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Fair jan ...

Fair jan,

I agree with you. Let’s not fool ourselves.

There is no BUT in this posting of mine. I just want to add and point out a few things.
For one, the assembly line you talk about does not count as an industrial base. And industrial base is general engineering and knowhow a technological trend across many disciplines and the land, its universities etc. It encompasses workshops and cottage industry. One or two imported assembly line is not enough to carry a nation to homegrown industry. You know … that I am sure you do , as you seem to have good understanding about the issue at hand and I gladly hand it to you that you have a very good insight in what is going on in Iran.

So again, the Bell assembly line was a start. But after the revolution somebody had to take a step. Efforts had to be made, money to be poured in, education be matched and so on and so on.

Please DO NOTE that I am not belittling what was imported during shah’s era. I am just talking about Iran TODAY and what is coming out of there and how it serves the nation’s interest. I don’t give a rat’s ass about the political system and establishment in the past, present or the future for that matter. Iran like many other countries are full of vatanforoosh and opportunist who would sell their own mother to get ahead. History has proved that. In lieu of this Ka ka however, one thing remains. That for some reason (most probably for the survival of the regime) the military industry had to be invested in. It is making progress. Enough progress? I am not going to judge that as I do not have the expertise.
Now as far as china moving away from nuts and bolts.
They can AFFORD it. They can afford it as if they sign a contract with anyone, no one is gonna screw with them. Buddy, 1.3 billion souls are to not fuck around with … all the trillions in their reserve, their huge military and being a nuclear power etc. so…they can feel safe buying stuff and outsource.

Iran can’t. Today the Russians help Iran and sell second rate weaponry system and if Iranians do enough ‘dastmal dasti konan’, maybe they even upgrade the stuff they sold them.
In the past, when we had almost everything from the US, Iranians saw what happened when they needed the arms during the war. That is why nuts and bolts in Iran are imperative.

Lies and propaganda is all part of the defensive strategy and psychological warfare. Do we as Iranians have to believe in them? Of course not … but let others believe them. As long as they are impressed by a Shahb missile that has no accuracy and can be detected and destroyed before its launch, then we can feel a bit safer, till the day comes that those bragging actually become reality.
I am sure by now you know that I have no love for the past or the present regime. They are all the same. A true patriot has not been in power in Iran for I don’t know how long. I am not cynical nor have I given up hope. But again and again and again (zaboonam moo darovord) let’s do EVERYTHING we can to ensure that Iran is not attacked for now. Even if it is to shut up and not call in the bluffs. And in the mean time encourage and support every single little step that is made.
Brother we are all in this together. I don’t want to be in the shoes of an Iraqi nor do you.

Now I have recovered from my cold and going to start my work again … so sorry of I do not respond to you no more as I have no more time.

It has been an interesting debate… I have enjoyed it.
Kind regards,
Cameron

PS. drop me a line if you like to talk about these stuff ... do a google search and you will find me.

Yes, let us recognize the efforts

of all our Iranian compatriots who contributed to increase in knowledge and expertise in Iran, no matter what their beliefs/lifestyles/generation/government/era.

But not at the cost of the truth.

If the government of Iran makes a false claim, let's not just accept it to feel good. A lie is a lie.

And I disagree that an assembly line of choppers does not count for industrial expertise, especially when very few countries in the world (including other superpowers) have access to that assembly line. Especially when that line imported over 30 years ago, is the very facility that is used today to take as you say "baby steps". Iran can today do major overhaul and refurbishing/modification of these helicopters thanks to that line, and more importantly, thanks to the expertise and brainpower which came with that line.

The notion that building nuts and bolts from scratch is a better path toward building an industrial base is outdated. China did that until the 70's, and rightfully abandoned it. They used to build all the components of their aircraft, nuts, bolts, structures, etc. in the same facility, and of course they built the worst aircraft in the world. Look at them today- and by the way- they started by "importing" the very same types of assembly lines that you say "don't count". Just look at them today. Your model (and the former Chinese model) of building your industrial base from scratch indigenously applies well to the 19th century, not the 21st century.

