God and religion business

On Benazir Bhutto, Islam and freedom of speech…

God and religion business
by Curious Joe
29-Dec-2007
 

Benazir Bhutto's assassination reminds me of the number of rednecks and misogynists in the US who are ready to bet that if either Hillary or Obama are elected next year, they'll be assassinated by January 2010.

It also makes me wonder when will the Iranians wake up and separate Disneyland/God/Religion from the State?

Proud of their 2500 years history, will the Iranians ever wake up to realize that the whole concept of “God” is nothing but a mere figment of human imagination – no matter whether it is marketed by the Bible, Torah, Qoran, or any other fairy tale -- and no matter how many billions in South America or Africa believe in such BS.

Mixing human well-being with illusions such as God and religion (as documented in Richard Dawkins 2007 book entitled “The God Delusion”) leads to the assassination of a speaker such as Benazir Bhutto today.

It is about time for 90% of human beings on this planet (and 80% of god-loving church goers in the US) to wake up and dump the American theocracy, the Jewish Wailing Wall, as well as the fundamentalism of IRI/Bin Laden/Taliban in the garbage of the human history.

Enough is enough with all this God and religion business. So, Benazir Bhutto is dead. For what, I ask you? Please don’t tell me that she was killed for the same reason as Olof Palmer in Sweden in 1986. If you believe that, then the Pakistanis must be as civilized as the Swedes...


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If Bahaiis are not so

by Hooshang (not verified) on

If Bahaiis are not so fearfull of truth why are they so anoyed and nervous about having Bahaiawareness.com in their living rooms. I happened to know a great number of es-Bahaiis, moslems and christians who read and compare from bahaiiawareness, babi sources and many other sources that brings them questions that cult members will be afraid to ask and answers that bahii friends wish to never hear it. What is the fruit of Babi and Bahai cause. A monument build on Zionist soil with money raised from Bahaii's, a scattered ziafats conducted in people's houses halsf of the attendies are there for persian food and tea. Or a stolen literature that are work of the moslems.


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Go to the source ......cont..

by ! (not verified) on

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People want clean water they go to its purest source, I am afraid the source you are recommending hooshang is infected with hidden agendas and paranoia.
Good luck, see how many people will bring you to their living room.


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Seeking the Truth

by Mona 19 (not verified) on

But, O my brother, when a true seeker determineth to take the step of search in the path leading to the knowledge of the Ancient of Days, he must, before all else, cleanse and purify his heart, which is the seat of the revelation of the inner mysteries of God, from the obscuring dust of all acquired knowledge, and the allusions of the embodiments of satanic fancy. He must purge his breast, which is the sanctuary of the abiding love of the Beloved, of every defilement, and sanctify his soul from all that pertaineth to water and clay, from all shadowy and ephemeral attachments.

He must so cleanse his heart that no remnant of either love or hate may linger therein, lest that love blindly incline him to error, or that hate repel him away from the truth. Even as thou dost witness in this day how most of the people, because of such love and hate, are bereft of the immortal Face, have strayed far from the Embodiments of the divine mysteries, and, shepherdless, are roaming through the wilderness of oblivion and error.

That seeker must at all times put his trust in God, must renounce the peoples of the earth, detach himself from the world of dust, and cleave unto Him Who is the Lord of Lords. He must never seek to exalt himself above any one, must wash away from the tablet of his heart every trace of pride and vainglory, must cling unto patience and resignation, observe silence, and refrain from idle talk. ...

- Book of Certitude by Baha'u'llah, p.192

Independent Investigation. A Prerequisite for All Seekers of Truth
The following verses need no comment or introduction:

"O ye who believe! If a wicked person comes to you with any news, ascertain the truth, lest ye harm people unwittingly, and afterwards become full of repentance for what ye have done."
- Qur'an 49:6

"A believer, a man from among the people of Pharaoh, who had concealed his faith, said: "Will ye slay a man because he says, 'My Lord is Allah'?- when he has indeed come to you with Clear (Signs) from your Lord? and if he be a liar, on him is (the sin of) his lie: but, if he is telling the Truth, then will fall on you something of the (calamity) of which he warns you: Truly Allah guides not one who transgresses and lies!"
- Qur'an 40:28

"and say not to any one who offers you a salutation: 'Thou art none of a believer!'"
- Qur'an 4:94


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opinions will differ

by Mona 19 (not verified) on

Obviously opinions will differ with different people according to the extent of one's familiarity with, and knowledge of the Baha'i Faith. Also, on the extent of one's personal association with Baha'is. And here we note that , notwithstanding the very large geographical spread of the Baha'i Faith, the number of Baha'is in the world - except in a few places -, is still very small, and the number of Muslims who have had opportunities to directly know and associate with Baha'is, is also very small.

