America is declining, with middle powers challenging its supremacy
Daily Star / Dilip Hiro
21-Jun-2010 (6 comments)

Long, unfinished wars in Iraq and Afghanistan – coupled with the global recession triggered by the excesses of Wall Street – are widely seen as symptoms of the relative decline in the economic and military clout of the United States. Rising middle-level powers such as Turkey and Iran in the Middle East and Brazil in South America now are challenging the diplomatic supremacy of Washington.

Earlier this month, the new contours of diplomatic power were on display in Istanbul. The city was the site of the summit of the 20-member Conference on Interaction and Confidence-Building in Asia, which was presided over by the Turkish prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The event also provided a venue for the first Turkish-Arab Cooperation Forum, also chaired by Turkey. A member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization – and until recently a rare regional ally of Israel – Turkey basked in the international limelight. An emboldened Turkey also defied Washington, voting against the United States-sponsored resolution imposing new sanctions Iran for its nuclear program, which was passed by the United Nations Security Council.

Radical changes in the domestic Turkish political configuration as well as an altered external environment for Turkey have spurred the largest Muslim nation bordering Europe into playing a leading regional role.

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Irani Irani

IranOnly and Fooladi: Koja raftind?

by Irani Irani on Tue Jun 22, 2010 07:04 PM PDT

Aghayoon, berim yeh chelo kabob bezanim tu rag. Een Cyber Groupie-yeh bi savad Nasrallah Military Forum, ma ra peyda kard  :-)

Okay Bi Savad, learn to espell Engleesh:

charactor. baffleing. analogoues  Huh?

How long have you been in this country?

I wouldn't hire you to hold a bucket in the washroom, you pathetic illiterate. No matter what, please keep coming back for more. PLEASE, KEEP COMING BACK FOR MORE, EY BI SAVAD. Your stupidity and illiteracy always put a smile on my face  :-) 


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fooladi

Actually he is making certain valid points

by fooladi on Tue Jun 22, 2010 09:09 AM PDT

About turkey's strategic importance from geographic perspective.

However how he manages to translate that as somehow challenging the US power, baffles me. Turkey FYI, as a country and economy is only functional due to substantial aid from both EU and US in particular. Stop the Aid and PKK would be running riots in Ankara!

But US is indeed being challenged both economically and militaristically by China. But China itself has issues of internal instability. So I'd say US's field day since the collapse of Soviet Union is ongoing.

So " boys and girls" , keep renewing your USA passports  and be careful about supporting islamic regime so much on these forums, you never know who is "watching" these sites, if you know what I mean :)


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Irani Irani

Dilip Hiro is a liar and reproduces IRI's absurd claims

by Irani Irani on Tue Jun 22, 2010 06:25 AM PDT

Dilip Hiro is a serial liar and fabricator. His numbers were NOT provided by the Imperial government. Hiro made them up out of thin air. He has a history of passing along ridiculous claims about Jaleh Square ("1600 killed"), Cinema Rex (it couldn't have been Islamists, because it was showing the movie "Gavazn" at the time--LOOOLLLL!!!, when the IRI's own proceedings found that a group of four "religious activists" (translation: Islamists) had started the Cinema Rex fire--not to mention his Big Lies about the Revolution ("tens of thousands killed"--the true number was under 3,000, and the bloodiest incident was the Islamist burning of Cinema Rex).  

Khomeini and his gang came to power on an OCEAN of lies. The IRI claimed that 15,000 (!!!) people were killed and injured in Jaleh Square. The true number was 64 in Jaleh Square and 24 elsewhere in Tehran on "Black Friday". The IRI's own Martyr's Foundation did detailed research on the number of people who died in the Revolution, and the total number was less than 3,000. From 1963-1979, another 350 or so died--which means that the IRI killed an exponentially larger number of Iranians in the first few years it came to power than the Shah had in almost 4 decades.

But oh yeah, keep believing Hiro's predictions about the imminent collapse of the U.S., just like his predictions about the defeat of the U.S. at the hands of Iraq in Gulf War I--ha ha  :-)  Oh yeah, the U.S. is collapsing, alright, and the IRI whose GDP per capita is less than that of Botswana or Gabon is a rising power. Thanks for the laughs, gentlemen. Please keep it coming. 

Is this your substantive debate, Sargord Pirouz? Too funny.  :-)


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Sargord Pirouz

irani

by Sargord Pirouz on Tue Jun 22, 2010 05:07 AM PDT

Those figures he quoted for the Revolution were figures provided by the Imperial government alongside those of the Revolutionary government.

 

Hiro is more of a journalist. He produced a satisfactory overview of the Iran-Iraq War. And he hasn't been that far off the mark concerning the so-called Green movement.


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Anonymous Observer

"The writing is on the wall"

by Anonymous Observer on Tue Jun 22, 2010 05:00 AM PDT

Only if you can read "Shah Gholamese".


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Irani Irani

Dilip Hiro: LOOOLLLLL

by Irani Irani on Tue Jun 22, 2010 04:55 AM PDT

before gulf war I in 1990, dilip hiro predicted that iraq would defeat the u.s.!!!

he has stated that 1600 people were killed in jaleh square (the total for all of tehran on that day was 88!), and that 40,000 were killed during the 1978-79 revolution (the true number is about 3,000--and the bloodiest single incident was the killing of over 400 people when islamists set the cinema rex on fire). it seems that LIARS of a feather flock together. 

BTW, it seems that brazil's short-lived role is already ending, so the article is already a day late--haha   :-)

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