So feel good about ourselves and our accomplishments despite all the problems, but let us not fool ourselves either.

-FAIR

To TBT,

Aziz jan, I understand your point. You hit the nail in the sense that in a world where bullying, greed, materialism, quest for power has become the language of humanity – all over the world – the haves will try their best to keep the haves not down and any move for independence, and growth of strength will be curbed. Why would the bully on the block want to see another bully to emerge?

Iran under Shah became a ‘noche’. As a noche, Iran was given the toys to be used for the master. That is why when the military advisors left Iran, the airforce was in such a bad shape and stopped operating after a few years.

As you point out back then Iran was called the Gendarme of ME. Fifth largest army in the world. There were military estimates that “Garde Javidan’ alone would be able to hold back a potential soviet invasion from north for about six months. And now, again, from the French Foreign Minister Kouchner to many others admit that Iran is regional powerhouse.

Iran now is in its infancy in terms of industrial infrastructure and military R&D and achievement. That is why you see so much reverse engineering. This per se means that Iran is vulnerable, as the industry, the knowhow, technical expertise, production process and the infrastructure is new, shaky and juvenile. So yes … you are right … history CAN repeat itself. Iran can be pushed back again.

There is one different though between then and now.

Where as during Shah’s time all the industry was being literally imported (and no … an assembly line of choppers don’t count as an industrial base), always being at the mercy of the producing country for ongoing support, upgrade and parts, today in Iran, these stuff are being produced. From bolts and nuts to iron casting, design, testing, trouble shooting etc. They are not producing no F-22 … no… nor are they building space rockets Well... actually they do). But they are taking baby steps.
And the creation of this base of industrial infrastructure is the very first step of independence.
Now… who are doing all these things?
They my friend, are young brilliant kids in Iran, men and women, engineers and researchers and they work there, under unbearable stress, and during their weekends they have no club to go to, and they risk ‘Shallagh’ if caught with their lovers, and imprisoned if expressing any doubt about the regime. But they stay there. They build things. They train all the time and are on the borders. In summer heat of 50 cel. They patrol shark filled waters of Persian Gulf, under stress day in day out. They risk their lives flying a newly reversed engineered jet, testflying it. They train in Kamikaze techniques in the case confronting a far superior navy of the US. Do you have any idea what it means to willingly train for a mission that you KNOW you never come back from? For what? For khamenei? I think not. No they do it for Iran.

And so, anyone who wants to belittle this, needs to think twice, as it is nothing more than a slap in the face to the very people who at least are trying to keep Iran in one piece. Especially if living abroad (like myself) enjoying everything and all amenities that the majority of those guys back home cannot even imagine.

The true heroes of our land never been nor are kings or leaders … but those unknown people who build and protected Iranzamin. That young soldier who knowing about his weapons being inferior to his enemy’s and still faced the enemy, that pilot (like your own father) who flew all the way to Baghdad, and that officer knowing chemical agents being used, still stayed with his soldiers and still fought the enemy.

Now if others again want to point out that the hardware is outdated, politicize the whole discussion, come with idiotic comments that within 72 hours Iran will vanish if US attacked or that with oil prices at 40 dollars they can even buy taraghe, and all these nonsense that they pull out of their you know what … well then let them.

All I tried to do here, was to point out ONE thing. Folks, it is our country, it is our people and anything that is built in Iran by Iranians will stay there. Let’s stop belittling Iran’s achievement.

Let us recognize the efforts made in Iran by other hamvatan, let’s encourage them, and god forbid … if we can ever ever get over ourselves, and realize that we are NOT the center of the universe (chocking … ha?), and if our brain finds a way … let’s help them. And if none of these….at least … let’s then just shut the hell up and say nothing.

British Green hat commandos work in Iranian arm forces

Can any body let me why there are British Green Hat Commando and Pakistani Commando with their uniforms in this video I thought this was about Iranian arm forces i can understand they have to buy their hardware from some where(west countries) but are they buying their soldiers from them too. It doesn't matter how fast you want to ran this video you can't full people who going to war with iran they can see how fake this is

What does this clip say?