It's an unfortunate fact that a large number of people, especially in the West, have many misconceptions and wrong ideas about Islam and Muslims. The reasons are many for this, including the role of the media and their statistically biased reporting of the negative, with very few positive stories about Islam. But a much more important reason (rather, the most important reason) for this misunderstanding and misinformation, has always (and since the inception of Islam), been the opposition of the Jewish and Christian clergy, and their false accusations and inciting remarks against Muslims and Muslim beliefs, as well as books written by missionaries and influential writers.

And now we see that most of what Muslims know about the Baha'i Faith at present, is from what other Muslims say, or from what they read in Muslim and other non-Baha'i sources.

Yet, would it be fair that while Muslims encourage others to learn about Islam and understand it from its own Holy Book, and books written by Muslim scholars, they themselves remain satisfied with what their clergy and others say about the Baha'i Faith? Without investigating the truth for themselves?

In the Holy Quran we find:

... and say not to any one who offers you a salutation: "Thou art none of a believer!" [4:94]

... "Will ye slay a man because he says, 'My Lord is Allah'?- when he has indeed come to you with Clear (Signs) from your Lord? and if he be a liar, on him is (the sin of) his lie: but, if he is telling the Truth, then will fall on you something of the (calamity) of which he warns you: Truly Allah guides not one who transgresses and lies! [40:28]

O ye who believe! If a wicked person comes to you with any news, ascertain the truth, lest ye harm people unwittingly, and afterwards become full of repentance for what ye have done. [49:6]


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I did my study and investigate the truth.

by Mona 19 (not verified) on

For me as a Baha'i with a Moslem background Bahá'u'lláh fulfils the promise of the Qur'an for the "Day of God" and the "Great Announcement," when "God" will come down "overshadowed with clouds." I see in the dramatic events of the Bábí and Bahá'í movements the fulfillment of many traditional statements of Prophet Muhammad, which have long been a puzzle.


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Go to Bahai awareness.com and get your objective

by ! (not verified) on

Spiritual disease is more contagious than physical disease, just try hangin out with a pessimistic, negative, depressed... suspicious, paranoid person and see how sick you will get in no time. that's why they say keep away from this kind if you want to be happy and sane.
why would anyone want to become hateful?
People are tired of the hateful and the filth they are putting out in the world, they are not going to bring it into their living room and infect themselves with the disease. good luck though, i am taking a break


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How many Bahaiis are allowed or given the opportunity to objecti

by ! (not verified) on

All of them sir, remmeber Bahais do their homework of self investigation of truth.
and they dont lose their head if they change course.


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and is recorded in quran to leave all the other religions alone

by ! (not verified) on

So why cant you leave people alone!!!!!!!!!!!?
The christians and the Jews dispute the claim of the great prophet Mohammad the way you dispute with Bahais.
His holiness Christ was from immaculate conception and the fellow christians ask you if the prophet Mohammad was also from the same or even a prophet at all, God forbid.
Every other religion before Islam discards the great prophet with the same method you use.
Keep at it, you are a good representation of what people should flee from.


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Bahai awareness.com in support of Hooshang

by Andullah (not verified) on

Go to Bahai awareness.com and get your objective view of Bahaiis. I strongly suggest that Bahaiis themsleves go this site and try in their own clear conscience come up with answers to these posed questions. may be then the light of truth will shine in their misguided hearts. I am not promoting this site as the only source they can go. I encourage every Bahai to read and understand Islam from reliable sources and reliable historians so that at the least they understand why their pioneers believed in Islam, prayed to god in the same way as moslims do and it is then that they will see they are mislead moslems who only got the half of the story. Bhaiis have every right to be angry at the mollahs and their made regime but this should have never resulted in creating a psudoreligion that can not save the souls of its members. How many Bahaiis are allowed or given the opportunity to objectively analyse or see the other views about Bab or Bahullah? The truth is they can not handle the truth because of constraints that Shugi afandi and his friends have created for them. The only reason Bahaiis are allowed to be who they are so far is because they are a great pet project for Israel and British political think tank, that they figure they have spent enough resources on it that soe day they will use them to their advantage. Islam was such a accepted infuence on Babi's and original so called Bahaiis that abdulbaha spent all his time in exile attending mosques, reading and learing quran, Bahullah was a darvish that followed Bab only because he could explain quran and Islam better to him. There is no authentic document that shows Bahullah claimed to be prophet or god. He was struggling to be a good moslem. he had to run away from the very bahaiis that we are dealing with right now and became sufi darvish.


