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AnonymousIrooni

You make a lot of good points, but I tend to disagree with your theory about the reason behind anti-semitic outbursts of the kind we witness here. It has nothing to do with Iran. There is no rivalry between Iran and Israel. If anything, the creation of Israel can only be seen as a great boost to the Iranian struggle for the rebirth of Iranian identity.
I believe it is rather a mixture of religious `jealousy`, for want of a better word, southern Lebanese nationalism and leftist bitterness that finds its expression in the usual hallucinations about imperialism and the like. You see, after WWII, the Left had convinced itself by the delusion that saving the poor Jews from the evils of right wing radicalism (which as seen as the arm of capitalisam) was one of its achievements. So Jews were fine as long as they were this victim awaiting the Left`s salvation. Zionism and the success of the state of Israel shattered this lovely rather narcissistic dream of the Left and replaced it with bitter disillusionment, and they are not gonna forgive us for that. This is also essentially a religious issue. The same seems to have been the case with Muhammad and Martin Luther if you look at it from that particular angle.

[Since you mentioned `meshugene`, I can`t help adding this here: Rambam (Rav Moshe ben Memon-Maimonides), the famous medieval Jewish philosopher, physician (he was the physician of the famous Saladin)and rabbi has a famous epistle to the Yemenite Jewish community in which he has written with rare bluntness, though using code words, his opinion about many hot topics of his age. In it he also talks about a certain key historical and religious figure as the `meshugga` משוגע (the Hebrew root for Meshugene.) I won`t specify here who was meant since we have enough extra noise already, but you can ask your friend and find out for yourself, if you haven`t guessed it yet. ;-) ]

Kurdish Warrior

I have always said it. I support IRI for their positive points and condemn them for their negative points, but most of all I condemn west for years of lies and crimes they have committed toward us from 100 years ago till now. Same goes to Zionists in Israel and around the world.

You are quite a worrier. If all the worriers in Iran were like you, there wouldn't be anything left from Iran.

To dariush

I totally agree with you on this part;
"There are wolves under sheep skin every where". Specially the ones who are in favour of the IRI but just won't admit it.

Poor Zion

You sound like an intellectual caught among idiots! Yet it is you who post ancient religious fairy tales as if they were facts and don't have the intellectual courtesy to reply to critique. "Rational" is anyone who agrees with you. Everyone else is anti-semetic. Perfect!

Anonymous Observer / Kurdish Warrior

You say Palestinian authority president signed off on it. Who put him as the president? West and Israel. His government has no legitimacy legally and morally. Of course he will sign. He is willing to allow Israel to kill the Palestinians, signing off on this issue is nothing. You should know better.
I know Abdel Nasser was the first wanting to change the name of Persian golf, but who was behind the Idea?

Kurdish Warrior
I hope you are who you say you are. There are wolves under sheep skin every where. what will be used against Iran and Iranians is when Iranians criticize IRI and do not west and Israel.

Iranian/IRI Anti Semites

Dear Zion, As you can see, we have many anti-semites on this website. As one of my jewish friends you to say, the have alot of CHUTZPHA. In persian we call CHUTZPAH- POAR ROO. They are also very HASOOD (jealouse). The Poar Roo factor comes from the fact that they don't give up. The hasoody comes from the the fact that within 60 years, a tiny nation of Israel has produced a great democracy. Yes, we know that Israel has many faults, and as an Iranian, I hate the way Israel treats the Palestinians. Additionally, I am aware of the many conflicts within the Israeli society. Nonetheless, its a democracy and Israelis don't kill eacother over politics or religion. Israelis produce medicine, technology have around 20+ companies traded on the NASDAQ and what have we BAZANDEHA produced in the last 60 years? As Iranians, with all of our oil wealth and brain power, we are no match for the Israelis. Our civilization has been destroyed by bunch of mullahs still stuck in the 6th century. We are the world 4th producer of Oil but have to ration it amongst our citizens. Our number one export is Islamic Fundamentalism. This is what we can be proud of. So you see, this Jealousy (HASOODY) drives some of our Hamvatans MESHOUGANEH/DIVANEH (another great word from my jewish friend) . We can not stand being in the situation we are so we blame the zionists. It has to be the fault of the jews. Can't you see? Now we come up with none sense about Jews killing 75,000 persians 2500 years ago. This is an outright fabrication. I have read Jewish history and Persians are looked upon as just saviors to the jews who allowed them to build their second temple under Ezra and Nehemiah. Cyrus our great Persian king gave freedom to the jews. Its all over the jewish scriptures. Cyrus is a hero to all Jews. These Poar Roos are some how trying to make a connection with what happened 2500 years ago with zionisim and "Jewish Behavior" today. No connection. Its all Hasoody Zion. All of it.

