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Crocodile tears from Palin and New York Sun

Sarah Palin is a new stooge and friend of the neo-cons and hungry for more money and more power (check out her behavior, the bridge to no-where, trooper gate, library-gate, the $600 million bridge #2). Also, she's some sort of a fundamentalist Zionist-Christian who looks forward to Rapture.

And people ask why did we invade Iraq, why is there so much corruption, why is she concerned for Iranians and not Americans? Oh well, and the show goes on. Thatcher, Blair, and Bush were also concerned for Iranians' well-being, yeah right.

The problem is these folks think Iranians are as ignorant as they are. But then again this propoganda is for the American public and not for Iranians.

She supposedly, cares.

New York Sun is such a fair, unbiased and humanatarian newspaper, and they're NOT a Israeli-first, America-second company, not at all. ;)

Gov. Palin's remark on Iranian Women

Here is an excerpts of Gov. Palin remark about Iranian people women today. The only American politician who have mentioned Iranian women:

Excerpts:

Not even Iranian citizens are safe from their government's threat to those who want to live, work, and worship in peace. Politically-motivated abductions, torture, death by stoning, flogging, and amputations are just some of its state-sanctioned punishments.

It is said that the measure of a country is the treatment of its most vulnerable citizens. By that standard, the Iranian government is both oppressive and barbaric. Under Ahmadinejad's rule, Iranian women are some of the most vulnerable citizens.

If an Iranian woman shows too much hair in public, she risks being beaten or killed.

If she walks down a public street in clothing that violates the state dress code, she could be arrested.

But in the face of this harsh regime, the Iranian women have shown courage. Despite threats to their lives and their families, Iranian women have sought better treatment through the "One Million Signatures Campaign Demanding Changes to Discriminatory Laws." The authorities have reacted with predictable barbarism. Last year, women's rights activist Delaram Ali was sentenced to 20 lashes and 10 months in prison for committing the crime of "propaganda against the system." After international protests, the judiciary reduced her sentence to "only" 10 lashes and 36 months in prison and then temporarily suspended her sentence. She still faces the threat of imprisonment.

Link: //www.nysun.com/opinion/palin-on-ahmadinejad-...

Don't set the bar too low

Dear Anonym7,

Bush & friends have taken mismanagement of everything including wars and the economy to new heights. We cannot set the bar to their level. Sure, compared to Bush the mullahs are doing alright but that is not good enough. We should compare where Iran is now to where it could and should be. Then you will see the real difference. Just because the neighbors kid flunks out three years in a row does not mean our kid may flunk twice and we should be happy.

I also agree that regime change was on the books before Ahmadinejad. But not before the IRI. My criticism is for the whole IRI regime. Iranian regime has done a terrible job of maneuvering Iran in the global game. Iran is not starting from the same position of strength as the US and cannot afford the same degree of mistakes.

IRI insistence on Sharia has alienated a lot of highly educated Iranians in the west. Their obsession with Israel is scaring the heck out of otherwise anti-war Jews. There are some people in the west who will never want a free and powerful Iran. But they won't be able to do anything if the IRI was not so obnoxious and did not give them so many reasons.

Israel as a whole is not a threat (to Zion)

Zion, I believe Israel as a whole is not an "evil threat" to Iran. However extremists Israelis such as Shaol Mofaz, and Beney Morris are a serious threat to everybody including Iran.

netta h

Thanks for your timely comment. I don't know why some of them think Israel is an evil threat to Iran. Makes you wonder how much influence propaganda has on some people. The way reality is bent is ind boggling.

If Americans had won the war

If Americans had won the war in Iraq, they would have destroyed Iran by now for their own prosperity as Tony Blair says: “We are all internationalists now, whether we like it or not. We cannot refuse to participate in global markets if we want to prosper.” It's the new world order in which “civilized countries” give themselves every right to take preemptive measures in or against the rest of the world where they feel their presence is necessary.
I agree with you on Ahmadinejad having a big mouth but they could always find numberless excuses if they had the resources to attack. Non-existing WMD and ties with Taleban just to name a few. There is no doubt that Mullas are the enemy of Iranians but you cannot just trust the other side either. They know Iran is a permanent threat to them as a sovereign country even under Shah.

While reading blogs and commentary

around this site which has always been a favourite of mine, I suddenly realized something that comes to me as a huge shock:

some of you guys really think that Israel is a threat to Iran. some of you seem to be genuinely concerned by Israel's so called "power", as if Israel could really attack Iran. this is impossible. unbelievable.

you have to understand. Israeli people are scared shitless of the possibility of an Iranian bomb. they are convinced that Iran wants them wiped off the map, and they have reasons to believe in that as they can see Ahmadinejad speak against them to the press openly, as if dark times have befallen upon us again. it has never crossed the mind of anyone in Israel that his country should attempt to attack Iran. If such was ever mentioned to any Iranian, it was a gross misunderstanding as no one in Israel wishes such madness.

