defending Bloodsuckers and overlooking their crimes while pretending to be "Citizens of the World" ...

NIGHT OF THE GENERALS : Paul Conroy describes "pure, systematic slaughter of civilians"

You Folks are the last qualified to lecture us Monarchists on Democracy and Human Rights let alone Patriotism ...

MM aren't you satisfied with a Queen as a monarch?

I believe there are many strong reasons for an amended constitution to allow a Queen to sit on the Peacock Throne. That way no one needs to be divorced :)) - if that is what you are after.

WOW DK! Show me another time I have asked @ succession?

Sorry if I touched the wrong button.  

Thanks for the chapter answer, but the question still remains as to why MRP did not pass up the throne to his siblings and instead, divorced two "beloved" wives.  No need for you to answer if it raises your blood pressure or makes you blow a fuse.

So, the next time you lecture us about restoring the outdated/obsolete 1906 constitution, please specify folks not to ask questions.

MM No why should he ? Don't pretend you don't understand

It's amazing the number of times you keep asking the same questions to which I have answered in the past.

MM Jan Do you think for yourself from time to time or you pretend you don't understand the concept ? It's One thing not to like the concept it's another to pretend you never heard of it ...

Royalty is based on the Bloodline or what is called the "salic laws".

You may think it is an antiquity and obsolete mindset but don't pretend you don't understand the concept as it is practiced in virtually ALL monarchies except in Malaysia where Monarchs are elected.

ROTATING MONARCHY: Abdul Halim Mu'adzam Shah crowned Malaysia's new king

The Royal Bloodline can continue with other members of the Royal Family notably cousins take the children of Prince Gholam Reza, the Shah's brother or Sister's Chams who have sons ...

When there is a discontinuity that emerges due to let's say a childless monarch or the death of an heir ... The head of the Royal Family can decide who they wish to have as heir apparent. 

the term "apparent" is used to explain that even if the heir has a legitimate claim to the throne that claim can only be officialized either during his accession to the throne ( in democratic countries after an Oath in Parliament) or upon coronation but the legitimacy of the claim is not subject to debate. What can be debated is the legitimacy of two given dynastys each claiming the throne. Like the Qajars vs the Pahlavis.

The Qajar Dynasty's current heirs are not all direct decendents of the Founder of the Dynasty either no more than the current Queen of England whose roots don't go back to the Tudor Kings and Queens but to their distant Cousins who were actually German:

Coincidentally,the names Windsor and Mountbatten were originally Saxe-Coburg-Gotha and Shelssweig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glucksburg. 

The Qajars themselves had Turkish Ancestors:

THE LAST OTTOMAN: Neslisah Sultan Dies at 91

Where as the Pahlavis were even according to Republican Historians like Abbas Milani ( same for Constitutiionalist historian Mashallah AJoudani) the first genuinely Persian Dynasty in 600 years.  

PRAISE FOR REZA SHAH: Adjoudani Slams Lack of Recognition for Pahlavi Dynasty's Founder

From that perspective the legitmacy of the Pahlavi bloodline is no more no less in question than any Qajar heir.

The same was true for Spain whose current King is a descendent of the Bourbonne Branch of the French Kings, yet his legitmacy is questioned by the Orleanaise Branch.

The King of Spain himself was not even born on Spanish soil but in exile in Rome and the hospital where he was born was officially declared Spanish Soil for 24 hours upon his birth. This is generally accepted by all diplomatic corps based on the treaties signed by between governments ( even if the government in question is toppled since those diplomatic treaties are required to be honored by the new governments or regimes ). The same was true for all of RP2's children who although born in the United States the hospital where they were born was declared Iranian territory for 24 hours. This regardless of the fact that Iran disrupted it's relations with the US. For example If tomorrow let's say Obama or another President restores relations with the Islamic Republic or any other future regime that diplomatic decision will be immediately restored hence the Children of RP 2 will be regarded as full Iranian Citizens so will their grandchildren.  

But will there be a problem of succession if RP 2 let's say doesn't have a male heir  in a near future or not at all ?