I am not sure what to conclude from this clip at all. It shows nothing that would deter US/Isreali aggression, and it is just a bunch of footage accumulated over several years. And the newest technology in there is 30 years old, so is it supposed to impress anybody?

Furthermore, this has nothing to do with one type of Iranian or another. When you ridicule those who live in LA it is just as bad as anyone ridiculing those who hunted tanks saying Ya Hussein and read namaz, etc. We are all Iranians, and that is that.

This has everything to do with truth. Believe me, those in charge of planning any operation against Iran know very well how seriously to take claims and films like these produced for show. You are I giving or not giving credit for the "achievements" will not change anything.

If anyting, if I am to conclude any real achievements from a clip like this, it is that under the Shah, there was a real technology transfer into Iran, and it was not pure importation and dependence on the US. The mere fact that this stuff still flies after 30-40 years means 2 things: 1)the know how as well as the hardware was transferred to Iran, and 2) the transfer was so successful that despite a complete purge of so much of the military and a war and embargo, etc., those who survived all that were able not only to keep the stuff running, but also teach a new generation to continue.

And for those of you who think anything in this clip here in 2008 is impressive enough to even deter regional states like the UAE, I have news for you. Even the UAE or Saudi Arabia isn't afraid of this stuff. The GCC countries could cream Iran in any air and sea confrontation today, heck the Saudis shot down 2 Iranian fighters 24 years ago over the PERSIAN GULF,  and Iran did NOTHING. And Iran's air force gap with Saudi was much less back then. Painful isn't it?

Yes, Iran is under threat today, and it is no coincidence. Its government WANTS to be under threat, just as they WANTED Iran Iraq war to continue to and have crisis after crisis to justify their existence and failures. The best way to remove the threat is to change our government and their reckless foreign policy. The US did it, it is our turn now.

-FAIR

RE: TBT

Why do you call General Rabi'ee a traitor? Any justifiable reason?

How history repeats itself

Cameron khan, I found your post quite informative and honest. But was it truthful? I don't know; in fact I have long given up asserting the "Truth" in Iran-related discussions. It all depends where you're coming from. As a son of an IRAF officer, I still remember the pride in my father's eyes and voice as he would recount the multitude of f-5 Tigers, f-4 Phantoms, and the cream of the crop F14 Tomcats. But Ironically, the Royal Air Force was the first to implode (I think). His royal highness was the first one to "sell the farm" and haul ass, followed by the 'Brave' Homafaraan, to the top traitor Rabi'ee. Like now, Iran was a force to be reckoned with, but then, poof, just like that it all fell apart.

Reply to AnonymousIAM

I never claimed that all were indoctorined in Javid shah. I was making a point and that was that with all the fuss when it really came to it, no one was there. Where was the wealth of us all, when we took off from Iran during the war to buy arms, use our connection to lobby for a halt of chemical weapons being used on Iran, saving our kids? The very ‘Noor cheshmiha’ hide in various parts of the world and held to what they could save for themselves and their kids. As far as Shah … may he rest in peace for putting Mossadeq under house arrest, showing no common sense in handling the hard line religious groups, having his so called white revolution, making sure that Iranian defense would always be dependent on others, first helping the Israelis and then publicly in an interview in French TV accusing Jews for manipulating the political system and the media in the US … buying Iran enemies by showing off … just as a neuvo riche does! I remember well when as a kid I used to hear about internal memos in ‘Hezbe Rastakhiz’ at home and now understand their true meanings. Shah was turning Iran into UAE. A soulless stepping stone, chained slave and proxy puppet land of the Anglo Saxan ambition for global dominance.
Sure did he do much good … I do not deny that. Not all was bad. After all he was the FALCON of Opec. After all it was because of him Opec got wind under its wings and oil price went from 4 dollars to 12 and then 24.
But come on … don’t tell me he was a patriot. Leadership in its essence is about servitude, selfless, self sacrificing acts that benefits the ones the leader is in charge of. And in that category Shah does not fall into. Now if you or others based on your assified and self-declared independent conclusion arrive to that Shah was a visionary patriot …well then buddy go back to your books … and if not into reading, well just search for the info. on the internet and if not having time for that either … errr… well … then I guess you have a right to have an opinion too, as opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all smell!