I've seen some of you refer to "Zionism" as if it was some dark force harbouring genocidal evil, evil aimed at the Palestinians. this is not so. firstly because Zionism has never been anything more than finding home to the jewish people. But no one uses this term in Israel. no one. Zionism is long dead in Israel. other troubles are ahead. and secondly, because trouble with the Palestinians is a world on its own. It has nothing to do with Zionism. it is the result of continuous confrontation that turned itself to a Gordian knot. Zionism, a term meaningless to most Israeli youngsters, now faces various dilemas regarding its own purpose. But it is definitely not the dark force reflected in some of the the concerned, some of the hateful posts.

I tell you all again, Israel is no threat to Iran; However it is convinced that Iran is a major threat on Israel. I grant you that. I suppose you can make of it whatever you want.

speaking of mismanagement! (to shmse vasir)

Shams, I do agree with you that Ahmadinejad's statements regarding holocaust were not necessary (and not true in my opinion). However I don't agree with you regarding the war (or potential war) with Iran. Bush/AIPAC regime change ideas were in place long before Ahmadinejad came to office and it included not only Iraq but also Iran.
I also agree with you regrading IRI's mismanagement, but have they done worse than these right wing extremists (Bush et all)? have you been following the recent news? their trillions of dollars of war expenditure combined with their mismanagement of war and the economy has been so bad that everyone is talking about a crisis that is only comparable to 1907 and 1929 crash, this time with world wide implications! Ironically they might start more wars to get themselves out of this huge mess!

Mostly to Iranian people

The IRI is primarily a threat to the Iranian people. Bad relations between IRI and mutual antagonism with the west is creating a real possibility of war. Most victims of such a war would be Iranians. Even if there is no war there will no doubt be more strict sanctions. Even without sanctions IRI's mismanagement is hurting Iranians. At least the Shah kept good relations with the west. These guys {the IRI} just don't know what is good for them and when to shut up. They are giving the west excuses to attack them maybe they want a war. Was it really necessary for Ahmadinejad to hold a holocaust conference and to make statements regarding Israel's future? Even if they were taken out of context they were still unnecessary. Does Iran really need to be the champion of Palestinians?

As for Israel I don't think it is in any real danger from the IRI. Israel is not going to be hurt by sanctions on Iran. The west will never attack Iran without Israel's permission. So Israel is in the driver seat. Iranian people on the other hand are sure to get hurt whether there is war or not i.e. only sanctions.

What's up?

Anon8, You got tired of playing the nice guy Islamist? It was amusing and fun to watch. Now you drop it so easily when faced with some tough reality talk? So amateurish. Pity.

Poor insecure Zion

reduced to find meaning in his pathetic life by trying to belittle other religions, cultures and nations.

I said this before. Zion actually thinks because we may not agree with IRI, that we love Israel and what the that dirty government stands for. Jokes on him.

Racism light

ARYAN2008,
A nice try, but unfortunately there is no way to read your stuff other than a badly covered version of racism light. There is no such thing as a Jewish race, or an Aryan race, This is just Nazi crap. OK? There is a category of Aryan languages, that is all. Genetic research has shown there is no basis for any specific Aryan race in Iran or elsewhere:
//content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?...
Racism light, my friend, is still ultimately rubbish.

Yes many have attempted to wipe us out completely as a people during the ages. What did they all have in common? They were all societies infested with fascistic beliefs old or new, and totalitarian political systems and corrupt economies. The more prosperous and democratic and healthy a society, the better it treats the Jews. That should tell you something. To be deemed harmless by the worst forces in human history and thus left untouched is really no reason to boast. To be seen as a danger by all fascists in history on the other hand could be a source of pride, wouldn't you say? Maybe the reason is something like this
"The pursuit of knowledge for its own sake, an almost fanatical love of justice, and the desire for personal independence—these are features of the Jewish tradition... ."
A. Eisntein

Kaveh, thanks for making many valid points.

Darius, Merci. C'est trop gentil.

Aryan2008

"And you as a race..." ??

What will it take for everyone to realize that Jews are not a race?

What did all these people have in common to arrive at the same sentiment and action?

The answer is: Terminal ignorance and morbid stupidity.

Aryan2008, I get what you are saying, but do you realize how elitist your words come across?

Just because there hasn't been a collected effort to get rid of us Aryans who come from a liberating race of kings and so on doesn't make it incumbent upon Jews to try and figure out what can be done to remedy the problem.

Maybe it's incumbent upon the rest of the world to try and remedy the problem and get the proverbial stick out of its proverbial ass where Jews are concerned once and for all.