To: Dariush

Arabian Gulf is a "Zionist" plan?!!! How funny!! If you knew anything about anything, you would know that "Arabian Gulf" was invented, and first used by the pan-Arab leader Gamal Abdel Nasser more than fifty years ago. Here's link to a Wikipedia article on it.

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_Gulf

There are many other sources on this subject as well. Just Google Gamal Abdel Nasser and "Arabian Gulf" and you will see them.

Also, here’s a link to the Arab Summit declaration which includes the statement on the three islands. The Palestinian Authority President was there and signed off on it.

//www.sol-sd.com/news/117/ARTICLE/3016/2008-0...

Ironically, however, these are not the points. Your ignorance and conspiracy minded theory just shows how shallow and superficial this anti-Israel sentiment is. I am not an Israeli, nor am I Jewish. I am an Iranian. I also think that there are legitimate human rights issue in the Palestinian territories that need to be examined by the international community. However, WE, as Iranians should not be the standard bearer of that issue. Additionally, there are many reasons for us to have good relations with Israel. Especially in light of the common history that we share, and the strategic alliance that we can have with Israel. Just look at Turkey. We should follow their example instead of getting mired in a conflict with Israel over Arab issues. We do not have a dog in this fight!!!

To dariush

First of all you are nothing but an ignorant hypocrite and racist individual. Did I ever mention that I'm separatist? Get your fact straight. I'm no supporter of Komala in fact I'm capitalist. Watch your words carefully when you talk to your Iranian country men as some opportunists might use it as tool. I hope you got the idea. My family fought for Iran at the time when we were at war so don't come with any separatists accusations. Remember without Kurds there wouldn't be an Iran. Read history books (Medes/Parthians)so you can free your mind. If you are going to criticize someone for their opinion do it with some fact and not from a thin air.

Noise to you, News to some of us!!

Say no to war, no to genocide, no to killing of innocent children and civilians; and no to illegal occupations!

As Martin Luther King Said:

"I don't want war no more!!"

Noise

Dear Kurdish Warrior and Anonymous Observer,

Thanks for voicing the only rational response to all this hot air. I think however that arguing with this gang of `friends` is of little use. We should regard them effectively as white noise and simply accept the fact that all meaningful discussion in topics related to Jews and Israel here has to be done via noisy channels. Not a big deal. Makes little difference.

Thank you Sadegh

I hope everyone read Sadegh's writing and references. It leaves no doubt in anyone's mind about Israel plans for the region and the world.

Anonymous Observer / Kurdish Warrior

Anonymous Observer.
Who is behind the name change of Persian Gulf? Wasn't it British and U.S. and who is behind them? The Zionists!
Who is behind the claims for the three Islands by Arabs? Again British and U.S. and behind them the Zionists.
If you do not see this you have a lot to learn!
We are not in favor of Arabs. That is why we fought them and Iran will fight them again if there is any attack by them just as will fight if there be any attack by Israel!!!
Iran has rejected any claim toward any of Iran's territories and will defend it at any cost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!That is one of the positive points that I will support.
Palestinians have not done any of what you mentioned. Palestinians, Africans, Lebanese and other like them that are being suppressed and killed should be supported by any nation who claims to be humane!!! If IRI has done some wrong, that doesn't make their position on this issue wrong!!!
Kurdish warrior
Unlike your statement, Iranians have nothing in common with a genocidal regime such as Israel!!!
Iranians has always done the right thing.
We have always helped the innocent whether Jews in the past or Palestinians today. This is something we can be proud of.
Jews innocence yesterday doesn't make them innocent today. This shows we are standing for justice not self interest.
About moving to Gaza? Sometimes reaching their voice to others is better than fighting in Gaza.
The same question goes for you.
Were were you ""the Kurdish Warrior" when Iraqis attack your state?
I was in Gillanh Gharband and Ghasreh Shirin. some of your brothers "KOMOLEH" who were backed by west and Israel came at knight and decapitated 17 solders, just in one count. All those solders were doing, was protesting you and your family from Baasis. Do you think the Kurds who were asking for partition in the name of independence would have survived Saddam, if it was not for IRI? And what were the Pahlavi lovers and MEK and others doing? Being supported by Israel and west to kill Iranians. Ahmadinejad hadn't made his statements then. So his statement can not be blamed for it. You see all these craps about peace, love, democracy is nothing but bunch of BS.
"IT IS ABOUT ONE WORLD ORDER, RULLED BY ZIONISTS AND SLAVERY FOR THE REST"

