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Was excellent.

Was excellent.

Hamsade Ghadimi

You might be right. Mosavi may not be very articulate or  ultra-bright. But compare to others, he's our best chance and he seems to be very kind with good intention. Ye estelahe ke, toyeh jahanam ye joonevarayee hast ke adam az tars be mar panah mibareh.

Khar tou Khar situation after the Revolution

They were many unjust executions right after the Slumic Revolution. There was a state of cheos in the country and nobody's word would be listened except that lunetic, khomeini lanatolaho alayeh. Right after the Revolution it was Bazargan who was prime minister and despite his opposing against all those executions, nobody would listen to him. Mousavi was like Bazargan, had no power. If he would say anything, he would have had the same destiny as Bani Sadr, Montazeri and others like Ghotb Zadeh.

What is the truth Mr Sahimi?

 "one cannot just replace the truth with old, tired, hollow, baseless slogans "

 Please share it with us.

FR

Islamists are funny

Islamist B was in power when his boss Islamist A ordered mass murders. Islamist B openly says he wants things to be like it was during his idol Islamist A’s times.

Islamist C says Islamist B came out of retirement because “he felt that Iran was in danger”. Islamist C also acknowledges that his former Islamist idol mass murderer Islamist A was “directly responsible for the crime against humanity.”

BTW, Islamist C wants the Islamist Rapists who are responsible for murdering a whole lot of Iranians to have nuke.

Islamists are funny.

Farah Rousta

You changed the subject! It was Mousavi that you attacked. Now, it is Ayatollah Khomeini! You should have done this in your original comment.

Ayatollah Khomeini was directly responsible for the crime against humanity that the executions of the 1988 were. He was the one who authorized the executions. He was the ultimate authority. Just as Ayatollah Khamenei is responsible now, because he is the ultimate authority.

People like me are not in denial. As I said, we do not have "aghd-e okhovvat" (brotherhood) with any of them. If they are responsible, so be it. But, one cannot just replace the truth with old, tired, hollow, baseless slogans and expect the rest to follow. We just do not live in a fantasy land.

As Hossein Bagherzadeh said in his article posted today in this website, there is a difference between ideals and practical solution.

And, to respond to another comment here: Mousavi is 67, and Karroubi is 71. What future do they want to guarantee for themselves? They can live a quiet comfortable life, particularly Mousavi who was away from politics for 20 years, and came back only because he felt that Iran was in danger.

Mammad

OK, if it helps

All I am saying is that the elections are over and such propaganda clips are of little value. By the way, guess who was in charge of the Judiciary during Mousavi's tenure as PM: Ayatollah Mousavi Ardabili. Guess who was chief prosecutor: Ayatollah Sanei. If you do not know the relationship between these two Ayatollahs and Mousavi, then I guess you are just a blind believer that can not be convinced with reason. Finally, if such videos help some of you to overcome your PTSD, then, by all means, be my guest…    

My Personal feeling:he is Innocent of the Crimes BUT accountable

Quite honestly he doesn't come across as a bloodthirsty man or even guilty of any form of DIRECT Responsability in what happened in 1988/89 in terms of chain murders.

But Can One say he was No Complice be it by Silently Endorsing the crimes to be carried out ? Only a serious and independant Investigation can answer that question ...

Otherwise Is his physical appearance and gentle tone of voice enough to judge someone's responsability or guilt ?

As Prime Minister but more importantly as someone who was and is part of the establishment which commited those crimes he is accountable to explanations and hearings.

All the more that he has refused to dissociate himself of the Regime that commited those crimes.

One can always find excuses for let's say blood spilled during the revolution in street combats like these for which only those involved are to be blamed or accused of savagery ( on both sides-Jaleh Square massacre included -General Oveissi-Revolutionary provocations):

JAVIDAN: Shah's Imperial Guard dies during an attack by Khomeini guerillas (1979)

HISTORY OF VIOLENCE: Man Arrested For Being a SAVAK Agent (1979)

Even in the case of ugly Street Mob Mentality like this over which few people have control when violence takes on the streets:

pictory:(FOR REFERENDUM BASHERS) Women Punched in Face by Revolutionaries

Or for let's say Trials of former Generals of the Imperial Army loyal to an Order that has been toppled by the majority of the the population:

JAVIDAN: Generals Ayat Mohagheghi and Mehdi Rahimi

The Generals Widow By Cyrus KADIVAR

For after all Justice is the Rule of the NEW Majority and how that Majority feels it should be carried out based on a set of rules accepted by all as standard.