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there are numerous tests

by Hooshang (not verified) on

there are numerous tests that show correctness of a messenger from God. Go to bahai awareness.com and you will see the ways to know if some one was a prophet or not. The issue of shiit and soni is a bit troubling to me too. However, neithr group disputed the legitimacy of mohammed or sematic god that Abraham introduced. Moslems of various casts never questioned or synthesised the fundamental believes of their religion. The divine aspect of religion was kept intact. Mohammed in his life time said and is recorded in quran to leave all the other religions alone. Infact when Jews approached him to settle a dispute for them since he was known as the Ameen, he advised them to follow their own texts that he said are well equipped to handle their problems from God.Now, what Moslems and their powerful leaders through out the history after Mohammed did should not be atributed to the Islamic teachings. This is the major difference with Bahaiis. They take information from Islamic sources and cliam it as their own and then they create religion and images of people that truely never existed. what is to their disadvantage is that their claim is only 150 years old and a curious investigator can easily get to the bottom of the matter. Bab's signed letters and confessions, his writings, Bahullahs story and his Darvish type living and writings, abdulbaha's speaches and writings are all available and evidence show that Shugi Afandi took a 90 degree turn from all of this and chose to get his revenge from Gajar dynesty and Mollahs of Iran in creating some thing of Bahaiis that is palatable to western world. I personally don't have a problem with them doing that and surviving the exile and preserving their ideology(after all ideology is an ideology and why they shouldn't be entitled to theirs). My problem is when Bahaiis on one hand claim oneness of all the religions which is an Islamic view( It is only in Quran that talks about Jews and Christians as the people of the book and brothers, it is in quran that talks about all the prophets before David, Eunece, etc). Then in real life Bahaiis attack Islam, christianity and judaism. It is like saying something and doing something else.(you don't have to believe me just talk to any young bahaii, if they are not yellow belly and scared they will tell you how much they hate Moslems based on the teachings of their parents). My second issue is Bahaiis claim they are not interested in politics but they do everything they can to participate and steer the political views around the world when it comes to Iran. Bahaais have maintained their anti Iran politics ever since the exile of Bahullah, It slowed down a little during Shah's era because they penetrated the regime and when Shah started anti Israel type of approach towards end of his reighn(as is evident from his interviews with peter Wallace) Bahaiis were the first group that pulled the rug from under the feet of Shah by being great informants of Israel. Now every time there is an opportunity for Bahaiis to weaken any government in Iran they are very happy to run and cry in the shoulders of their illegitimate father (Zionists) for human rights help. These kind of propegandas end up hurting Iran not the current Iranian government. Lets face it no body who as the saying goes have drunk sheer a halal from thier mother wants to change Iran by the hands of Zionism. Only those who have no country but their ideology superceed their nationalism. Bahaiis just like hezbollahs, Alqida, talibans have no country. They have an ideology and they are as dengerous as these other groups when it comes to Iran because they don't care for Iran as much as they care for their belives. Iran needs to free itself from a theological dictatorship and not to fall in to Bahaii facilitated take over by Zionism.


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Go to Bahai

by Seagull (not verified) on

www.bahaibookstore.com/index.cfm
to order Baha'i books from Baha'i distribution service.

What hooshang is suggesting about the source of information on Baha'i faith is like suggesting to
go to a website created by non-muslims to find information on Islam and the Prophet, not very objective information to be found.