support Turkey

not to worry, either goverment and the pepole of iran have much more sympathy and support for turkey than they do for plastine, go and figure

To all Palestinian lovers

If you support the Palestinians so much, why don't you move to Gaza and taste their freedom. I'm not an Israeli fan but I'm def not supporting Palestinians who supported Saddam during the Iran-Iraq war, whom now receiving funds from IRI government that belongs to Iranian people. So stop being bunch of hypocrites and calling people Zionist. Those who are educated would know that we have more things in common with Israel than Palestine if we were forced to choose a side.

What Have Palestinians Done for Us Lately?!!!

I see all these attacks on Zion. At least the guy is trying to make a connection and build a bridge by talking about our common history.

Aside from sending fighters to fight alongside the Iraqis during the Iran-Iraq war, calling the Persian Gulf Arabian Gulf and most recently signing off on the Damascus Arab League summit declaration affirming UAE's ownership of the three islands in the Persian Gulf, can one of you Israel bashers kindly advise us as to what our Palestinian brothers have done for us lately that compel you to attack Israel so viciously on their behalf?

It's actually kind of funny, if it wasn't ironic. Everyone on this site throws a hissy fit when they see Google call Persian Gulf Arabian Gulf, but at the same time, those same people want to go to war and annihilate our country essentially for the cause of a people (Palestinians)who support that name change!!!!

Manesh

I told you your story no matter how good the end result was the same as Zion. You tried to act like a pure Iranian, but now every one can see you are not. You just said all that Iran, Iran to get people fooled like Zion. You are also a zionist like Zion. You all think you are smart, but you are no match for Iranians. This was a good lesson for you.
Who cares what your Bible says about a few thousand years ago. It is today that counts. 99% of world population are against your genocidal actions today!!! If you want to help Jews go stop Israel and west from committing these crimes!!!

"God's plan for Iran" & Purim

From American prospect:

//www.prospect.org/cs/articles?articleId=11541 

A few very important points need to be made

Hamas recognized the 1967 borders as the basis for any future Palestinian state and Israel responded by making an incursion into Gaza killing four children and their mother.

Israeli fire hit a house in the Gaza Strip today while a family was eating breakfast, killing six Palestinians, including four children and their mother, residents and medical officials said.

//www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israeli-fire-kills-4-children-in-gaza-816784.html 

Hamas did state that they would not recognize Israel, which remains unacceptable, but the recognition of the '67 borders is equivalent to the tacit acknowledgment that Israel is here to stay. Israel has never recognized a Palestinian state as delineated by international law in accordance with UN Resolution 242 and the World Court decision of 2004. These are the facts. Israel pursued exactly the same line in the 70s and 80s when the PLO was on the verge of recognizing Israel – they invaded Lebanon and had the audacity to term it a ‘peace offensive’ so that they could obliterate the PLO who dared to accede to the international consensus. With regard to ancient Persia's role in freeing the Jewish people from their erstwhile enslavement, that is something of which we must surely be proud (if it is in fact true and veracious). Sorry to say this, but your historical comparisons are really outlandish. Israel has the 4th most powerful military force in the world and has the unconditional backing of the world's only superpower. Hamas was funded by the Israelis in order to undermine the secular PLO, is a inept rag-tag band of zealots, and Gazans unfortunately have often been compelled to turn to religion and radicalism because they have absolutely nothing else left, living as they do in the world’s largest prison on the edge of complete meltdown and humanitarian crisis.

