Ahmadinejad's speech

United Nations General Assembly

Tuesday, September 23, 2008:

24-Sep-2008
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Disgrace for IRAN

by Arash Kamangir (not verified) on

Ahmadinejad whose biggest service has been to make Iran and Iranians amongst the most hated nations in the world, knows very well that there is no proper opposition from Iranians anywhere in the world and abuses it with no shame.
If 1% of 1.5 Mio. Iranians in USA would demonstrate and chase and smash the roof over the head of this disgraceful terrorist from one place in USA to another, he would not dare to come back to USA again.
What a disgrace! Shame on all of us Iranians.


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Islam was 1400 years ago and

by shameoniri (not verified) on

Islam was 1400 years ago and I believe what you see in the region is from the direct result of western involvements in the regional governments, not the people. Arabs are our neighbors and you may want to fight them, but it's not wise.

Abarmard: Would you explain the state of affairs for Iran and other Arab countries before the Western and Russian intervention ??? How did these countries in the Middle East were run and governed before the Western Intervention?? What kind of capital (human and resources) and technological base these Islamic and Arab countries were standing on? These countries have fallen behind the rest of the civilized world more than 500 years ago; before even the establishment of the US.

When did I say, I want to fight other Arab countries?? Why are you making things up?? You think it's wise for the IRI to pit Sunni and Shia against each others in Lebanon and Iraq? You think it's wise for the IRI to help Lebanese Hizballh at the expense of decimating the Sunni, Christians, Maronites, Druze in an ever present threat of a civil war? Is it in the interest of Iran to make so many enemies in the long run??

The sunni Lebanese and Iraqis already hate Iran and the Islamic Republic for interfering in their internal affairs; same applies to the Iraqis sunnis. Is it wise for the Islamic Republic to fuel the old animosities between the sunni and shia in the greater Sunni Islam? Do you think it's wise for the Islamic Republic to interfer with the Israelis affairs? Do you think it's the responsibility of the Islamic Republic to make Iranians as the Palestinian's sacrificial lambs?

Playing the role of Islamic Caliphate in the region has become the wet dream of the delusional ruling authorities in Iran; and to this end, they are squandering the wealth of the Iranian nation and at the end they will get nothing while other Arab countries will eventually realize that Islam and turning their countries into Islamic Republics are not the solution for the miserable and impoverished conditions.

Arabs will never allow Persians to rule over them, especially the Shia, which they consider Kafar.

We share many cultural and geographical identities and need to focus on our similarities rather than differences. Europeans did that, we don't need to re invent the wheel there. Why not learn these traits from the best? That would be more fruitful.

Are you wishing to have an unified Islamic Ommatist government under the rubrics of the Islamic Republic model in the entire Middle East??? Is that what you're hoping for???

Why would I care more about a country that is thousands of miles away and is dominating our waters with their military might and forget about our own possibilities?

Where have you been Abarmard? Have you heard of the word, Globalization; whether you like or not, that is where things are going. In the next 15 years, many other technologically advanced sources of energy will replace our dependence on fossil fuels. Iran is an oil-based economy; meaning that it does not have a diversified economy. When a country doesn't have a diversified economy, it cannot call itself either independent, or free. It can't even refine it's own oil....Iranian hizballhis false sense of "achievements" and "Khod Kafai" is nothing but pure propaganda and a sick one at that, just look at Iran's GDP...it's lower than Malysia.

Abarmard, I'm really surpised to see how uninformed you are. You have bought the IR's propaganda hook line and sinker.


Abarmard

shameoniri

by Abarmard on

 

You might be right about me being confused but you can't stand as our moral compass either. We are all confused since the solutions are not as simple as the Bush's policies and theories.

 

I am not what you claim, I have my opinion and believe that have some arguable points in my comments, so what?

 

Me being first something or second another is not an important but rather a childish patriotic/nationalist slogans told by those who are in high school.rap yourself around a flag is the simplest arguments that only tends to fool some people some of the time. Are you sure that you are Iranian first? I could claim, as you have, that you are American first! So what does that get us?

 

It's easy to let your emotions take your logic in the step by step historical realities that Iran has and is going through.  I won't argue with you there and you may hold your opinion dear. 

 

My analysis is based on different factors. I don't combine the numbers and equate my final result for you,I noted that there are areas in any system that could be enhanced rather than demolished if it is in the long term interest of the nation.

 

Islam was 1400 years ago and I believe what you see in the region is from the direct result of western involvements in the regional governments, not the people. Arabs are our neighbors and you may want to fight them, but it's not wise. We share many cultural and geographical identities and need to focus on our similarities rather than differences. Europeans did that, we don't need to re invent the wheel there. Why not learn these traits from the best? That would be more fruitful. 