Also the Golden Dome of the Shrine of the Bab in the heart of the World Center of the Baha'i Faith can be seen from distance and is the constant reminder of The Bab and his significance to the Baha'i Faith.
His prayers are included in Baha'i Prayers and He is mentioned and quoted in all Baha'i literature in English, Farsi and many other languages.

for more information on The Baha'i Faith from its source anyone is welcome to visit;
www.bahai.org/


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There's been lot of family feud after death of ...

by ! (not verified) on

Family Feud
Consider the great Prophet of Islam, he picked up imam Ali and told Muslims to follow Ali after him, (i am not sure if this in tradition or ha-dis but in taalimate dini in school).
Yet Omar took over after the prophet ascended into the heaven, so the concept of Shia and 12 imams was not and is not agreed on by the majority of the Islamic world who are Sonni.
That was a major family feud. From then on disagreements and feud kept multiplying until there were tens of different versions who agreed on the Prophet but not his successors. Many of the followers of the different sects slaughtered each other, in major family feuds.
To this date, out of the whole Islamic population in the world only Iran and a handful, scattered minorities in the rest of the Islamic world are Shia.
That is not a proof of anything, God forbid.

It would be helpful to see any reference from the prophet Mohammad on how he explained to the Jews or Christians that he was the Mass-ayah. And actually how many willingly agreed with him without going into numerous wars.
Obviously it was next to impossible to convince the non moslems, and then the crusaders brought things to a wide spread war under the advice of the fifth Pope.
And as you know Iran the only major Shia country now, went into war with the Prophet and the Imams, not that God forbid that Iranians were right, but they resisted the call of the Prophet. Interestingly Iranians after 300 hundred years or so of Khalifa ruling and wars accepted Islam and today they represent a major Islamic culture and view in contrast to the rest of the Islamic world.

The feeble mind of man is always inclined to question with doubt, misgivings and suspicion the truth in which others believe WITHOUT first quetioning and reconciling the truth that he himself entertains in his head and heart.
we need to be impartial even to ourselves in order to see the truth.


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Go to Bahai

by Hooshang (not verified) on

Go to Bahai awareness.com.
My friend Bahaii who is craving for answers, here they are: 1-I was a Bahaii and when a few other Bahaiis and I left the cult other close by Bahaiis came close to hanging us but fortunately we are living in west and they have learned from Bab's followers that when they hurt some one there is consequences to them much harsher. 2- you may only know Mona as a epic that you and your kinds like to use it as if there has been no other wrongful death in Iran after the current regime change. I grew up with Mona.Yes Mona was victom of being a passionate young girl just like many other young communist, moslem, jewish and christian who became subject of prosecution and ultimately death under current rulers of Iran. I am not diminishing their devotion and I am not questioning their resistance, but I am questioning how people around them are using these events. If Mona knew where other Bahaiis leading in west(Zionistic agenda) she was bright enough to avoid such a tragedy. The truth is your cult of Bahaiism only educates people on what they need to know not what they can know. Here is prime example, Bahaiis original writings regard Quran as mother of the books, Bahaullah and abdulbahah attended mosques and Islamic teachings while in exile, they never distanced themselves from Islam or promote a new religion until Shugi Afandi started the whole thing which had created enough controversy that most of Bahaiis at the time separated themselves and one of them even broke Shugi Afandi's arm in the process of disbelieve in what he is about to create under British advisers. If you ask any young Bahaii how much they have read or learned about true Islamic scholarly writings, the answer is non or minimal. 3- The issue of Bab is a headache for Bahaiis. They wish there was never a Bab with the original writings that are still left in present time. It just doesn't quite fit the story that Shugi Afandi was trying to fabricate. He under British advisers who had christian bachground was trying to create a john the babtist from Bab and Jesus from Bahaullah. But documents left from Bab and his followers doesnot quite fit the picture, so best thing is downplay Bab and hope it will go away. Bahullah was a Babi follower, he himself tried to revive Bab's Bayan in his book of Agdas, he never claimed to be a prophet never mind God as claimed by some Bahaiis and Bab finally told the truth that he was not Mahdi, he did not have connection with mahdi despite his original claims and he sufficed to say I am a passage way to mahdi (which is a statement that almost every religious scholar can make.) 4- Cult of Bahaii is doomed with one thing and that is there is no substance behind their claim. After all human in 21 century has access to all the writings and literature that is available in every religion. Bahaiis never put their writings on the bookshelves. Has any body has seen book of agdas, bayan, next to bible and quran in barnes and Noble? (there is a reason for that, Bahaiis are always in defensive, they like to show and reveal what is appropriate and not create any controversy about their religion. Besides once published they won't be able to modify or alter as they do it now. The western english translations do not have many of the persian and arabic writings explained by bahaiis as westeners are not ready for it yet.