//www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/gaza-fuel-crisis-forces-un-to-stop-food-aid-deliveries-815427.html

//www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=3413

Largely because of studied ignorance by the mainstream media, few Americans are aware of the details of the IDF's summer maneuvers in the Gaza Strip. But the details are plain enough: Shootings of civilians of all ages, fire fights with various groups besides Hamas, assaults on PA ministries, mass detentions of Hamas legislators, house demolitions, concentrated artillery barrages, airstrikes on the infrastructure, and a naval blockade. Although Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert indicated willingness last month to wind down IDF operations, there is no sign of this happening. Moreover, talks among Palestinian factions about forming a governing coalition are inconclusive and a Fatah-Hamas civil war is in the offing.6       

A week before Operation Summer Rains got underway, the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs estimated that from January to mid-June the IDF fired 8,380 artillery shells into the tiny Gaza Strip of 1.4 million inhabitants and armed Palestinian factions fired 896 home-made Qassam rockets into Israel. In early August, over a month after the start of Operation Summer Rains, the UN reported $15.5 million in infrastructure damage, at least 3,400 refugees, over 70% of the population dependant on food aid, and 25 Israelis injured. Doctors also reported treating Gazans with wounds caused by illegal cluster bombs. Coinciding with Prime Minister Olmert's announced plans to open talks with Abbas and the first anniversary of Gaza "disengagement" in early September, the Palestinian Centre on Human Rights released a report claiming that 228 Palestinians were killed during the IDF campaign, nearly half of whom were "civilians" and 48 were children. The PCHR also reported 813 wounded, including 216 children, 30 women, four paramedics, and four journalists. Violent acts continue to occur daily in Gaza.7

Second, both Israel and the US have threatened Iran with destruction in the event of any Iranian attack. The US has already drawn up plans to attack Iran and continues to do so.  Here is only the most recent:

//iranian.com/main/news/2008/05/04/united-states-drawing-plans-strike-iranian-insurgency-camp 

Just like the asinine and historically ignorant comparisons which compare Hitler and Ahmadinejad your allusions don't have a leg to stand on. Finally, I know that you say “The story of Purim has very little historical basis if any”; that being said, you do rely on such a mythology despite the fact that the historical dynamic of anti-Semitism has changed markedly in the 21st century and continued to decline (see Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, ‘A Year after Iraq War: Mistrust in Europe of America even Higher, Muslim Anger Persists’, Summary of Findings, 16 March 2004).  Using the Bible as a point of reference (even if not the basis of your argument) in discussions relating to geopolitics is very dangerous indeed. I also find it very dishonest given the fact that you mention the oppression of the Jews in a Biblical context in order to make a political point that you fail to address the Israelites genocidal campaign and destruction of the Amalekites.

"Annihilate the Amalekites from the beginning to the end. Kill them and wrest them from their possessions. Show them no mercy. Kill continuously, one after the other. Leave no child, plant, or tree. Kill their beasts, from camels to donkeys." (Sam.15:2-3)

I wonder why you ignore this little nugget of information. Also see this article in which an Israeli rabbi argues that a genocidal campaign of equal ferocity should be carried out against the Palestinians.

//weekly.ahram.org.eg/2008/892/re72.htm

"All of the Palestinians must be killed; men, women, infants, and even their beasts." This was the religious opinion issued one week ago by Rabbi Yisrael Rosen, director of the Tsomet Institute, a long-established religious institute attended by students and soldiers in the Israeli settlements of the West Bank. In an article published by numerous religious Israeli newspapers two weeks ago and run by the liberal Haaretz on 26 March, Rosen asserted that there is evidence in the Torah to justify this stand. Rosen, an authority able to issue religious opinions for Jews, wrote that Palestinians are like the nation of Amalekites that attacked the Israelite tribes on their way to Jerusalem after they had fled from Egypt under the leadership of Moses. He wrote that the Lord sent down in the Torah a ruling that allowed the Jews to kill the Amalekites, and that this ruling is known in Jewish jurisprudence.  

