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Dear MS. Souri

You are losing it.

You are saying:

"It seems that you never read/understand people's words, you are only obsessed by spreading your hate speech."

1. Give me two examples that I have spread hate. I only need two examples.

2. The reason I said to answer my question was so that you understand the officials and their supporters running our country are goosfands.

These are the questions again:

As I said call the IRI special interest group in Washington DC, comprised of a group of terrorist here in USA, ask the the following questions:

1. What is the difference between men and Women according to Islam?
2. According to Islam what happens if someone converts to another religion?
3. According to Islam what is the women inheritance from her husbands death or her father's death?
4. What is the blood money for women, men and non-Muslims?
5. What kind of judiciary system does IRI implement and execute? What is a Sharia?
6. If a women defends herself in Rape and kills the rapist what happens to her?
7. Can a Iranian Bahai go to school in Iran?
8. Can an Iranian women hold high position in Iran?
9. Can an Iranian Jew be treated the same way as an Iranian Muslim in Iran?
10. what is the next fiscal year budget for Iran?
11. What is the next fiscal year budget for Hizbollah and Lebanon?

I don't need to answer you

Obviously you are not talking to me, you are only "monologuing".

I don't belong to those people you are addressing here. My words are there, my opinion is clearly expressed in this thread and all over the IC in every blog related to this subject. It seems that you never read/understand people's words, you are only obsessed by spreading your hate speech. More power to you if you are a scholar, I have no intention of teaching anything to anybody. Each person is entitled to observe and learn by themselves. Good luck.

Best wishes.

Dear MS. Souri

No one is bashing Iranian Muslim, since I am a Muslim myself, believe me more than ever.

This has nothing to do with Islam or Muslims.

But it has everything to do with a government that has made Islam and Iranian Muslim to hate each other, others and their own country.

We are fighting against IRI and their religion and their followers.

It is the IRI regime that is killing thousand and hundred thousand of Iranian Muslim in prisons and no one else.

As a women you should know better.

According to IRI manifesto, an Iranian women must be raped before her execution or stoning so she does not go as pure to heaven but as a whore to hell.

Please if you don't believe me do your own investigation.

It is IRI who has burnt streets after streets in Isfahan and Shiraz and in Abol and Amol houses of Bahai families and destroyed their grave yards.

A basiji can rape a Bahai women without been condemned under the Islamic law or kill and beat their husbands, brothers and sons, since under IRI and their religion it is accepatble.

So, please don't teach me about WWII I am a scholar in that.

IRI and their supporters are the master of concentration camps and destruction. Look at Evin prison if that is not a concentration camp then what is it then?

As I said call the IRI special interest group in Washington DC, comprised of a group of terrorist here in USA, ask the the following questions:

1. What is the difference between men and Women according to Islam?
2. According to Islam what happens if someone converts to another religion?
3. According to Islam what is the women inheritance from her husbands death or her father's death?
4. What is the blood money for women, men and non-Muslims?
5. What kind of judiciary system does IRI implement and execute? What is a Sharia?
6. If a women defends herself in Rape and kills the rapist what happens to her?
7. Can a Iranian Bahai go to school in Iran?
8. Can an Iranian women hold high position in Iran?
9. Can an Iranian Jew be treated the same way as an Iranian Muslim in Iran?
10. what is the next fiscal year budget for Iran?
11. What is the next fiscal year budget for Hizbollah and Lebanon?

I am encouraging you and anyone else who argues that IRI or their religion should not be questioned, answer these questions for me and all the other IRI supporters on this site but truthfully.

حزب خران ایران بزودی افتتاح می‌‌شه?

Was this party not founded allready? At the times of Taghut many years ago? The party had - so I think to remember - also members on Honor. It was created by the Tofeegh newspaper. A prominent member was the blessed Iranian Primeminister Amir Abbas Hoveyda. He was named by Tofeegh secretly. Arround the year 1970 the papaer was stopped after a personal discussion with Hoveyda because of other reasons. so the opening will be a reopening, a revival. so I would mean. Greeting

Islam is a very tolerent religion, unless ...