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INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF TRUTH

by Mona 19 (not verified) on

I believe you are all the same person( just using different user names), You ask these kind of questions because you are not after the truth.

But for the open minded people please go and read for yourself.

God has given man the eye of investigation by which he may see and recognize truth. He has endowed man with ears that he may hear the message of reality and conferred upon him the gift of reason by which he may discover things for himself. This is his endowment and equipment for the investigation of reality. Man is not intended to see through the eyes of another, hear through another's ears nor comprehend with another's brain. Each human creature has individual endowment, power and responsibility in the creative plan of God.

www.bahaullah.com

Regard,
Mona


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RE: Anon... S

by LostIdentity (not verified) on

There's been lot of family feud after death of Bahaullah among his wife and children on who will inherit thr throne.......Yes, Bab sarted the whole process of Al Mahdi and his follower claimed he's the gateway "Bab". But Bahaii administration now totally denies the idea of Bab being Al Mahdi.


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1) the answer is no 2) no,

by Seagull (not verified) on

1) the answer is no
2) no, Bab was a sayyeed and a shia like Jesus was a Jew
3)no

you also need to respect all people.
about your suggestion, lets keep it a suggestion.


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The real threat is the ideology that follows

by Seagull (not verified) on

"One amongst His Teachings is this, that love and good faith must so dominate the human heart that men will regard the stranger as a familiar friend, the malefactor as one of their own, the alien even as a loved one, the enemy as a companion dear and close.

(Abdu'l-Baha, Selections from the Writings of Abdu'l-Baha, p. 84)

hooshang points out the fact that Bahai ideals is the serious threat and indeed it is. how can he even try to follow the above quotation!
it is the very Bahai principles that is contrary to their wishes; unity of mankind,
equality of man and woman, love for your fellow human being, self investigation of truth, elimination of prejudice, compatibility of science and religion and on..

"This Book at once abrogated the laws and ceremonials enjoined by the Qur'án regarding prayer, fasting, marriage, divorce and inheritance, and upheld, in its integrity, the belief in the prophetic mission of Muhammad, even as the Prophet of Islam before Him had annulled the ordinances of the Gospel and yet recognized the Divine origin of the Faith of Jesus Christ.
(Shoghi Effendi, God Passes By, p. 25)

hooshang, the only threat to any religion is its follower, and that is not a mystery.

Bahais do not hang or execute anyone for leaving the faith, others do!!
if hooshang was a Bahai, he is here freely and in safety giving us his version of reality.
in fact he is after other people because they want to spread Gods Love, unity and universal brotherhood and he thinks he is doing the same though in a very peculiar, negative way.

Bahai faith is as much of a threat to Islam as Islam once was to Christianity. is it not natural then to fear that what one holds as absolute may not actually be final. that is where people go wrong, not God, and thus they feel threatened and see the need to assert that Primacy by whatever means.
that is where ones reason and ideology begins to degrade, and deteriorate.

It is Gods will and it shall be done.
no earthly power can resist it, no matter how hard they try or what methods they use.
Hooshang you are an instrument for the advancement of the Divine Will, however ironic it may seem.
good will to man


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to anonymous s and andullah

by Tahirih (not verified) on

I know your intentions of asking question is not pure but for the benefit of the fair minded readers you can go to www.bahai.org to find the answer to all the questions posed by these hojatiyeh members (as you all know Ahmadinejad is a member of the same group!).
by the way you BIG people did not answer me ! about killing of inocent teenagers,like Mona Mahmodnejad,you are really brave to kidnap and kill inocent girls at night ?????your parents must be proud of you brave man! why did n't you anwser me you can only operate at night!humanity and history will judge you harshly,Hazrate Rasole Akram is lamenting to have followers like you that kill in the name of God.


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I have questions on Bahaism

by Anonymou s (not verified) on

I have questions on Bahaism and would appreciate answers. 1) is it a religious pre-requisite to make a convert (at least one) to Bahaism in order for a Bahai to be able to go to heaven? 2) Wasn't the holy man of Bahaism a Shia muslim priest who claimed he has access to the 12th Imam (Imam Zaman) to communicate his followers personal requests to Imam Zaman, and for years used this for his own sake and interests? 3) And didn't he years later change his position and claimed that he himself is the 12th Imam (Imam Zaman)? I respect all religions and their decent followers, but for those who go way overboard irrespective of their religions, I suggest they keep their advertising sermons inside their churches.


