Gates warns against Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear facilities
LA Times / Paul Richter
16-Apr-2009 (17 comments)

Amid increasing suggestions that Israel might attack Iran's nuclear facilities, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates warned this week that such a strike would have dangerous consequences, and asserted that Tehran's acquisition of a bomb can be prevented only if "Iranians themselves decide it's too costly." Using his strongest language on the subject to date, Gates told a group of Marine Corps students that a strike would probably delay Tehran's nuclear program from one to three years. A strike, however, would unify Iran, "cement their determination to have a nuclear program, and also build into the whole country an undying hatred of whoever hits them," he said.

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MEHRNAZ SHAHABI

این ماهی بی نام و نشان!

MEHRNAZ SHAHABI


الان توی یک خط دیکه به من پریده بود ولی هر چی خودشو تکه تکه کرد و مزخزف گفت جوابشو ندادم حالا اومده سراغ شما!  :)  


anonymous fish

ostaad

by anonymous fish on

do you actually read what you post? 

"BTW, that's exactly what GW told Olmert's gang, to start with Hezbollah and once it was crushed, go all the way to Iran. The rest is history, my friend".

please provide proof... anything... that backs up this claim. 


Mehdi Mazloom

cameron - Is that "check mate", or choss mate?

by Mehdi Mazloom on

So you are sold on the delusional presentation made by the Mullahs ha?

Get this.

- Thanks to the Mullahs, Iran has no real and genuine friends whp share its religious or political ideology. Every friend the Mullahs buy them with hard cash money. ($300M to Hizbollah alone).

- Due to drop in oil prices, which makes up 80% of its income, Iranian economy is close to collapse. Gasoline is rationed, How long a country can sustain 28% inflation, and 26% unemployment rate. 

- Because of the sanctions, Iran's finiancial lifeblood with the  international community is dead.

- Since 1979, almost all Iran brain thrust has left Iran.

- 80% of the population - the young in particular, opposes this despotic regime. It wants new and democratic government. 99% of them, prefer the Western cultural, and economic system then they are getting now in Iran.

- Although Shi'it make up the majority in Iran, they are only 12% of the total Islamic ummah.

- At the same time, Fars population (the Akhoodah) make up only 60% of the total population of Iran.

- Due to the "generosity" of these backward Mullahs, Arabs countries around Iran, don't trust this regime, and the WILL oppose the Mullahs one way or another. Have notices lately the worm relationship between Israel and Saudi Arabia?. Got a news for you.; It is Ahmagh-e-nejad who "made them do it".

 

It sounds to me more of choss mate, then check mate., 


Mehdi Mazloom

Capt_ayhab - to answer your questioin.

by Mehdi Mazloom on

I am here. Been busy lately.

I still "preach" no military attack on the bi-gonnah. I was merely pointing out the opinion of some US officials in regards to Israel's military capability to struck the Mullah rea rend.

I am sure with  little more patience, ve-bah kommake' khoddah, these Mullahs will be shown the door to heavn soon enough. It will not be, US, nor the Israeli military might - it will be the might of the Iranian will.


Kaveh Nouraee

Captain

by Kaveh Nouraee on

Thanks for posting this.

Ostaad.....on the contrary, Bush did not give Olmert or anyone else in Israel the go-ahead to attack Iran. Israel had indeed asked the U.S for permission, but were told "no".

And considering the fact that the currrent administration is actively pursuing a relationship with Iran, that extremely razor thin possibility of an attack that existed under Bush has vanished.

Israel has $everal billion rea$on$ why they can't attack.


MEHRNAZ SHAHABI

من که گفتم بابا آقا مجید که مظلوم مامور و معذوره!

MEHRNAZ SHAHABI


مگه نبود که وانمود کرده بود که اونقدر فارسی اش خوبه که به یک سخنرانی در سایت خواندنی ها تو بلاگش اشاره کرده بود، ولی منو آقا خطا ب کرده بود.  اولش قسم و آیه که من فارسییم رودیمنتریه! بعد که گوششو گرفتم بردم او مقالشو تو بلاگش  نشونش دادم اول خودشو به کوچه نتانیاهو راست زد که مثلا اونو ندیده و منم  مثلا یادم بره.  بش چند تا سیخک زدم تا آخرش بش ابلاغ شد بگه اونو کات اند پیست کرده بوده!! 