To your second point … so? Did I ever generalize? I don’t think so.
To your third point … did I not mention that? The IIAF pilots, Hava Nirooz, Kolah sabzaha. The navy etc.?

To your forth point … No, I am sure you don’t want to see Iran destroyed or invaded either. But anyone who prevents a spirit of resistance, a projection of power or spoils the bluff in a game facilitates an attack. Just as the Iraqi exiles prior to the war sucked the Bush administration’s dick hard telling them that the US forces would be welcomed as liberators. We go ahead and admit that we are weak, the enemy will feel embolden

Your fifth … please try to understand, my assertion has nothing to do with IRI, but the security of Iran … I did not and never done and never will defend or say anything good about IRI. For sure, much of what they do in terms of defense is for their own survival. Still, it prevents Iran to be destroyed … well … so far anyway.

Your sixth … that is to be discussed further. I agree that Shah was removed. I agree that he became disobedient. I also Agree, that Khomeini was put in Iran, but somewhere along the line things went wrong. CIA bet on a wrong horse. The IRI went its own way. I guess the Carter Admin, and Kissinger should have invested on MOK instead to get what they really had planned.

And now your final point.

First of all, some manners in expressing yourself would not harm, even though you hide behind a pseudo name. but no worries, no kid over here. Now, the very geopolitical game your mention is far more complex and older than you think. It goes back over hundred years, has aspects so multifaceted that ‘sare adam soot mikeshe’. From eugenics, to future technology and everlasting life, special groups, religious ideology rooted in occultism etc. Then you must understand, that no matter how carefully a strategy is forged and a plan is made, there are always anomalies and things can go wrong. No one foresaw the collapse of the Nazi’s in 40-41. At the time it seemed that the game was over.
Then if by chance and as a side effect every single threat to IRI as you say (Iraq, Taliban in Afghanistan) were removed, be sure that it was an inevitable price it had to be paid. Saddam was not removed for IRI’s sake. Saddam was removed cuz he felt betrayed and tried to flip the bird to his former allies. One of his No No moves was to move away from petrodollars. The list goes on and on. Both the Taliban and Saddam were supported during entire 80s. As the matter of fact the very two first nations recognizing the Taliban as a legitimate state were…..BINGO…. US and Saudi Arabia!

So again … mistake … what? Are you Daee Jan Napoleon thinking that the ENGILISI ha are almighty and everything they do is brilliant?

We have seen the US geopolitical success in SE Asia, C. America, Africa, S. America … one fuck up after the other.
Have a good think about it … and have a great weekend.

reminds me of

propoganda films at time of saddam and how Iraq has the fourth largest army in the world and so on and then all collapsed in matter of days with U.S invation.

bunch of 1970's equipments and parades are useless against surgical strike from U.S or even Russia and bigger powers. on the other hand this kind of shit may be deterent for UAE, and some tiny countries here and there.