Practically speaking Yes but not Legally No !

Indeed since other members of the Pahlavi Family in accordance with the immediate heirs will be in line and could be named by RP 2 himself as his eventual heir in the future. He probably has someone in mind who will be mentioned in his final will. But he won't mention it publically nor reveal it before his death so as not to create a crisis in the order of succession.

That is what the Shah considered back in the 50's when Soraya was not able to have a child where the Shah named his brother's son Ali Patrick Pahlavi as heir ...

Go to 1mn 43 :

Once the Shah remarried and had a son: Reza ... the latter became the Shah's heir upon birth in accordance to the Salic Laws of the Monarchy and no more Prince Ali Patrick.

Naming one's heir is a Royal Prerogative of any head of a Royal House. He and only he or the immediate family can decide who can succeed them. The choice can then be submitted to the Parliament if the Family is still ruling the country or to a Constitutional Assembly for approval if the Dynasty were to be restored but then that falls under the political project of Restoring the Countries institutions or not or based on a new drafted constitution ( which could or not ammend the Rules of Succession as has been the case in Great Britain or Spain or other Modern Monarchies to date).

That may explain why Prince Ali Patrick ( born to a Polish Mother) who had lost his own father in a plane accident became a bitter and fairly disfunctional young man subsequently and even a revolutionary when the revolution took place and became known as the Islamist Member of the Pahlavi Clan before becoming an opponent to the regime he shyly supported :

All families are subject to personal issues and Royals are not an exception to the rule ...

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Prince Andrew slammed over child sex offender friend

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WHAT DID THE DUKE DO ? Spanish king's son-in-law dropped from official duties

But to answer your question on a final note in case all the above confuses you :

As far as the Institution of the Monarchy is concerned as well as the perenity of a Dynastical claim to the Throne, YES the Continuity of the Royal Bloodline does matter. If this continuity is interrupted by let's say non male heirs ( as long and the former or future constitution are not ammended to allow female heirs) then the order of succession will be indirect but equally legitimate by choosing another male family heir but in respect to the Royal bloodline. So divorcing or Not Princess Yasmine is not something which he is forced to do if he wants to have a child including out of bedlock ...

;0) 

Since I doubt he will want to do that since he is happy married, I guess He will probably name a successor in his will or if one day he does become King then he will try to ammend the Constitution through a Parliamentary decree so that it included a female heir to the throne.

Something that the future Democratic Opposition ( hence the Jomhurykhahs like you) may want to Veto so that it will create an institutional crisis. So from that point of view even if the Monarchy is restored through Popular Will you will always have a political argument to corner him.

See I even offered you a convenient argument if ever you wish to see a Secular Republic replace a restored and however democratic Pahlavi Dynasty ...  

Other than that This tradition of royal continuity through the bloodline is very common in all Monarchies including in Asia ( Japan, thailand, the Saudis, Morocco, Jordan) and not merely European since the entire British and European Monarchies have ALL more or less inherited the same royal traditions and customs from ancient Middle Eastern Monarchies notably Persian.  

Hope this answered your question ... Just please don't come back asking the same in two months time ...

If not then ask your Swedish Subject and Life time NIAC President who should know better ...

BLUE BLOOD: Sweden's Princess Victoria gives birth to baby daughter and future heir

;0) 

Best,

DK 

DK - is RP2 gonna divorce Yasmine since no male firstborn?

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Mossadegholahis (Arj) are at it again

Of course he is first born ...

Already To his own Mother who was named Regent by the Shah in case he was to die prior to his son's 20th birthday ...

Unlike Shahbanou Farah, Egyptian Queen Fawzia was never crowned and the Shah divoroced her ( despite her giving him a daughter: Princess Shahnaz) as he divorced Soraya for not giving him a child ...

The 1906 Iranian Constitution unless  amended demands a male heir to the throne:

Cyrus Amir-Mokri on Pros and Cons of 1906 Constitution 

The British have only recently changed the rules after vote in Parliament ...

British Monarchy Removes Gender Rules Regarding Royal Succession 

And The swedes only in 1978 ... 