But can the same be said of Cold Blood Murder or Assassinations ?:

Dialogue of murder:A cautionary tale that must not be forgotten By Cyrus KADIVAR

JAVIDAN: Farokhroo Pārsā (1922-1980) 

JAVIDAN: Fereydoon Farrokhzad (1935-1992)

BOOK: EVEN AFTER ALL THIS TIME By Afschineh Latifi ( A Memoir )

Including outside Iran:

PARIS GATHERING: Shapour Bakhtiar and Soroush Katibeh memory honored in Paris (FRANCE)

ROYAL MARTYR: Prince Shahriar Shafiq Remembered

BOOK: New Revelations on Bakhtiar's Assassination

HISTORY OF VIOLENCE: First Assassination Attempt on Shapour Bakhtiar (1980)

Assassination of Shapour Bakhtiar (French TV)

I can fully understand Mohsen Moussavi or Mehdi Karoubi's Strategic calculations in not wanting to jeapordize their own future ( however Moussavi likes to be compared to Amir Kabir- he yet has to prove that he is living up to the same intellectual honesty) and also why not accept that by doing so they are trying to protect the Green Movement of being accused of foreign manipulation. But quite honestly has this attitude paid off or truly protected the Green's or other members of Iran's civil society who have been and are being imprisoned, raped, killed or forced into exile ? ...

It is the ambiguity of these SELECTED candidates Turned Heroes (or rather Celebrity Rock Stars of the Islamic Republic's Political Arena due to Circumstances that largely surpass their own petty selfs) that is being questioned as well as their intellectual and political responsability which is being put to the test.

No one wishes to Green Movement to Ebb or lose influence or ground however one can and should legitimately ask what the SELECTED Leaders hope to achieve by being Politically Neutral towards not only the Government but the entire Ideological foundations of a Regime which they helped create and which is responsible for the misery of Iranians for more than 30 years ...

Khomeini and Khamenei opinions about Mousavi in 80s

DIPLOMATIC HISTORY: Mehdi Karroubi Expelled From Mecca (1987)

And again of the Two I have always expressed my preference

SATIRE: I voted ;0) 

prior to the pseudo Elections warning everyone to at least make the choice for the least controversial of the 4 candidates than fall for another trap of endorsing such individuals with a public record of loyalty to the regime:

SATIRE: Green Ambush for Mohsen Rezaee ;0)

Watch Part of a TV debate in 1980 on anti-revolutionary elements in Iran, between Mohsen Rezaei, then head of revolutionary Guards and Banisadr, the very first president of the Islamic Republic Iran who fled the country after his failure against Rezaei and his confederates:

//irannegah.com/Video.aspx?id=859

My Humble Opinion,

DK

Did Khomeini have any part in the genocide?

To Mr Sahimi and those who are happy to remain in denial:

Would you care to enlighten us of the alleged role of Imam Khomeini (if this is your preferred mode of addressing him) in the alleged genocide of mujahedin and other groupings? Did he by any chance have a hand in this allegedly criminal deed? If by any remote chance he had any part in it then would you care to tell us what should we think of those who still adhere to his principles and philosophy and even hold his picture close to their heart? If they happend to disapprove of that allegedly crimical act, (sorry that the figure is not in the order of 5 million to satisfy the minimum required to quailfy for genocide) would it not be reasonable to hear some expression of disgust or disapproval (more than 20 years later)?

FR

Only a court of law....

Only a court of law, based on evidence, can hold Mousavi criminally responsible for the executions of thousands of political
prisoners in Iran in the 1980s.

In the meanwhile, many of us would want to know, if he knew about them, how  he reacted when he found out, or at least, how  he now feels about those atrocities happening on his watch, and under his nose.

Too much to ask?

You do not know what you are talking about!

Those who hold Mousavi responsible for the executions of thousands of political prisoners in Iran in the 1980s do not know what they are talking about and simply repeat a baseless tired slogan, or do know and want to fool those who do not know.

The culprits behind the executions were the judiciary and Ministry of Intelligence, none of which was under the control of the PM at that time.

Mousavi must explain, at some point, what his thoughts are about those executions. But, he had no role in them. He has said he was not aware of the executions until after they happened, and two completely different people, Dr. Abbas Milani (see his profile of Mousavi) and the late Grand Ayatollah Montazeri - the man who bravely stood against the executions - support Mousavi's claim.

So, stop your nonsense. Stick to facts, and if you have anything other than an old tired slogan, put it on the table. People like me do not have "aghd-e Okhovvat" with Mousavi. If he had a role in it, so be it. But, bring out the evidence, not a tired, old, baseless slogan.

For those of you who want to learn about the real Mousavi, I suggest you read the following article:

//www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2010/02/the-political-evolution-of-mousavi.html

Mammad

Parkhash, thanks for the info

some say it was 5 Million, all were innocent babies and Mousavi pulled the trigger on each one.