Islam is a very tolerent religion, unless:

1. You drink a glass of water (in a hot day in Ramadan), then it is off with your head;

2. You stop praying for three days, then it is off with your head;

3. You say that it is OK for a muslim to drink wine, TIIOWYH;

4. You say that maybe Mohammad was not a prophet, TIIOWYH;

5. You say that not everything is in Koran and some of it may need revising, TIIOWYH;

6. You decide that another religion suits you better and want to leave islam, TIIOWYH;

7. You make a funny joke about god, TIIOWYH;

8. A girl shows her hair in public, TIIOWHH;

9. A girl kisses her boyfriend, TIIOWHH;

10. Use your imagination and put any kind of liberal statement here, TIIOWYH.

San Francisco Yadet Nareh

Ehsan khan you are just like ....

Ahmadinejad, since both of you only acknowledge Christians and Jews as Minorities in Iran!!!
Are you really not aware or you are pretending?

Ehsan Jaan Join the...

The Iranian Kharaan Party (Hezb-e Kharaan-e Iran) and you can visit any site you like on WWW! BTW If were you I would register first before leaving the site, just to show the this site's administrator you really mean it!

Kharaan-e WWW Motahed shavid!

I had no idea ....

I had no idea this Jahanshah Javid the old dude, is the main contributer at Iranian.com. Now i get. I was wondering why iranian.com is such an anti-islam online journal, it is because it's owner, Jahanshah Javid is an Islam hater. Since this site is not fair in representing different ideas, i have decided not to visit this site anymore, and i encourage others to do the same.

To Ehsan AZIZ

I'M A PROUD CONVERTED AND I'M NOT ASHAMED OF THAT AND I WOULD NEVERY CHANGE MY MIND TO COME BACK TO ISLAM..

REGARDLESS,

MY QUESTION IS: IF THE ISLAM IS SUCH A TOLERANT RELIGION AND EVEN-THOUGH I'M NOT A THRET TO ISLAM AND I WOULD NEVER INSULT ISLAM OR A MUSLIM. WHY SHOULD I BE LIVING IN FEAR OF PROSECUTION UNDER ISLAMIC LAW? WHY?

خر

بله درست می‌‌گی. دلیل من اینه که من اینقدر خرم که باورم می‌‌شه حزب خران ایران بزودی افتتاح می‌‌شه. لطفا منو فوری ثبت نام کن.

إسفند دود کنند

لطفأ بگید براتون إسفند دود کنند ٫ که خودای ِ نکرده چشمتون نزنند.

to Minority

Yes, any iranian citizen deserve tolerance if they themselves practice tolerance. and if injustice is taking place today in iran by the Government, and people are sitting quite and doing nothing, not protecting their country man then that is disgrace to them. we iranians have proved over and over than we love our country and we are ready to sacrifice ourselves for iran. but iran is not just a piece of land. iran is not iran without its people. we have big christian population in Tabriz, i don't think we have any problem with them. maybe we should take the next step and become friendly, but we never have any animosity towards them. and the jews in Isfahan are doing just fine. I think as a nation we can get better day by day, but there are alot of iranians that want to completely change iran and make it into a western country and blindly accept all the western values. we have to have our own values and act accordingly, and those values have to be from Koran.

To Live From Tehran

The way i would interpret that is, if someone's heart turns away from Islam, that is fine, no problem. that is between God and his creature. But as soon as that disbelief turns into insult and animosity towards Muslims then that person should not be given the freedom to continue his hostility, first by warning him a few time and bringing sense to him, but if he continues his activities against islam, then muslims should finish him off. and it has to be through a court, and he as to be convicted by a qualified Judge in Islamic jurisdiction. unless that person is living in a non-muslim country, then the laws of that country should apply (this is in a hadith, so that guy in Switzerland committed a criminal act according to islam ). no one can just walk to enemy of islam and stab him, without a court and a judge. That goes against Islam and rule of law. But in conclusion, it is your business to believe what ever, unless you make it our business, but your insults, and hostility.