 

جاهای دیگه که دیدم میاد و اشک می ریزه سر حقوق بشر در ایرانه. آخه مادرش براش بمیره خیلی دل نازکه.  راه حلی که داده رو یه چند تا بجه لات  قمه کش تو این سایت طرفداری می کنن، انگار خیلی برا  شعبون بی مخشون نوستالجیک شدن.  اینکه برای ایران سه راه حل وجود داره:

اول حمله نظامی و اشغال ، دوم حمله کوچکتر نظامی با مداخله مستقنیم خارجی، ولی راه حل سوم که خودش می پسنده  اینه که اولش مردم زیر فشار تحریم حسابی ریقشون در بیاد و هرچی شرایط بدتر شد در عمل یاد بگیرن که رژیم چقدر ظا لمه (آخه خیلی به این معتقده که آدما خودشون باید یاد بگیرن و آزادانه تصمیم بگیرن) .  خلاصه تئوریش اینه که دولت هم هی بی شرف تر و بی شرف تر می شه  تا جایی که دستش کاملا برای مردم رو بشه! بعد نظرش اینه که کودتای دموکراتیک راه می افته و مردم آزاد و راحت، مثل اون قدیما حتی بهتر چون دیگه اونوقت خود مظلوم میاد مستقیما نظارت می کنه که ما خیالمون راحت باشه!!!  از خودش بپرس برات به همون زبون شکسته بسته خودش می گه طفلک.  


Majid

یه سئوال............

Majid


 

کسی تا حالا دیده این  بچهء «مظلوم» هیچ جایی غیر از جاییکه صحبت اسراییل هست کامنت بذاره؟
این تنها موردیه که شاخک هاش تیز میشه و موش رو آتیش میزنن!
اونوقت وختی من میگم این مأموره و معذور....... حاشا میکنه!

 


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Good

by 1L (not verified) on

Finally! the US is standing up for its own interests and not being bullied by the war monger Israel. I can only imagine how the AIPAC crew is watching nervously as the administration departs from their agenda.


Cameron A. Batmanghlich

Check – mate!

by Cameron A. Batmanghlich on

 It is over. There will be no war. I have been concerned all along for the past several years, since these bastard traitors of MKO set the whole nuclear issue ablaze and gave Bush and co. and AIPAC ammunition for their geopolitical agenda.  But things have changed drastically.  Until a couple of weeks ago, still things looked shaky; but not anymore.

An attack on Iran is out of question now for many reasons.  I think this is an occasion in the Iranian history that by chance Iran was saved.  A combination of a strongman in Russia (we all know that Putin is still THE MAN in Russia), a Chinese awakening and their hunger for energy, a total mess in Iraq (which is more and more becoming a proxy of Iran – Basra is called ‘Little Tehran’), Lebanon and Palestine, the situation in Pakistan (pending civil war)and Afghanistan, Georgia and Armenia the economic crisis and many other factors has made an attack on our homeland inconceivable. 

Iran showed that it will not bow its head and got away with it.The future negotiations will be more leveled - if not on Iranian terms.

Israel’s hardliners are politically bankrupt.  Militarily they cannot sustain themselves without a full support from the US and US can no longer support them to the same degree as it has done all along.  In addition, Israel has woken up facing military forces that even if paramilitary in their nature, still a formidable adversary.  No longer the Israeli army is dodging stones …  but real bullets and rockets.Hezbollah the ‘Noche’ of Iran’s second military force (Sepah) gave the Israeli army a bloody nose …  so you can only imagine what Iranian military (despite what  everyone says about it being a shamble) can do to them.   Had a very interesting conversation with a colleague of mine who is a researcher in peace studies and who was an advisor and lecturer in the Canadian military and he told me that Iran may not have the state of the art weaponry … but they have enough to defend themselves.  As the matter of fact he told me that by the time the former Soviet collapsed, about 10 nuclear warheads disappeared and no one knows where they are …  suggesting that they may very well be in Iran.  Something that I have read here and there about nuclear warheads from Ukraine finding their way into Iran.   Unless the Israelis use ‘Useable Nukes’ on Iran (which is out of question in lieu of the big Bear’s recent and final support on the north) they won’t be able to do a zip anymore. 

But there is more - the world opinion and of course Obama’s change of ‘tone’.   Regardless of clowns such as Biden (publicly announcing that he is a Zionist and that to be a Zionist one does not need to be a Jew – all over youtube.com) and Ross and Clinton and Rahm (son of a real terrorist who himself has served in the Israeli Army) and many more, this administration realizes that an attack on Iran is suicide on many ways.  

So in a true pragmatic and even Machiavellian spirit the wind of danger has blown away - for now.