Don't try to pass as "experts" in a field you are totally ignorant and ideologically biased against ... 

You are against the Monarchy ? Fine ... But then don't try and define something which you clearly don't understand !  

Unwavering ambiguity!

It's interesting that while dodging the questions regarding his claim on kingdom, he implicitly stakes the claim by resorting to such reactionary traditions as "being the first born of his father!"

Moreover, while condemning IRI's torturing and killing of political prisoners, his position with regards to the same crimes committed by his father is that "they can not be condoned!"

Actually, I am banned, I can only write in the subject box

Believe in a democracy that leaders and representatives are controlled by members at all times.

RP is The Best Alternative for IRAN

At this situation.  He is known to the world besides he makes sense and he knows several languages and he is nationalist like his father & grand father NOT like IRR/IRI who are illitrated ARAbs kissing Moscow & China's BUTtom.

Amir - And how do you rank Iranians in this dem index?

Believe in a democracy that leaders and representatives are controlled by members at all times.

Dude, any "Shah" that asks Israel for help

... should be called a sell-out.  

New Palace = Camp Ashraf 

ahosseini, look at the most democratic societies on earth

Yes they are all the Constitutional Monarchies, //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

Being educated will really be the easiest way for all of us.  At least with Knowledge we have a reason for having hope, right?

Don't worry GojehSabz, you'll change your view with maturity

I'm hallucinating You'll love the shah.  Really, Love what he stands for.  First Learn and study about Iranian Culture and its differences with other civilzations.

Election, democracy, accountability, kingdom - I'm confused

Believe in a democracy that leaders and representatives are controlled by members at all times.

I'm in favor of Reza Pahlavi becoming Shah ...

... but only if he becomes the Shah of Israel or Saudi Arabia.  

As for Iran, he can have 1 free chelo kabab and that's it.

رضا شاه غایب

چه خوب میشد اگه

در اسرائیل ظاهر میشد و 

شاه اسرائیل میشد!

His politics is better than Mirfetros, khoie, & Nori Ala on war

Believe in a democracy that leaders and representatives are controlled by members at all times.

Dude, how can you be for a "secular" anything?

Always good to see Reza Pahlavi Standing Firmly For Us IRANIAN's

It brings out all the haters who support the IRI.  Surely you are not expecting him to please everyone?

Well done RPII.

Reza Pahlavi Making a Fool of Himself

First groveling to the Israelis for help (who asked him to do this?) and now groveling on Arab television.  Pathetic. 

His new palace at Camp Ashraf is ready for his Royal Majesty.

........

for all the white hairs he (RezaPahlavi)and most of us getting

Balds excluded.............

who wants to go back to veeran?

Maziar

"He is making sense" indeed

RP is saying that A. Khamenei deserves to go to court for the atrocoties and disasters he has brought upon the people of Iran, including the jailing/killing/violating thousands upon thousand of political prisoners.

Could you please clarify to me who is making more sense regarding these matters?

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory (courtesy of Bavafa)

Reza Pahlavi the only truthful, sensible, and reliable Iranian

truthful, sensible, and reliable Iranian of leadership material!

He is too good to lead a nation of 80% believers in Mehdi Farrari!

God bless Reza Pahlavi!

There are 2 factually incorrect statement Reza Pahlavi made

in this interview:

1-He states he is the first born of Shah.  He is not!

2-Iranian people ARE not childrens of queen Eshter.  I have no idea why he keeps repeating the same (now for the second time).

Not sure why we would need help of Israel to get rid ourselves of the regime, when the two regime have been really complementary not in rethorics but in action.

 The two aprethied systems of Islamic regime and Isarel need each other to justify their own existence.

i sympathize

i sympathize with cyber mamoors of islamist regime on this site for their anger and frustration after watching this video clip. for that i stand by my promise of hand delivering iced cool bottles of coke or pepsi (choice is theirs, their "undeniable right") to these dear souls at tehran's shahyad square after the regime change in iran. only if they care to return to iran from london or LA or toronto to participate in iranain peoples  jubilations.