 

Why would I care more about a country that is thousands of miles away and is dominating our waters with their military might and forget about our own possibilities? I don't believe we are any less besides the lack of recent social achievements and civility that we need to grasp on our own. Do you think that Iranians are what? Westerners? they are not. Look at all over towns and villages around the country. Is that bad? We will form our own, and that's better than copy pasting. We did that too, it didn't work for us. 

 

I am not anti west, I am pro Iran. The country is Muslim and I have to admit and accept and work with what we have. turning a challenge to opportunity requires mindful logical steps, wars and slogans doesn't.

 

this can be long, so I'll stop here.

 


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The truth: It takes balls to say what he said after what happen

by Censored mostly (not verified) on

ed to Saddam. The rest of you whining all the time and waiting for a foreign power to go to Iran and overthrow IRI and invite you back to the country and give you high positions in the new puppet government. Well dream on and keeping screeming.


Mehdi

MRX1: Does MKO or Mosad have any solution for this?

by Mehdi on

It is really upsetting the AIPAC. In their devestation, it is very hard to find out what they plan next. Do you know anything? :)


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Akhar zaman

by MRX1 (not verified) on

May be antarinejad is in to some thing. may be emam zaman is comming back soon! otherwise what will explain a low life murderer, facist like him to have a center stage and some idots actualy listen to him.
Him and his colleague should be arrested on the spot and send to guantanamo in an overnight flight. then he should be facing the international tribunal court for crimes he personaly commited much less the regime he represents!


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It's pure stupid to go

by shameoniri (not verified) on

It's pure stupid to go against Islam or Arabs and undermine our neighbors for the sake of those countries that historically have shown no pitty or mercy towards the Iranian nation.

ROFL: Arab and Islamic countries have shown mercy towards Iranian nation???

Are you sure you're not a hizballohi???

You, Abarmard are a very confused character. You don't know whether you're Iranian first or muslim.

With all due respect,If you think Islam or Islamic culture or Arabs are your friend and are going to help your country prosper in the long run, then I have to question your sanity.


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abarmard and his ilk

by shameoniri (not verified) on

Abarmard: With all due respect, your liking of the IRI foreign policy is irrelevant and if you really cared about the economic health and welfare of Iran and the Iranian nation in the long run, you would not have advocated IRI's doomed foreign policy. IRI might have had a few tactical victory recently but in the long term, these short-lived victories are going to bite them in the rear.

You're blinded by your so-called anti-imperialist and anti-American fever, and cannot see clearly. People like you are consumed with hatred and revenge; even it means your own destruction in the process...


Abarmard

Well shameoniri I wont

by Abarmard on

go to that extreme. Let's say that the American promote the Israeli or Western point of view!

We certainly have more in common with the people around the neighborhood, whether we agree with them or not, than the far away ones. At least our interest are closer to one another.

Iran is not doing so because the IR cares for one over the other. US doesn't do so for the reason that they like Europeans or Israelis, they do it because it's in their best interest.

You say they care more for them than the Iranian people. True that they have not shown competence to run the country efficiently. Also true that they have been under huge sanctions, wars and pressures, not all willingly. Be fair.

I like the IR foreign policy in this regard. Even if we did have another government, it's in our own long term national interest to keep a close link with our neighbors. Shortsighted person would look nationalistically only, but a chess player would see the game further. The IR strategy is not fruitless for them, and to some extend the country.

My disagreement with a regime should not be like a racist point of view, to disagree with everything regardless of right or wrong since it's coming from a place that I don't ideologically identify with.

Instead look and try to pick and choose, there might be areas that they are doing OK or above average. Those we need to have and advance. Others need to go. This way we can progress further and actually learn as a nation. Similar to the Europeans and developed countries. Any other way, we would be back to zero, and the best we could be is Egypt or Possibly Turkey! (of course if you want that, it's another topic)

You might be surprised to know that our society and our experiences are far more advanced than those of our neighbors. Why throw that away?

We should bring them in and have a long term plan to incorporate them with us for the sake of us. Don't look today and think that ten years from now we'll be at the same juncture. US has changed, Europe is changing and Iran will change. By that I mean geo-politically...With or without this regime

It's pure stupid to go against Islam or Arabs and undermine our neighbors for the sake of those countries that historically have shown no pitty or mercy towards the Iranian nation. 