God bless you and your azari family. and i hope you go back to islam and become a better muslim than most of us muslims. just like some one else mentioned in the comments below, for a moment i was ashamed that someone like me is defending the word of God.

I have a question.....

Seriously folks! Do you think Iran' Socio-Political environment today is ready for creation or should I say reestablishment of Hezb e Kharraan e Iran? Please reply with reasons, for or against such idea. Thanks!

Kharaan Etehaad! We have nothing to lose but our Paalaan!

Ehsaneh Aziz - You are missing the point all the way

1) "if christians don't get offended, doesn't mean that they are right and we are wrong. i think there is something wrong with them."

No you are wrong. Something is wrong with you and Islam as I will explain below.

2) "would you get offended if someone insults you mother? no? then you need help, go seek help."

Yes I would Get offended. But you have missed the point.

Just because one gets offended because someone insults their religion or someone is under the impression that their religion is being insulted does not, in the CIVILIZED WORLD mean that you respond like this:

1) "muslims are like no other people. we take ofense and we are pround of our feelings towards our beloved religion....... we don't pretend to believe in our holy book like the followers of other religions..... if you insult islam in a islamic country, you'll hear from of us. if you do it outside of our terif then, you are monkey's and you are making fun of yourselves.

So Ehsan, threatening others is OK and the proper thing to do in a civilized society if your religion or your mother is insulted?

2) "Jahanshah Javid, don't be afraid, i don't harm old men like you. the truth is that Shia have distorted Islam, but Arab Sunni's (helpless humanbeings) have forgot it completely,"

So Ehsan, Insulting other religions is what a member of a "Civilized religion" does if his religion is insulted?

3)"iran has enough democracy and freedom"

Yes Ehsan, You understand democracy! Now this is funny!

4) "and all those who are the enemy of Islam, you will never win".

And who is exactly the enemy of Islam? Bahai, Jews, Muslim who do not believe in your brand of Islam? Hindus? Christians? People who insult your religion? Is this what a Civilized religion and civilized members of a religion do?

5) "but it is because people never understood islam, and we never tried to apply it honestly in our society"

I, and many others, don't give a rats ass about Islam and I don't want to be governed by it. You can not force religion down peoples throat. The minute you do this, your religion is uncivilized. I don';t care if you are jewish, christian or muslim. You do not "apply religion honestly in our Society" is you want civility.

6) "you know why muslims should be intolerant against you non-muslims. because if you come to power, you will be more intolerant against muslims"

Can you show us where we have intolerance against Muslims in the USA for example? As I see it, only Muslim nations, run by Muslims, are intolerant against fellow Muslims. Look at your IRI. If you do not believe in the Velyat Fagih, you can not become a politician or be a part of the government. Muslims making rules for Muslims is where I see the most intolerance.

7) "I was harsh with Jahanshah was because i wanted him to know, yes, he can write all the BS on various websites, but as soon as he puts his feet longer than his blanket, we'll cut his feet. yes, this is intolerence. Islam allows us to be intoleret against those who act with animsity towards Islam. but if you respect us, we will respect you."

Do you see how idiotic you sound? Again, Civilized people and religions do not "cut feet" and do not allow crazy actions because of perceived notion that because someone is intolerant do to words/art/comedy/lack of interest in religion/dress should result in "intolerent against those who act with animosity towards Islam". These statements that you make are from a people who are Barbarians! Again, look how you are responding to peoples statements and word. Civilized people do not make these statement because they feel they are insulted.