Dear Live from Tehran

To Live from Tehran,
None of your statements are to be argued with on my behalf. We all know about the plagues descended upon our people and ourselves living in forced or self imposed exile. There is virtually no aspect of human rights that is not being breached in Iran. I have seen sad and horrifying scenarios in Dubai, when impoverished women were not only prostituting themselves but were waiting for their daughters to reach the age of 14 to be sold to a former and new rich Bedouin for her virginity. This is the fate of the ‘shir zanan’ Iran … I am also aware that the Iraq and Iran was extended beyond -82 as a measure to ensure the survival of the regime. I am not going to discuss or point out that the violation of human rights in Iran is nothing unique in the world and that there are other countries with far more shameful track records than IRI.
My position is clear (at least I hope it is) that I care not for IRI nor the Pahalavi or any other opportunist group who reigned over our land, people and culture or hopes to do. They all come and go as the Macedonians/Greeks, Arabs, Mongols and the Turks.
Regardless of what we feel about the current system, its injustice and oppression imposed upon a peace loving and talented people, there is one fact that no one can deny. Iran is UNDER THREAT. Is it provoked? Is it a scheme to play on nationalistic sentiments and divert people’s attention from internal problems and disasters? It may be … however the very same hungry kids you see could be orphan kids like in Iraq, the very same honorable daughters and women of Iran you see prostituting in Dubai, selling their bodies and soul to a camel jockey could have been raped and killed just as in Iraq.
I am NOT defending IRI. Never done and never will. I am talking about Iran. I am talking about Iran being the next target of a geopolitical game started already in the 1800. I am talking about a political occultism that now dares to manifest its agenda overtly and Iran and our people being part of it.
I don’t care if IRI are producing all these retard weapons- as you call them - to ensure their own survival or not. The fact remains that as long as there is a high cost to pay in attacking Iran, Iran will be safe from outside abuse.
Let us first make sure that the threat from outside is nullified and then deal with the enemy within.
Remember, if Iran is torn apart by foreign forces, there will be nothing left to fix.
Iran is NOT the center of the geopolitical game … but only part of it that could easily and arbitrarily be sacrificed. The only thing that can prevent this nightmare scenario is a spirit of resistance. And whether it is under a flag of “shir o Khorshid’ or an ancient Sikh symbol … at this point, under such existential threat is of no consequence.
Let us first be sure that the house is standing firm and then begin to clean it.

And so, my hamvatan, I cheer for every single defensive measure taken and announcement made, as I know the price of attacking Iran will rise – propaganda or not, matters not.

Mr. Cameron Batmanghlich or

Mr. Cameron Batmanghlich or is it Kamran? This is among your other comments regarding Irans military capabilities. Where do you yourself reside? In any case, get this through your thick brain, USA will, in an all out war destroy Iran without even using nukes. Get it! They are able to knock out Irans economy, industry, infrastructure and military (sepah, regular army and Basij) within 72 hours! And no, I am not a traitor nor do I wish anyone to invade my motherland! Okay! But, please apply some reasoning to your way of thinking! It is childish! A generation perished through 1980's, and these M#"#"#" F"#"# will not hesitate to sacrifice another generation in a new war. Iran should be ruled by Saddam H. and not Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi.

@Cameron Batmanghlich

One has to agree with your assessment of the LA Iranian "cultural" sense, but you make a few very self serving comments, which need to be corrected:

1 - Not all Iranians who loathe the IRI were "indoctrinated" to chant Javid Shah. Quite a lot of us have independently come to the conclusion that the late Shah of Iran was a Visionary Patriot who was both ahead of his time and in the wrong place (i.e Iran ..) May God forgive him and may he rest in peace.

2 - Many people left Iran after the "revolution" given the example provided by the "revolutionaries" -- you know, those kids indoctrinated to worship Mao or Stalin or "Saintly" Khomeini -- in the summary justice and lawless exercise of violent force to execute Iranians. Others, mostly from the new technocratic "middle class", left Iran since the hateful oghdeh of the ill educated and the illiterate was no longer limited to voiced opinion but rather had morphed to settling their existential account at (at times) mortal cost to their perceived "engineer" oppressors.

3 - Many royalists did in fact stay, many from the military, and of course, they died. (Not in the front. Rather by the firing squads of "revolutionary" "Iranians" after God knows what sort of barbaric treatment.)

4 - No one wants to see foreign troops in Iran.

5 - The objection is not so much to making Namaaz. Its rather to the hypocrisy of doing so in a demonstrative manner in service of an ideological regime and then behind the scenes engaging in acts that would make most LA Iranians blush.

6 - Finally, the fundamental objection is to the superficial ploy of an Iran "standing up" to great power ambitions, where in reality IRI, from conception to date, has served nothing but great power goals. (Which is why Shah had to "go" ..)