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May all Arab countries be

by Lebanese welfare King (not verified) on

May all Arab countries be plagued with the Islamic Republic system of government. May all the Arab countries be inflicted with the insufferable and corrupt, arrogant thieves, self-aggrendizing, perverse, immoral, violent, hypocritical, and murdering leaders like Khamnei and Ahmadinejad.

May all Arab countries become the demonic, oligarchal, kleptomaniacal Islamic Republics someday soon.


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Ali Leb

by shameoniri (not verified) on

Most Arab people support Iran or specifically the Islamic Republic because the Islamic Republic promotes the interests of the Arab and Islamic Culture. The Islamic Republic cares about Arabs rather than its own Iranian citizen.

The entity of Islamic Republic is the most un-Iranian and anti-Iranian regime we have had in recent history.

How would you like it if your Arab Sheik and clergy promoted the Iranian culture and Language, and the true Iranian religion and heritage instead of Arab heritage and culture.

True Iranians and patriots who love their country do not define Iran and themselves in terms of Islam; only traitors do.


Mehdi

Who is embarrassed? Iranians or Israelis?

by Mehdi on

Why would Iranians be embarrassed? I see Israelis should feel embarrassed right about now. No?


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Actually

by Ali the Leb (not verified) on

Me liking him has nothing to do with any programs. Arab leaders are nothing more than CIA agents that the US Government controls...hook line and sinker. You had a similar king who was controlled just like current day Arab leaders.

With Iranians it's always well you support him because of money they give to you. You make it sound so simple. Most of the Arab world's population supports Iran whether they receive money or not...It's the leaders of the Arab countries that do not support Iran...


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You people talk as if Antari

by AnonymousTheMrs (not verified) on

You people talk as if Antari kootooleh freaking cares! Go back to your cozy home office and the mall. please! When you're ready to do some real work, sell your house and go back to iran. Start a few grass roots movements. We'll be right here waiting for you blogs.


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Sham sham sham sham on you

by Nikkhah (not verified) on

It is a shame to have such president.

Also shame on us to not be able to settle against this tragic regim. We are all oppossed but we want the regim be changed by magic force but not by ourself.

As far as we write here and express ourself without
doing anything the IRI is not endanged and they can
continue.....

God, yes I believe in and i am not arab-lover, help us to settle and to establishing a front of iranian incl. monatchist, repulicans, cummunist ....

Hopefully sooooooooooooooooooooooon


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Mr. Antarnejad: How abou a

by Anonymous... (not verified) on

Mr. Antarnejad: How abou a referendum first in Iran??

What are you afraid of Mr. Antarnejad? Why does the talk of Referendum in Iran gets you killed and tortured??? What a pathetic ugly moron.

To Ali the Leb: It is not surprising that you defend Ahmadinejad and his ilk given the IRI's welfare program for the Lebanese.


Darius Kadivar

Abarmard I agree ;0)

by Darius Kadivar on

Here is another one for Mahmoud though:

The Stoning of Soraya M.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgLJfmny-DY&feature=related

As for Bush well Oliver is doing it for us ;0)

Stoning Bush: Oliver Stone’s Bio Epic on US President by Darius KADIVAR


Abarmard

Aghoy e DK

by Abarmard on

I believe the Beatles song applies both to Bush and Ahmadinejad.  I would say more Bush internationally and more Ahmadinejad Internally (inside Iran)


Darius Kadivar

A Beatles Advice to "DR." President Mahmoud

by Darius Kadivar on

Hey Mahmoud Agha, My Friend Paul has got a message for you:

//news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7633013.stm

Oh But I am sure for you and your IRI friends he is just another ZIONIST Right ?

Well then so Here is to You then from Paul's other fellow Zionist Friends George, John, and Ringo: Listen with Caution ...

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=87yq372R4Ts&feature=related

LOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooL


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I wish

by Ali the Leb (not verified) on

we had strong leaders like him in the Arab world. Iran doesn't need to depend on another country for anything. Iran is self sufficient. Arab leaders are the opposite. Without American approval they don't do anything.

Iranians should be proud not embarrased.


Hajminator

شرح حال

Hajminator


این مردَک متأسفانه خودش که گول خورده آدمهای دیگر رو هم میخواد سر بِدِونه. این شعری ‫از ‫فروغی بسطامی وصف حاله ما:

مردان خدا پرده پندار دریدند
یعنی همه جا غیر خدا هیچ ندیدند‫؟

هر دست که دادند از ‫آن دست گرفتند
هر نکته که گفتندهمان نکته شنیدند

فریادکه در رهگذر ‫آدم خاکی
بس دانه فشاندند وبسی دانه کشیدند

زنهار مزن دست بدامان گروهی
کز حق ببریدند وبه باطل گرویدند


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Easy to forget

by Iva (not verified) on

I read comments from folks who conveniently forget about atrocities that moslme clerics, including this Antarynejad commit in Iran against Iranians. It is not Israelies, Americans, Chinese, Zioniest, Buddahist, etc. who have and are hanging Iranians by thousands from cranes ... right?