Ehsan, Islam, under its current leadership in the IRI, is not civilized. To me, its no different than the Taliban in Afghanistan. Your words and statements below because you felt insulted prove it. I apologize if I insulted you but threats from your religion is not necessary. You see, I called you sineh Zan, but you did not come back at me with horto poof about Islam this Islam that. So I stopped being disrespectful by calling you sineh zan. Think CIVILIZED and you will understand the problem with religion getting mixed with politics. This is our problem as a nation.

Ehsan from Tabriz, I like your comment:

Saying "" Tolerance is a good thing if it is based on respect. you respect me , i respect you, you don't respect me i don't respect you.""

Tolerance is the best quality in a human being, at least I think that way. So, then why religious minorities are not respected or even tolerated in Iran?
I am not talking about non Iranians, but I am referring to minorities that lived there for 1000 of yrs, and their ancestors have contributed to the country you and me both love?
I respect Islam, and Muhammad ""SAV"", and all the Imams and "pangh tan" then why don't you respect me and likes of me. Not only you do not respect " YOU" kill, take worldly possessions and so on ....
Also I would like to know who are the intellectuals that you refer to ,(whom are going to make sure this just and fair Koranic regime that you have dreams of) ,guaranty fairness.
I personally do not like Islam bashing, but at the same time I do not like the fact that true Muslims stand and do not say a thing about cruelties that has happened under the name of Islam.
Get vocal about the wrong doings of false Muslims and people will stop bad mouthing your beliefs.
By threatening JJ or others you will not get anywhere.
How many throats needs to be slashed to prove your validity!!!!

To Ehsan AZIZ

My apology FOR my mistake and typo..i should HAVE written tehran instead of Iran..Tabriz is my beloved city where my parents and my roots come from and this city is part of my sweet country iran.. regardless, what happened to our discussion regarding the islam the religion of sword..i'm waiting for your respond to our main topic...THE RELIGION RULED BY SWORD..

GOD BLESS YOU..

to Nader From Hamedan

you elected Barack Hossein Obama, and his middle name is Hossein. that is not impressive. obama is not a muslim and a muslim would never get elected as a presidant of US. a Jew would never get elected as a presidant of US, let alone a muslim. but that is understandable, i'm not against that. but when you mention Obama's middle-name as a sign of tolerance is bogus.

if christians don't get offended, doesn't mean that they are right and we are wrong. i think there is something wrong with them. would you get offended if someone insults you mother? no? then you need help, go seek help.

America is a tolerant country, not because they elected Obama but because of many other good reasons. Tolerance is a good thing if it is based on respect. you respect me , i respect you, you don't respect me, i don't respect you. so if some one like Jahanshah, calls this video "brilliant" that is disrespect, and then in return I will disrespect that old man.

why?

"If you were in iran i would convert you to a more human being and a less angry man.."

since when Tabriz is not part of Iran. If you consider yourself a part of Afghanestan you're free to do so. And if you think we want to seperate, you're very wrong. every inch of Iran belong to all of iranians. I don't think i'm an angry man, i am just sad because of our situation as a nation.

Ehsan Jaan go back to your Sineh Zanny

What kind of crap are you talking about? Why do Muslims have to "defend" Islam all the time? Through tape and pillaging of multiple nations and people, Islam has over a billion blind followers. What else do your type want?

The fact is that people like you prover how intolerant Islam is. In America we have artist painting the virgin marry with human Shit (you know what you call goh)and have it in museums. Do you see Christians killing people, raising their voices that if christianity is attacked or disrespected we will attack the infidels?

Why so much horto poof with Islam and so much empty pride? Just go to your masjed, pray to allah and keep cool. No one cares. For heavens sake, we in the USA just elected a president whose middle name is Hussain. Do you understand tolerance in Tabriz? This is why all Islamic countries, including the IRI is so aghabmoondeh. And you sound Aghabmoondeh as well.

Now go do some sineh Zanny. Maybe it will cool you off.