7 - You must be an ass to think IRI propaganda is keeping great powers from dismembering Iran, when obviously great powers have done all in their power to establish an ideological Iran as a regional power in a manner suitable to their geopolitical calculations. (That is, you must be an ass if you think the systemic knocking down of regimes and ideologies hostile to IRI by great powers has been a "mistake" on the part of these super power planners.)

most are old hardware just good enough to scare the arab states

neither Israel or US are a bit concerned about Iranian air force of navy as both are equipmed with old hardware both slow and awfully limited. But I guess those are good enough to tell UAE and Arab states to back off when they get "poroo"

as far as US and Israel, the only thing that could potentially be a concern to them is Iran's missiles and the anti missiles which are fairly modern and capable.

To: camron Batmanghlich

unfortunately, we see many young iranian suffering from unemployment, drugs, prostitution, depression, crimes, hopelessness, lost identity, insecurity, ETC LIST GOES ON AND ON,,but instead we're building a stone age technology. For what price? AND Surpassingly i see people in this site like CAMERON BATMANGHLICH defending it..Mr: Batmanghlich how can you consciously except that million of iranian babies go to sleep hungry,AND IRANIAN youth suffering from malnutrition, but you are defending our retard military capability? what is definition of being iranian? who you're defending? the Piece of metal or human suffering? i'm not against of advancing in our military, science, medicine but FOR WHAT PRICE?

film editing rule #1: "do not cut 9 minutes of footage with a

fast paced music, it gets you dizzy. Rule#2: if your footage is longer than 1 minute then have an introduction, exposition and a resolution.

With oil around $40 a barrel

With oil around $40 a barrel Iran can't even afford taragheh for next char-shanbeh-souri.

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بقول ِ معروف
شكم ِ گشنه و گوز ِفندوقى

It gave me...a headache....What a waste...

I think first we must ask who has begann? Since years some revoling disgusting and nasty creatures are standing arround the Islamic Republic of Iran barking and grunting and repeating their intimidations and make threatening remarks over that country. They produce and sell modern wartoys to Iran`s naighbores and show off with sanktions against honorable Iranian Nation. Under these circumstances: Puting Iran`s defence power at the same level with assault weapons of yankees is a apparent sign of not being neutral. However if "IRANIAN" were a real neutral site it would not have survived solang. Many many years ago Iranians said: We do not seek a war, BUT if somebody should breake the red line we would smash his mouth. This fact is not changed yet and has not lost its content. Today mean Iranians: We do not need any atomic bombs, we are ourselves some. Greeting

I wish they had these

I wish they had these "wasteful toys", "WWII f-4's and f-5's!!" before Saddam invaded and raped the country. These "wastes" are good enough to deter another koon-nashoor arab (or non-arab) neighbor from invading Iran again. It has apparently been good enough to make Israelis and Americans think twice. Otherwise, Iran would have been like Iraq and Afghanistan by now.

moment agha moment

صدام هم از این گوخوریا زیاد میکرد  

San Francisco Yadet Nareh

Super-Power(s) of distraction!

Fighter planes.. Rockets, Nuclear Plants.. but socially, politically, financially bancrupt, that is how super-powers are these days, so to be fair, Iran also is a super-power!

I agree with JJ ... what a waste...