An invention called 'the Jewish people'

An invention called 'the Jewish people'

//www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/959229.html

If the majority of the Jews were not exiled,
how is it that so many of them reached almost every country on earth? Zand says they emigrated of their own volition or,
if they were among those exiled to Babylon, remained there because they chose to. Contrary to conventional belief, the Jewish religion tried to induce members of other faiths to
become Jews, which explains how there came to be millions of Jews in the world. As the Book of Esther, for example, notes, "And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of
the Jews fell upon them."
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//www.cassiopaea.org/cass/biblewho1.htm

It is theorized, based on the evidence, that the E version was written by a Levite priest advocate of the Mosaic line of priests at Shiloh, and J was written by an advocate of the Aaronic line of priests and the Davidic royal house at Jerusalem. The conclusion is that they
were each written down from oral sources of myth and legend with some history mixed in after the purported split of the two kingdoms,
and then recombined after the Syrian conquest during the reign of Hezekiah. However, it is also entirely likely that there never was
a united kingdom of Israel in Palestine, but that these stories of a great kingdom were tribal memories of something else altogether.
The author of J is estimated to have lived between 848 and 722 BC and the author of E between 922 and 722 BC. Thus it is that E is
probably the older document and J represented either a different perspective, or changes that were added.
In the Bible, the story of the unification of the tribes of Israel under David, followed by the great reign of Solomon, followed by
schism in the reign of Solomon’s son Rehoboam, is the central theme.
The “hope of Israel” is based on the idea of reunification of Judah and Israel under a Davidic king. Of course, all of this is based on the giving of the land to the Children of Israel when they were “brought out of Egypt” by the hand of God during the Exodus to begin with.
Moses represents the divinely inspired leader who revealed the god of the patriarchs to the nation as the “Universal Deity.” Does the testimony of the spade support the Exodus on either side of the story?
The Exodus story describes how a nation enslaved grows great in exile and then,
with the help of the Universal God, claims its freedom from what was then the greatest nation on earth: Egypt.
Powerful imagery, yes? Indeed! So important is this story of liberation that fully four-fifths of the central scriptures of Israel are devoted to it.
The fact is: two hundred years of intensive excavations and study of the remains of ancient Egypt and Palestine have failed to support the Exodus story in the context in which it is presented.
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As Iranians we have learned the story of a king coming up on an old man who
was planting a tree. He asked the old man, why you plant this tree. the king said; You will be dead long before, it will bare any fruits. The old man replied;
those who came before us planted the seeds and I enjoyed the fruits of there labor, now I plant so future generation get to enjoy …

Prospect of war and destruction is inherently the legacy of Zionism. Fathers who choose to give such legacy to their children can hope their children do their dirty work for them:

“for no reason - he didn't throw a stone, did nothing - bang, a bullet in the stomach, he shot him in the stomach and the guy is dying on the pavement and we keep going, apathetic.”
“He grabbed the boy. I am a degenerate if I am not telling you the truth. He broke his hand here at the wrist, broke his leg here. And started to stomp on his stomach, three times, and left. We are all there, jaws dropping,
looking at him in shock...
'The next day I go out with him on another patrol, and the soldiers are already starting to do the same thing."

A double-dip for Zionists

No I dont worry about what realy happened some 2500 years or so ago.The fairy tale of purim and buch of other alike bibilical stories  have been fed to evangialistic churchs cross the world(not only US) particulary in US. they have been able to raise money and gather support for their cause. not that zionists themselves believe on them ,Mr zion has been clear on that, calling it fariy tale.they just fuel the crowd by reading them such non sens.

however Mr zion has been creative and smartly tried to manipulate iand turning it into a persian tale, another Shrian-Farhad kind of story a love story which ends with ever lasting love betwen king and her jew queen. yeah you are right who cares what happened then, 2300 years ago oh mannn you gotta be kidding?? the attidue is different in any given evangialistic church on any give sunday. the very same story has been used to convice church goers to support and fund israel.yes the hollyland(what a name!!) is once again under the threat and the pepole who are aginst the wish of god are the same pepole in the BOOK OF ESTHER, and the conclusion cant be nothing but do them what 2300 years ago esther and moradchei did. the very same story which Mr zion calls it the most persian of jews has been subject of preaching in those churches ending with a prayer

bomb bomb Iran, nuke bomb Iran  

very clever Mr zion, but again you need to remember the ones you are dealing with on the 60th birthday are not from Haman's tribe.we wont be impressed by your danish pastery, give it to gazans.

Ahmadinejad's Destiny: Purim

Quote from: //roguejew.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/ahmadinejads-destiny-purim/ 

"I would just like to offer Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinjad a reminder of the what happened to the last Persian Schmuck who thought he was going to get away with killing all of the Jewish People"

Notice the scholarly gentleman at his desk (with a baret?) gazing at the dangling oriental  with stereotypical mosques in the background.