To Ehsan AZIZ

no one is forcing Islam up your throut> ( Down your throat)
Oh really? than why is that in Quran Has mentioned few times that whoever turn their back from islam is an infidel and must be stoned to death.. Dont we still see it in modern societies especially in Iran that the religious authorities are practicing it.. how many people have been executed due to their change of heart and practicing their beliefs? If this is not religion by sword then what is it?

If you were in iran i would convert you to a more human being and a less angry man..

Thanks

"If a god or a religion is in need of people like you to defend it then I feel sorry for that religion and god since there is no hope for them." I agree with this wholeheartdly. Thanks for reminding me.

"P.S You do not know much about other religions so you should wait before passing judgement" you are absolutely right.

i will never kill a person, or even harm them in anyway, unless it is an enemy of my country, and only in battle field, let me make this absolutely clear.

when you feel attached, what do you do? you try to defend yourself, right? i never felt that when i was readying what you wrote, eventhough it completely went against me. because your intention was so clear, you wanted to guide me towards what you think is right. i thank you for that, you are a very intelligent and kind human being and that reflects in your writing. your words did influence me specialy your first and last sentence.

but nastiness is evidant from an old man like Jahanshah. the intention is very important. Jahanshah's intention is to insult and belittle Islam, and i will stand in front of him and give him my peace of mind. Jahanshah doesn't care about the truth, it is so evidant. He likes to laugh at bunch of kids with no jobs, making a fool of themselves and insulting islam. I see the different between you and him.

to LiVe From Tehran

no one is forcing Islam up your throut. as long as you're repectful towards muslims, then believe in what you want. just don't offend islam and encourage other people to do so. if you have a problem with islam, IR, pose it as a question, and debate on it like the intellectuals that you claim to be.

To Ehsan of Tabriz and people alike

If a god or a religion is in need of people like you to defend it then I feel sorry for that religion and god since there is no hope for them.

In Holland there was this dutch guy who made a movie criticizing Islam for not being a tolerant religion. What happened then? A guy like you killed him and cut his head of and made his point correct. 

Another guy from your own town (Tabriz) called Ahmad Kasravi was killed because he criticized Shia Islam and branded it as heresy. He did not defy Islam, he was actually devoted muslim but he did not like Mullahs. And he was killed by a Fatwa from a Mullah just like the ones you co-operate with now.

Even you yourself is more against your god than any of us. You co-work with  people you say are against god's words, at least we do not do that.

P.S You do not know much about other religions so you should wait before passing judgement. 

/Bidar bash ke ma bekhabim

To Ehsan AZIZ NO MORE ISLAM FOR ME

I really don't understand youR position.THIS IS YOU WROTE: ( if you insult islam in a islamic country, you'll hear from of us .AND YOUR NEW STATEMENT:( Jahanshah Javid, don't be afraid, i don't harm old men like you) I think your believes and devotion to islam is like POLITICAL STAND, WHICHEVER WAY WIND BLOWS.

YOURS: and all those who are the enemy of Islam, you will never win.

MINE:I know many of my iranian friends including myself after 43 years of being devoted to Islam have changed their religion. Why? because of people like you. And Don't say that is weak indeed is being strong.

THIS IS NOT A BATTLE ABOUT WHO WINS OR LOSES.. IT IS FREEDOM OF CHOICE..ISLAM IS GREAT!!! BUT I DON'T WANT IT ANYMORE..

about intolerance

you know why muslims should be intolerant against you non-muslims. because if you come to power, you will be more intolerant against muslims. so, we have to deal with you and always keep an upper hand and never give up an inch in front of you. the reason that I was harsh with Jahanshah was because i wanted him to know, yes, he can write all the BS on various websites, but as soon as he puts his feet longer than his blanket, we'll cut his feet. yes, this is intolerence. Islam allows us to be intoleret against those who act with animsity towards Islam. but if you respect us, we will respect you.