The zealous nutcases you refer to who use the Israeli situation are no different than the Arab zealots and the IRI zealots who use Palestine to legitimize their twisted agenda.

Shalom, Salaam, Namaste, &  Peace Out

Zion Encore Un Autre Dans Ta Gueule ;0)

THE TIMELESS LEGEND OF ROSTAM AND SOHRAB By Darius KADIVAR

To Zion - Please Read With an Open Mind

The way Zion is being sarcastic about us real 'Aryans' which by default literally means 'People of Iran' or 'People belonging to Iran', only goes to prove the complex that our Jewish brethren feel towards us.

We ARE, always have been and always will be Aryans by birth and by default, whether you like it or not. We have never claimed to be blonds with blue eyes, although half my family (one Aryan) have blue or green eyes with fair complexions ......

If we are in bondage now, it is only a blip in the 6,000 year history of our people.

However, there has never been a collective effort by various nations of the world through out the last 2,000 to rid themselves of our entire race altogether.

No offense but unfortunately we cannot say the same thing about your people.

Please don't take this in wrong way. Yet us 'Aryan' did come from a long line of free, conquering and liberating race of Kings, save small periods of history, and even then we eventually prevailed.

Again we cannot say the same thing about your origins.

The question is this:

If various empires throughout the past two millenniums have tried relentlessly and independently, to rid the world from your people then what did all these people have in common to arrive at the same sentiment and action?

And you as a race must inquire as to what can be done in order to remedy this ongoing problem once and for all in order for the Jewish population to finally co-exist in peace alongside other people of the world. And to also not give excuse to religious and otherwise zealous nutcases to use the Israeli situation to legitimize their clandestine and dangerous endeavors.

Parceque

Je n'ai pas eu le plaisir de te connaître Zion. Pour être mon amie il faut d'abord être belle et moi je n'aime pas les femmes qui ont un gros piffe. Ensuite, le complot dans le monde c'est vous. Vous les israilites vous êtes les nouveaux gangsters du 3eme millénaire.

Zion

It boils down to the issue of credibility. Do some reseacrh on this guy. You're going to find that he's hardly qualified to speak on the matter, even if he is referring to the government.

He's one of those Ashkenazim with a superiority complex. You know exactly the type of person I'm talking about.

Kaveh

I know that the majority of Iranians are not "Islamists". How is that relevant? Where did he say anything at all about the majority of Iranians? He is talking about the state, there is no mention of the Iranian people in what he said. I don't know the guy or his background, but what he says here is correct.

Pourquoi en français, soudainement?

Ta thèse de complot est vraiment ridicule! Mon ami, je pense que je t'ai déjà conseillé(e) d'aller voir un psychiatre. J'avais raison, n'est-ce pas? :-)

BS

who is this wanker? he's a raving lunatic?

Is This Guy For Real? NO..He Wants Publicity

Talking about EYE-RAN is a great way to pick up girls?

Last time I checked, a guy wearng a yarmulke and talking the crap he does couldn't pick up a girl in a women's prison even if he had a briefcase full of pardons.

This guy is a total moron...for every reason that DK mentioned and then some.

Zion.....you cannot seriously defend this twit Seth, can you? You KNOW that the MAJORITY of Iranians are not "Islamists". This Seth yo-yo is a total schmuck and you know it.

If your problem is with the regime...ok. With Arab terrorists...ok. Iran and the Iranian people in general? Not gonna fly.

Seth's ignorance is on par with any sheigetz from the backwoods of the US when it comes to Iran. It's clear to anyone. And frankly, I thought you would see that too.

Sadegh jaan....he's not a zealot...he's an IDIOT.

He also proposed to his girlfriend on national TV.

//www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=2622845n

The douchebag is wearing a rented tux that doesn't even fit!

That's adequate proof that he has absolutely ZERO belief in what he said about Iran. He is just looking for public exposure.

WHAT A PUTZ!!

Zion,

Écoutes: on n'aime pas Mahmoud d'accord? On est beaucoup plus tolérent que des gens de votre espèce qui savent parfaitement les valeurs des Iraniens mais qui se rangent derrière des préjugés ambiantes.

Le problème, est que le phénomène Khomeini c'est vous qui nous l'avait fabriqué, nous on était bien avec notre Shah. Depuis que vous êtes venus dans la région vous attaquez à tous ce qui d'après votre jugement peut nuire à vos intérêts. Vous avez fait à tort ou à raison tant de guerres autour de vous juste parce que vous estimiez que les autres étaient une menace pour vous (Comme si Dieu avait crée le monde juste pour que les israeliens y habitent en paix!). En ce qui nous concerne vous aviez tort, Shah était le seul chef d'état qui vous avez reconnu ...