Don't worry Bahram ...

There was never any 75,000 people slaughtered. These stories are always exaggerated to impress the followers and make them devoted to their tribe.
The fact is story of Esther and Mordechai is only mentioned in the bible and nowhere else. If there even was an incident like this, it was on a much smaller scale between much more minor players in the kingdom. Sometimes, as you may remember from the book daijan Napoleon, a little skrimish outside Kazeroon between a jandarm and a few highway robbers can become "the Battle of Kazeroon" with 5,000 soldiers, artilleray and the English Red coats! Here's what we do know:

- there was never a Queen Esther. She must have been a maiden in the harem of the king or a satrap. If she had been the queen, I doubt she'd get to see the king only once in five years (seventh year of his reign to twelfth year of his reign) and then be fearful for her life to go talk to him and refer to herself as "king's servant" who shall be put to death if she calls on the king without being asked. Also, it is nearly impossible for the king to marry anyone, let alone make her queen of the known world, without knowing who her father father was or even what tribe sha came from.

- There was never a Mordechai elevated to any ranks that high; let alone a minister. The only jew we know of in the service of any Achamanid king is Daniel who was the cup bearer for Darius I

- Nobody knows who this king Ahasuerus was? Was he an achamenid king or a satrap or a mayor??

- There were never any massacares of any people that we know of under achamanids by any king. No king certainly gave carte-blanch to any people to wipe out any other people;

- The way a court was structured, especially around the capital, was different peoples of the empire would send battalions or regiments, or larger contingencies to serve. They were not integrated into a single arm. Instead, they stayed as a unit commanded their leader from that same tribe. Several of these units would then be under the command of a general and thus they would figure in the army. These tribal leaders were always in competition with other tribal leaders for advantage. The king and the generals wanted them to constantly butt heads (instead of uniting). Most likely Mordechai was the leader of the jewish contingent of army and was in a riff with another tribal leader or even the commanding general such as a Hamman.

- The distances in the Persian empre were very far. If Mordechai sent a letter to all the jews in "127 provinces" on the "thirteenth day of the month Adar" it is impossible for all the jews throughout the empire to have received the order and killed 75,000 "enemies" by the "fourteenth day of the month Adar (unless he FedEX'ed the message). For example, the distance between Shusha and Sardis was about 3,000 kilometerers. Herodutes marvels at how the royal carriers, riding full gallop in rain, sleet and snow, were able to cover this distance by the Fourth day. I leave you to imagine how Mordechai got the message to 127 provinces in on day.

Bottom line is this is all nonsense. Nobody massacred 75,000 people in ancient times in lands with so few inhabitants. The whole point of the story is: other people are after us but we are smart and God is on our side so we will smite them in the end. Idiots! Millions will die and millions more will suffer for decades and nothing will change.

thanks for link Mr zion

chapter 9 verses 10-19 a must read

There is only one version to the story

It is in the Bible, and anyone interested can read it here and see for herself:
//www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt3301.htm

Manesh

With all the good things you said, at the end you asked for Israel to help you to get rid of mullahs.
So the end result to your opinion and Zion's story is about the same.
Zion call them Hamans and that they should be destroyed and you call the monkeys and ask for Zionists to help you to destroy them.
Didn't Israel helped Iraq and MEK to destroy Iran and Iranian solders "the true Iranians" and civilians? This is the help you will get. Who in your opinion is the real Iranians? The ones that just carry a Persian name and run away when going gets tough or sell their country for a piece of pie or the ones who defended Iran and Iranians with their life even if their name is Ghorboon Ali and Yardan Gholi? It is the action that counts not words! We do not need any criminal states to help us in this! Don't let them use your word against your Iran and Iranians!

purim in jerusalem post

surfing the internetand trying to get as many views and thought as possible, I was told in a talkback fourm in jerasulem post a well known and reputiable news agency by a fellow israeli that 'we will have the same faith' as my countryman Haman and the 75000 slained in 3 days which are celeberated by jews and symbolized the defeat of their enemy . this was the answer I received after posting my comment.