Dear Bagheri,

They may be Iranians but not the right kind. They don’t Salsa, and they don’t ‘Gher’ to pointless organized noise produced in L.A. shoved down our ears as music, nor do they come from an elitist background where they were indoctorined to chant Javid Shah, and Korosh bekhab ke ma bidarim and then, when the shit hit the fan, they escaped Iran and left a bunch of women and kids fight the Iraqi’s (respect and honor to all the imprisoned pilots by the Mullah’s at the beginning of the so called revolution who filled a petition and were let out to fly and fight and many gave their lives, so many of the elite soldiers – Kolah Sabzha, and Hava nirooz … and many other vatan parast). Furthermore, they do not produce movies like Top Gun, wear Rayban glasses, act like Rambo … their commanders do not puff on Cohibas, and there is no Holloywood to make them heroes. No no … they are (they are indoctorined in Ya Hussein … ya emam and say Allah o Akbar, and when rushing to hunt Iraqi’s T-72s with a RPG they shout ‘Ya Hussein’, wearing trainers!
So … why should we all who live abroad give them any credit? Especially when they project the sort of power that many of the ex-military turned businessmen/activist/freedom fighter think as their alienating right to have been in their place.
Then it doesn’t matter if they ‘Koone khodeshoono pareh mikonan’ and have a watchful eye on Iranian borders 24/7 with their so called crude weapons and aircrafts from the ‘Ice age’! It doesn’t matter that they show balls of steel when in a small speed boat actually challenge a US warship, WARNING them to get the fuck out of Iranian waters, or take British sailors (twice), parade them on the TV showing them crying. It doesn’t matter that they have created such strong loyal forces in the region (such as Hizbullah) who now function as a pawn in the chess board of the psychological warfare between Iran and Israel/US. A force that the invincible Israeli Army did not dare to push into S. Lebanon and their Markova tanks were easy prey for ….err…. Iranian made antitank weapons handed to Hizbullah, but instead bombed the shit out of the whole civilian infrastructure from thousands of feet above. And It doesn’t matter that many students in Amir Ashraf Uni. refuse to leave Iran despite lucrative bursaries and studentships offered by other universities in the US and Europe in their effort of large scale brain drain, but rather stay in that hellish environment and engage in R&D, reverse engineering military hardware and reproduce aircrafts from the 1965 World war (as one of the comments reads here). It doesn’t matter that their seemingly futile effort and what everyone calls a propaganda has so far made an assault on Iran not very feasible, and kept an invasion/ attack away. All this does not matter, because they are not like us. They are not chic, they engage in Namaz o roozeh, and don’t rap but chant Allah o akbar … and oh my god I almost forgot ... they do not wear tight jeans and no tie!

But no worries … we have plenty of people who can set this straight. We have so called scholars who give seminars at King’s College in London about Iranian industrial development and provoke a laughter among foreigners by mocking anything that Iran does … painting Iranians as incompetent idiots living in the delusion that Iran is an empire. They laugh at Iranian aviation and aerospace industry saying that Iranians can’t even build a car … why? Cuz …again… they are wrong kind of Iranians!

They would gladly see foreign forces on the ground just for the Mullas to be removed. There are plenty Nouri Al Maliki like in L.A. and Washington and believe it or not … even in London … waiting to be in power in Iran once the Mullas are gone. They are no different than MKO who shot at other Iranians shoulder to shoulder with Saddam’s soldiers, provided Saddam intelligence, and Rajavi, kissed Saddam’s ass, begging for audience while in Iraq (plenty of video footage on this).

Yea … let the saviors come and free us from the plague of the Islamists and Mullas. Just the way they helped Iraqi’s and liberated them … err….NOT!
So again … nothing good comes Iran … cuz it is under the supervision of Mullas, and it does not matter that it is about Iran and our motherland, our soil and the very survival of what our forefathers have fought for, kept and passed on to us.

Zendebad Iran … but only for the right kind!

Deterrence is the name of the game

Iran can not win a classic war with US. For that matter, nobody can win a classic war with US. But if a country be very weak, like Iraq in 2003, she becomes a "loghmeh charb va laziz" to be invaded. All Iran has and showing is that we are not going to be an easy target. If anyone wants to take on us, must be ready to pay a price. It is called deterrence.

damn if you do, damn if you don't

A typical Iranian reaction. Baba give them some credit for God's sake, they are IRANIANS after all.

The second world war II ;-)

"...1965 world war II F-4 and F-5"???!!??

I',m true Iranian but let face the reality..

Today i read that American test the $110m missile shield successfully. The target was a mock warhead and was supposed to be accompanied by "countermeasures similar to what Iran or North Korea could deploy, And they said Smashing Success..AHAIN 110 MI just for the missile test..Let face it, how can we even think to fight the technology of superpowers like America,,,some Iranian might give their lives to the cause of being patriotic but realistically we can not fight our enemies with 1970 f-14 1965 world war II f-4 and f-5 to fight the top of the line defense technology.And this clip is nothing just propaganda..

It gave me...

... a headache. Boys and their toys, whether American, Iranian or ... killing machines. What a waste...