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As a by stander who usually

by Andullah (not verified) on

As a by stander who usually only reads these comments, i think Hooshang has made great points and it is kind of validated by the reaction that I see from Bahaiis. He mentioned that Bahaiis like to character assissinate and that is what you guys are doing now. It makes me agree with Hooshang that Bahaiis are a cult because cults are usually narcissistic and if someone breaks away from them they deny and fiercely reject the thought of such a thing happening. What in the world ever allow any organization or religious group to think that they are absoulutely right. (Only Fundamentalist so Hooshang is not far from truth when he groups Bahaiis and Hezbollah in the same rank, both are fundamentalist because they feel infalable). Fundamentalists are the threat of modernity and the new age and peace and Bahaiis have always striced me as very fundamentalist in their view. Their kindness and flexibality is only if one goes along with their set Cult agenda and identity. Islam can save any one including those who hate it because of the politics of current Iranian regime. Look at religion with open heart and with God in mind not with what historically governments and politicians did under the name of religion.


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Hooshang you are full of hate,and you have never been a bahai!

by Tahirih (not verified) on

I can smell Hojatiyeh group's foul smell from here.You have never been a bahai,because if you were you would have known that we do not run when it gets rough.You were never a bahai because you would have known Mona Mahmodnejad and 9 of her friends that where hanged by IRI in 1983,for being bahai's only and they preferd dying at tender ages (i.e 17 years),rather than recanting their faith.I know your type you are full of hate and ignorance,and the only thing that can save your soul is by grace of God because his grace showers on garbage and flowers at the same time.
I usually do not resort to replying like this,but it bothers me when you vampires of humanity lie and say you were a bahai.Just come out straight and say I hate you all bahais and other minorities but do not lie.Be a man of integrity and say the truth rather than twisting the truth.I know your kind because I used to be a muslim and I am proudly a bahai now!


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To : Mr.Hooshang

by Mona (not verified) on

Dear Mr.Hooshang
Regarding your commend about"""I did turn my heart to the God of Baha'i and all I saw was pure politics""""

First:
Baha'is take their civic responsibilities seriously and uphold the authority of established governments through loyalty and obedience to the laws of their country. While participating in elections for their government, they abstain from partisanship, and so do not join political parties or factions. Baha'is may serve their government in administrative posts but do not accept political appointments or run for elected office. Such service reflects the practice within the Baha'i community, which holds elections for its administrative councils that are entirely without nominations or campaigning.

Second:
Baha’is believe that there is one God, that all humanity is one family, and that there is a fundamental unity underlying religion. They recognize that the coming of Baha'ullah has opened the age for the establishment of world peace, when, as anticipated in the sacred scriptures of the past, all humanity will achieve its spiritual and social maturity, and live as one united family in a just, global society.God is the ultimate Reality, Creator of the universe, Whose nature is unknowable and inaccessible to humankind. Such designations as God, Allah, Yahweh, Brahma all refer to the One Divine Being. We learn about God through His Messengers, Who teach and guide humanity.

Regard,
Mona


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The Bahá'í Faith in Israel

by MONA (not verified) on

The Bahá'í Faith's relationship with the land of Israel was formed during the time when Bahá'u'lláh,(Prophet Of Baha'i' faith) after a series of successive banishments from His native Persia, was exiled, with members of His family and a small band of His followers, to the Holy Land, which was then part of the Ottoman Empire, to the Turkish penal colony of Acre in 1868.
Bahá'ís resident in Israel are religious volunteers from all over the world who serve for specified periods at the Bahá'í World Centre and are engaged solely in the care of the Bahá'í Holy Places and the internal administration of the Bahá'í world community.


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Hooshange Ahmagh, Anything

by Gilani (not verified) on

Hooshange Ahmagh,

Anything that does not conform to the crappy religion of Islamic Iran is considered a secret agenda for you and your ilk.

Khak bar sara kharet.