Souri, this woman, could not even say that this video was in bad taste, artisticaly. this is just funny. everyone is bashing her. she is not even an IRI supporter. YOu see? this is how you like to be tolerent towards people. but you know? we won't even let you come to your own country, live abroad and have fun.

AntiIRI

I will reply to you this time, as for the first time, your comment and question is not offensive to me:

You are right, I haven't lived in Iran since a long while. I lived there only one year (end of 82 to end of 83) and also worked with one of the governmental organization for 3 months and have been student in one of the university of Tehran during that time.

Nevertheless, I give you the credit that I am not very much in touch with the reality of the life in Iran's today.

For the 100 times, I am not an IRI supporter. I am not defending Islam nor IRI, neither in this website nor anywhere else.

What I am fighting for, is the humanity.

Just think about what happened in Germany and Europe during the WWII. All that hate against one religion and its followers, made people kill each other and all those disasters.

What I am saying here is : Bash IRI as much as you want, and I am all with you, but don't bash ordinary people for their "belief" even if you think they are wrong and their belief, lead to the disaster they/we are enduring in Iran.

What I am saying here is : Speaking of Democracy (government of people, Demo= people and kracy= a kind of governing) you have to first admit to respect the people's right to believe in anything they think is good for them.

Fight IRI as a government, fight Islam's ideology as a religion you think is backward, but don't fight the people who believe in it. Don't insult people. Fighting an ideology does not mean "insulting and bashing" it. Brings the good arguments. Try to enlighten people.Don't call them stupid, backward, illiterate, goosfand...because, there, you won't get the result you are looking for.

What you need in Iran and on the Earth, is peace. Isn't it ? Then why do you think you can get it with war ??

Depends on who you ask

If I were a devout Moslem, I would be offended by anyone poking fun at Islam. Remember, Islam of today is what Christianity and Judaism was about 300-400 years ago. Over time, those other religions grew tolerant of dissent. Of course, there still exist intolerant Jewish and Christian groups, but they tend to be in the minroity. In Islam, the Intolerant are the overwhelming majority. So long as this is the case, most Moslems will be easily offended. Remember, that many Iranian Moslems will even choke if you question the tenets of Islam or name the prophet without using the usual terms of endearment. Simply put, they are children who have not grown up yet. They will, it just takes time, maybe 50-100 years, but they are on their way,

On a different note, I disagree with the idea of "social engineering" by placing EVERYTHING on this website, of any nature, sexual or otherwise. There must be a dfference between Hugh Heffner (Owner of Playboy) who believs in total unfettered freedom of display, and the general civilized public. One needs to be selective without being limiting or without censoring.

to: Jahanshah Javid

Jahanshah Javid, don't be afraid, i don't harm old men like you. the truth is that Shia have distorted Islam, but Arab Sunni's (helpless humanbeings) have forgot it completely, so i rather still walk with the shia. even if i have to accept Khamenei, i will. iran has enough democracy and freedom. that is not our problem. the problem is that we are afraid to be bold and do everything we can to make iran a better place. i put much of the blame on the current iranian gov. their don't have enough faith, neither in God and nor in their own people. we can be great, we just need to believe in it. intead of complaining day and night, how about use your brain and comeup with ideas to make your economy better.

and all those who are the enemy of Islam, you will never win. Islam is too intellectual for you guys, you simply don't get it. you deserve to live in a society controlled by liers and materialistic bullshit. i'm not saying iran is not a matterialistic bullshit, it is. but it is because people never understood islam, and we never tried to apply it honestly in our society. but atleast iranians are trying, with all of our failings, if God wants, we'll have a society based on islamic bortherhood, hard work, good manners, and no tollerance for your kind. and thanks for offering Milk to me, Jahanshah (what a funny name). Go drink your wine. i'm sure that is the only thing that can bring peace into your heard. temporarly.

Funny

Even funnier to see offended Islamists! Thank you JJ!