Check-Mate …  and the rest is Woff Woff!!!  


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Anti-Iranian terrorism??!

by I wonder (not verified) on

Does that mean that the U.S. should shut up any voice of dissent and opposition against mullahs outside Iran (exactly what mullahs are doing themsleves inside Iran) by shutting down TVs, radios, newspapers, etc. and arresting and turning over the anti-regime activists to the Iranian government for punishment?

Is that what Mr. Mills means?

In other words, if I understand it correctly what Mr. Mills suggests is for the U.S. to kiss mullahs' asses and completely submit to the will of mullahs, no matter what.

Boy! this Mr. Mills sounds very familiar! lol!


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Test Iran With a Good Offer

by William Mills (not verified) on

No one, not even the Iranian elite itself, knows what kind of deal Tehran would accept in order to reach an accommodation with the U.S. that truly addressed Iranian concerns because Tehran has never been offered such a deal. Talk is cheap; when the deal is on the table and one must either take it or walk away, the situation is different.

Washington will need to recognize legitimate Iranian concerns in at least three basic policy areas--independence, influence, and security—but security is bedrock. Addressing Iranian security concerns means addressing at least the following security issues: “regime change,” anti-Iranian terrorism, narcotics smuggling, economic sanctions (a form of warfare against Iran), Israeli threats, U.S. bases and its naval armada in the Persian Gulf, regional conventional arms limitations, and the nuclear arms policy of both Iran and Israel.

A practical way forward toward bilateral accommodation would entail the implementation of several simultaneous processes, all lengthy and with any number of opportunities for checking progress and reconsidering policy. Within the security realm alone (leaving for separate discussion the realms of Iranian independence and global influence), one could envisage at least four decade-long processes: 1) bringing the Iranian hydrocarbon industry up to world standards; 2) reassuring Iran that American regional military bases and naval forces were not intended as a threat to Iran; 3) establishing a regional control regime over non-nuclear weapons systems; 4) creating a regional nuclear regime. The existence of multiple, simultaneous processes automatically provides built-in incentives to cooperate.

How far from the almost total lack of Iranian security today toward some mythical “complete security” (unattainable for any country) does the U.S. have to go in order to gain the agreement of a winning Iranian elite coalition? We won’t know until we try. For every uncompromising mullah, there is a profoundly philosophical and logical mullah. For every Revolutionary Guard officer committed to Shi’ite empire, there is a Revolutionary Guard officer simply striving for national security. Emotional accusations about “mad mullahs” and being a “new Hitler” are either the crutches of the intellectually lazy or smokescreens for dishonest politicians with private agendas. Intentionally or not, such rhetoric simply obscures the wealth of opportunities that exists to resolve U.S.-Iranian differences.


capt_ayhab

Agho Meyti

by capt_ayhab on

Where have you been dude?

remind me, weren't you the one ALWAYS preaching that Israel talking attacks against Iran is only election propaganda?

What happened? have you change your mind?

 

-YT


capt_ayhab

Ostaad

by capt_ayhab on

Although I am not an expert in war politics and sort, I can tell you one thing. Iran is not like Syria or Iraq, when Israel attacked their facilities unabated.

One thing that scares me the most is that If Israel were to attack Iran, a huge war will break out in ME and more than likely will be demise of Israel. Lets not forget that IR has the Hezbollah and Hamas in their small pocket.

Regards

-YT


Ostaad

Mazloom, do you know what...

by Ostaad on

"could" in the article's title in that Mossad's front publication means? Let' me give you an example, homie. If your aunt had testicles, she "could" be your uncle

I hope I could clear up your mind of the Zionist debris which is depriving it of oxygen, and Please let me know if you need more help in order to get a clue.


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Debka??? Do you really

by Bardon (not verified) on

Debka??? Do you really anyone considers Debka reliable?


Ostaad

Captain, what do you think will happen if...

by Ostaad on

The US told the Zionistas to go ahead, attack Iran, let's see what you got? In other words, show me.

BTW, that's exactly what GW told Olmert's gang, to start with Hezbollah and once it was crushed, go all the way to Iran. The rest is history, my friend.


Mehdi Mazloom

In the scheme of things

by Mehdi Mazloom on

Did you notice that, 2 weeks ago, Gates was meeting with Israel's Military Chief of Staff.Ever wondered what they talked about?.

I would suggest you to read this publication. Titled:

Israel's Air & Missile Forces Could Wipe out Iran's Nuclear Sites 

A source which usually is considered a reliable one.

//www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1386