A short search in internet rendered a lot,75000 pepole all non-jews were killed the best estimate would be 1 out 10 was slaughtered.what should we call this??ethnic cleansy or maybe the first hollu,,,,,,opps dont say that hollyword

the reciepe of danmarky pastery isnt found in book of her majesty esther!!!75000 is right there, read the book.

we iranians are the most peaceful on this earth, those who visited the ancient city of Hamadan and stoped by her shrine would know how well it has been taken care of and it is open to everybody,She is the queen to order the massacre of 75000 pepole in Iran, had it been arabs or their better cusines jews, there wouldnt have been left a brick of that temple.                   

Purim is anti-Persian

Despite what the writer Zion says here, i.e., that it is about the animosity between the  "Amalekites" and jews, from a 1000 years  earlier, central message of Purim is how  Persians wanted to exterminate the jews and how  Esther, Mordechai, and God saved them.  The compliments to Persians in this version is for this audience only.  Everywhere else, it's the other version.

More importantly, these days Purim is used to attack others pre-emptively  on grounds that if Israel doesn't attack them, they will exterminate the jews like they tried and failed at the time of Esther and Mordechai.  

Didn't Dr. Baruch Goldstein attack praying Moslems in the mosque on Purim? Didn't jewish activists dress up in their Purim costumes to protest Ahmadinejad's speech at Columbia?  Just google Purim and Ahmadinejad and see how many articles show up. The point is, they are making a connection between this ancient biblical fairy tale and the very real dangers of today's political climate.  If Israel didn't have any designs on Iran, wouldn't they cite the good experience of ancient Persians sympathizing with Jews in Babylon to cool the temperatures? Instead of hyping up Purim to raise the temperature?

It is true that Israel is very powerful today.  It is also true that the sons and daughters of Israel serve her proudly and effectively.  I am  happy for them because of this.   They have realized an ancient dream.  But, they made a few fatal mistakes:from inception, Israel was comitted to making sure nobody around them could ever be strong enough to threaten them.  They comitted themselves to weakening all their neighbors, in ever widening concentric circles.  (Now it is Iran's turn after Egypt, Lebanon, Iraq, Palestine, etc.). Well, where will thsi end? It's a sure recipe for self-destruction. It is also a sure way of making more & more enemies until you are overpowered, and then the whole thing commences  again.  All because Israelis have this intellectual flaw in believing they are about to be destroyed, and that anyone who doesn't say what they like to hear must be an anti-semite. .   No one can make enemies faster and better than Israelis. When you pit yourself against an ever widening circle of  enemies, no matter how smart or how powerful you are, chances are  you better the odds of being destroyed than otherwise. 

In any case, Israel bombing Iran is almost as disasterous for Israelis as bombing themselves.   The real threat to Israel comes from, believe it or not, Christians in Europe and U.S.  Iran has been blessed/damned with a geo-political situation where there will always have distrusts and animosities of Arabs, and where West's influence stops.  In other words, if the situation  ever spins out of control, the West turns against Israel, and  the Arabs go after them,  Iran is their natural last refuge.   Just like when Babylonians (arabs) took them prisoner and Persians released them and just like when the Romans barred barred them from Holy lands and they came to  Iran, where they set up jewish seminaries in freedom and completed the work on Talmud.  (by the way, this is a very important chapter of Persians & jews that rarely anyone talks about).

Bombing Iran is bombing their own last refuge. It would be madness to cross that line and make eternal enemies of Persians. 

Wouldn't it be better if Israelis lent us a hand so we could get rid of  these monkeys ruling Iran and make this aid the basis of a future together?  Maybe they can pay us back for what Cyrus did for them.  I know most Israelis and jews everywhere generally know how much real Persians want this regime to go.  Why are they acting like this? 

This is my opinion.

Nice story....

Very interesting.

Ben

I don`t mind following an article with a constructive discussion. I try to respond only when I think I can shed more light on a relevant point. Cheers. :-)

What a cheap ploy

[Zionist] I see what you are trying to do and it isn't working.  You're trying to say that ahmadinejad is today's version of haman, right?  The fact is that Ahmadinejad NEVER said that israel should be wiped off the map.  Look, if you're genuinely concerned for the safety of Israel, don't be because Israel is NOT going to be attacked by Iran.  On the contrary, Iran is the victim of such threats (US and Israel both want to start a nuclear war with Iran).

Unless you speak persian and can prove that Iran is going to attack Israel...   Don't write such propaganda-filled garbage and claim that is has historical precedence.