Everyone knows the Prime Minister was the supreme leader and the President too.

Also, some people say your disguise is working great.

Is he against violence?!!

Excuse me but are we talking about the same Mir Hossein Mussavi whose term as the IRI prime minister witnessed a gemocide of, some say 4000 and some say 20,000, magnitude? Has he ever shown any sign of discomfort, never minde remorse, by the fully publicized criminal activties of the very regime whose leader's picture adorned Mussavi's haft-sin table? 

Or are we talking about a Mussavi who was born last year and his past we cannot recall due to being conveniently amnesiac?

Or is it that we have to go by his words today and leave yesterday for the proverbial "history to decide"?

Is there any remedy for chronic denail?

FR

King Arthur Court

As the people were rubbed of their first “Bidari” by the hollow promises & the dictatorial court of the very old “Guardian K The first” thirty one years ago they are once again going through a second “Bidari.” The court this time is still run by the first era left over. The very old "Guardian “K The Second” is the people's king and they have the false pretenses of “Mr. M & M” & the show cases of “Mr. A.N.” to save the court from its complete collapse.    

statira

i hear you.

you say that: "Be ghole marood bayad ye cheezi begeh ke hameh khosheshoon biad."

that was exactly one of his problems: he said "cheez" too many times.  he has the charisma of a door knob.  don't mean to offend you but some people are just not inspirational like the old guards mousavi and karoubi (even if they have good intentions).  not to mention reza pahlavi.

He loves his people

I think he truely loves Iran and his poeple. He has more a nationalistic side into him than others. If he pretends he is following Khomeini's way is because there are still a lot of stupid and religious people in Iran. Be ghole marood bayad ye cheezi begeh ke hameh khosheshoon biad.

The fact that he is against any violence shows how patriotic he is. All those terrorist groups like Fadayan e slum, Fadayan e khalgh, Mujahedeen e khar va toudeis and remnant of Ghajaris were a bunch of foreign agents and traitors who had no love for their people. 

seamorgh

I am not pro-Mousavi.  But, I definitely, supported those who voted for him. 

You are right, the events of June-July of 2009, have indeed traumatized the Iranians who love their country and their "Hamvatans".  If you are not one them, you are neither an Iranian nor a human being.

Unfortunately, there is no medication for your disorder.  

seamorgh

how long did it take you to get these images out of your mind:

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//craftivism.com/blog.html/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/iranelection.jpg

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please provide the name of medication and dosage that enbaled you to forget these events.  thanks in advance.

MA BIDARIM: Interesting that Qajar Antheme prevails in IRI ...

While they Bash the Pahlavis ...

When was the last time these fellows admited that we even had a Constitutional Revolution a century ago ?

HISTORY FORUM: Nader Naderpour on Iran's Constitutional Revolution and European Rennaissance (1996)

Or Secularism was a guarantee for Democratic thought ?

HISTORY FORUM: Ahmad Kasravi's Life, Assassination and Intellectual Legacy 64 years On ...

Oh Well MirHossein Jaan Thanks for the lecture on Iran's Cultural priorities and the images of the filmmakers like Majid Majidi, Bahram Bayzai, and who started off at Kanoon Institute founded by Her Majesty ...

pictory: Documentary film on Kanoon Institute (1973)

As well as Dariush Mehrjui ( Who studied in UCLA thanks to Pahlavi University exchanges) who despite seeing his film Gav troubled by the Pahlavi era Censors was actually supported by the Shahbanou who endorsed the film's release:

MON CINEMA: Dariush Mehrjui discusses "THE COW"

Unlike ...

Bahman Ghobadi :

LES INROCK's: Les Chats Persans entre en Resistance

Abbas Kiarostami:

BINOCHE FEMME DANGEREUSE! By DK

Golshifteh Farahani:

Banned Hollywood Dream by DK

Marjane Satrapi:

Mehdi Kalhor cultural advisor to President Ahmadinejad wants to Ban Persepolis at Cannes and the Oscars by DK

Or Niki Karimi :

One Night does not get Film Release License in Iran despite international and critical acclaim

But Well You have my moral support in your commendable endeavors for whatever it is worth ...

The worst I can wish you is ... to Succeed !

But do try the Pahlavi Tune You may actually end up liking it ...

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKtii8mH3F0 

All the More that unlike You WE ARE AWAKE !

LOL

Stuck in June 2009

it seems like some people still think they are in the pre-election phase. I guess its hard for some people to deal with their PTSD. You know, there are some medications out there for these sorts of disorders...