Also, same people easily omit how it was khomeini and his gang who tried to export their brand of terrorist government into neighboring countries such Iraq, Saudi, etc. it was this simple fact that caused Arab countries support Iraq in their war with Iran. A million Iranians were killed and/or injured to fulfill khomeini dream of dominance of if not middleast at least Iraq and its holy shrines. May his soul never see a second of peace.


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UN & US are suporting IRI

by Rouk Goo (not verified) on

I didn't bother to watch this moron speaking in UN.
I do belive the UN & US are suporting the mullas regime in order to punish Iranian people,and looting the country resorces by small country midll men
because Iranian said down whit US down with Israel.
I'll say dwon with mullas down with the tudeh.


Darius Kadivar

Mahmoud is the PHONEY King of Iran ...

by Darius Kadivar on

LOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooL

Here is a "tribute" to you Phoney "DR" Ahmadinejad:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=37bbj8HbM5I&feature=related

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=z33GlFcXeAY


Majid

Thank you David ET

by Majid on

Well said my friend ......can you please say it again? and again, and........ ta in martikeh "ahmadi nejad  fahm" besheh? 


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Gol-dust BRAVO...I raise my hat to you for your analysis

by Steve (not verified) on

Your comments couldn't be said any better....
They should outlaw the AIPAC, this F**King hate machine is nothing but distruction of our nation and others.
Thank GOD, as time progresses most intellectual Americans are realizing to despise this organized crime party in the world called AIPAC and Zionist organizations behind it.


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It's the "law".

by Shadooneh (not verified) on

I finally figured it out. The IRI is repressing the Iranian people not just because it is a dictatorial regime, they are doing it just because they are following the "law"! I notice Mr. Ahamdinejad mentioned the "law" several times during his interviews with the members of the press to explain the reasons for his government's routine violations of the civil and human rights of the Iranian people. That is the ONLY difference that I have discerned between the IRI and the Shah's dictatorial regime. If that "khoda biamrorz" was smart enough to "make" the proper laws to screw the people, he or his khaanedaan would still be there. Fascists like Ahamdinejad think since their cohorts have made the appropriate laws allowing them to repress the people they are in the clear. The fact is IRI's draconian "laws" are the main instruments of repression. These "laws" enable unqualified and impartial judges to drag dissidents and human rights activists in from of the kangaroo "Eslamic courts" to punish them for dissenting and/or spilling the beans of the corrupt and repressive rulers of Iran. Ahamdinejad simply cannot distinguish between fair and just laws on one side and unfair and unjust laws on the other. He's assuming laws are laws and nobody has to question their fairness. Nothing is more un-Eslamic than that.


gol-dust

AIPAC even cut off this video when criticized! US Democracy?

by gol-dust on

I really don't care for this guy, but where was he wrong? We suffer in iran because of the regime, but if you look deeply you'll see the Israeli, AIPAC hands all over the map! They, since 1979, wanted to make sure iran's revolution doesnt succeed so other countries around would have no role model for throwing their own governments! Then US/Israel would be able to control the region and its resources plus a secure and larger Israel! All these sanction and all the imposed wars, who was really behind it? AIPAC may be? This is a war that Israel/AIPAC started many decadesa ago, and they still are at it! 

If you blame him for everything, you should at least extend the same blames to Israel & AIPAC as well! Ahmadinejad is naive fighting the zionist backers, resulting all the problems for our nation! He doesnt want to understand that the no. 1 organized crime in the world is AIPAC and Zionist organizations! He is taking on the biggest mafia and ....

AIPAC even chooses the US presidents along congress! Look at the democrat turned independent Lieberman who is a rabbi following McCain all over! Why? Because his loyalty is only to Israel, not the US, and is using the US for starting another war in the mid east now against Iran! If these people are not evil, then I don't know what else you can call them! THat's why the world loves them, and America is paying huge price including bailing out on the wall street! Is them aren't they?


Safa Ali

It's just embarrassing

by Safa Ali on

This is humiliating for iranians inside iran and abroad, holy shit, I'm embarrassed.


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To Mehdi

by Homeless (not verified) on

What are you talking about? Greeeeed?
People hve no place to sleep,people have no freedom,people have no right to do what ever they want in their own private homes, etc. etc. etc. and you say greed. Come on,get real.