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Speaking of the Bahaii

by Hooshang (not verified) on

Speaking of the Bahaii agenda is not a paranoria. It is a knowledge that I have gathered all my life. In fact their threat is not great at the moment. Bahaiis number at 5 million by thier own inflated statistics. Majority of these members are older generation, children, social members (those who will run if sh.. hits the fan) and underprivilaged populations of really poor countries in the world who have their own socioeconomical problems (Bahaiis also copied christians in sending out missionaries to various parts of the world, recently concentrating on China, Hispanics and Africans). The real threat is the ideology that follows the foot steps of Zionism. Bahaiis have learned over the 150 years to penetrate quietly with a lot of pretention and hatered in their hearts towards Moslems. But on the surface they are different people. In reality they are not super human despite their claim of peace and love, they still have the same human emotions as anger and despaire that manifests itself as quiet hatered of Moslems in particular. In fact they speak of hundreds of negatives about everybody in their private and to their children, then in their classes they also equip them with empty slogans of peace, tolerance etc. Consequence of these behaviors have created a cult that can not live out side their boxes and they strictly adhere to the agenda set force for them by their house of justice residing in Israel. We are obligated to educate our children not to fall in these traps like many Bhaiis themselves that feel trapped in the cult. Most Bahaiis particularly those in Iran are beginning to see the course of their destiny as the servants of Zionist agenda and they have begun to distance themselves from western Bahaiis. But just like any other cult members have lost their head eventhough their hearts might not want to be where they are now.


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Good to hear from you too.

by LostIdentity (not verified) on

Good to hear from you too. You will be surprised how often I can agree with what a Bahaii may say on philosophical terms. We can find all that in the sayings of our noble persian poets, philosophers and scientists.
The heart is only for "creator" and one should not get it involved with "the created". In this way, "the created" will get the benefit of a good heart. Otherwise, it become a game of "hipocracy".

I still think that in the realm of politics and society (when there's no direct heart-to-heart connection) heart looses it's validity as a means of trust. One can only show the good deed in practice; Then, people can find a way to the heart of the man in action. People nowadays have lost their innocence and they look for some substantial and tangible means to validate someone. There's been just too many psuedo represantatives of God and for sure there will be more to come.
peace to all humanity;


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I believe in God

by ensan (not verified) on

I believe in God, I believe in democracy, and I believe in human decency and morality.
I am NOT advocating ANY religion here!
I just try to be what I want to be, in my heart, in my deeds and actions and in what I say!
That's all!


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Dear Bahaii: Just one item I

by be practical (not verified) on

I think you are wrong hooshang.
dont be so obsessed with politics, there is no rational way anymore to understand what these people are saying, who knows what they got in their heart. trying to hard to read in between the lines, to tell the future of the world with fear in the heart and delusion in the mind, is just wishful or paranoid speculation and depending on how paranoid one is the damage to ones intelect and humanity would be to great to assess. and don't forget the God factor here. he will let people do what they want all the while that he is warming up the hell fire then He will stop the astray souls once the object is met. He also tolerates governments, politics, materialistic people, deceptive souls and sick souls for a while but eventually things will come to a decisive conclusion. how much more rotten can a rotten thing get before it is annihilated with the very maggots it harbors. you see it is written you must read not speculate.
take care


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Dear Bahaii: Just one item I

by Hooshang (not verified) on

Dear Bahaii: Just one item I left out in my last comment. If those of you out there thinking that it won't be so bad to be anexed state to Israil under Bahaii guidance, just read the fetured article "every place but Israel please" that is currently shown under the Featured Blogs on Iranian.com. See what happened to Cephardic Jews and that is your destiny. All you have to do my friends don't believe my words just make a good friend with an Iranian Jew who has family in Israil and once you win their friendship they will tell you all about Israil and their relationship to Iranian Jews, Bahaai's and future agendas for Iran. It is not any better tan what Hezbollah brought to us.


Rosie T.

Dear Ali,

by Rosie T. on

There are no requirements for publishing a BLOG on this website.  My question would be what differentiates this article from a BLOG? And then, a reiteration of your question: what are the requirements (meaning standards) for publication of an article? The FAQ's on the website delineate between an article and a blog in terms of the amount of formal preparation involved.

Suggest you direct your inquiry to JJ at the contact on the homepage and address your concerns directly to him. First of all, he most probably won't see your inquiry here as he can't possibly (and should't and doesn't) monitor all threads. Second of all, why invite the readers to enter into useless sepculation, which is ultimately a veiled form of gossip?  Ask him directly to be accountable for articulating his policy and decisions. 


Other interested readers should do the same.

I hope he answers you.
Best regards.


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