Bref, maintenant après 30 années de IRI nous, on a hérité d'un mojood nommé Mahmood. À notre avis, il n'est pas fou et il sait ce qu'il fait. On sait comme vous qu'il ne fera rien à votre cher Israël. D'abord parcequ'il n'a pas les moyens et ensuite parcequ'il n'a pas envie de recevoir vos 200 têtes nucléaires sur la figure.

Bon, pour la question pourquoi t'aimes pas mon p'tit juif avec son cappi. La réponse est simple: d'après ce que je viens de dire Mahmood ne vous fera rien mais avec vos jav-sazi vous cherchez à montrer que les iraniens sont des monstres (vous voyez en nous ce que vous êtes en réalité) pour nous attaquer comme vous savez si bien le faire. Voila la vérité, si je mens.

To Zion

I can assure you that I wouldn't hesitate one second to side with Ahmadinejad if it is to oppose the Zionists who are threatening Iran and the whole world.

No ideology has ever come as close to Nazism as the Zionism; the same racism, the same arrogance and feeling of superiority, the same methods of ethnic cleansing, the same shameless lies and propaganda, the same ruthlessness and brutality, the same disregard for the world's community, the same self-victimization while being the aggressors....

Zionism is the real darkness

The darkness within

If few words of sense, about the threat of your establishment poses the free world, can bring out such disgust in some of you, then you have to look deep inside to see what darkness is behind such a reaction. Talking nice about Jews and "the others" when the circumstances arise is easy. What lacks in many of you is sincerity. On a scale so huge, I doubt if you are even conscious of it. It is at times like this that a glimps of what lurks inside can be seen. There is nothing in what he said that has not been repeatedly stated in this very website, yet since he is wearing a yarmulke and can be easily categorized as that "type of" jew with that type of accent and air about him, you are incited to side with Ahmadinejad. Then there is much more of Ahmadinejad in you and your likes than you are willing to admit.

All I can say to you is, help rid yourselves of this darkness within you.

It takes utmost self control...

This guy, and others like him who write on this site, bring out such disgust in some of us that it takes utmost self control not to put the feeling in the kind of words that describe them accurately. We have lots of those words in Persian but we cannot and must not indulge here. Setareh Sabeti is damn right when she say these despicable sleazebags make us even side with Ahmadinejad -- which if they had any brains they would not want to bring about.

Of course their object is to provoke us to engage in the same kind of smut they are so good at. We certainly won't allow ourselves to get provoked -- they may not mind displaying no self respect, but we do -- but they better rest assured that we see right through them. And we have no hesitation as to what we don't put up with if things move from the realm of sleaze into action.

ENOUGH WORDS TIME FOR ACTION !

DO YOUR DUTY EVERYONE BE IT FOR YOURSELVES AND WHATS LEFT OF YOUR PRIDE: HELP NAZANIN REGARDLESS OF IF YOU ARE REPUBLICAN, MONARCHIST,COMMUNIST, ANARCHIST, MKO, REFORMIST, GAY, MACHO, JEW, BAHA'I, RELIGIOUS OR SECULAR !

DO WHAT YOUR PARENTS DID NOT DARE TO DO! STAND UP FOR YOUR FELLOW IRANIANS AND LETS SHOW THE WORLD WHAT WE ARE MADE OF !

United Nations Headquarters -- before entering the opening of the General Assembly. The rally will run from 12-2pm on September 23rd at Dag Hammarskjold Plaza (47th St. & 2nd Ave.)

NOT JUST IN NY: IN EVERY TOWN IN FRONT OF EVERY IRANIAN EMBASSY, DURING MEHREGHAN PARADE ! ALL THE TIME TILL THE ELECTIONS. ALSO HELP SCE FINANCIALLY IF POSSIBLE.

BE CREATIVE FOR ITS NOW OR NEVER !

VIVE L'IRAN LIBRE ET DEMOCRATIQUE

NO TO WAR BUT ALSO NO TO CHILD EXECUTIONS:

STOP CHILD EXECUTIONS MR. PRESIDENT AHMADINEJAD!

//www.stopchildexecutions.com/

Greedy with bombs

Iran= Crazy with bombs

Isreal=Gredy with bombs.

Way to go, DK!

I've said a few bad things about you on this site in the past but right on, bro. I think there is one thing we all agree on and that is our patriotism. Zion, stop your nonsense about resistance and the children of Israel. Tens of thousands of Iranians have been jailed, tortured and executed for opposing this regime in a varitey of ways. Don't cheapen their sacrifices. We don't need racist foriegn agents like you to tell us about resitance; Iran has been the land of resistance throughout the history when the children of Israel were getting the rea-end kicked from pillar to post.

OK. OK. LOL. May King David be with you!

just don't forget the shrink.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSG19yci_Ps&feature...

VIVE LE PHARAON !

Vive Anwar El Sadat:

Sadat On Shah and Khomeiny